good p.r. stunt for the british government as he shares his insights into the conflict and that's coming up next in our interview. today i'm talking to kelvin mackenzie former editor of the sun newspaper columnist he's spoken out against the military intervention in libya saying that maybe it's not worth an ounce of british blood killed mackenzie that's a very strong position to take i mean the government reckons that as strikes prevented a massacre in benghazi so he that's worth a few british bombs and so. well first of all we don't know whether there was going to be a massacre a big goals this was the this was the government push this was cameron's personal speech. in near end of the day that this is libyans fighting libyans and who are we to say who should be running their country after all when i last looked i didn't notice any of the libyans interfere when the cavaliers and the

roundheads took place in a revolution or there as far as i could see there was nobody from tripoli wondering where in the french revolution this is a revolution quite normal the other side of got gollum's mysteriously they seem to have rocket propelled grenades they seem to have an. ability these people are sitting there with a spud gun leaning over a friend saying you're. fairly sophisticated and if you take the other aspect is that the rebels themselves who i wish well although i feel very unsure about what our relationship with libya is going to be at the end of that. we have al qaeda wandering around. how do we know that at the end of the day they don't end up running the country we don't know anything about this there is a justification for us doing much more them for no fly zones there is

a justification when they blew up a passenger. over lockerbie killing our people on the ground and killing people for america there was a justification to do what i suspect russia might have done under the same circumstances which you said right we're coming in we're taking you out we're bombing the hell out of the place and then there'll be a change of regime and that would be more justifiable than this but libyan rebels did offer to intervene they also may say to intervene do we not that full have a duty to go in and help the mouse no we don't want you to do we go to a saw aid in a revolution who is trying to grab power to decide what the outcome of that war is going to be i say we have no duty while we are out there wandering around the desert there was a justification it was last debate there's no justification i prefer the russian position i prefer the chinese position i prefer the german position all of which is

the siamese we wish you well we're not firing any guns and we're not sending in any planes what now that means you're with a nation that we pull out and leave the libyans to what could essentially be a bloody civil war it is a bloody civil war that's what happens in civil wars there isn't the point the reason that you have the word war involved in civil war is it's called civil negotiation it is a fight and in the end i expect the rebels they will win but they don't need to win risking our blood than our money what if now that the international community has irreparably for them that with him he actually stays in power and yet well first of all i don't care about the international community and secondly they haven't you know they don't like him but there's lots of people they don't like i mean why they're. why don't they go in while you were at libya just go down the road a bit to the congo where literally under a thousand people have been wiped out why haven't we gone there why don't we go and protect the minority tribe in the zimbabwe there's

a lot of injustice in the world there may be injustice even in this country who knows but the issue is that there is nothing that can be done the international community is a big factor and what happens to the politicians is that they look around them so they look at this their ratings in the polls and they say you know wall i'm not doing very well here the people who vote for me think i'm an idiot they're going to charge me you know what's in it what i would do wander around north africa wander around the middle east why do we go into saudi arabia where they've banned march is the king as announce there will be severe repercussions for demonstrations and in the east they started firing everybody why don't we go into the am in why don't we go in everywhere what's your answer to all these questions why don't we go and see them and why don't we go into syria because it's nothing to do with us we have neither the power the firepower nor the will nor will as we learned from iraq where one hundred and eighty of. good people died and probably forty billion forty or

fifty billion went out of our coffers which we could possibly even for that was up with that. has nothing to do with this things take time and yet we have still going into libya which by you know take has nothing to do with us is because we could have been open about gadhafi you know what is we're war and i. tried to relive the old days of the empire cameron keep on shouting out where of all the pink bits gone you know strolling around the middle east you know without a site and without an exit plan we now have to go into these places we have no idea how to get out u.k. institutions played a big role in rehabilitating the gadhafi regime not to say don't say that for they go said spin in that label media now that the media has. turned on him again how important is it for legitimizing an intervention like this and indeed regime change will be i think we should divide it up into two points first of all the

government whoever they are in this been going on there for forty odd years we have been licking gadhafi as backside now for for decades whether we supply arms to them or we embrace them like that disgusting piece of blair but actually these people that you know the second time politicians move either way so what we're kissing could off his backside and now we're trying to kick it it's ridiculous so the media do have a role and the role of the media is to expose that we are trading with dictators now so what does the government say they say we have to deal with the reality the political reality we have to we have to trade with these people and then somebody wakes up a circle to the world so trading with this bomb a mistake. it is pathetic absolutely pathetic but at the same

time it every so often the government changes and when the government changes sprout their view changes power so there's no consistency to my mind actually the media have been pretty good they've been pretty good the problem we face now is we're now at war with people and we don't want so we actually have to support our troops we don't have to support ideas like cameron got nothing else to do can't decide whether we should be wandering around all spittle in the u.k. or should be wandering around the battlefields of of the middle east but we have to have to support our troops so the media gets caught in a difficult position its troops or its readers and of the center of our world. the government they're idiots and the libyan regime a disgusting so the media gets caught in a very difficult area and you were the most notorious editor of the u.k.'s most notorious tabloid very kind of you to put it why do you rate fed so that it with tabloid culture essentially that made wars like this easier to sell and popularize

with the british public. except the first bit. except to the sun did spectacularly undermine excellent editorship i think that they didn't actually make any difference to government policy i mean you know. the issue about the media is it's like the sea it's always with us you simply got to put up with it if you're a policymaker and there will be a lot of aggravation about libya now i mean it started off or right we thought we were going to blow it blow them all out of the water we'd all be home for having having a cup of tea at the ritz bar past four so the nightmare is is is still to be faced in my view but i don't think it's fair to blame the media for it i mean i'm personally massively hostile to the libyan infraction mainly because i saw wired and in iraq these things take peculiar which you can't really work out

intellectually nor guess. nevertheless. you know i'm very much in favor of our soldiers and so you get toward a but the media were stronger i think you're right about the media stronger because of what happened in iraq i mean the trouble was that a million people marched against the iraq war blair blair was not telling his cabinet and the things will be revealed now because he was scared they were going to leak so basically they were deciding it is though you and i were having a nice chat to another glass of beer said oh yes it would be what you think given the office he was a bit of a go yes good idea to him and then they went in right so the million were ignored people say that the government various governments and nothing from the iraq and afghanistan but do you think what in fact what you learned was how to sell another military intervention no absolutely the issue is quite clear. we didn't want iraq

it was lumbered on us by a vainglorious prime minister. cameron is now wandering around in the desert of to brook trying to work out how to get out he will look in the audio to the end of all this but the but the underlying issue is with libya there have been no deaths on our side just why it. crashed and god forbid we lose ten people all all by the way they use those heat seeking missiles which you can basically just walk in and according to today's papers. if that happened we saw it being blown out of the sky don't even think about it so the issue is we haven't dropped any blood yeah we've dropped tens of millions of pounds which we haven't gotten but not one single one of people has has died where that happens the game and the p.r. game will change politically what does someone like david cameron gain from waging a war in africa a military of what came and saw what was in it for him or for

a country he's a pro for he is unfortunate. really a professional bleeding hall and so he is one of those guys who rush around endlessly he's a total political animal by the way rush around endlessly saying something must be done. the answer is something mustn't be done there's light when used to send off a really stinking is. on the night before to your boss right. don't send that a mile go to bed wake up in the morning reread it and decide whether it was a good idea or not cameron hasn't got that ability by sickly i think he's going mad baze gone mad very early he's only been in power a year now balmy is he going to be if he lost as long as blair blair was such a father at the end of it oh well my suspicion is that the pressure is just driven him by kelvin mackenzie thank you very much.

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control of the streets after four nights of riots in the u.k. and. europe's top bankers as a continent suffering from the worst financial bill since the second world war as fears grow france could be next in line to lose its top credit rating and. activists in russia are taking matters into their own hands when it comes to catching paedophiles who escape justice and crime sex crimes or the slam could be inadequate and even the threat from the playground. opens up today for the moment i'll be back with more news for in about fifteen minutes from now in the meantime here's the latest in sport with natasha. hello welcome to our team here are the headlines. of a russian carriage the cab becomes how's he will pick his strongest side for tonight's friendly game here in the russian capital. are.

aiden mcgeady as the irish midfielder recovers from an ankle injury. and. with the now the lancet is called off because of the riots on the. best eleven for wednesday's friendly against adding there's no time to experiment ahead of the foster broaching european qualifiers however the dutchman will have to do with the midfielder picked up an injury during saturday's till victory at table . many. players but it is left of on the verge of chelsea and into milan. but despite that advocate. they are still a very strong team and russia will need to play well to prepare for september's european qualifiers against macedonia and group b. jointly this island. below the tells of the proposal. to go for the final matches. the players are.

also if you know what you are going to be a national team to play i mean you've. got a very good song defensively point. still. playing. so if you gain you. should lose them so. it was your idea that it would play because it's a misnomer time for experimentation is it really just trying to solidify your stance and eleven and get into playing together. to play. in. something. that's improbable since i believe and we don't wonder if they can do this now not for school but also for the games who are coming up so send them back to the still must be feeling very confident something stolen a very good position going into the small stuff old games you know well we all we have everything about our own and so we get now three home games as well so we have

to do the first afraid that i have the feeling that all the qualification we were the better side so will now we have to continue in the fun for good question to. come in the greats unfriended once reached make up for something you want to knowledge and how do you explain russia's inability to win for you much as it was last year or so i was happy to be on the series the last run again against the move and i was dropping that was a very good game with the players who are not normally direct who did it really well. for starters there's a show that they can do it as well. now while russia plans ahead for next month's european qualifiers against island it's been a tough couple of months for irish midfielder aiden my games and that's when a five year old has missed almost half of spartak moscow as clash as they see an ankle injury after being widely regarded as the club's player all the same as in my good days spoke to our own irish men you know on the. i'm joined here today by republic of ireland sports like moscow winger aiden mcgeady aiden thanks so much

for taking the time to speak to us first things first how is your injury progressing the skin slightly better of. about history and obviously but i'm sure the boy i hope people do when they're for it name one should. push with whatever happens to me of course but most just the skin. and just importantly by playing with another two or three weeks now you've been in russia just about a year now i believe the start of august you came last last year how is your russian experience been so far they're all but always been good overjoyed. i've enjoyed the from way of way for your obvious it takes a lot but getting yourself but. i've enjoyed this will fall and obviously the football was the main thing the football was really going reasonably well with. but see also the good part is so i'm figuring a way for here in the language what i'm getting slightly better about is well not so that's going to say are you taking lessons or had one wes in the code is going off that my butt in this wasn't what i want on the half but i was just as good

because i'm a mother and obviously a good day what's your typical day here at spartak moscow quesada as you went into bonus. you come in for ten o'clock in the morning normally and then you see the doctor you get with me to call these boxes and how your show and how your body is actually know of and. after you know you're told to stay at the base toss and tell you where you can go. for it was a good life obviously do you believe a team can finally fulfil what they've been trying to do for years now and when the championship going to start the season that was of the ones in. you know that the baby started the spa the chairmanship was really really probe i mean it was to see you know because not only of unbeaten games you know of a spot which i'm sure up to classmates and then be certain you know second top or second place was getting away with consistency i think it's always it's a very very young squad we have. you know i think overall before we have the

players that the just to put into practice you could have really gone to your pick of clubs why did you choose russia in the first place for me it was the chance to go. put in a bit of a. try to get an opportunity for tom bowman to see off the circuit for you because i think it was painful so i move on it's best for everyone but do you miss the old firm you the thrill of the huge game in glasgow of course sometimes i watch the game you know what i see on t.v. and i want to call me. the best thing in football. to know for me it was probably you know a sunday afternoon at parkhead so i'll be off in a pocket. no it doesn't get much better but i just finally. on a lighter note is there anything you miss about scotland at home you know they're the deep fried mars bars are they i am the pride. of the watch other people as well . of course as well as those home comforts. i think i mean for me even ice is going

to be just i'm not going this year period show. was a part of life. that must you know there would be fresh and chips and stuff. for go watch over here and the russian craziness are great for me thanks so much for your time appreciate that from the show or let us. stay with the ball the england squad held a training session on tuesday only to find out that later that their friendly with the netherlands was called off because of the london riots the teams were due to play each other at wembley stadium on wednesday the f.a. says the decision is regrettable bond had to be made after taking advice from the police as the f.a. can not guarantee the safety of either the founds all the players strike away rooney has even appealed for calm on switches saying quote this is embarrassing for the country stop please his fellow teammates and officials also joined in the chorus of disapproval. on behalf of the squad we'd like to say that we're

disappointed but tomorrow's game has been called off. but obviously we understand the reasons behind this decision and support it. we've all seen the terrible pictures on the television and the most. but this time is the safety of the fans and the general public. but this time the whole squad would like to appeal for calm and an end to this tradition but it's been ongoing. now brazil's friendly manner while against germany is due to kick off a scheduled at eight forty five c. good this will be their first official game since a shop called american defeat to paris why in the quarterfinals lucas lay bys suspended while david lewis has a need their absence all eyes will be on youngsters neymar and gonzo both songs as players have attracted the interest of a number of europe's top clubs recently nineteen year old neymar hoping his team could do better tonight to leave the call but disappointment behind. oberman it

was a very difficult copa america tournament and unfortunately won't. know we must take the good experiences we have made it with us. to develop things further in the coming games and i have to develop myself to. that over in tennis andy murray is out of the role just up and mulcher love to losing to south african kevin anderson in his opening second round match on tuesday mari's last heralded the phone and knocking out the two time defending champion in straight sets dropping just a game in the second six three six one tomorrow is the third consecutive opening round loss in american hard gold masters this year following surprise the feats of indian wells and miami in the spring. for. doing so. it's. going to happen to me already. you know trained really hard to get ready for the always put very well you. can

go thing go i started both really which doesn't have. an approach. and i think going into. elsewhere shall go safely through to the second stage. florian lie on the town see the frenchman claiming a six three six two victory to progress into the last thirty two ways the old days because they were almost there. and finally told gulf gearing up at the athletic club for this week's p.g.a. championship including former world best tiger woods they arrived in atlanta on tuesday before a time when the driving range before seeing off with friends are you now tiger has won a major ascends the two thousand and eight years so now with a very open field this year it's going to be tough for the state's five year old who previously topped the rankings for six hundred twenty three weeks however many believe there are better for the sport than one man do in the nation including australian adam scott who won last week's bridgestone invitational in ohio held by

woods's former longtime caddie steve williams. the competition is strong at the moment luke donald played amazingly westwood playing amazing and now we have tiger you know healthy again so this is going to be interesting for everyone to watch because we're also interested in what he does and how he plays such a big factor on the game so. you know i think it's a very interesting place to go from now on and that's all the latest in sports for the moment the news headlines coming up right after the weather stay with us. for the full story we've got. the biggest issues get a human voice face to face with the news maker.

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