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now i hear it is insulting to the u.k.'s reeling from several nights of pales in volatile the streets as the pm refuses to rule out the support of convicts meanwhile for it and also if the government will mend breaches of the social system playing the instigating breakfast. it's rather proves the building of one thousand six hundred settlements in the occupied palestinian territories called this is weeks before palestinian authorities are expected saul's the united nations for
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recognition of their state. as experts predicts the further decline of the us economy average americans fear society will share a similar fate the rising concern is a force in song to take radical measures to survive a future for doubt. and it on easy settles in the course of recent ethnic clashes are the consequences of. saving lives and the constant climate temptation on their own mouths. on september a russian airliner cream managed to land in a remote russian region despite engine failure at ten thousand misses next we talk to the plane's crew who's lying saving her roic so personally recognized by the president.
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well you can. read you the latest in science technology from around the world. we've got the future covered. hello again and welcome to spotlight the interview on r.t.i. malbrunot and today we will hear a miraculous crash landing starting. in september a russian tupolev one fifty four aircraft with failed flight control navigation radio communication systems made an emergency landing at the band an airstrip in the middle of the thai got its crew managed to save all the seventy two passengers on board president medvedev has all of the far less as heroes of russia and decorated the other crew members with the order of courage today and spotlight they
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will tell us the dramatic story in details here are the captain of the aircraft crew and the navigator you get in there myself and surrogate for life. you going in the high school has been flying the well known route between moscow and this mall town in russia for several years but during one plot an unexpected electricity supply failure put everyone aboard on the edge of survival the team guided by captain you gain advice all mannish what seemed impossible they landed the plane nominal thought it airfield. to give them a life as a navigator the ice of the whole crew no surprise then that it was he who first spotted the abandoned airstrip lost in the taiga. the president decorated that scene was stated words the captain became fiero fresh in the navigator a member of the guards.
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gainey hotel gate thanks so much for coming to our program and congratulations on your well deserved awards thank you. all your friends and relatives most of us journalists when you were landing that airplane did you feel really scared you're quite experienced people. nevertheless what were you afraid. i was scared at one point only. scared but it felt as if something was missing you know russians. the moment the few low lights went on the countdown the camera. after that moment we were told we couldn't carry on the flight as we had intended earlier. on that moment we had to make an urgent decision so you were going to fly somewhere well let's go back to feeling afraid a selfie or a couple of times but it got suppressed immediately you know when an individual is
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busy doing things his fear gets suppressed i had of the kind of fear that constrains one's notions and limbs but that's not what we felt you just have to overcome it as we were busy piloting this fear was receding i felt really scared only once when we landed and ran into the forest and you know when it will get to that level of that's when i felt somewhat scared but not while still in the air. right here not accustomed to flying through forests. leave vance were unfolding as follows. it was taking place as usual at the altitude of ten thousand six hundred meters we made a trip from moscow to pull out an a and we were. on our way back from us nothing indicated what was going to happen so when we have mind started failing gradually i first we decided to descend to a certain altitude and to continue the flight as it was all cloudy below the plane
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it was so our intention at first was to reach a cloudless area for better visibility. to determine our exact location in your position and decide whether we should head for the nearest airport that we don't know but things changed when the fuel low light went on as a gay said so we realized we had only thirteen minutes left to fly which authority then would run out of fuel and engines would stop and that would be it initially so we had no other option but to get under the clouds so we can see terrain and start looking for a landing place. now let's take a look at how today's guests worked that miracle landing a plane with failed flight control here's this report from spotlights elana to me the. tupolev airline i would eighty one people on board was on
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its way from russia's far east to moscow cruising at thirty thousand feet its electrical system failed policy to do some quick thinking and find somewhere to land in the vastness of the russian wilderness as it descended there was no way to slow it down using the brakes and the well tricity of the flight controls it to that no way due to over hound and the rescuers lead they saw an abandoned felled with a concrete tron way that had been used by how the corrupters too short for be a liner it was their only chance and they too could land in this town and the planes were no fan of the runway into the poorest cutting down trees as it slowed it finally came to stop when the wind in gear but down in morn. none of the seventy two passengers and nine crew members were hurt in the question landing. what was the response of the pilot cabin staff when the flight engineer reported that the
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equipment failed he said that it started failing gradually or didn't fail immediately. this was before the flight engineer made his first report but with the latest war you know that aircraft would go wide levels in the automatic mode the auto pilot is going to syria and pilots monitor the process of those he's so the first thing that happened was the autopilot turning off and andre and i so wished to manual control still won it with and then the flight engineer began reporting that equipment started failing because that's when everything began. did you eventually realize what happens i think something went wrong with the battery that's according to the commission. learns about it only when do you know now though yes we do could you tell us about it two other audience know what caused the entire electric system of an aircraft to fail
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according to preliminary conclusion of the state commission the airplanes first and second batteries experienced thermal runaway that was the bra viewers we need to mention that there are four batteries on the plane the first and second battery experienced a thermal runaway which are difficult as for what it is sort of the quickness of this proses hasn't been much researched by science but all car owners know what world batteries are going to. whether that's when all of a sudden the bench or is temperature jumps up and the battery goes out of water because that is liquid vapors in a car this process isn't dangerous you just store stock orating and that's it was almost like when thermal runaway happens. in a plane it produces very dangerous a crude fumes. to contact anyone on the ground when the plane ran out of curiosity so to say was there any way to get in touch
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with the ground. we had an emergency radio already fifty five was it working it was working so that the ground search service would locate us landing but that's what it's intended for the user to contact grounds it works as a beacon only on its own helicopters can take the bearings and locate it. can you use your cell phone we'll make calls from our cell phones a million that wasn't ground but it didn't work in the air or right there on three cells in the air but the cell phone started working at about one kilometer above ground maybe. it was also asked to pick up a phone and make a call. accordingly you didn't have any communication with the airfield here when she landed on they just saw you we had no communication period no channels but they saw you and realized you were going to land we were the ones who saw and realized that we were go into lands what about them there are no ground services in that
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airport. was there. of was there a new chief right the air force chief any source and the. let's go back to the thermal runaway issue just how likely are such things to occur here i've never heard about it happening so unexpectedly and with such serious consequences does this mean it can happen again. yes it can happen and you know once again let me stress that this pros is that it hasn't been properly researched with thermal runaway can be gradual or sudden or wavelike which is related to temperature rise inside the battery. could you explain about this a few low lights. to call for the. quite a lot of you fuel tanks so the light went on but you knew you had to know if you look. well let me remind you that our rectifies. the
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first and second batteries failed when it will become a lot of new and because of their failure there wasn't enough power to enable fuel pumps to transfer fuel from wing tanks to the supply tank that feeds the engines. thus the pumps stopped and the supply tank palm's mechanically driven they only work when engines work. comparing to cars again you have gas and a carburator only exactly and there wasn't much gas there either so gay tell something so your plane ran out of curiosity even though the engine was still running how did you steer then when all the wing flaps and so on are power operated or are the manual control routes as well. as a good law i guess it could be possible but the thing is that engines were running and plane was a billion to manual control and steering at that point nothing really terrible was
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happening yet engines were running and the plane was under control even though there was no electricity and no radio control and numerous devices including old you'd gorge were out of order and when the fuel the light went on when we reached the cloud free area and spotted that concrete runway at that point we had to slow down by gauging wing flaps and slats. and that didn't happen neither in automatic nor in manual mode i mean all we could do was extend landing gear by means of the second their emergency hydraulic system the entire flight took place with clean wings and at high speed and you landed with clean wings to exactly that's why it was so difficult that was quite a risky trick well we had no other options. over you had tanks full of you they were half fool actually say even he never saw all of the captain of the two police one fifty four which made
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a crash landing in the common probably tempered and navigators of that flight city and alive is also in our studio spotlight will be back shortly after we take a break so stay with us we'll continue in less than a minute. in the czech republic is available in a hotel a serious central hotel prim a very nice and most regal full stop by you to which i am a taste in bosnia and herzegovina available in. the children of each hotel cubing at you know to put you know hotel period of time at coachella kildare a boutique hotel and you like toast. in serbia multis available in most clifton hyatt regency. wealthy british style sign. the
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time to. market. can. find out what's really happening to the global economy with much cause or for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune into khan's report. welcome back to the spotlight i'm just a little more into that my guests in the studio today are you beginning the very soul of here a russia and the cat of the top live one fifty four which made a crash landing in the common republican september and also
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a fright night again that hour that aircraft city who was awarded order of courage . so again my question is to you because you're getting has explained several times that's. what you managed to descend through the clouds and were already able to find your bearings by sights. can you call it log that there was no low cloud cover so that you could navigate your. playing with the map and by terrain sites i mean. there were many factors that helped us to land it was daytime last night because there were no mountains. which we had just passed northern europe you see that little distance between the land and the lower cloud ash along the six hundred meters. so that's how we pierce the clouds and started looking for a place to land. there was a weekend headlock and that was part of the river spit ceased. initially
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plan to run for the spit because we didn't see any runways around. but as we began heading for it's like. oh i must add this. in our lending we were told by the locals that this plane has been used as a dirty air filled as well on the ticket. and even that was fortunate for us. so as we headed for the spit we sighted that village called. even more human and i suggest that the crew that we are somewhat to the right so that the villagers might see us and quickly call rescue services to help out passengers could if they felt like it was told. but as the guys got down to piloting the plane. i was turning my head left and right but that is what you would only all chance that something else might turn out. and then i clearly saw a runway. and then you saw the runway it was straight and even as
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a road. like a real highway it was a cousin that i got in the forest next to the village it is just an amazing country it was the soviet union how many enfield have built. thank god for the airfield chief had been looking after their own way all the time clear and that incidentally do you know that a hero of the age your hero rush him again and tell the boys. says the same thing he said in one of his interviews that the pilots would have been unable to save the passengers had it not been for the man who hadn't let anyone wound up all the salvias runway you called him a real officer and a real patriot do you agree. that heels who deserves to be decorated so yes in fact in essence all those years he performed his duty like you did although no one seemed to need him to do the outs but it came in handy after all. in fact i believe that it is he who is the real hero because he was quite free not to look after that
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congress street at all which because after in ninety ninety seven the local airlines stopped flying their smaller craft like an twenty four and yak forty helicopter pad was organized on that runway where medical helicopters touched down from time to time and that man saw it as a point of warning to maintain the runway in order he's a real every eight he went on tending the runway he didn't let anyone to use it for outside purposes now the mushroom hunters vehicles were allowed in nor any other heavy equipment business people that caught timber in that area for us but to china all for the good money to be permitted to stockpile timbered on the runway extern money yes but he declined the offer as it is sad the street should stay free in case an aircraft game was needed again and so it was. the story of
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some glass of water that you used in order to better pilot your plane we were talking about vehicles but personally i heard the glass of water pail in connection with a rolls royce when you buy a rolls royce you place a glass of water inside and drive the car the eighty mph over the water isn't skilled it means the assembly is good for. pretty much the same with their craft. there shouldn't be any spilled water. in fact the glass of water was still standing when i landed. in fact years ago as a water. in fact we could show if we had a full glass of water. you have a level surface and you put a glass of water on it the water spills out when you tilt the plane to one side or another water in a glass tilts as well so you use it to find the horizon. we use that as a horizon indicator as we were piercing clouds not landing. let me explain
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something people in journalists ask many questions and i'd like to explain it once again no one landed a plane with the help of that glass of water that was we didn't look at it while we were in the air it all began as we started climbing down the flying engineer put down that glass and it came to my head how thoughtful it was of him to offer a drink of water to the crew but then i recalled that it was an old trick from an era when crowd had no horizon indicators if you were in the clouds a glass of water was used in order to prevent your craft from turning over in the air and to keep it on an even kneel. but none of us really looked at the glass because the laws of physics are different and so on big more nail line is flying at high speeds. you mean centrifugal forces in operation yes the only thing as again use that is that an indicator of a soft unsuccessful landing was the fact that the water was still firmly in his
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receptacle as the plane touched down on that runway and after a start so how many attempts did it take you to land the plane used for attempts and were you circling on purpose in order to better see where you were going to land or was it because your first attempts failed someone actually as i sent the mechanisms were not working and the speed was high with. this type of plane cannot land at such a high speed. because well how much did it exceed the speed needed for landing by a hundred was your landing speed two hundred seventy kilometers per hour what was your landing speeded up moment four hundred and later three hundred eighty this is why it was a visual flight and a visual maneuver during our first and second attempts we just failed to fit in into the runway alignment during the third attempt we decided would fly over the runway and see whether it was free mechanical comm pass it was still operational and we marked a tentative landing course which we saw on the street was clear and braced up for
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the touchdown on the fourth attempt was a success through so tell me can you say you were lucky to be flying that specific model lity you won five four is there anything about this design that helped you land it successfully someone i'd like to say once again that this particular plane saved lives with this specific plane yes precisely this model it's very reliable obsolete cold is it. well the smart plan stop turning out these i crafts as late as two thousand and eight yes it's not fleet model but it's some thirty years old isn't it yes its first regular flight took place in one thousand nine hundred ninety two forty years yeah forty years to is just obsolete it has three engines it consumes more fuel than foreign made aircraft but the plane is highly reliable situations like the one we've faced
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because there really nothing like this is going to happen any more but it has some very sturdy shafts is nothing in the running here broke no nothing in a landing gear broke then you know nothing broke as we plough through the woods it's a reliable plane and if you act with determination it follows your orders very well . like you to come in on the latest tragic air accident involving a polish plane that crashed. surely you've heard about it and read a lot about it with as you see it what prevented the pows crew from making a safe landing at that time. it seems to me the crew was nervous because the entire government and the country's president were on board the plane. they should have done was to avoid landing on back particular affeldt. so you should have diverted they should have taken the risk
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better to land on a reserve airfield and save lives very interesting all the mechanisms were operative the plane had been checked and tested time and again by contrast none of your back and his hands were functioning but you enjoyed good visibility while they were in the fog where their flight conditions worse than yours even with the functioning instruments sure they had formed all around but the instruments were in good order but they shouldn't have made any landing attempts just to be the instructions they'd say issued hand for reserve airfields you know when i mean is that to land a plane with the electric system being out of order in conditions of clear visibility is easier than to land an operating plane and think fog it depends on how you understand it. better to find a reserve air filters regularly right there are standards of weather requirements and crew preparation which will accrue on a particular working plane in fake fog got killed and killed the passengers even
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though no matter what advances of technology maybe they can replace eighty nine hands yes and in this case it means that the plane was the energized all of the equipment was out of order but all the same the crew end of the plane successfully let's make another comparison as a well known story to last year they landed a plane on the hudson river which situation was more complicated theirs or yours. when you think we were not there i can't say what's your idea about it was better water or forests the mcconnell i think in both situations are very complicated i did my award the captain did there i think he's a great professional musician it's hard to land on the water surface because in case of a swing the plane will break into pieces award shows on one of the wings will be torn off but he had all equipment working fine landed calmly cerebral notable today but the engines did not work or the landing was successful and i admire
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the job he was my last question is will your plane fly again i think that it should slide will you fly again on it. you're not supposed to shoot snow thank you so much good luck thank you for participation thank you thank you very much for being with us and just a reminder that right yes to date where he is getting a very solid hero of russia and captain of the tupolev one fifty four which made a crash landing in the comair public consistent and also the flight of the gator club the same crew so he tell us the was awarded an order of coverage and that's it for now for all of us here will be back with more force than comments are once again going on in and outside national council then they can party and take it.
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