are being asked over the big ality of the alliance's intervention or she spoke to the former editor of the british newspaper the sun who says that libya was a good p.r. stunt for the british government has he sarah's his insights into the conflict the interview is next. today i'm talking to kelvin mackenzie former editor of the sun newspaper columnist has spoken out against the military intervention in libya saying that libya is not worth an ounce of british bloods mckenzie that's a very strong position to take i mean the government reckons that as strikes prevented a massacre in benghazi so he that's worth a few british bombs and so. well first of all we don't know whether there was going to be a massacre a big goals this was the this was the government push this was cameron's personal speech. in the end of the day that this is libyans fighting

libyans and who are we to say who should be running their country after all when i lost a lot i didn't notice any of the libyans interfere when the cavaliers and the roundheads took place in a revolution or the far as i could see there was nobody from tripoli wondering where in the french revolution this is a revolution quite normal the other side of got guns and still they seem to have rocket propelled grenades they seem to have and fire ability these people sitting there with the spotted gun leaning over friends saying you are. fairly sophisticated and if you take the other aspect is that the rebels themselves who i wish well although i feel very unsure about what our relationship with libya is going to be at the end of all this we have al qaeda wandering around. how do we know the the end of the day they don't end up running the country we don't know

anything about this there is a justification for us doing much more them for no fly zones there is a justification when they blow up a passenger. over lockerbie killing our people on the ground and killing people for america there was a justification to do what i suspect russia might have done under the same circumstances which you said roy we're coming in we're taking you out we're bombing the hell out of the place and then there will be a change of regime and that would be more justifiable than this but libyan rebels did offer to intervene they also may say to intervene do we not that full have a duty to go in and help the mouse no we don't want you to do we go to a saw aid in a revolution who is trying to grab power to decide what the outcome of that war is going to be i say we have no duty while we are out there wandering around the desert there was

a justification it was lockerbie there's no justification i prefer the russian position i prefer the chinese position i prefer the german position all of which is the siamese we wish you well we're not firing any guns away not sending in any planes what now that they see you with a nation that we put out and leave the libyans to what could essentially be a bloody civil war it is a bloody civil war that's what happens in civil wars that isn't the point the reason that you have the word war involved in civil war is it's not called civil negotiation it is a fight and in the end i expect the rebels they will win but they don't need to win risking the now money what if now that the international community has irreparably full and that with him he actually stays in power and yet well first of all i don't care about the international community and secondly they haven't but you know they don't like him but there's lots of people they don't like i mean why they. why don't they go in while you were at libya just go down the road

a bit to the congo where literally under a thousand people have been wiped out why haven't we gone there why don't we go and protect the minority tribe in the zimbabwe water after there's a lot of injustice in the world there may be injustice even in this country who knows but the issue is that there is nothing that can be done the international community is a big fat rolls berry and what happens to the politicians is that they look around but themselves look at this their ratings in the polls and they sorry john i was i'm not doing very well here the people who vote for me think i'm an idiot they're going to charge me out of ten they were about to wander around north africa wander around the middle east why do we go into saudi arabia where they've banned march is the king as announce there will be severe repercussions for demonstrations and in the east they started firing everybody why don't we go into the emin why don't we go in everywhere what's your answer to all these questions why don't we go and see them and why don't we go into syria because it's nothing to do with us we have

neither the power the firepower nor the will nor will as we learned from iraq where one hundred eighty of. good people died and probably forty billion forty or fifty billion quid went out of our coffers which we could possibly even for that possible was up but it. has nothing to do with this things take time and yet we have still going into libya which by you know take also has nothing to do with us is because we could have been open about gadhafi you know what it is we're war and nation trying to relive the old days of the empire cameron keep on shouting out where of all the pink bits gone you know strolling around the middle east you know without a site and without an exit plan we now have to go into these places we have no idea how to get out u.k. institutions played a big role in rehabilitating the gadhafi regime not to say don't go and say that for they go said spin in that label media now that the media has. turned on him again and how important is it for legitimizing an intervention like this and indeed

regime change will be i think we should divide it up into two points first of all the governments whoever they are in this been going on there for forty odd years we have been licking gadhafi as backside now for for decades whether we supply arms to them or we embrace them like that disgusting piece of blair but actually these people that you know at the same time politicians move either way so want to have we're kissing gadhafi backside and they're we're trying to kick it it's ridiculous so the media do have a role and the role of the media is to expose that we are trading with dictators now so what does the government say they say we have to deal with the reality the political reality we have to we have to trade

with these people and then somebody wakes up a circle to the world so trading with this problem a mistake. it is pathetic absolutely pathetic but at the same time it every so often the government changes power and when the government changes for how they view changes power so there's no consistency to my mind actually the media have been pretty good they've been pretty good the problem we face now is we're now at war with people and we don't want so we actually have to support our troops we don't have to support ideas like cameron got nothing else to do can't decide whether we should be wandering around all spittle in the u.k. or should we wander around the battlefields of of the middle east but we have to have to support our troops so the media gets caught in a difficult position its troops are its readers and all the center of our world. the government they're idiots and the libyan regime a disgusting so the media gets caught in

a very difficult area and you were the most notorious editor of the u.k.'s most notorious tabloid very kind of you to put it why do you rate that so that it with tabloid culture essentially that made was like this easier to sell and popularized by the british public i except the first bit i'm a taurus and i accept the the sun did spectacularly undermine excellent editorship i think though that they didn't actually make any difference to government policy i mean you know. the issue about the media is it's like the sea it's always with us you've simply got to put up with it if you're a policymaker and all right there will be a lot of aggravation about libya now i mean it started off all right we thought we were going to blow it blow them all out of the water we'd all be home for having having a cup of tea at the ritz bar past four so the nightmare is is is still to be faced in my view but i don't think it's fair to blame the media for it i mean i'm

personally massively hostile to the libyan infraction mainly because i saw wired and in iraq these things take peculiar which you can't really work out intellectually nor guess. nevertheless. you know i'm very much in favor of our soldiers and so you get torn a bit the media restrung go i think you're right about that but the media stronger because of what happened in iraq i mean that the trouble was that a million people marched against the iraq war blair blair was not telling his cabinet and the things will be revealed now because he was scared they were going to leak so basically they were deciding it as though you and i were having a nice chat it's another glass of beer said oh yes it would be what you think given the office he was is a bit of a go yes good idea tom and then they went in right so the million were ignored people will say that the government various governments know nothing from the iraq and afghanistan but do you think what in fact what you learned was how to sell

another military intervention no absolutely the issue is quite clear. we didn't want iraq it was lumbered on us by a vainglorious prime minister. cameron is now wandering around in the desert of to brook trying to work to get out he would look in the audio to the end of all this but the but the underlying issue is with libya. there have been no deaths on our side just why if crashed and god forbid we lose ten people all all by the way they use those heat seeking missiles which you can basically just walk in and according to today's papers. if that happened we saw i've been blown out of the sky don't even think about it so the issue is we haven't dropped any blood yeah we've dropped tens of millions of pounds which we have a goal but not one single one of people is as died where that happens the game and

the p.r. game will change politically what does someone like david cameron gain from waging a war in africa a military of what cameron saw what was in it for him or for a country he's a pro for he is unfortunately a professional bleeding. and so he's one of those guys who rush around endlessly he's a total political animal by the way rush around endlessly saying something must be done the answer is something mustn't be done this like when you about to send off a really stinking is. on the night before to your boss right. don't send that a mile go to bed wake up in the morning reread it and decide whether it was a good idea or not cameron hasn't got that ability basically i think he's going mad bees gone mad very early is only been in power a year now balmy is he going to be if he last as long as blair blair was thirty five at the end of it. my suspicion is that the pressure is just driven by kelvin

mackenzie thank you very much. you believe in science and technology from. the future coverage.

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restore calm after three days of disorder the government's social policies are blamed for britain's worst rioting in years. america's financial woes quincey its crown as the world's top economy pass to china in less than four years investors are expected to turn more often to asian markets to escape the economic turmoil in the us and europe. puzzles russian officials turn a blind eye to complaints about pedophile assaults members of the public launched their own vigilant craft out. sexual predators current sex crimes malls are slammed for being too soft and failing to keep the threat from the country's playgrounds. sports is next here on our union joins us and i understand it's test time for the russian national football team tonight isn't that very much so they say you have big games at the start of next month european qualifiers they've got to get off to a good start against serbia tonight we'll have a preview an up close the rest of the sport in just

a second. great to have your company. today plenty head including. gearing up with the latest euro two thousand and twelve qualifiers kicking off and under a month's time russia say they'll name their strongest the weapon for tonight's friendly with serbia. in the game two time defending champion andy murray crashes. in his opening match against kevan. is that playing no. taking off in the russian capital for the second time not a lot of stress free flying but thrills and spills. that's coming up in just a second but let's start pit side where russian football manager dick advocaat says his strongest eleven players will start later against serbia the friendly is

russia's last before september's european qualifiers. for star were to make do without the need to. be soft who picked up an injury to know when a tabletop in. serbia well they are in a worse state. from. both with knocks russia will enter the clash just like favorites with next month's euro qualifiers against muscle group be very much in their mind. caught up with his boss straight after their last training session. in the. weeks to go before the final matches. so if you know what you're going to be a national team to play i mean you. know very very good song defensively point.

still doing. playing glinda. game if they were good we have a good relationship with them so that we can see later every little it will play because it's now the time for experimentation is it really just trying to solidify your starting eleven and get playing together. to play with the baseline and engineers because i'm going to do so for some promises that. we don't want to take and who is now but also for the games who are coming up so i send them back to say that we still must be feeling very confident i can still win a very good position going into full games yet. we have everything. we get now three home games as well so we have to do that plus the fact that i have the feeling there and all the qualification we were the better side so now we have to continue in the final four it's a question of. the greats and friend of mine just recently transferred something you'd be looking to put right tonight and how do you explain russia's inability to

win for you much as of last year or so i was happy to be honest it was the last for a new game against the move in our history i think there was a very good game with the players who are not normally the regulars who did it really well now the start of this is showed that they can do it as well. england's friendly with the netherlands meanwhile has been postponed this evening because of the riots in london but plenty other big games to keep an eye out for including brazil's friendly with germany in stuttgart this will be the brazilians first match since their shock america departure at the hands of part of why in the quarterfinals image based clears a look at slaver david lewis myside through suspension and injury respectively in their absence all eyes will be on youngsters neymar and ganso both santos players have attracted the interest of a number of europe's top clubs recently nineteen year old neymar seeing he seemed to leave the comp disappointment behind this. moment it was a very difficult copa america tournament and unfortunately we weren't so it's quite

early to know we must take the good experiences we have made it with us. to develop things further in the upcoming games and to have to develop myself to. talk tennis around the murray's competitive preparations for this month's us open ground suffered a blow and choose they the scot bowing out of the rogers cup in montreal following defeat the south african kevin anderson in his opening match of the tournament murray's less heralded opponent knocking out the two time defending champion in straight sets dropping just a game in the second six three six one how it ended its maurice third consecutive opening run loss in the american hard court masters season this year and surprised the phaeton indian wells miami. i've always put very well here and the. thing go i started both really really badly which doesn't help against. early. and i think going to. richard guess k.s.

syfy through to the next stage after beating german florian mayer ten seeded frenchman clinching a six three six two victory to progress into the last thirty two where he'll face brazilian tamasha. in the women's game kim clijsters had to enter rogers cup run before truly began the world over to suffering abdominal injury in her first round clash with judging in toronto the belgian feeling the injury flaring up during the warm up but that didn't stop the twenty eight year old from taking the first set six three. two one in the second set when she called it a day after being unable to withstand the pain a lucky break for chinese qualifier jai with clijsters playing it safe out of the us open a third straight title is the prize that awaits in new york from august twenty ninth. i just can't just getting worse and worse and i tried to call the trainer. you know we can do much more than the tee but you already have. something to just try to relieve the pain. really help and i just. wasn't you know the only

probably option was to retire business as usual though for world over sixteen on the eve of a truce with the defeated chinese drying in straight sets six one six one the score in a dominating the play czech qualifier seventy seven is up next for the serb for her second rogers cup since two thousand and six. defending n.f.l. champions green bay of hard to defend their preparations ahead of the new american football season some part training camp sessions some of the criticism leveled at the holders quarterback aren't rogers channeling former n.b.a. star allen iverson when i ask just what's going on. practice. talk about practice. or talk about a game. plan about practice or overly concerned with. with a tough environment and. we just got to clean things up a little bit too many moments. moscow was the place to be this week if you like

your sport to come with a few laughs the russian capital playing host to the red ball through target and for the second time in three years robert for dunny and went along to find out. they can barely overcome gravity. it will hardly be safe to call fluke turk which is german full flight day actually sport. but it is competitive it is creative and it generates a lot of fun with participants presenting their homemade flying machines and putting them through their paces which have to be unsinkable and they're not alone to have any kind of fan gym performances are judged by the following criteria distance of the flight for a t.v. and showmanship well it's worth mentioning that the last two aspects usually

dominate the first one. red bull fluke took heed the russian capital for the second time proving to be an extremely attractive learned from muscovites with nearly one hundred thousand spectators watching the show under the it's the very first time we've taken porridge in the fluked and then i'm just stunned that there are so many spectators there is such a lot of enthusiasm with index begley to be so exciting it's been an awesome experience one is only part of the action here as some followers of looked out have plenty of motivation well for others it's a way of life but we do care about the result if we fail to take first place we will try again next time otherwise we'll just be resting on our laurels. we've met so many beautiful intelligent and interesting people here that's why we're going to take part in fluke dark events every single year that's pushed. or. when it comes

to flick tuck apparently the flight once nation has no limits some strive just for the feeling of taking off some do their best unstained with zero creations but this time around creativity the distance loves to respond not usually known to fly but do seem to be boosted by barrels of beer. these red giant bringing victory to the feasting team from the sultan russian city over stuff. we were aiming to surprise both the spectators and our competitors and of course all those who supported us but even damaged our award by holding it too tight. and blindly regarding the once boring component of the event the furthest distance flown was achieved by the team from the yellow there are self-made airplanes flight merging and fool nineteen minutes of the world record is

a considerably longer sixty three meters robert r t no skill. after watching all the still not exactly sure of the rules for lobbyists all the sports next. hungry for the full story we've got it first hand the biggest issues get a human voice face to face with the news makers on. morning news today violence is once again flared up. these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. china operation.

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hits more cities across the u.k. while in london thousands of police managed to restore calm after three days of disorder the government social policies are blamed for britain's worst sliding in years. china could still america's crown as the world's biggest economy in less than four years but investors are expected to turn to asian markets to escape the economic turmoil in the u.s. and europe. in a rush the markets to negative again as investors are convinced that the rally on wall street can be sustained we'll have more in business that around twenty minutes time. and as russian officials turn a blind eye to complaints about pedophiles assaults members of the public wants their own vigilant crackdown on sexual predators.