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know post-war u.s. battle damage assessments confirm the weapons inspectors were effective before saddam it is stuff. they had a country under control by one nine hundred ninety eight at the latest those inspectors had discovered the most of the weapons of mass destruction and the iraqi programs at that point were essentially at an end before the war in iraq the united nations inspectors told us. that saddam hussein. did not have nuclear weapons capability ironically the major effect of the invasion of iraq and terms of weapons of mass destruction has to be has been to show that the inspectors were right all along the inspection regime worked. it was the most intrusive inspection regimes history and it worked at the end of day

that's another reason why we went to war. these maniacs the courage of our enemies weakening our troops result and confusing the american people you should listen to these protests because that was the whole thing saddam hussein who would have guessed that you could build a massive international peace movement on the protection of sadam hussein the media is culpable for the misleading of the american public they bought into the bush administration's rhetoric they don't understand that there was moral boylan's and immoral violence we use loral violence god bless this president he is truly a great man reducing troop morale confusing the american people and calling our

enemies they are absolutely committing sedition or treason as far as i'm concerned is a huge difference between personal opinion and opinion which the grades and the bases are military in a time of war it's a disgrace i don't believe the mainstream media i could responsibly in regards to iraq you know i was be little i was called a traitor i was called crazy powers on of c.n.n. accused me of drinking saddam hussein's kool-aid for making at the read statements in response to aluminum tubes people out there accusing you of of drinking saddam hussein's co i thought of an idealogue that i'm a republican idealogue i'm actually a fairly conservative person who voted for george w. bush but i don't allow my ideology to get in the way of the facts and the reality of my duties and responsibilities as an american citizen to media supposed to be the fourth of state that they decided to completely climb in bed with the administration on this in a way the ministration constructed of box were and that was that box had all the information ministration wanted to the media and the public and congress to care

what they would do if you did have the iraqi national congress. taking bogus defectors the information from him giving him to the pentagon and the iraqi national congress then giving him to the journalists and they said if you don't believe us iraqi national congress call the pentagon so you have this circular recording and you had the new york times admitting that it was using one source for all of its information and accounts of mass destruction and it was seen a sell firming by going to the pentagon which is to put the stuff on paper and it was. a lot of exaggerations partial information sometimes not always from ation but on balance a very one sided view of iraq's turbulent view program and a lot of these stories the journalist in want to look into because the editors told them to run with we're going to be supportive of the administration it's the patriotic thing to do i think that there was a part of media too much of of in a sense getting into the coming war and not enough look at do we really need to go

there were some journalists out there raising the alarm bells the seymour hersh is the walter pincus of the world but unfortunately those great investigative reporters there are usually exiled when the heat is on and it's only after the fact that they end up being praised and given the pats on the back and the excitement was to make the case to go to war you know to show that you know now was the controversy to the media of our viewers you know it was the titillation of a w m d here eunice not that not the titillation of or the conflict of tacky administration both the washington post the new york times it very conservative editors that support of the white house on this. elite. elites the people of the united

states and their friends and allies will not live at the mercy of an ally. that threatens the peace with weapons of mass murder his regime has an active program to acquire and develop nuclear weapons and let there be no doubt about it we know for a fact that there are weapons there. there are a group of people who for many years had advocated going after saddam hussein and they push this hard and of course raw intelligence data can be interpreted in a lot of different voices i'm sure experts who talk to you and so there were a group of people i think that were adamant that this was the right course to pursuit of. eight. elite.

elite elite if you please keep. the so please. please cue eliezer. elitists to keep illegal. why did the administration so dramatically underestimate the cost of this war we

did not have perfect foresight into what we were going on in iraq. with the cost of the war rising and the search for weapons of mass destruction going nowhere the administration turns to david kay his work is being carried out into the direction of dr david kay a respected scientist and former u.n. inspector was leading the weapons search in iraq we are determined to take this apart you have a tremendous group of dedicated american men and women involved in this with the best assets of the intelligence community and provide it dr kay and his team are making progress we have had found a large body of continuing activities and equipment. we are surprised by new advances that we're making at work of laboratories and safe

houses controlled by iraqi intelligence and security services and unlike pre-war intelligence we don't require someone just to say something we actually need the physical evidence equipment suitable for continuing chemical and biological weapons research. k.k.k. is not going to be done with this for quite some time david kay wants more time and he says it could take another six to nine months to make a definitive finding ministration is asking congress for hundreds of millions more six hundred million dollars to fund a continuing search we have not yet found shiny pointy things that i would call a weapon before we can draw from conclusions we need to let the iraq survey group complete its work. we were all wrong probably in my judgment. and that is most disturbing. it's inevitable that there will be an outside commission appointed on an issue of this

gravity and public hearings and we will get to the bottom of this and we will let the chips fall where they make democracy you have an obligation your obligation is to speak truthfully to the public that's a basis of civility in our belief in our system of government it is going to require an outside effort probably through an outside commission to deal with some of these very serious problems and i think explanations are important in a democracy this whole episode has caught the white house completely by surprise they've become so fearful of admitting error that they stand up and defend things that own their faith a face or untrue for president bush is being pounded with calls for an independent investigation into how u.s. intelligence so badly misjudged iraq's capabilities before the war that the president holding all the cards point all the people having everybody accountable to him is a very fair if i would care to try to operationalize some a common sign made about what was going wrong in iraq and so i said if you among other things that if you're going to do this you've got to treat it like an

intelligence problem and that is not go looking for getting weapons but going looking for the people who would be associated with hidden weapons one of the first things that worried me was we had a big army running through iraq in march and april the b.m.d. was not used against them. nor was it found. that's sort of remarkable if they had had large stop it's i really believe in the jungle telegraph put the word out on the street let people know what you're about what you have to offer and usually you'll get people coming to you around a weapons program if a weapons program exists you're going to find people people engaged in the production of technology engineering design people involved in protecting the weapons people involved in moving them and people involved in preparing to use the weapons we found none of them we were running into fewer and fewer leads but look profitable and a lot of evidence that stacked up to explain something other than large stockpiles

of weapons this committee has a special responsibility to the men and women of our armed forces to look at the prewar intelligence because planning for military operations has been less than makers take data they interpret threat they assess risk you talk about other deeply and how much more do you is race who you believe is it's left out of the public white paper of the sea any of us feel that the evidence so far leads only to one conclusion. what has happened was more than a failure of intelligence was a result of unifil ation of the intelligence to justify a decision to go to war secret societies have their own rules. secret societies generally don't feel an obligation to openly and democratically communicate prime minister blair has set up a sit somewhere commission in great britain at his is going to be poured into why right here is not going to be until march of two thousand and five five months after the presidential election should the american people have the benefit of the

commission before the election they are the reason why if we gave it time is because we didn't want to be hurried this is a this is a strategic look kind of big picture look about the intelligence gathering capacities of the united states of america. if there are no weapons of mass destruction which there are and if there are no ties with al-qaeda which they were and which they aren't maybe now there are. then why do we go to war. well all you need do is go on the web and and download project for a new american century there you will find the video logical and the strategic underpinnings for this policy which was rejected by george bush the first which is really cool out of town in those days became the devout policy of this government

and it was implemented starting with the war i felt in my last year in the pentagon that i felt there was a great deal of contempt for the constraints on a government that constitutionally is out. and i also felt that it was a camp for the constitution and i only absorbed this sense of contempt by association with with some of the so senior appointed civilians who were all neoconservatives who all believe in dominance who believe in preemption who believe in the military option as the first resort rather than the last resort and you had a very fixed indeed almost obsessive idea that in fact iraq is a major actor in the world and a probable threat possibly a deadly threat to the united states this is a group of people who for essentially believe that might makes right.

that the united states at this stage of history has unchallengable power and therefore responsibility to use it to. make the world over. the manner that we or the other think it ought to be made over i think behind the basic neoconservative philosophy is a considerable arkan's that american interests are the primary. goal of all american foreign policy and they seem to have a really serious habit of not being interested in listening to what other people say about this subject because i don't think it's an accident at all. so much of the justification turned out to me palatial. misleading deliberately so they thought they had a place in history they were going to bring bad obviously a very dysfunctional arab peninsula as well as a rag and it will change history they believe they won the cold war. and they said

i we won the cold war because we were tough with the soviet union we get tough with these people and they could become like us it is fear to say that the iraq war was a diversion from from the war on terrorism it certainly meant to people who weren't paying as much attention to afghanistan as they should have and the resources that might have gone to afghanistan ended up being focused more if you if you attack another country with no justification people going to say wait a minute this isn't a war on terrorism this is a war on. this imperialism this is colonialism you know and this is why it's a distraction because you need the help of these people to get this view that the cia and the f.b.i. are lurking around the bazaars in the six the middle east and handcuffing people are assassinated with work you've got to have the help of the locals to genocide

these people and to put them in jail or remove them from to the only person saddam was a threat to at this point as we saw with the army collapsed was to iraq he did have weapons of mass destruction he wasn't scaring anybody certainly wasn't scaring the iranians or the turks or the saudis or anybody else it was a state that was on the verge of failure now it is a failed state failed states because terrorism you can name afghanistan levanon somalia any time you think you create a vacuum it's where people flock to discontent it to file workers who some of bin laden had been saying for years america wants to they need an arab country occupy an oil rich arab country. you've been saying this is part of his propaganda so what did we do after nine eleven we invade and oil rich and occupy an oil rich arab country which was doing nothing to threaten us the only real connection is that

having invaded iraq. we are very unlikely to make it a focus of terrorism we're likely to produce what the president has said iraq represents namely the central battlefield in the war on terrorism why because we've sent a lot of americans into a place where they're sitting ducks for people who think the only good american is a dead one. on the. iraq cannot be governed by americans i don't care what the intention is i don't care if we truly want to build a democracy that it cannot be ruled by a foreign power the only tool in the tool box the bush administration is a military force military force is a very blunt instrument it just doesn't work we've created more terrorists in iraq

and we haven't even solve the problem afghanistan one of the more ironic effects of the attack on iraq was. to buttress other countries in the conviction of that famous remark by an indian general after the first gulf war when he said listen this war is that if you if you have to fight the united states you better have nuclear weapons you don't want your president to be seen as a hot dog and when when your president gets into a job suit gets in the back of a jet and lands on an aircraft carrier and then waddles out with this little straps between his legs and that's not when you want a sign of out of maturity testosterone blasting through when you're talking about. things so fundamentally important as sending a nation to war and sending young men and robots to their deaths there is a sense in washington now that you can't raise. objections to this because you're

not supporting the troops in the field i would i would rapidly point out that unlike almost anybody i know that holds office in this country i've had two sons in uniform both of whom have been in combat and so i don't have to take any nonsense from anybody nor will i mark twain's definition of patriotism and patriotism is supporting your country all the time. and your government when it deserves it well i don't think it's patriotic to stand by and remain silent while your country stumbles into disaster a patriotism is the last refuge of sky. and i think these are scoundrels they have no argument now they have no defense for what they did the country is in a terrible international security situation but i think it's perilous so they're attacking the patriotism of others. i know that inside oh right maybe

mistakes if we're likely to be in the states and if we're lucky to be destroyed if there is not because it was jefferson who said they had then our kind of government is not based on trust it's based on in fact suspicion to suggest that if you have a different viewpoint than any given an administration and or if you are not supporting the president and policies that may be highly erroneous i don't see that as patriotism at all in fact i would argue that. any patriot with integrity is going to speak out if he or she feels that that we're on the wrong quirks it's not unpatriotic to demand that congress uphold its constitutional responsibilities regarding the declaration of war it's not unpatriotic to be very upset vocally upset when congress abrogates this constitutional responsibility by transferring war powers authority to the president ited states as they did in october of two thousand and two and when you guys who work at nasa dot com i was out in iraq

trying to get rid of saddam and almost got killed for it and besides i was going to jail so it doesn't take a whole lot of courage for me to come out against the war and i did at the beginning but i was studiously ignored when we did the first gulf war when i came out of baghdad and you know anyone i met with president i states i met with the senior leadership of both parties and one thing that sticks with me to this day is the extent to which each one of them. explained to me in very emotional terms the extent to which they had to plan their consciences. to come to the. susan on how to vote on the use of force authorization it had been a moral decision on their part and it did one that kept them up at night as they thought their way through us we owe our soldiers our sailors our airmen and our marines nothing less before we send them down sometimes the true patriot takes the

unpopular course but helps their country avoid the stakes and even if they can't persuade at least for me america is this amazing land of opportunity of beauty of idealism hope it is a beacon to the world it's a place of fantastic people and what infuriates me more than anything else is that this is ministration has systematically slandered why all the black and the image of america to our friends and allies around the world having the authority and the ability to go and wage war is a very very solemn one and it needs to be done with care and with deliberation and with genuine forethought and i think that none of that was present in the lead up to this entire debacle that we now call given freedom and when we get perhaps no clothes we have to have the presence of mind and the courage to stand up and say it

perhaps not oppose. were. regime is seeking a nuclear bomb. is attempted to purchase mistreatment tubes from a few weapons production. eatery a suspicious used thirty eight thousand liters. bochy trust. saddam hussein in an advanced nuclear weapons development program.

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