in the middle of england in several parts of the capital groups of humans are clashing with police buildings and cars are again ablaze it's being reported it follows unrest over the weekend after a man was shot dead by police more let's cross to our spanish british capital for us. the events that are coming through seas we're getting from bad to worse we're hearing throughout the evening it does appear doesn't it that the violence is spreading throughout the u.k. tonight. it does here just been getting reports this evening that there's violence in birmingham which is one regarded as the u.k. second city and second city that's in the midlands with riot police taking to the streets to try and contain looting with several use smashing shop windows taking what they can in what's been branded copycat violence of the scene is going on in london as for london though the police here are really braced for a night of violence because it's feared that the worst worst is still yet to come is as you say all evening going from bad to worse and more and more violence and

rioting spring up in various places various locations all across the city that were previously unscathed in particular the south of london and it's just gone up to cover not just since darkness fell about an hour or so ago writers have been taking . been looting and taking to the streets and burning buildings in various locations across south london from clapper junction in the southwest to croydon and bermondsey in the southeast which is really quite a large area of london this is all happening the last couple of hours or so in clap when people are looting. smashing shop windows restaurants bookmakers grabbing what they can t.v.'s they don't really care what they take it seems they just want to cause as much damage as possible in croydon the latest pictures i've seen there are of a huge building being set on fire whole corner of a block is up in flames and in both cases there's no police around whatsoever the

police are saying that they're pretty stretched to the areas they are in which is several areas throughout london lewisham in south london peckham hackney in north london north east london they're finding it hard to control the situation there because a number of spectators in particular children watching events and getting in the way of them doing their job and being on robust on the necessary people and so the acting commissioner of police commissioner tim godwin has come out. evening insead . asking parents to get in touch with their children to try and keep them inside and so the police can do their job that's the plea from the police but also they're saying they simply can't get on top of things as quickly as they would like because seems viruses just spring up just instantaneously at the same time as all across london so they simply don't have the resources and services so this trying to recruit people as it happens well that seems to coincide with

a couple of the reports i've been reading as well people saying over the weekend the brixton for instance carries electrical shock people reporting looking out from beyond the curtains of their homes reporting that the shot was being looted dialing nine nine nine for two hours or more the police not getting there why haven't the police got a handle on it is it because of the scale of it all what is the issue or i think partly the scale certainly just in the last hour. situations have gone from from seemingly complete calm in places like clamping to widespread looting and no one feels safe and. it can go turn into a seemingly like a war zone in just a matter of minutes with buildings in croydon going up in flames so it's very hard to stay on top of things like that. and as for the rioters they're staying ahead of the police is believed by using private messaging on their blackberry phones unlike twitter which is public this is all private so they're staying ahead of the police

like that and the police say that they. are finding it very hard to cover all these situations at the same time because there's places all over london is a very wide area this affecting our platform which is way in the southwest of london the hackney in the northeast has really areas all over the city the affected so it appears that social media is you saying things like blackberries there could be behind the way this is being coordinated. that's believed to be the case here is not really social media it's not in the public sphere it's more. coordinating people privately but using and using telecommunications and i think the police are trying trying to cooperate with the blank to try and aid the situation there but the police are making arrests they've made at least two hundred fifteen arrests today and they have but they are having to bus in more offices and bring them in over three hundred of them from twelve other forces around the country to try and

deal with the situation that's the scale of it is i think at the moment the police are simply outnumbered by the by the rioters talking of around the country we had reports earlier on let's just remind our viewers about that of trouble as well tonight not just in london but further afield as well just bring us up to date of what we know about the. well the latest is that in birmingham the thing in the second city that's really this evening before night fell actually the reports were that the looting was going on on some of the main high streets there and riot police were having to be deployed much like is being seen in london not quite the same scale as what's happening in london no no buildings being torched there or vehicles yet more just widespread looting and this is the thought of thing that the police are referring to is copycat crime and violence and people basically jumping on the bandwagon to reason may the home secretary your car sure holiday today to deal with the situation she's been meeting with police chiefs she's branded this

sheer criminality so they're saying that these use rioters a jumping on the bandwagon of a legitimate and genuine cause which was saturday nice peaceful process throw test . in reaction to the fatal shooting of a man named mark duggan in tottenham. they're jumping on the bandwagon to cause as much problem problems and and wreak havoc as they can and as i said this is happening this was happening in broad daylight which shows that people have complete disregard of being identified the police have said they will be releasing photographs of the people they've caught on camera to try and track them down saying they will be arrested and punished for this but it's just shows that people have complete disregard for that they don't care they want to cause as much trouble as possible and now with darkness falling it seems to be going from bad to worse really ok either bennett thanks so much for bringing us that one of our team of correspondents in london tonight now but earlier on i spoke to andrew gilligan he's

from the british newspaper the daily telegraph just shortly before us spoke to him himself was caught up in the middle of the riots. i was a i was mugged i was pulled off my bike and my bike was stolen by a gang of. on the way to the studio about forty five minutes ago i spent most of the day in tottenham which is where it all kicked off interviewing people who had lost their home as a result of these rights and they are furious with the writers they say that what happened to mark duggan the man who was shot by police is absolutely no excuse at all for what happened to them they blame the police for not being quick enough to contain the trouble in tottenham in the first place and quite clearly what's happening in hackney and lewisham and ackerman croydon and all the other places where disorder has broken out tonight has absolutely nothing to do with the police shooting of a man ten miles away and it's not anger at all i think it's pure criminality and people are taking advantage. of what they see is

a lawless situation and overstretched police forces to do their worst and help themselves to free goods well as it spreads very quickly this kind of thing we've seen it in fact in the arab world we've seen it social media spreading unrest in the arab world probably for the good there but here it's spreading exactly the same way arguably for the bad and there are lots of kids on on blackberries and instant messaging and twitter and all the rest of it spreading the word about where the next rock is going to be and they might be able to move faster than the police i think perhaps i mean if this carries on like this it is quite worrying it does seem to be breaking out in four or five different parts of london. sandra gilligan spin to spit earlier or no mention our team of correspondents is in london to bring you up to date with the latest and keep you abreast of it lauren that is one of those people she can use up to date with all developments there on twitter you can follow

what she's saying that r t underscore calm and lakers coverage reveals a yet more disturbing side to. right she says earlier on the sebring she witnessed three what appear to be very young boys committing vandalism kicking in a shop window partly just for fun that kind of tallies in with the pictures of you looking out over the last few minutes log on to r.t. underscore com to find the latest on the other developing stories we're covering here on r.t. international. president barack obama has defended the american economy claiming the u.s. is still a aaa country the markets there don't seem to be in full agreement though they followed the rest of the global economy following friday's downgrade of american credit the dow jones indeed has lost around five percent report miles got the latest from new york. well the mood right now is still very in secure after president obama u.s. president barack obama addressed to the nation that the market continued going down

as you mentioned the dow is down more than five hundred points since the markets opened down below eleven thousand is the first time it's gone that low in ten months but regarding what the u.s. president did say he said he didn't need a credit agency to indicate that the u.s. needs a balanced long term approach to deficit to cut its deficit nor did he need a credit agency to indicate that the political gridlock in washington is damaging the u.s. president went on to say that washington is not lacking policy or plans what it's lacking is political will he said to many lawmakers elected officials are insistent on drawing lines in the sand bumping heads we saw this play out for weeks and weeks before there was a deal out surrounding the debt that was reached in the last hour the whole world was watching as this political partisan type of grandstanding was taking place in washington and this is something that has caught the attention of the credit

agencies that are now trying to gauge how much of a confident and insecure and secure investment the united states is the dollar is we do know that s. and p. downgraded the u.s. is credit score from aaa to double a on friday that was the first time ever in history that the this country the world's largest economy was downgraded and we did hear the head of moody's say on monday that there is a chance that moody's is a second credit agency and there's a chance that they may downgrade the u.s. this credit from aaa to double like if the deal that was reached to reduce the u.s. is deficit does not prove to be very reliable because at this point we see the. the u.s. the world's largest economy with fourteen point three trillion in debt and growing and there's many plans that are put in place on how to reduce this deficit but the

reality is the u.s. has a pattern of borrowing and spending and borrowing and spending the bubble is growing bigger and the world is growing concern for an important part of the u.s. for us michael pence has a senior economist at euro pacific capital he told me earlier that started when paul should be praised for the decision to downgrade the u.s. economy american debt is intractable america is becoming insolvent and the seizure is getting out and once the chinese fully understand it and what the japanese and the europeans and all or foreign creditors all a sense of the idea that we can pay down our debt without inflation and monetizing and championing there will be a big. should israel action which will send interest rates to the moon or at least interesting high single digits and then it will be clear as day to us is insolvent and that's what the s. and p. is trying to who they should be you look. at you know the fire the way they're

being in the mainstream media. europe's top markets are also in the red the footsie london closing down of a three percent a brief rally after the european central bank said it would start to buy up spanish and italian government bonds to restore confidence proved to be short lived not is done your bushels following the situation in brussels. greece is in big trouble it's fall into a full team year low because if the euro falls as increasing numbers here believe it could greece will be first in the firing line in fact it's no fun to be an investor any more than an investor faces must be read like the markets they're down everywhere and what's being dubbed black monday spain's become the latest state to pledge that it will change that it will reform it will get its house in order is that it will slash billions more of public spending but that doesn't help the mood the european central bank i did it will buy up spanish and italian debt something with hormones to buy at the moment that hasn't helped either now the g seven g

twenty group of leading economies say that they are working together to control the situation but investors are voting with their feet that's why markets are down investors just don't believe the politicians but just keep abreast of the latest on our web site to get an in-depth look at what's going on in the markets around the world the website address. let's take a minute now to focus in on the latest from syria where there have been fresh attacks on anti-government protesters across the country gunfire and explosions have been reported in the cities of dear old not more than three hundred people have been killed in the past week the bloodiest in the five month uprising against president assad now bahrain kuwait and saudi arabia of pulled their ambassadors

from syria adding to the international condemnation of the crackdown on protests particularly is from online magazine spiked in london told me bashar al assad's apparently now at a loss how to deal with the situation. if assad is serious about promising democracy and sweeping constitutional reforms they has now promised thank clamping down on freedom of speech and freedom of expression which is the cornerstone of any democracy is not sending out a message to the syrian people that he can be taken seriously or trusted in his promise is a tool there is a sense from assad really the ease by which she has started to say this is the end of single party rule and he will start to think about elections and this is the way in which he previously portrayed himself and his party as the only guarantee guarantors of syrian stability but is now talking about major constitutional reforms means that really there's

a real uncertainty about what he's trying to do there very isolated they don't really know where they're going they don't know what's really the position of the u.s. is on this which i think is making them very uncomfortable and i think as a result kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place in a sense i guess messiah is a seems very tired that she almost willing to relinquish power at the moment because i suspect he is very well. it's you'll meet the same treatment that's mubarak is now seeing mentioned a web site r.t. dot com just now let's take a look at some stories on they're getting a lot of clicks tonight right now online we got the latest on a huge southern moscow factory fire it's a barbecue for all the wrong reasons it was a sausage factory thankfully no one hurt there but the smoke is gone kilometer. drop into the sky and it could be seen for kilometers huge fire tonight more pictures of r.t. dot com also this story to a bit of good news a passenger plane crashes in russia's far east but again thankfully no fatalities thanks only the miracle say eyewitnesses on the back story you've got it at r.t.

dot com. this is r.t. from moscow three years ago georgia launched an attack on the people of the small republic of south of setia the five day war in which georgia trying to reclaim its old territories claimed hundreds of innocent lives that is within a cochon over is in the south a setian capital a city still struggling to come to terms with the losses. i come here almost every day i sit and talk to my son to a new i will my next to my dear boy. for the last three years stacy has come to this cemetery where her son is burritt five days unorganised two thousand and eight split her life into

a before and after. when her son daughter a medical college graduate heard the republic's capital teen vall was under attack from georgia he rushed home to help the injured he died in her arms as they lay trapped for days on to the rubble of their apartment block that was in the georgian alterian firing line. the only thing that makes her life worth living now is her twenty year old daughter they now live together in a newly built house to rounded by families with similar tragic stories. in the toilets across the street lives of women who lost two children enter the house opposite lives a man who lost both his wife and his child. all these people are victims of georgia's military aggression in august two thousand and eight when they try to retake control of the breakaway republic of south ossetia a russian peacekeeping mission in the region also came under fire nursed my abuse

dive i was on duty with them and witnessed average thing that happened that night for i saw violent fire when you know it was going to be our last night but it was still carried out peacekeeping mission and tried to be calm. moskos sound trained force meant to protect its citizens and prevent more civilian deaths within five days georgian troops had been repelled three weeks later russia recognized the settee as independence. the last three years have changed the face of this thursday i new residential air where new roads jobs and invest in new zealand have been built. but still the conflict remains this behind my back all that's left of the russian peacekeeping post for those who lived through the horrors of the brief but badly conflict the memories are still valuable. much in

the question will i see reporting from team vall south assessing. the regime in georgia similar to that of mubarak era egypt says mabel koori a former georgian and payout an expert on politics in the caucasus we are talking about the country that has no opposition represented in the real politic to life saakashvili treats georgia as his own fiefdom the only difference to the size of georgia and egypt as it really matter how much egypt was playing a great a great deal for the united states in terms of first ability in the middle east and georgia does not in the region but the fact that we have political prisoners we have no free media and we have autocratic ruler whose reckless behavior and impulsive political decisions already played so many negative role for my country he is the one who started this genocide against his own people and the cooperate they only cooperate and the one who started the war the one who is going to be

responsible for this action is. next on this channel is changing sweep through the arab world some countries are finding it easier to win others so iraq's foreign minister tells us about see how the revolutions in the region have been positive for his country.

what do you think of the demonstrations and revolutions that keep shaking the arab world. with iraq is a positive iraq was one of the first arab states that welcomed the revolution in tunisia probably our official representative was the first one to arrive in tunisia and egypt to congratulate them on the revolution we've got good connections with other protesters movements as well they consider iraq to be an example despite all our drawbacks iraq is pursuing a line of new democracy it's an example of achieving democracy freedom and respecting human dignity we are all aware of our drawbacks however but they are looking at us here whether we recognize the people's right to self-determination for fulfilling their political will and making their political choices while being free and preserving their dignity iraq is anything but neutral in this situation

but at the same time iraq is unwilling to interfere with other people's affairs or we can set an example that's how we see our role which does not consist in choosing leaders. there but do you have the same position regarding the current events in syria at the moment. yes the government has the same. regarding what's going on in syria however the events in syria different due to the country's geopolitical position in the region and the role it plays for iraq syria is different from libya it's different from yemen with a good relationship and permanent contacts with our brothers in syria showed that we still have time for the reforms that would be really felt by ordinary people and that it is impossible to resolve the issue solely by force there was a further thought quote that mr minister the leaders of political factions are carrying out goshi actions with the government on the issue of american military instructors staying in the iraqi armed forces after america pulls most of its troops out how many are there going to be and how long are they going to stain iraq

. how yes iraq needs military instructors probably the military instructors won't be away from the troops that are being pulled out from iraq probably the training itself will be conducted in iraqi we must be precise the published it's england only says the government is willing to start negotiations or rather than you cannot claim that an agreement on the agreement to pull out the coalition troops before the end of twenty remains. the. does it mean that before the end of this year all the american troops will be pulled out from iraq. or all the troops and departments will be pulled out before the end of twenty eleven without any delay but there is another problem here iraq has purchased tanks airplanes and military boats and this equipment requires thorough preparation and instructions and that's the case throughout the world and let's say tomorrow we buy russian tanks then the instructors must be russian as well you should not mix up two

different things and talk about the troops staying there longer until now the number of instructors and other details has not been defined mr zebari i'm sure you are very well acquainted with the report presented by prime minister nouri al maliki to party leaders in parliament of the current status of iraq's armed forces what does it say how the. the report gives an assessment of the country's domestic security and it says that our armed forces have reached the level of proficiency and equipment status sufficient for maintaining it but i would like to point out again that we have no aircraft no air shield no defense system our ports in the gulf and in bad for have no cover from the sea since there is no navy in place and there still remains a need for intelligence services in the view of the threat from al qaeda and terrorism and quite honestly we still need to build up our defense capacities we need equipment and armaments as well as qualified instructors who will be able to increase our army's performance to the level where it would become fully

operational and self-sustained. given this when can we expect the iraqi armed forces to complete building up their defense capacities and he called up the task of maintaining domestic security. this is beyond my authority so i'm not prepared to answer this question but i can say that it will take some time no doubt up there is an opinion that the decision to employ u.s. forces personnel to train the rocky army was made by iraq's political leaders under direct pressure from the u.s. seen what can you say about that they said lord before that i hired out no there was no pressure the americans helped us lay the foundation and start building our new army that's one sure thing that they keep helping us and monitoring the progress they give advice on what strategic armaments will come by for that and that we have a need for them and they have their own interests in iraq and they're protecting their interests or not by way of putting pressure or telling us to do this all that there is nothing. they say that they are ready to stay only if iraq asks them to

we're not asking them with our government hasn't given such a request as for the military instructors this issue will be discussed by the government of the country as late as iraq has a need for them. this is a table from the u.s. embassy in colombo to talk about here it apparent june seventh incident of extrajudicial executions the military reported to the press that on that day to kill nine guerrillas and investigation by instructs you including you know and they strongly suggest however that the nine were executed by the army and then dressed in military fatigues. explain how you know this kind of phenomenon where bodies are dressed up as

guerrillas and presented as killed in action and this and this idea that you need to produce bodies actually encouraged paramilitary collaboration this is a cia document central intelligence agency they knew about these activities they knew they were happening they knew about links to paramilitary groups and yet u.s. aid continue to flow.

this is also international from moscow it's one thirty am monday tuesday morning here in the russian capital now top stories for you global markets u.s. stocks head south first try to session for america's credit downgrade it comes on top of volatile trading elsewhere in the world. thanks also to the spending spreading rather european debt crisis. big news coming out from the u.k. tonight and the key there london suffering another round of rioting with the new clashes tonight between hughes and the police in the boroughs of hackney and lewisham following a weekend of violence across the city. and war stories three years after george's attack on south the set here we talk to the people still bearing the scars about how they're rebuilding their lives. next the latest round of debate on pillar bell's cross talk show this week trying to gauge what the future may hold for libya pedro in the tame them here less than.