the legality of the alliance's intervention spoke to the former editor of the british newspaper the sun who says that libya was a good p.r. stunt for the british government and he shares his insights into the conflict that interview is next here on r.t. . today i'm talking to kelvin mackenzie former editor of the sun newspaper columnist has spoken out against the military intervention in libya saying that libya is not worth an ounce of british blood's help mackenzie that's a very strong position to take i mean the government reckons that strikes prevented a massacre in benghazi so he that's worth a few british bombs and so. well first of all we don't know whether there was going to be a massacre a big goals this was the this was the government's push this was cameron's personal speech. in the end of the day that this is libyans fighting

libyans and who are we to say who should be running their country after all when i last looked i didn't notice any of the libyans interfere when the cavaliers and the roundheads took place and never evolution or the far as i could see there was nobody from tripoli wondering where in the french revolution this is a revolution quite normal the other side of gollum's you still they seem to have rocket propelled grenades they seem to have and fire ability these people are sitting there with the spot leaning over friends saying you were. a fairly sophisticated if you take the other aspect is that the rebels themselves who i wish well although i feel very unsure about what our relationship with libya is going to be at the end of all this we have al qaeda. how do we know that at the end of the day they don't end up running the damn country we don't

know anything about this there is a justification for us doing much more them for no fly zones there is a justification when they blew up a passenger airline over lockerbie killing our people on the ground and killing people for america there was a justification to do what i suspect russia might have done under the same circumstances which you said right we're coming in we're taking you out we're bombing the hell out of the place and then there will be a change of regime and that would be more justifiable than this but libyan rebels did offer off to intervene they also may say to intervene do we not that full have a duty to go in and help the mouse no we don't want you to do we owe to a saw aid in a revolution who is trying to grab power to decide what the outcome of that war is going to be i say we have no duty while we are out there wandering around the desert there was no justification it was lockerbie there's no justification i

prefer the russian position i prefer the chinese position i prefer the german position all of which is the siamese we wish you well we're not firing any guns away not sending in any planes what now that they see you with the nation that we put out and need to be in could essentially be a bloody civil war it is a bloody civil war that's what happens in civil wars that isn't the point the reason that you have the word war involved in civil war is it's not called civil negotiation it is a fight and in the end i expect the rebels they will win but they don't need to win risking blood than our money what if now that the international community has irreparably for them that with him he actually stays in power and yet well first of all i don't care about the international community and secondly they haven't the you know they don't like him but there's lots of people they don't like i mean why they. why don't they go in while you were at libya just go down the road

a bit to the congo where literally under a thousand people have been wiped out why haven't we gone there why don't we go and protect the minority tribe in the zimbabwe water act if there's a lot of injustice in the world there may be injustice even in this country right who knows but the issue is that there is nothing that can be done the international community is a big fat rolls barry and what happens to the politicians is that they look around them so as to look at this their ratings in the polls and they say you know wall i'm not doing very well here the people who vote for me think i'm an idiot they're going to charge me you know what's in there were about to wander around north africa wander around the middle east why do we go into saudi arabia where they've banned march is the king as announce there will be severe repercussions for demonstrations and in the east i started firing everybody why don't we go into the emin why don't we go in everywhere what's your answer to all these questions why don't we go and see them and why don't we have theri because it's nothing to do

with us we have neither the power the firepower nor the will nor will as we learned from iraq where one hundred eighty of. good people died and probably forty billion forty or fifty billion quid went out of our coffers which we could possibly even for that plus what was up with that. has nothing to do with this things take time and yet we have still going into libya which by you know take has nothing to do with us is because we could have been open about gadhafi you know what it is we're war and nation trying to relive the old days of the empire cameron keep on shouting out where of all the pink bits gone you know strolling around the middle east you know without a site and without an exit plan we now have to go into these places we have no idea how to get out u.k. institutions played a big role in rehabilitating the gadhafi regime not to say don't go and say that for they go said spin in that label media now that the media has. turned on him again and how important is it for legitimizing an intervention like this and indeed

regime change will be i think we should divide the up into two points first of all the governments whoever they are in this been going on there for forty odd years we have been licking gadhafi is backside now for four decades whether we supply arms to them or we embrace them like that disgusting piece of blair but actually these people that you know at the same time politicians move either way so want to have we're kissing gadhafi backside and now we're trying to kick it it's ridiculous so the media do have a role and the role of the media. is to expose that we are trading with dictators now so what does the government say they say we have to deal with the reality the political reality we have to we have to trade

with these people and then somebody wakes up a circle to the world so trading with this bomb a mistake. it is pathetic absolutely pathetic but at the same time it every so often the government changes power and when the government changes but how they view changes power so there's no consistency to my mind actually the media have been pretty good they've been pretty good the problem we face now is we're now at war with people and we don't want so we actually have to support our troops we don't have to support ideas like cameron got nothing else to do can't decide whether we should be wandering around the halls people in the u.k. or should be wandering around the battlefields of of the middle east but we have to have to support our troops so the media gets caught in a difficult position its troops are its readers and all the center of our world. the government there it is and the libyan regime disgusting so the media gets caught in a very difficult area and you were the most notorious editor of the u.k.'s most

notorious tabloid very kind of you to put it why do you make that that it with tabloid culture essentially that made was like this easier to sell and popularized by the british public. except the first bit of taurus and i except to the sun did spectacularly undermine excellent editorship i think that they didn't actually make any difference to government policy i mean you know. the issue about the media is it's like the sea it's always with us you simply got to put up with it if you're a policymaker and all right there will be a lot of aggravation about libya now i mean it started off all right we thought we were going to blow them all out of the water we'd all be home for having having a cup of tea at the ritz bar pass for so the nightmare is is is still to be faced in my view but i don't think it's fair to blame the media for it i mean i'm

personally massively hostile to the libyan infraction mainly because i saw why up and in iraq these things take peculiar which you can't really work out intellectually nor gas nevertheless. you know very much in favor of our soldiers and so you get toward a bit the media restrung go i think you're right about that that the media stronger because of what happened in iraq i mean the trouble was that a million people marched against the iraq war blair blair was not telling his cabinet and the things will be revealed now because he was scared they were going to leave so basically they were deciding it is though you and i were having a nice chat it's another glass of so in the room there said oh yes it would be what you think given the office he was is a bit of a go yes good idea tom and then they went in right so the million were ignored people say that the government various governments learn nothing from the iraq and afghanistan but do you think what in fact what you learned was how to sell another

military intervention no absolutely the issue is quite clear. we didn't want iraq it was lumbered on us by a vain glorious prime minister. cameron is now wandering around in the desert of to broke trying to work out to get out he would look in the idiot at the end of all this but the but the underlying issue is with libya. there have been no deaths on our side just why if crashed and god forbid we lose ten people all all by the way they use those heat seeking missiles which you can basically just walk in and according to today's papers. if that happened we saw i've been blown out of the sky i don't even think about it so the issue is we haven't dropped any blood yeah we've dropped tens of millions of pounds which we haven't gotten but not one single one of the people is where that happens the game and the p.r.

game will change politically what does someone like david cameron gain from waging a war in africa a military of what cameron saw what was in it for him or for a country he's a pro for he is unfortunately a professional bleeding. and so he's one of those guys who will rush around endlessly he's a total political animal by the way rush around ender slate saying something must be done yawns there is something mustn't be done this like when you're about to send off a really stinking is. on the night before to your boss right don't send a mile go to bed wake up in the morning reread it and decide whether it was a good idea or not cameron hasn't got that ability basically i think he's gone mad he's gone mad very early he's only been in power a year now balmy is he going to be if he last as long as blair blair was so if you follow the end of it. my suspicion is that the pressure is just driven by kelvin

mackenzie thank you very much. lou.

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strongest side ball tonight is friendly with a bank here in the russian capital. has the irish. band. called off because of the riots in london. so russia. will pick his best eleven for wednesday's friendly game as saying there's no time to experiment ahead of the false approaching european qualifiers however the dutchman will have to deal with als and they. picked up an injury during saturday's two male victory. meanwhile said they are missing to tell players. of chelsea end. of it but despite that advocate told richard it is still a strong team and russia will need to play well to prepare for september's european qualifiers against macedonia and group b. jointly does the match starts at seven pm time.

to go for the final matches. so if you know what you're going to do the national teams play i mean you. know very very good song defensively. still. playing live. i really believe. it's not a time for experimentation is it really just trying to solidify your stance and eleven and get playing together. to play with the best and engineers. and we don't wonder if they can do is now. but also for the games who are coming up so send them back to say that they

still must be feeling very confident something still in a very good position going into the small stuff old games yeah yeah well we all we have everything about our own and. we've got three home games as well so we have to do that plus the fact that i have the feeling that in all the qualification period we were the better side so now we have to continue in the final four good question of. the greats and friend of mine just recently that something you'd be able to provide tonight and how do you explain russia's inability to win for you much as it was last year or so i was happy to do almost was the last one you get against a move and i was dropping that was a very good. players who are not normally direct but they do really well now the stars there's a show that they can do it as well. and while russia plans i had fallen qualify against ireland of been a tough couple of months for irishman aiden mcgeady that's when a five year old has missed almost a. clash as they say to an ankle injury after being widely regarded as the club's

player of the season but it is spoke to our own irish men here in a nail. i'm joined here today by republic of ireland and sports like moscow winger eighty mcgeady eighty thanks so much for taking the time to speak to us first things first how is your injury progressing it's going slightly better of. about history and obviously branch of the boy people when they're out for it may months of broken legs. push with whatever happens to me of course but now it's just the skin bell. and just importantly by playing with another two or three weeks now you've been in russia just about a year now i believe the start of august you came last last year how is your russian experience been so far they're all but always been good overjoyed. i've enjoyed the saw from way of way for your obvious it takes a lot but getting used to but. i've enjoyed this will follow and obviously the football was the main thing the football was really going reasonably well with. us what she always said the good part is so i'm to get into the way for here in the

language but you know i'm getting slightly better those who are not so that's going to say are you taking lessons or one where there's a go enough that my but in this wasn't what i want on the half. i was just as good because i'm out and obviously good dear what's your typical day here at spartak moscow quesada as you pointed to bonuses you come in for ten o'clock in the morning normally and then you see the doctor you get with can you recall these boxes and how your shoe and and how your body is that you know of and. after you know your speed based or so you know you can call. us football is a good life obviously do you believe a team can finally fulfil what they've been trying to do for years now and win a championship going to start the season that was of the ones in. you know that the way we started the chairmanship was really really probe i mean who's to say you know because not only of unbeaten games you know of a spot which i'm sure up to christmas and then be certain you know second top or

second place consistency i think is. it was so it's a very very young squad we have here. you know i think overall if we have the proof that the just to put into practice you could have really gone to your pick of clubs why did you choose russia in the first place for me it was the chance to go. to go and play in a bit of a. ploy to get all the changes to tom bowman to see off the assertive lawyer because i think it was painful to show a move one was best for everyone but do you miss the all from you the thrill of the huge game in glasgow of course sometimes are a must the game you know when i see on t.v. and when i'm back call me you know you're the best thing in football. to know for me it was probably you know a sunny afternoon at parkhead saw the earth in a pocket you know there are no it doesn't get much better but i just finally. on a lighter note is there anything you miss a bite about scotland at home you know there that deep fried mars bars are they i

am very peeps right or stayed with a buzz of the five miles well. yeah of course as well as those home comforts. i think the main thing that even ice is going to we just are not going this year period show friends but still it's always a part of life. there must you know the odds it's a fashion show up since the. program which are over here and the russian cuisine is a great for me thanks so much for your time up pretty well that's right so all right yes. i say with a bladder england's called hell a training session on tuesday only to find out later that the friendly with the netherlands was called off because of the long run riots the teams were due to play each other at their wildly stadium on wednesday the football association sans their decision these regrettable but had to be made into the talking to the police as the f.a. can not guarantee the safety of the fans all the players striker wayne rooney has even appealed for calm on switzerland saying quote this is embarrassing for the country stop please. meanwhile italy is friendly with world champions spain is due

to kick off a scheduled later today as well as brazil's match with germany instead get this will be brazil's first official game since a shock copa america defeat to paraguayan the quarterfinals lucas levi is suspended while david lewis has a knee injury in their absence all eyes will be on the youngsters neymar and gonzalez both sound as players have attracted the interest of a number of europe's top clubs recently nineteen year old dame are hoping his team could do better tonight to leave the call but disappointed find. a woman it was a very difficult copa america tournament and unfortunately we weren't always quite know we must take the good experiences we have made it with us. to develop things further in the upcoming games and i have to develop myself to want. to get it over in tennis and tamara's out of there or just after losing to south african kevin anderson in his opening second round match on tuesday mari's last howel the

opponent knocking out the two time defending champion in straights and stopping just a game in the second six three six one it's mari's third consecutive opening round loss in american hardcore monsters this year following the surprise defeat in indian wells and miami in the spring. slow it seem to be doing so. and some may already want to. try and really hard to get ready for i've always played very well here and. i can thing go i start both really which doesn't. thing going on. elsewhere a shoggoth scase safely through to the second stage on to the beach in germany gloria and lawyer that sound see the frenchman claiming a six three six two victory to progress into the last thirty two way will face

brazil in terms of the. top golfers like hearing up at the athletic club for this week's p.g.a. championship including former world best tiger woods a arrived in atlanta on tuesday the four time winner warmed up at the driving range be fourteen off with a friend as well tiger hasn't won a major tournaments as the two thousand and eight years so now with a very open field this year is going to be tough for the thirty five year old who previously taught the rankings for six hundred twenty three weeks however many believe there are better for the sport than one man to a nation including australian adam scored one last week's bridgestone invitational in ohio held by woods for a long time caddie steve williams. the competition is strong at the moment luke donald played amazingly westwood playing amazing and now we have tiger you know healthy again so this is going to be interesting for everyone to watch because we're also interested in what he does and

how he plays such a big factor on the game so. you know i think it's a very interesting place to go from now on and in summer i've been use new zealand prime minister john key hinted the old blacks captain reaching mccall could get a knighthood if his team win their home world cup this year missed a key adding that the final against their neighbors the wall of is a dream scenario of course meanwhile is expected to leave the world stop trying to be nation to their first trophy in twenty four years the thirty year old with us following the footsteps of england where you live woodward who was knighted after his team won the world title back in two thousand and three he lost the club. it's all the sport for they all want me so we'll be here with the news headlines but first as to whether. commission free cretaceous and free transport charges free. range

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