spoke to the former editor of the british newspaper the sun who told us that libya was a good p.r. stunt for the british government as he shares his insights into the conflict it's coming right up. today i'm talking to kelvin mackenzie former editor of the sun newspaper columnist has spoken out against the military intervention in libya saying that libya is not worth an ounce of british blood's help mackenzie that's a very strong position to take i mean the government reckons that as strikes prevented a massacre in benghazi easily that's worth a few british bombs and so it seems well first of all we don't know whether there was going to be a massacre a big goals this was the this was the government's push this was cameron's personal speech. in the end of the day that this is libyans fighting libyans and who are we to say who should be running their country after all when i

last looked i didn't notice any of the libyans interfere when the cavaliers and the roundheads took place and revolution or the far as i could see there was nobody from tripoli wondering where in the french revolution this is a revolution quite normal the other side of got guns mysteriously they seem to have rocket propelled grenades they seem to have anti aircraft fire ability these people are sitting there with the spotted gun leaning over french saying your. fairly sophisticated if you take the other aspect is that the rebels themselves who i wish well although i feel very unsure about what our relationship with libya is going to be at the end of all this we have al qaeda wandering around. how do we know the the end of the day that they don't end up running the damn country we don't know anything about this there is

a justification for us doing much more them for no fly zones there is a justification when they blew up a passenger airline over lockerbie killing our people on the ground and killing people for america there was a justification to do what i suspect russia might have done under the same circumstances which you said right we're coming in we're taking you out we're bombing the hell out of the place and then there will be a change of regime and that would be more justifiable than this but libyan rebels did offer off to intervene they also may say to intervene do we not that full have a duty to go in and help the mouse now we don't want you to do we owe to a saw aid in a revolution who is trying to grab power to decide what the outcome of that war is going to be i say we have no duty while we are out there wandering around the desert there was a justification it was lockerbie there's no justification i prefer the russian position i prefer the chinese position i prefer the german position all of which is

the siamese we wish you well away not firing any guns away not sending in any planes what now that they see you with a nation that we put out and need to libyans to what could essentially be a bloody civil war it is a bloody civil war that's what happens in civil wars that isn't the point the reason that you have the wood war involved in civil war is it's not called civil negotiation it is a fight and in the end i expect the rebels they will win but they don't need to win risking our blood than our money what if now that the international community has irreparably for them that with him he actually stays in power and yet well first of all i don't care about the international community and secondly they haven't but you know they don't like him but there's lots of people they don't like i mean why they. actually why don't they go in while you were at libya just go down the road a bit to the congo where literally under a thousand people have been wiped out why haven't we gone there why don't we go and

protect the minority tribe in the zimbabwe water after there's a lot of injustice in the world there may be injustice even in this country who knows but the issue is that there is nothing that can be done the international community is a big fat rolls berry and what happens to the politicians is that they look around them so they look at this their ratings in the polls and they say you know wall i'm not doing very well here the people who vote for me think i'm an idiot they're going to charge me you know what they want to do wander around north africa wander around the middle east why do we go into saudi arabia where they've banned march is the king as announce there will be severe repercussions for demonstrations and in the east they started firing everybody why don't we go into the main why don't we go in everywhere what's your answer to all these questions why don't we go and see them and why don't we go into syria because there's nothing to do with us we have neither the power of the firepower nor the will nor will as we learned from iraq

where one hundred and eighty of. good people died and probably forty billion forty or fifty billion quid went out of our coffers which we could possibly even for that profit was up but it has nothing to do with us things take time and yet we have still going into libya which by you will not take has nothing to do with us is because we could have been open about gadhafi you know what he is where war and nation trying to relive the old days of the empire cameron keep on shouting out where of all the pink bits gone you know strolling around the middle east you know without a sight and without an exit plan we now have to go into these places we have no idea how to get out u.k. institutions played a big role in rehabilitating the gadhafi regime not to say don't go and say that they go said spin in that label media now that the media has. turned on him again how important is it for legitimizing an intervention like this and indeed regime change will be i think we should divide the up into two points first of all

the governments whoever they are in this been going on there for forty odd years we have been licking gadhafi is backside now for four decades whether we supply arms to them or we embrace them like that disgusting piece of work. but actually these people that you know at the same time politicians move either way so want to have we're kissing gadhafi backside and now we're trying to kick it it's ridiculous so the media do have a role and the role of the media is to expose that we are trading with dictators now so what does the government say they say we have to deal with the reality the political reality we have to we have to trade with these people and then somebody wakes up a circle to the world so trading with this bomb a mistake. it is pathetic absolutely pathetic but at the same

time every so often the government changes power and when the government changes for how they view changes power so there's no consistency to my mind actually the media have been pretty good they've been pretty good the problem we face now is we're now at war with people and we don't want so we actually have to support our troops we don't have to support ideas like cameron got nothing else to do called decide whether we should be wandering around all spittle in the u.k. or should be wandering around the battlefields of of the middle east but we have to have to support our troops so the media gets caught in a difficult position its troops are its readers and of the center of our world. the government they're idiots and the libyan regime a disgusting so the media gets caught in a very difficult area and you were the most notorious editor of the u.k.'s most notorious tabloid very kind of you to put it why do you make that so that it with

tabloid culture essentially that made was like this easier to sell and popularize with the british public. i except the first bit of taurus and i accept the the sun did spectacularly undermine excellent editorship i think though that they didn't actually make any difference to government policy i mean you know. the issue about the media is it's like the sea it's always with us you simply got to put up with it if you're a policymaker and all right there will be a lot of aggravation about libya now i mean it started off all right we thought we were going to blow it blow them all out of the water we'd all be home for having having a cup of tea at the ritz bar past four so the nightmare is is is still to be faced in my view but i don't think it's fair to blame the media for it i mean i'm personally massively hostile to the libyan infraction mainly because i saw

wired and in iraq these things take peculiar that which you can't really work out intellectually nor guess. nevertheless. you know i'm very much in favor of our soldiers and so you get toward a but the media restrung go i think you're right about that that the media stronger because of what happened in iraq i mean the trouble was that a million people marched against the iraq war blair blair was not telling his cabinet and the things will be revealed now because he was scared they were going to leak so basically they were deciding it as though you and i were having a nice chat to another glass of so when you said oh yes it would be what you think given the office he was is a bit of a go yes good idea tom and then they went in right so the million were ignored people say that the government various governments learn nothing from the iraq and afghanistan but do you think what in fact what who learnt was how to sell another military intervention no absolutely the issue is quite clear. we didn't want iraq

it was lumbered on us by a vain glorious prime minister. cameron is now wandering around in the desert of to brook trying to work out how to get out he would look in the audio to the end of all this but the but the underlying issue is with libya there have been no deaths on our side just why if crashed and god forbid we lose ten people all all by the way they use those heat seeking missiles which you can basically just walk in and according to today's papers. if that happened we saw it being blown out of the sky don't even think about it so the issue is we haven't dropped any blood yeah we've dropped tens of millions of pounds which we haven't gotten but not one single one of the people is has died where that happens the game and the p.r. game will change politically what does someone like david cameron gain from waging

a war in africa a military of what cameron saw what was in it for him or for a country he's a pro for he is unfortunately a professional bleeding. and so he's one of those guys who rush around endlessly he's a total political animal by the way rush around endlessly saying something must be done the answer is something mustn't be done this like when you're about to send off a really stinking is. on the night before to your boss right. don't send that a mile go to bed wake up in the morning reread it and decide whether it was a good idea or not cameron hasn't got that ability basically i think he's gone mad he's gone mad very early as i've been in power yeah i mean is he gonna be as long as blair blair was such a follow up at the end of it all. my suspicion is that the pressure is just driven in kelvin mackenzie thank you very much.

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a green light to use tough tactics against rioters of violence spread throughout the u.k. government special social policies are playing for britain's worst disorder in the . america's financial woes could see its crown as the world's top economic kaname past china in less than four years investors are expected to more often now to asian markets to escape economic turmoil as the us in the us and europe. and those russian officials turn a blind eye to complaints about. the public knowledge of the road vigilante crackdown on sexual predators. being too soft and failure to keep the threat from the country's place. to play the sport or union so you're going to. get those words but i can introduce you the verdict for russians footballers tonight seems to be good but. haven't you hit the nail on the head dominated against serbia but really you've got to score more than one goal when you lead from start to finish good win

though we will have a goal in just a second just the rest of the wednesday night sport. always great to have you with us christie sports today plenty ahead over the next ten minutes including. back to winning ways with the latest euro twenty twelve qualifiers kicking off a number of months time russia record their first victory since june beating serbia . a net loss two time defending champion andy murray crushes out of the color that monster's in his opening match against kevin anderson. this is a bird is a playing no it is blue tie taking off in the russian capital as well for the second time not a lot of stress free flying but thrills and spills. great shots and more all not

just a moment but russia will enter next month's euro two thousand and twelve qualifiers in confident fashion after notching up a win over serbia tonight dick advocate's men seeing off the visitors by one goal to nil pavol pulled them on making all the difference eight minutes after the break their stuff forward mopping up at home on public cenk his initial strike. slippery surface of the locomotive stadium not making it easy for either side to play attractive football took out the catch charges martic on macedonia on the republic of ireland in crunch european qualifiers the start of next. year. the majority of the players from seven european clubs. who. practice. before the game because most are going. to the domestic game here if get their way samuel eto will become the highest paid player

in the world the russian premier league side saying they'll pay the cameroonian a quite extraordinary five hundred and. eighty thousand dollars a week in comparison christiane rinaldo earns a poultry three hundred fifty thousand per week interest should i correct so has been strongly linked with a move for the past number of days and g. believed to be willing to shell out fifty million dollars for the fourth time off computer of the year meanwhile another target shaaban has gone on record to say he won't be leaving arsenal for southern russia despite failing to kneel down a regular spot at the emirates last season our own by billionaire current fund currently have a berth to carlos and yuri jerk off on their booze. brings us to tennis where empty murray's competitive preparations for this month's us open ground slumps are for the blue and choose the knights the scot exiting the rogers cup in montreal following defeat to south african kevin understand in the opening match of his tournament murray's less heralded opponent knocking out the two time defending

champion in st sets dropping just the game in the second six three six one had ended its murray's third consecutive opening run loss in the american masters offense this year following surprise defeat need welds on my army. of always very well here and so the. thing go i started both really really push those and hope we go on the. early. thing going on for richard gask is see if we through to the next stage encounter there after beating german florian meyer ten seeded french par into a six three six two victory to progress into the last thirty two brazilian thomas baluchi. in the women's game kim clijsters had to end her rogers cup run before truly began the world number two suffering a domino injury in her first round plastered judging him toronto the belgian saying

she felt the injury flare up during the warm up but did not stop the twenty eight year old taking the first set six three clusters dawn to on in the second set when she called on a day after being unable to stand the pain looking break then for a chinese qualifier jai with her playing at see if ahead of the u.s. open a third straight title is the prize up for grabs in new york from august twenty. third just now that you can't just getting worse and worse and i tried to not call the trainer out. there so what would you know we can do much more than the tape that you already have. something to just try to relieve the pain then. really help watching all the clues or was that you know the only probably option was to retire we're number sixteen i mean evolve it was and dolman in forming into chinese. six one six one in the streets at school i'm checkoff are if you to be nice about is up next for the serve receiving for a second rogers cup since to talk to us. the world's top golfers are busy

gearing up off the atlanta athletic club for this week's p.g.a. championship tiger woods one of them after arriving in georgia and choose the their four time winner warming up the driving range before teeing off a friend origen wall woods hasn't won the major since the two thousand and eight u.s. open. especially open field it's going to be extremely tough for the thirty five year old who previously taught the sport's rankings for a massive six hundred twenty three weeks current u.s. open champion remark arroyo heads into the final major of the season as bookies favorite. and i felt champions green bay have to defend their preparations ahead of the new american football season subpar training camp sessions among some of the criticism leveled up the holders quarterback are in rogers channeling former n.b.a. star allen iverson with us just what is going on. practice. practice. again. practice is. concerned. you know.

we're just going to clean things up to move. from one hard hitting sport to another where the clock is ticking dollar and ahead of the twenty eleven rugby world cup action kicking off less than a month from now on september ninth the new zealand games on pre-sent a third consecutive final company achieved by one team england but their star man simply having fun is important to. look towards. and it's more. of the world like to be able to enjoy. finally moscow was the place to be this week if you like your sport to come with a few laughs the russian capital playing host to the red bull flugtag event for the

second time in three years robert downey went along to find out a little more. they can barely overcome gravity. it would hardly be safe to call fluke jog which is german flight day actually sport. but it is completely it is creative and it generates a lot of fun with the disciplines presenting there are going machines and putting them through their paces which have to be unsinkable and they're not allowed to have any kind of engine before the answers are judged by the bullring quite curious distance of the flight creativity and showmanship well it's worth mentioning that the last two aspects usually dominate the first one. redbook looked at he the russian capital for the second time during to be an

extremely attractive man from muscovites with nearly one hundred thousand spectators watching the show under the belly it's the very first time with taken pours in the command and i'm just stunned that there are so many spectators there is such a lot of enthusiasm we didn't expect it to be so exciting it's been an awesome experience. he's only part of the action here as some followers of looked out have plenty of motivation well for others it's a way of life but we do care about the result if we fail to take first place we will try again next time otherwise we'll just be resting on our laurels. we've met so many puta full intelligent and interesting people here that's why we're going to take part in fluke document every single yeah that's for sure. when it comes to flicked a perfectly the white one nation has no limits some strive just for the feeling of

taking. do their best. with busier gratian but this time around pretty distance lips are not usually known to fly but do seem to be boosted by barrels of beer. these would bring in victory to the feasting team of the sultan russian city over stuff. we were aiming to surprise both the spectators and our competitors and of course all those who supported us even damaged our award by holding it too tight. and finally regarding the once boring component of the event the furthest distance flown was achieved by the team from. their self-made airplane flight. nineteen mirrors the world record is a considerably longer sixty three meters. r.t. . week had by all out of training and along the way well that is

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