asked over the legality of the alliance's intervention or just most of the former editor of the british newspaper the sun who says that libya was a good p.r. stunt for the british government as he shares his insights into the conflict next. to them talking to kelvin mackenzie former. newspaper columnist has spoken out against the military intervention in libya saying that libya is not worth an ounce of british blood's help mackenzie that's a very strong position to take i mean the government reckons that as strikes prevented a massacre in benghazi easily that's worth a few british bombs and so. well first of all we don't know whether there was going to be a massacre a big goals this was the this was the government's push this was cameron's personal speech. in near end of the day that this is libyans fighting

libyans and who are we to say who should be running their country after all when i lost a lot i didn't notice any of the libyans interfere when the cavaliers and the roundheads took place in evolution or the far as i could see there was nobody from tripoli wondering where in the french revolution this is a revolution quite normal the other side of got guns mysteriously they seem to have rocket propelled grenades they seem to have. fire ability these people sitting there with the spotted gun leaning over friends saying you'll do it fairly sophisticated if you take the other aspect is that the rebels themselves who i wish well although i feel very unsure about what our relationship with libya is going to be at the end of all this we have al qaeda wandering around. how do we know that at the end of the day they don't end up running the damn country we don't

know anything about this there is a justification for us doing much more them for no fly zones there is a justification when they blew up a passenger airline over lockerbie killing our people on the ground and killing people for america there was a justification to do what i suspect russia might have done under the same circumstances which you said roy we're coming in we're taking you out we're bombing the hell out of the place and then there will be a change of regime and that would be more justifiable than this but libyan rebels did offer to intervene they also may say to intervene do we not that full have a duty to go in and help the mouse no we don't want you to do we go to a saw aid in a revolution who is trying to grab power to decide what the outcome of that war is going to be i say we have no duty while we are out there wandering around the desert there was a justification it was lockerbie there's no justification i prefer the russian

position i prefer the chinese position i prefer the german position all of which is the siamese we wish you well we're not firing any guns away not sending in any planes what now that they see you with nation that we put out and need the libyans could essentially be a bloody civil war it is a bloody civil war that's what happens in civil wars there isn't the point the reason that you have the word war involved in civil war is it's not called civil negotiation it is a fight and in the end i expect the rebels they will win but they don't need to win risking the now money what if now that the international community has irreparably for them that with him he actually stays in power and yet first of all i don't care about the international community and secondly they haven't you know they don't like him but there's lots of people they don't like i mean why they're. actually why didn't they go in while you were at libya just go down the road

a bit to the congo where literally under a thousand people have been wiped out why haven't we gone there why don't we go and protect the minority tribe in zimbabwe water after there's a lot of injustice in the world there may be injustice even in this country who knows but the issue is that there is nothing that can be done the international community is a big fat rolls berry and what happens to the politicians is that they look around them so they look at this their ratings in the polls and they say you know wall i'm not doing very well here the people who vote for me think i'm an idiot they're going to charge me you know what's in there were about to wander around north africa wonder around the middle east why do we go into saudi arabia where they've banned march is the king as announce there will be severe repercussions for demonstrations and in the east they started firing everybody why don't we go into the am in why don't we go in everywhere what's your answer to all these questions why don't we go into yemen why don't we go into syria because it's nothing to do with us we have neither the power the firepower nor the will nor will as we learned

from iraq where one hundred eighty of. good people died and probably forty billion forty or fifty billion quid went out of our coffers which we could possibly even for that profit was up but it. has nothing to do with this things take time and yet we have still going into libya which by you know take a has nothing to do with us is because we could have been open about gadhafi you know what he is where war and nation trying to relive the old days of the empire cameron keep on shouting out where of all the pink bits gone you know strolling around the middle east you know without a site and without an exit plan we know how to go into these places we have no idea how to get out u.k. institutions played a big role in rehabilitating the gadhafi regime not they don't look at and say that they go said spin in that label media now that the media has. turned on him again how important is it for legitimizing an intervention like this and indeed regime

change will be i think we should divide the up into two points first of all the governments whoever they are in this been going on there for forty odd years we have been licking gadhafi as backside now for for decades whether we supply arms to them or we embrace them like that disgusting piece of work blair but actually these people that you know at the same time politicians movie that way so when times we're kissing gadhafi is backside and there we're trying to kick it it's ridiculous so the media do have a role and the role of the media is to expose that we are trading with dictators now so what does the government say they say we have to deal with the reality the political reality we have to we have to trade with these people and then somebody wakes up us over to the world so trading with

this problem is that. it is pathetic absolutely pathetic but at the same time it every so often the government changes power and when the government changes sprout their view changes power so there's no consistency to my mind actually the media have been pretty good they've been pretty good the problem we face now is we're now at war with people and we don't want so we actually have to support our troops we don't have to support ideas like cameron got nothing else to do can't decide whether we should be wandering around all spittle in the u.k. or should be wandering around the battlefields of of the middle east but we have to have to support our troops so the media gets caught in a difficult position its troops are its readers and all the center of our world. the government they're idiots and the libyan regime a disgusting so the media gets caught in a very difficult area and you were the most notorious editor of the u.k.'s most

notorious tabloid very kind of you to put it why do you rate fat that it with tabloid culture essentially that made was like this easier to sell and popularized by the british public. except the first bit. except to the sun did spectacularly undermine excellent editorship i think that they didn't actually make any difference to government policy i mean you know. the issue about the media is it's like the sea it's always with us you've simply got to put up with it if you're a policymaker and all right there will be a lot of aggravation about libya now i mean it started off all right we thought we were going to blow it blow them all out the water we'd all be home for having having a cup of tea at the ritz bar past four so the nightmare is is is still to be faced in my view but i don't think it's fair to blame the media for it i mean i'm personally massively hostile to the libyan infraction mainly because i saw

why up and in iraq these things take peculiar which you can't really work out intellectually nor guess. nevertheless. you know i'm very much in favor of our soldiers and so you get toward a bit the media restrung go i think you're right about that but the media stronger because of what happened in iraq i mean that the trouble was that a million people marched against the iraq war blair blair was not telling his cabinet and the things will be revealed now because he was scared they were going to leak so basically they were deciding it as though you and i were having a nice chat another glass of beer said oh yes it would be it would you think given the office he was a bit of a go yes good idea tom and then they went in right so the million were ignored people will say that the government various governments not nothing from iraq and afghanistan but do you think what in fact what will learn how to sell another

military intervention no absolutely the issue is quite clear. we didn't want iraq it was lumbered on us by a vainglorious prime minister. cameron is now wandering around in the desert of to brook trying to work out how to get out he would look at the idea of the end of all this but the but the underlying issue is with libya. there have been no deaths on our side just why if alec crashed and god forbid we lose ten people all all by the way they use those heat seeking missiles which you can basically just walk in and according to today's papers. if that happened we saw it being blown out of the sky don't even think about it so the issue is we haven't dropped any blood yeah we've dropped tens of millions of pounds which we haven't go all but not one single one of our people has as died where that happens the game and the p.r.

game will change politically what does someone like david cameron gain from waging a war in africa a military of what cameron saw what was in it for him or for a country he's a pro for he is unfortunately a professional bleeding. and so he's one of those guys who rush around endlessly he's a total political animal by the way rush around endlessly saying something must be done yon's there is something mustn't be done this light when you're about to send off a really stinking is. on the night before to your boss right. don't send that a mile go to bed wake up in the morning reread it and decide whether it was a good idea or not cameron hasn't got that ability by sickly i think he's going mad mad very early he's only been in power a year i mean is he going to be feeling also as well as blair blair was such a follow up at the end of it all. my suspicion is that the pressure is just driven

by kelvin mackenzie thank you very much. heat. of the field is. just so please. just so. easy to.

too much brighter than if you move. from phones to. stone totty don't come. violence into more cities across the u.k. while in london thousands of police managed to restore calm after three days of

disorder the government social policies are blamed for britain's worst rioting in years. america's financial woes could see its crown as the world's top economists house of china in less than four years best regards back to turn more often to asian markets to escape the economic turmoil in the us and europe. has russian officials turned a blind eye to complaints about pedophile assault members of the public wants their own vigilante crackdown on sexual predators. up next we get the latest from the world of sports from you know neal and i understand there's been a big upset on the tennis courts what happened yeah it's all happening in canada and but the men's game on the women's game the u.s. open final groundswell of the season is just weeks away and some of the fear is the really shouldn't be losing in the first stage at this stage and we have much more on that coming up in just a sec. great

to have your company this is sports to me i'm you know meal plans you had over the next ten minutes or so including. gearing up with the latest euro twenty twelve qualifiers kicking off a number of months time sealing their strongest eleven for tonight's friendly with serbia. the last two time defending champion andy murray crushing saw that the color of the mobsters in his opening match against kevan understand. this is a bird is a plane no it's again it's taken off in the recent couple for the second time a lot of stress free flying but thrills and spills a little. more than just a second but let's start pit side where russian football manager dick. strongest eleven players will start this evening against serbia the friendly before september's european qualifiers dutchman is forced however to make do with. who

picked up an injury during saturday's two know when table topping. serbia well they are in a worse state. than chelsea and enters. both russia will enter the clash just like favorites with next month's euro qualifiers against muscle donia and group b. joint leaders of the republic of ireland very much in their sights. but russia's ball straight after training session. is still doing. so if you gave. me a little play because it's a reasonable time for experimentation is it really just trying to solidify your stance and eleven and playing to get. to play with the engine used. do. that's improved since i believe. we don't wonder if they can do

is now not from those clubs but also for the games who are coming up so send them back do they still must be feeling very confident something stolen a very good position going into these last four games yeah yeah well we all we have everything. we've got now three home games as well so we have to do that plus the fact that i have the feeling that in all mcauliffe because you can we were the better side so now we have to continue in the fun for going on a question of. the great some friend of mine just recently transferred something you'd be looking to provide tonight and how do you explain russia's inability to win for you much as it was last year or so i was happy to be honest it was a loss for a new game against a move and i was dropping there was a very good guy who is to the players who are not normally the regulars but then they go really well. for starters there's a show that they can do does well. in the netherlands meanwhile has been postponed this evening because of the riots in london but plenty other big games to keep an

eye out for including brazil is friendly with germany and stuff darts this will be the brazilians first not since their shock cup america departure the hounds are why in a quarter finals english based you look at david luis missile at three suspension and injury respectively in their absence all eyes will be neymar gallon so both some toss players on both in the sights of europe's top clubs nineteen year old neymar seeing the cup but disappointment behind the scenes. it was a very difficult copa america tournament and unfortunately we're into it's quite early and now we're must take the good experiences we have made it with us try to develop things further in the upcoming games and i have to devote myself to. brings us to tennis around amory's competitive preparations for this month's us open grand slam the final of the year suffered a blow when she was there the scot bowing out of the rogers cup in montreal following defeat to see. african kevin understand in the opening match of his

tournament mary's less heralded opponent knocking out the two time defending champ in straight sets dropping just a game in the second six three six one how it ended it is maurice third consecutive opening round loss in american masters offense this fall and surprise defeats in indian wells on miami. always very well here and the. thing go i started both really really badly which doesn't help again so in the. early. thing going so far richard gaskin to see if we through to the next camera there after being german florian mayer ten seeded frenchman gask a par into a six three six two victory to progress into the last thirty two for brazilian thomas to choose. ok in the women's game can clijsters had to enter rogers cup run before truly began the world number two suffering injury in her first rowing clash with judging in toronto the belgian scene she felt the in off during the warm up

but didn't stop the twenty two will taking the first set six three pleasure starting to warm in the second set called the day after being able to withstand the pain a lucky break in for a chinese qualifier shy with playing it safe ahead of the u.s. open a third straight title is the prize up for grabs in new york from august twenty. third just said that you can't just getting worse and worse and i tried to call the trainer out. there so what would you know we can do much more than the tape that you already have. something to just try to relieve the pain and. really help launch a. crucial was that you know the only probably option was to retire and world number sixteen even if it was in dominant form though against chinese showing six one six on the straight sets scoreline czech qualifier if they've been nice about is up next for the search for a second rogers cup since two thousand and six. and i felt champions green bay have

had to defend their preparations ahead of the new american football season so part trimming camps ations among some of the criticism levelled out the holders. are in rogers channeling former n.b.a. star allen iverson when asked just what's going on. practice. practice. again. practice. we're just going to clean things up. and finally moscow is the place to be this week if you like your sport to come with a few laughs the russian capital playing host to the red ball offense for the second time in three years rubber for dunny and went along to find out a little more. they can barely overcome gravity. it would hardly be safe to call fluke jog which

is german full flight day actually sport. competitive it is creative and it generates a lot of fun with but this bins presenting their homemade glowing machines and putting them through their paces which have to be unsinkable and they're not allowed to have any kind of pendulum before the answers are judged by the full. distance of the flight creativity and showmanship well it's worth mentioning that the last two aspects usually dominate the first one. read booth looked at he had the russian capital for the second time during to be an extremely attractive learned from muscovites with nearly one hundred thousand spectators watching the show. it's the very first time with taken porridge in the hoop and i'm just stunned that there are so many spectators there is such

a lot of enthusiasm it would index badly to be so exciting it's been an awesome experience one is only part of the action here as some followers of looked out have plenty of motivation well for other. it's a way of life that is but we do care about the result if we fail to take first place we will try again next time otherwise we'll just be resting on our laurels. we've met so many puta full intelligent and interesting people here that's why we're going to take part in fluke documents every single yeah that's for sure. when it comes to flicked up apparently the flight. has no limits some strive just for the feeling of taking off. to their best. with zero gratian but this time around pretty busy distance loves are not usually known to fly but

do seem to be boosted by barrels of beer. these would bring in victory to the feasting team from the sultan russian city over stuff. we were aiming to surprise both the spectators and our competitors and of course all those who supported us even damaged our award by holding it too tight. and finally regarding the once boring component of the events of the furthest distance flown was achieved by the team from. their self-made airplanes flight. at nineteen minutes to the world record is a considerably longer sixty three meters. r.t. . and wonderful stuff indeed a lot is all your sports i'll see you in just under two hours time with.

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