tv [untitled] August 10, 2011 10:30pm-11:00pm EDT
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all right it's time for you said it i read it right take time to respond to my brilliance and engaging viewer comments on facebook twitter and you tube because when you've got something to say i listen now first i want to respond to christina robinette who commented on our interview with jeff kaye on water torture she said on facebook on criminals start using euphemisms for harang this act that shows a whole new life a lot we take granted for. rather than our everyday lives while spawning dangerous
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levels of complacency i have to agree with her here as jeff pointed out in our interview the entire media simply takes the government's word as truth they like donald rumsfeld come out and say that there was no waterboarding to give and then even bother to question him they let him get off the hook on a technicality or as christine says a euphemism calling it water treatment doesn't really make it all that different from waterboarding both are torture plain and simple and somebody should have called donald rumsfeld donald rumsfeld on that one it's time for the media to step out into the sunlight realize that the us government lies to them from time to time i know it's earth shattering but it's true and i want to respond to a viewer who commented on our story about a teenage boy who was tasered that sunshine's that on you tube these days are should be illegal or at least treat of this deadly weapon this kid wasn't even armed this is out of control and unacceptable and i agree wholeheartedly it is long overdue that we all acknowledge that tasers are believed all period they have killed a lot of people they will continue to kill unless police departments stop treating
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them as the easiest way to subdue citizens i don't think that it's too much to ask of police to use the extensive training that they have received paid for by the taxpayer to actually subdue someone who they feel is a threat not automatically take out their taser we're not all criminals we don't all deserve to be treated as such a manufacturer of the tasers taser international is also to play they continue to market their products as non-lethal even though it's responsible for more than three hundred forty taser jetson's can thousand and one so they need to own up to the consequences of taser use start telling police departments the truth tasers can kill and lastly in response to my interview with a cast member of the new show russian dolls a wall high tweeted well lower half show and nice to you can make cameos on the new russian dolls show they're the two hottest russian american dolls i know and i'm sorry to say that still waiting for my invite to appear on russian dolls maybe just got lost in the mail and i think they've already. ranting and i will be back with
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more next week. as. the light will come down. some last few carriers will be singing. well today there's a glimmer of hope coming out of california when it comes to privacy see the d.n.a. act a proc sixty nine has been a contentious issue in the state despite the fact it was a successful ballot measure back in two thousand and four and the legislation said that every adult arrested not convicted just arrested on a felony charge would have to submit a d.n.a. sample so as of today over a million samples have been collected and the idea is to create a d.n.a. database for the state of california to help police departments but thankfully privacy advocates spoke out against the law saying that it's not right you connect or collect their genetic information if you're not convicted of a crime that's a violation of your fourth amendment rights just because you're arrested doesn't mean that you have actually done something wrong whatever happened to the whole
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innocent until proven guilty thing or at least in this case it isn't until your d.n.a. will be entered into a california state database and when it finally reached the first district court of appeals sixty nine was ruled to be unconstitutional the court wrote what the d.n.a. act authorizes is the warrantless and suspicious search of individuals before you dishful determination of probable cause to believe that they have committed a crime for evidence of crime unrelated to that for which they have been arrested i agree with the judge here but let's look at how this legislation got to where it is today just like any other contentious issue that elicits a very strong emotional response from voters there is a lot of money thrown behind both sides of the d.n.a. act and california is a great example of how this process works take prop sixty six is bills an amendment to the current three strikes law which was also passed through a ballot measure and it said that anyone who commits three crimes must have a third felony charge be a special violent or serious crime in order to mandate a twenty five years to life sentence a voter's probably have their own opinions on this issue especially since the three
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strikes law was used widely as a sweeping bail here but when the ads about prop sixty six came out with a very convincing celebrity scaremongering against it surely he was opinions were swayed. on the proposition sixty six twenty six thousand dangerous criminals will be released from prison child molesters rapists murderers keep them off the streets and out of your neighborhood and sixty six. yeah just grab the governator throw in a few lines all rapists and murderers out on the streets and it's really easy to see that he's encouraged it contributed to prop sixty six not passing around but one of the most popular pieces of legislation this decade prop eight which was designed to keep marriage between a man and a woman. proposition eight feels there's a whole bunch of consequences did you know the church is there in their facilities for marriages could be forced to out seem sex marriage ceremonies on their properties if proposition eight fails religious adoption agencies maybe for six
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weeks children in same sex marriages were just continue providing adoption services all together nearly all have are schools in california provide education about health and sexuality if prop eight feels children will be trying it near just the party a and party b. regard this as a gender vote yes on proposition eight. see what i mean we all know the power of advertising and when lobbying groups take to the media to get their message across using lies and half truths the results speak for themselves on the ballot passing gay marriage was not allowed in california thanks to the scaremongering so let's shift our focus back to prop sixty nine and the d.n.a. at this like the fact that there is support for collecting d.n.a. from arrestees there is a reason that we have courts to so issues of our most basic rights in an impartial forum without millions of dollars poured into the decision so sometimes it's best not to let the public sorry i mean a lot of years decide on social issues because of the first district court of
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appeals to step in and stand up for privacy i see that as a true believer of hope. now if you become a member of a social network you have to use your real name that's a facebook the side of a couple years ago and that's what google plus has made their new policy as well and it's sort of a fierce debate about the use of pseudonyms the concept of anonymity on the web and whether you should expect it to courting to the tech giants should it in fact randi zuckerberg the former facebook marketing director and sister of mark zuckerberg said the following she said i think anonymity on the internet has to go away people behave a lot better when they don't have their real names doubt i think people hide behind anonymity and they can feel like they can say whatever they want behind closed doors but there are a lot of people fighting back against this statement now a new website is dedicated to the cause of anonymity called my name is me so joining me to discuss this is able galloper an activist with the electronic frontier foundation if i want to thank you so much for joining us and if you can
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first start by describing what this web site is all about my name is me as a direct response to google plus and what are you planning on doing with it. my name is me is in fact made up mostly of google plus users who are very interested in making sure that google plus google understands that google plus users want the freedom to use their own names on social media networks. and what are you planning on doing with this site i mean do you think that you might actually convince google nonce if you would because their numbers are still skyrocketing people are joining in droves. well what's particularly interesting about local is doing right now is that google plus as a state is not yet open to everyone they're still in what they call an open beta where they are inviting a limited number of people to come to the site and are actively soliciting our opinions about what the site should look like and in that interest people who
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disagree with google plus his real name calls the want to let google know this is not how their shapes should go forward when they find it launches all right so now it's get to really you know what you think is the core of this debate i read back over randi zuckerberg question things that people might hide behind their identities if they have the possibility of anonymity but is that necessarily always a bad thing do some people actually need to hide absolutely there are people who need to hide when they're speaking out online there are many groups all over the world who have traditionally used anonymous speech in order to make their views known most importantly marginalized people are those are the people who need the protections the most people who are hearing abuse people who are whistleblowers people who are worried about being tracked down and it really is not just for
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trolls anonymity is one of the key features of activism online. now i want to know if you agree with something that alexis magical wrote over the atlanta take which i thought was kind of interesting as he says this really is revolutionizing the way that we lead our lives because there's a huge difference between what's being expected online versus but might be except i expected in normal life you're prigs sample you can walk down the sidewalk and you can scream down with the government and still nobody's really going to know who you are they might know you were wearing what you look like but now if you want to say anything on the internet then it will could always come back to haunt you and they could find out everything about you so is this completely different to you from the way a normal life is lived offline this is very much in love with it but life is lived offline and it's on like the way that life was lived online until very recently when the advent of facebook and facebook's insistence on real name policy for its
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users so you know i mean to me you know and then you do you burn entirely standard online until you spoke came along and all that we're asking google to do is to stay in line with those historical standards so what is it exactly that's in facebook or google's interest here just so they can get more people's names and sell those names that information through to advertisers make more money. it is absolutely all about advertising. both google and facebook understand that people's real means are worth money to advertisers it allows advertisers to link that information back to your credit data and gives them a much broader picture of who you are if all they have is a pseudonym they have all kinds of very interesting web site traffic but they cannot link it back to your real identity and that is why real names are social networks now i'm just curious too do you think i mean the so why when facebook came out with this right about four years ago they decided also to make
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people have to use their real names i feel like there wasn't as much of an uproar and so why is there one now with google plus is it because different people we have more of a techie crowd that's actually been the first ones to start using it well there are a couple of different reasons but first is that google is actively soliciting our input they want to know what we want this site to look like and that's certainly something that facebook did not do its early days of furthermore facebook was really a service from the very beginning it was based around sort of real identity use of college students often college students who went to the same college and that's really what helped set those norms and so people understood what was expected of them when they went into these. thank you for joining us and you know we'll see if google actually listens to what you guys say there are a lot of other people who are joining this web site my name is me personally i also think that you should be able to retain their money on the web thanks. thank you.
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now sort of comes a night of the fighter jets millions of your tax dollars and the list bureaucrats as three things make up and i still find a war and as of tonight happy hour are your coworkers killing you plus that marriage is more like water and not like beer and then explain that one and it's up . into little or no with the mechanisms to do the work to bring justice or accountability . i have every right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i pay taxes. but i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something
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else you hear see some other part of it and realize that everything is ok if you don't i'm trying hard luck comes a big fish. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right now. i think the bombing even one well. we have the government says libya keep him safe get ready because their freedom.
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hard time for tonight's tool time award and tonight it goes to the pentagon if you watch our show before you know that we take issue with the insane amount of money at the pentagon spends on defense and less wars recently we've also been following with story of the f. twenty two an f. thirty five fighter jets are not the million but the two the planes are currently
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ground it as an all of the planes are not working the whole fleet so what's the big deal you ask so happens well you see actually according to wire the entire joint strike force drinks right or excuse me joint strike force problem has cost the american taxpayers a three hundred eighty billion dollars and rising and with all the f. twenty two an f. thirty five grounded by means that the u.s. air force colonel has zero stealth fighters in the air after spending hundreds of billions dollars on that so that twenty two has been grounded over a possible all the oxygen system after they found anti-freeze and oil in the blood of pilots which apparently caused the pilots to act drunk while flying a jet that's just what you want right a drunk pilot in a plane that's bassin carrying weapons and the f. thirty five is part because of a valve problem so with all the problems surrounding these jets we think the pentagon would think twice before ordering any more of them but that he would be wrong because he the pentagon is simply enslaved to the military desperate complex here in the u.s. on their part. defense website there's
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a press release that reads lockheed martin core lockheed martin aeronautical company port with texas is being awarded a five hundred and thirty five million dollar advance acquisition contract to provide a long lead parts and components required for the manufacture of thirty eight low rate initial production f. thirty five lightning two joint strike fighter aircraft for the air force that's right you heard me correctly the pentagon just spent another five hundred thirty five million dollars to buy thirty eight more f. thirty five fighter jets this week is anybody at the d.o.t. even thinking the planes are grounded now and you want to run out and buy a few more why the pentagon do something so stupid and maybe they were inspired by this. i. i i.
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i don't know lockheed martin give make all the slick ads of flying jets and rock music that they want but it doesn't hide the fact that their jets are all currently grounded because of technical problems after technical problems now earlier in the show we discussed the new super committee formed by congress here in washington to cut the deficit by what he's watching i think we just found five hundred thirty five million dollars worth of cuts that you can make over the pentagon for ordering thirty eight more of f. thirty five fighter jets we're giving tonight's tools on board to the pentagon. our guys time for happy hour this evening and joining me tonight as arch of course on it lauren lyster and jake brewer founder of realist idealist labs thanks for joining me guys pleasure lowenstein me let me tell you about
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a little story that's going on in california the california department of corrections the realty of rehabilitation is actually convince facebook to take down the profile pages of prisoners which you might think like that seems kind of screwed up why would they do that and that's because in the past they've had a little problem with certain prisoners posting certain photos of their face but take a look. that's also where i'm serving a thirty year prison sentence for murdering an oklahoma sheriff finds a way to post some surprising photos on facebook fox twenty three news dog pictures of thirty two year old justin walker posing in his person so. they do parallel either. too many people like that with that guy was just one of the examples as well posting pictures of kind of partying maybe it's not going to join in. you know for football it was about one pair part about this story though is that the press releases that went on even the local news reports focused on the
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fact that it is a federal offense to have a cell phone in the jail so they didn't mention the bong or the knife or any of the things in the photos they just said you know it is it legal to have a cellphone how little i mean i would still feel that i'm greatly i can't we've been doing stories about prison strikes where all they can get after doing a hunger strike is some cold weather caps and wall calendars and they're getting in there and they're putting the pictures on facebook i mean i was on a body and got under protest to get out of prison i was at that point you think or if you can get bogged in there you probably can also is something you know clearly the guards here john and i have a long on the prize and we should make too much light of this issue because it doesn't agree with the massive prison population in california and the supreme court also ruled the conditions there inhumane but this one is just a well that's just super verisign at least some guys are doing a little better with a humane conditions they're a little more medicated but is only in for thirty years of good behavior will be
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out in like six months i think that's right. ok we want to the next one you know some office environments are better than others and some are a little worse than others and so i think we've all really enjoyed watching this particular show that might explain how some of the workers. in the hospital out were samples but imo. sometimes motives to be so. casual day. oh my gosh they're actually going to we're going to see. that we just use that clip because we know players i do you can't replace that they like that we're going to do it but it reality there is an actual study that just came out and basically told you that your coworkers might be killing you they spent something like twenty years conducting a study and they found that those people who felt like they had less emotional support or no emotional support in the workplace were two point four times as
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likely to die during the course of that study compared to those who had stronger bonds with their peers at work than this this year it didn't and seventeen upside i'm sorry. it's not i think the upside is that if you have a good work environment then you're happier and you're more likely to live longer so if you're yeah i write a good. one let me let all of you who are under it is wonderful live through this has been really bad for the workplace i think because they also found that basically by sitting all the time you would die faster yes or no your colleagues are killing you your chair is killing you also here in d.c. i'm pretty sure that the complete culture on alcohol which i mean none of us have anything going around that you know i'm pretty sure just since being in d.c. i've lost at least ten years just in five years of actually living here so hard to believe unfortunately you know you just can't win because that's the you can't get a job unemployment is a huge problem then you get a job actually just killing you slowly like will. happen to you broken.
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so we were speaking of presidential elections earlier obviously evans thank crazier i was like i said i saw her standing obsession with i loved it as a matter of south america but let's talk about some of the candidates here rick santorum does not believe in gay marriage but this is the way that he was trying to explain to people like he doesn't believe in gay marriage which doesn't really make a whole lot of sense to me but you take a look and decide. marriage is what marriage is marriage existed before there was a government like you know and you know this and saying this class of water is a glass of beer well you can call it a glass of beer but it's not a glass of beer it's less a war and water is what water is marriage is what marriage is. i don't i really i don't understand at all i applaud him for trying to you know make an analogy that people can understand but it just has so much room for interpretation and for expanding upon i mean like water is water but you can put crystal light in
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it you can put kool-aid in it you can change it you know it's not always water doesn't always need to be water which is a great analogy for by you to have gay marriage else wringing my hands in many different many different colors and flavors yeah and i think someone should tell rick that you can call kind of discriminatory bigoted ideology you know rational analogy but it still doesn't change the fact that it's discrimination and bigoted ideology and that's all he's going to the table here and bringing with it really really bad and i'm going to go to work you know and he's seventy does commercials about the the light beer that's just. not masculine and so i think that you could also just dispute that some beer actually is water i'm saying with right now that's really i mean that's the moral of this story of course is those great commercials when you know they go for a long run and they give back and then they have a beer you know this is your heart is rationed i think that's really the direction he must mean that that's what i call college are you going. to know let's run
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through one of the last what this person that i really really really hope that he doesn't run for president or i hope he does because he's crazy and hopefully people don't vote for him i don't know he's been talking about it for a long time and he's back talking about it again. well i might want to run for president i'm looking at this i have been for quite some time and you know our foreign adversaries are not waiting for us to get our economic house in order terrorism the threat of nuclear proliferation sure belligerent russian attitudes and others are all out there and they threaten the economic recovery when you're ready to declare we've got you know they're. already saying you know i honestly can't decide what would be i mean michele bachmann is absolutely crazy in many respects but i really think it would be scarier john bolton is actually the president this is the guy who reminds us that we have to bomb iran immediately we only have eight days to bomb iran in the world is going to come to an end and he
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makes these prophecies all the time we would be in a million wars if it was up to john bolton i think of it you're right i know you lie to us about so one thing about jumbled all say that i'm looking forward to is that if he does run it i kind of miss my gravelle from the two thousand and eight race you know just kind of like you need to wacky professor on the side so i think he'd kind of serve their role but the point he's making in his press release about running for president are just so ridiculous he's saying you know obama has a terrible stance on security like the guy who has successfully gotten us out of iraq or when you know drawing down his talk the n.c.a. in afghanistan has killed osama bin laden and we've not been attacked like what's your point here and you know we we don't it's an obama is doing probably what john bolton said three of you say you know this man our war on terror here a number of other countries the republican dream also thus far to disappoint you guys if you want him in the race i think it just says that he said this on our t several months ago i think it's just that this is a very and i know that all of the lines like i run you know the sadness is the
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airtimes every now and then i found out that they are going to get a rap about thanks for joining us if an actual thanks for today and come back tomorrow and it's a whistleblower thomas rate and his lawyer jesselyn radical the on the show to discuss their take on the obama administration's war on leakers i mean time to get the band the lowest on facebook and follow us on twitter and coming up next he's out of the first. wealthy british style. markets why not come to. find out what's really happening to the global economy with much stronger for
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