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news for ground turkey eaters five months after the first reported cases of fool borne illness agriculture giant cargill is recalling thirty six million pounds of ground turkey so why do republicans think less food safety is a good idea. to go through. and get. into the only military mechanisms to do the work to bring justice to accountability . i have every right to know what my government's doing i want to know why i pay taxes. well i would characterize obama as the care was met a version of american exceptionalism. well
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go back to the big picture i'm charging coming up in this half hour five months after the first reported illness from ground turkey meat contaminated with salmonella is just now being recalled i'll tell you why trans national agribusiness can't be trusted to police themselves what needs to be done to improve our federal food safety system plus play the hostage takers giving republicans everything they want recently in my daily take i'll explain how the president's capitulation lead to even more republican hostage scenarios in the near future then a new segment on our show called meet the science i believe it will water evolution and the first great human migration.
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in the best of the rose the news don't eat the turkey giant trans national average is corp cargill announced yesterday that it's recalling thirty six million pounds of contaminated ground turkey that has killed at least one person and sickened seventy six others across twenty six states are delicious now announcing the recall even though the outbreak started back in march coincidentally back in june house republicans passed legislation that got at the federal food safety budget slashing eighty seven million from the f.d.a. and another thirty five million from the u.s.d.a.'s food safety inspection program as republican congressman jack kingston said in defending the bill the food supply in america is very safe because the private sector polices itself right which all of the family the person who died or scores second from carville's contaminated
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turkey are telling to the other fifty million americans who get sick from food borne illness every year the other three thousand americans who die every year because of contaminated food so isn't this a wake up problem isn't the idea of food producers policing themselves just as absurd is the idea of wall street or big oil policing themselves there was too sensitive a debate a seat and not a president with less government see. see you although with the change. you don't need but change change when my two cents from your tryst and spicy. i don't think i have any. why do you hate poor people who have access to food when you first saw your numbers are fraudulent because the people who get sick and die from the numbers you gave are very few of them actually come from store bought food from a grocery store bought for they come from restaurants they come from personally mishandled food that's the vast majority of that number the personally mishandled food actually is people bring home things from this from supermarket lido that have been they leave it out of a leave it out of the fridge they go through. they don't clean their knives that's
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like that's of the percentage from the supermarket no it doesn't come through it comes from the supermarket clean and they leave it on the counter to longleat over for a greater profit area just come from nowhere when you leave chicken out on the counter or you're going to get salmonella regardless if it had salmonella to go through sell it this is not you just put it doesn't just exist in everybody's kitchen counter if you leave chicken out ok once you go home tonight buy some chicken leave it out overnight in this heat and then he gets more and tell me if you get so annoyed now the simple fact is if you were to take a chicken that was not infected with seminal one take it home slaughter it set the pieces on your kitchen counter assuming that there's no salmonella there's a santa but you are you arguing family would hope spontaneous generation that if you if you take a box and you put straw in it and you sort of decide five days in the dark mice will appear i mean that was seventeen thirty one where where where do you think it comes from salmonella is a bacteria comes from from my own says it comes from a very. not my toes meiosis because from cellular division yet it requires another
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seminal to become more seminal and what do you think it eventually comes from you sound just like darwin with the origin of species we can't explain the origin of species comes from it affected chicken yes that how does it get infected by by by being out too long which means that you left out the idea if you're logging problem you don't know what is called a factory farm you don't know what your thoughts are there shooting them all up with bacteria and now we do ok let's look at what and how do we get to a thirty oh let's talk about the extra analogies in the internet all of these what's and internalizing what's going on here is these corporations are saying we're going to totally where time doesn't spare going to be at all you have the extra analyze our. economic cost the united states seat and wait the full economic cost of the united states one hundred fifty two billion dollars a year this is people getting sick people losing work people showing up in the hospitals two million of them a solution if you've got a really small reported each year you always know that's not guys are doing is they're saying we're not going to pay the health cost of this we're not going to pay. because of this we're going to let you go on
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a first of all because the time you're going to are going to say finales pay for this second of all they are not going to seriously and how ok we know what this speaks to the spirits and utter failure of the f.d.a. thirty so you want stronger regulation i would think so it's not your game by the way this is the u.s. department of five it is one of agriculture had access to thirty six million pounds of bad turkey and they didn't catch and they have five thousand six hundred spectators and they didn't catch it six hundred forty six million power a mistake the entire business they missed three six million projects on the no agriculture inspector had access to any of the thirty six million pounds of turkey so you're arguing that we should be more aggressive i know i'm arguing that we need government out of it because they stink at doing everything and they just proved a mess with this thirty six million pounds of turkey that with the inspections they can't inspect the turkey problem please identify for me since you know all of the countries of europe have the problem of u.s.d.a. candidate as we do waste it was the people i was please identify for me the libertarian paradise that you'd like to go live in where they have no food
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inspection and we can all go we can go vacation together and know that all the food that we're not going to get better with well clearly we have this huge f.d.a. in the part about what you guys are always number three in paradise that concludes that somalia is a libertarian paradise there's. look the government at the democratic republic of congo would you let me talk please of burma would you like me to be aghast or you should want to spontaneously combust all by your side i just want to know the libertarian paradise you want to ok america we spent we waste all this money on the f.d.a. and the part about you would you let me talk please they waste all this money on the department bag not even asking for to country would you shut up. we waste all this money on the f.d.a. they don't catch the they don't catch the disease and then the cargo cop is going to pay for whoever we can not which warrants but wait wait all we can not want to put you let me play please would you not like to have me as a gasket i can go all in and you can talk to yourself free. there's waste the money on the f.d.a. and people get sick and them and the companies pay for the disease which cargoes going to do and then we can not waste the money on the f.d.a.
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and when people get sick pay for their people and we can cut out the wasteful government and all the f.d.a. and although it's longer than your so in summary is run time it sounds to me like what you're saying is that your solution is less government people get sick and then the companies pay for it yes we did which is going to happen with or without the f.b.i. my preference would be preventing people from good which is obviously not working with the f.d.a. and in part what our goals are actually it's doing our jobs like every gov't don't have f.d.a. and i've gotten quite sick and several of them were lacking a lot more than that likely more good to see a scene i'm just so you know when you hear that one country well there's not there's a lot of big government all over the world right ok thank you republicans don't understand is unlike millionaires and billionaires who fund the tea party and push for libertarian legislation that does away with food safety the rest of us can't afford food tasters make sure what we're about to use actually safe in fact let me continue on this the the this is a map the from the u.s. department of agriculture that shows something called food deserts this goes beyond
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food safety there's a much larger issue of food here the food deserts are. just focus of your food deserts are places where basically you can't get. real food you can only get processed food you can basically just get junk food you wonder why we have an obesity problem in the united states and if. a study was done at the university of washington and found it just introducing enough potassium into the diet through treating potassium rich foods things like salmon just introduce enough that it has as three hundred fifty dollars a year food expenses so poor people who just can't afford to do it it's more expensive it turns out to eat good food and eat junk and processed food thus we have these food deserts that i was pointing out and use zoom in the even the u.s.d.a. website you can zoom in and see that even here in washington d.c. there are several food deserts access to good and safe food. to health care frankly
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my bill should not be something that is that is optional and should be a basic human right it's something that we should all be participating and we should all be paying for it we should all be making out that we don't want america to become like somalia. but frankly to do that would require a we mentality for america rather than the me the kind of which you rich society that the libertarians are always advocated but i think that increasingly americans are getting as they say as they see that we society chipped away by libertarians who say no no just me me me me that it's really not a good way to go. we have another new segment for you tonight regular listeners of my radio show are familiar with the geeky science segment i've been doing for eight years my chance to share what i think is a really interesting science story every week science news reporting this week that
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stone age this is the story of a stone age human ancestors living in south africa's pinnacle point they have learned to keep track of the tides the ocean tides in order to harvest shellfish and their access to this food source which is brain food extraordinary may have played an important role in human evolution archaeologist from arizona state university and found artifacts in a cave in south africa that attests to complex thinking and behavior including lunar literacy another was knowing about and actually keeping records keeping track of the moon cycles of the moon and ritual activities these findings challenge the longstanding view that stone age people did not really think abstractly or perform complex rituals until about fifty thousand years ago so here's the deal you know one of the big questions is always been why are humans the only primates who have who are basically paralysed below their heads other than the areas where the water
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lines would be like you know if you were moving through the water why you know why would that be why it why is it that humans are the only mammal the only the only primate anyway they can give birth under water and the babies that we give birth to under water are they have are a lot of fat into their skin unusual for mammals and for primates but it would insulate them in cold water and the baby can actually breathe underwater and not not breathe the baby can live under water without breathing as long as the umbilical cord still attached babies can swim at birth human babies can swim birth other primates can. and and you know why stephen jay gould a famous a scientist who's now deceased suggested that there was this thing called it is changed to the it to darwin's theory of evolution called punctuated equilibrium that what would happen was that every now and then you know evolution might move along slowly but every now and then there would be some kind of a horrible disaster that would happen and ninety nine percent of all the members of
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a species it could be bacteria or it could be people who get wiped out and that one percent to survive were months or one percent who carried with them an adaptation a gene a mutation that allowed them uniquely to survive the aquatic ape hypothesis suggests this that basically there was some kind of awful thing that happened a hundred sixty five thousand years ago like a gigantic volcanic event huge wildfire in it produced climate change huge wildfires swept across africa or possibly the it was surrounded by darkness and things didn't grow whatever it was the wild animals came to the sea coast looking for food and humans went into the water and literally we stood between the sea shore up to our necks for a generation or two and the only humans who survived were those who were relatively arable so they were well adapted to the water and who could give birth in the water it's an interesting theory nobody really knows it's very controversial you can google. it and find out more about it. next to will be the republicans next
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hostage in tonight's daily take i'll tell you why millions of americans should be afraid of the new era of republican hostage taking government. that drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who made the decision to put it through it through and if we had made who can you trust no one who is in view with a global machinery to see where we had a state controlled capitalism. call sackfuls when nobody dares to ask we do r t question more. for. fun. for.
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your take my take his your chance to send in your questions comments france observations about anything we talk about here in the big picture or during my radio show and it's my chance to give you my take on it one more time that i'd first comment came to us on the message boards of thom hartmann dot com mike wrote i want to run this idea by you so that i can gauge whether it's a viable option to solve our country's problems one reinstate the military draft for eighteen to twenty six year olds of both sexes two thirty mile back to duty required to get a medal for a medical discharge letter from your doctor and three you could buy your son's or
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daughter's way out of serving for one hundred fifty thousand bucks much like what was done in the civil war divide it avoid having to serve in the war or you think. well mike a i don't know about the bot you can buy your kids out for one hundred fifty grand i mean it kind of work i guess for george w. bush and i don't know if bringing back the draft would solve all of the country's problems but i think you're on to something it would definitely be a major step toward solving america's problem of never ending wars thomas jefferson once wrote to his friend james madison that we should minimize our permanent military establishment and instead of a national defense force rely on a national draft like switzerland does for example right now and herbert hoover correctly noted old men declare war but it's the youth who must fight and die in the children of our president vice president and members of congress are all obliged to serve in this is why they should be able to buy their way out of it the odds are infinitely higher that our leaders won't speak so easily so glibly about
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the acceptability of a few casualties and optional wars of choice in places like afghanistan and iraq. our next comment is from twitter next week wisconsin will hold recall elections for their state senate and we've been reporting here on the koch funded americans for prosperity voter suppression tactics they mailed absentee ballots to democrats in wisconsin with instructions to return them by august eleventh when the election's actually august ninth negreanu tweeted us when this came out my interview with state representative jennifer shilling one of the six democrats running to unseat incumbent republicans in the recall elections next tuesday she asked the question is who will be held accountable anyone so far deb riata they're getting away with the agency that's supposed to prosecute election fraud is the justice department and this would be the job of the u.s. attorney for eastern wisconsin james sense although you may recall that during the bush administration the bush jr administration seven u.s. attorneys were fired for refusing to prosecute phony charges of voter fraud but
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totally ignored cases like this of election fraud which were perpetrated largely by republicans and prevented hundreds of thousands of americans all across the nation from voting or something to the wrong precincts or in the wrong dates or like in florida in two thousand seventy thousand african-americans off the voter rolls because they were guilty of the crime of voting while black it's time for the justice department to start prosecuting conservatives who push voter suppression and our last comments tonight is from the viewer rant line jack called in with an observation not about what i've been saying on the show or rather about how we do things here on the big picture nothing that makes me pull it off my couch quicker than when you have someone like for or. really or to gain are on the air i was wondering just because there are so disrespectful just horrible to us as a host what you can do to help those people on. frankly first of all i don't i
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don't view it as horrible or disrespectful i think that you know we have decent debates secondly my goal with the debates on the show is to model for progressives how to push back on conservative talking points without ending up in a fist fight and we all have people among our families or friends or coworkers or a listener right wing talk radio or fox news and believe that crap so hopefully the arguments i use during the debates on the show will help you hold your own around the table at thanksgiving dinner around the water cooler at work besides my producers like to see me get worked up on the air makes it by the first round we get here that's it for your take my take the night if you'd like your comments and questions heard on this segment of the picture listen up we want to know your team send us your comments by visiting the facebook page twitter at tom underscore her or in the chat room on the message boards or to the blog at thom hartmann dot com you can also leave a message on our rant line at two two five three six fifty three zero six agree
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disagree sound off it's all welcome but remember that your comments may be used on the year. in one thousand nine hundred six president bill clinton said this. the era of big government is over. he was right and today the era of hostage government begins since president obama gave into the demands of republican hostage takers during the debt limit debate republicans will use the saying give us what we water will pull the trigger tactic over and over and over again and republicans didn't waste any time taking their next hostages seventy four thousand construction workers and f.a.a. employees who are out of a job because speaker of the house john boehner shut down congress and left town without funding the f.a.a. the federal aviation administration republican demands here
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a pretty clear the senate better pass an anti-union provision in the f.a.a. funding bill that will keep one hundred thousand f.a.a. construction workers from getting a paycheck. now today it looks like harry reid has negotiated with the hostage takers for a short term fix but these republican hostage takers have basically just dragged the hostage in from the front of the house into the back room for a month or so and this is just the beginning on the horizon are a number of other potential hostage scenarios for example circle september thirtieth on your calendar because a few weeks after congress returns from its occasion the federal gas tax expires as eighteen cent tax is critical to funding forty two billion dollars worth of i we construction projects all around the country that hundreds of thousands of construction workers depend upon to support their families he's already in government employees these are people who work for companies that do the work for governor but the republican tax master grover norquist as already mounted his
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opposition to the extension of the gas tax telling politico this week americans for tax reform has always supported the idea of ending the federal tax on gas and having states paid for their own roads and since republicans go along with whatever norquist says then expect those hundreds of thousands of workers to be the next hostages for the republicans will demand the tax be eliminated or demand something else in return for its extension oh and that does not mean you'll be paying eighteen cents less for gas if the tax expires as we're learning with the airlines right now when the government isn't collecting taxes corporations they'll pass the savings on to consumers like us they pocket the savings from our profits expect the oil corporations to do the same thing in this hostage crisis if they get the debt if they get the gas tax cuts. then inset the end of september there's another budget fight coming up in two thousand and eleven fiscal year ends in october and
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congress will need to figure out a way to keep the government funded beyond that month a looming government shutdown is the perfect scenario for republicans to take their next stage eight hundred thousand government workers who will be out of work if the government is shut down and considering that republicans nearly shut the government down back in april over just planned parenthood funding there's no telling what they're going and will be this time around and then at the end of the year. it just gets better a better or worse and worse the extension of emergency unemployment benefits expires this is another potential hostage crisis that president obama frankly could have averted last year but instead of demanding a two year extension of unemployment benefits for a two year extension of the bush tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires president obama was willing to settle for a one year extension of unemployment benefits that's clear in the way for a christmas time showdown and the republican party i think we can pretty safely
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predict it's going to get a hold millions of desperate and unemployed americans hostage over part two of this infamous debt ceiling crisis. manufactured crisis at that this is what we're all facing in the coming months because president obama refuses to fight the hostage takers and if he doesn't figure out a new strategy soon in our economy and his presidency are going to be in big trouble so i suggest you take a look at what harry truman did did back in one nine hundred forty eight the year before nine hundred forty seven republicans swept into office session election forty six forty seven they came into office and seized control of both the senate and the house for the first time in years and the republican plan was all too familiar to do nothing and sabotage president truman this was their strategy so president truman kicked their asses calling the eighth eighty of congress the do nothing congress instead of negotiating with
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a republican hostage takers in one hundred forty eight truman fought them take a look at his famous nine hundred forty eight democratic convention speech. the benefits have been spread to all the people because it's the business of the democratic party to see to the people get affairs there and they say this last word a.d.'s congress proved just the opposite for the republicans. and i say a word or two now. but i think republican a lot of years. ever since this inception that party has been under they're going to throw out special privilege and make concrete they proved it in the a.d.f. congress. i still ask for added to the big law where displaced persons in debt and it hit and it kept right now with this eighty. and truman was just getting warmed up. partner you know what they've done in the
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labor department since the torn it up so no one zero left the sponsor thing and they cut the appropriations on that so it can hardly function. i recommended an increase in the minimum wage. what they get. nothing. i have discussed a number of these failures of the republican congress and every one of them is important. by indirection this a.d.'s congress has tried to sabotage that power policy with the united states has pursued for fourteen years we can you say this country from a continuation no they asked congress and from miss ruth from now on i must have your help you must get in and post and win this election the country can't afford another republican congress. are you taking notes mr president obama truman's decision to fight back in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight what you
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just saw led to huge democratic victories in the next election he's so completely crushed that the republicans didn't control the house of representatives again for forty six years so no matter how bad things are right now they can be turned around just like they were turned around in one nine hundred forty eight but it's going to require a fight your dreams mr president of a post partisan presidency our debt a progressive change is still alive and we're waiting for you time to put on the gloves and knock the republicans right out of congress in twenty four. as the big picture for tonight for more information on the stories we covered visit our web sites at tom hartman dot com for speech dot org a hearty dot com also check out our two you tube channels there are rooms over tom hartman dot com this entire show is also available as a free video podcast on i tunes and we have a free tom hartman i phone and i pad apple that the app store you can send us
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