this is r.t. international it's just after nine pm here in moscow six in the evening in london my name is kevin owen and our top story the british prime minister is considering banning rioters from social networks used to walk in eyes elements of the rest david cameron speaking to parliament in the wake of clashes that engulfed the country what started as a peaceful protest against police shooting a man in north london quickly growing scenes of bedlam either bennett reports from london i don't think the closure of social networking sites on the cards just yet but certainly tougher regulations for certain groups of people this was mentioned in parliament by the prime minister earlier today the cobra emergency response committee has been looking at least up regulations they've seen the social media has played a really important part in mobilizing these riots and they're looking at ways to control it and attention banning criminal groups from from using it and actually this is come from the man who only just a few months ago praised the use of social media in mobilizing the masses and

members the public in the rise we saw in the middle east also the group did discuss the potential use of the army if the violence gets out of hand they haven't ruled that out so there is still a potential last resort. in the main so i know before that happens we want police to be tough water cannons are on standby twenty four hours notice and the police can use battens as well now this policing has already been seen in some parts video has surfaced on you see showing police in manchester a couple of nights ago. using this more robust tactic pulling off alleged looters from nearby schools wrestling to them to the ground this is because uproar in social media with a lot of criticism coming in for these tactics in the independent police watchdog has already said it will be launching an investigation into these tactics because in many parts of the country manchester burning in london were very busy working through the night process that one thousand two hundred arrests and among some.

charged already is now eleven year old boy on the streets so the mood there is still anger anger by residents and anger the government for ignoring what they say is the real problem here which is unemployment not enough funds going into facilities for young people and disillusioned we will not put up with this in our country we will not allow a culture of fear to exist on our streets and we will do whatever it takes to restore law and order and rebuild our communities prime minister david cameron talks tough as he answers questions from parliament on how to reform sections of society he's branded sick but seemingly unlike cameron people who live in the country's poorest communities still based on rest coming exacerbated by government policy i think that certain things that we had like swimming used to be feeds the fact that. i think it gave a place for children to go and cuts and stuff like that don't give opportunities

for children who are less fortunate to go and enjoy stuff in holidays so they resort to. that habit so that you know you can't blame the use of being fed up in this feeling disenfranchised and there's nothing for them because it doesn't seem to be anything for them these days there's no jobs for them there's nothing for them to think the way for them to go flying around on street corners the current sickness isn't easily cured it's links to years of liberal policies resulting in an underclass of young people who don't equate rights with responsibilities anti social behavior results in a court order seen by many as a badge of honor schooling in deprived areas is disrupted by bad behavior teachers no longer have recourse to punishment and can't count on support from parents to out the you me they me calm me down pay me i don't know what that means but they need some faith to to to. contro not on.

i see you've got a lot of you got nothing to do. schemes the same place to help when you have something to do again exploit counts are you sure it's true as you found one of those schemes being caught is this bus which goes round the housing estates in hackney providing much needed resources and encouragement to young people there used to be another bus too but now there's no money to pay starts so because of government cutbacks the team can only reach half the youngsters they used to they're deemed to be failing school because they haven't met the criteria of jump through the hoops of seven. didn't go on to thought it did not achieve anything in life and respirations change and as a result often they are criminal or maybe drugs or just becoming a bowman society youth unemployment in hackney east london runs it over thirty percent parts of the bar are fairly affluent so it's reasonable to assume that

figure rises substantially when it comes to these council estates it's become a culture where in some cases it's more profitable to stay at home and claim benefits than it is to go out and work for a living there are jobs there if i wanted to do them most jobs now are filled by in pubs in shops and everywhere you go they're filled by eastern europeans who are highly educated who actually speak the language and they're getting the jobs and our own people are not getting them very often because they're not interested in education i don't really want to work the problem of marginalised it's not a quick fix and as such it's also not the lexan when they want to fix the media situation that the control it'll be interesting to see what the government does to fix the sickness in this is dicey if the answer is nothing you shouldn't be surprised to see violence flare again in you from all walks of life you're an authority hackney downs and. social websites like facebook and twitter are under threat as david cameron for. to do whatever it takes to restore order in the u.k.

for more let's talk a little activist chris knight he's on the line from london now hi there chris thanks for being with us so david cameron delivered a strong message did me concerning the riots to parliament today let's first of all this and to what he had to say everyone watching these horrific actions will be struck will be struck by how they were organized by social media free flow of information can be used for good but it can also be used for ill so we are working with the police the intelligence services and industry to look at whether it would be right to stop people communicating via these websites or services when we know they are plotting violence disorder and criminality so what you think about that good or bad. well obviously there's been a lot of violence. and looting going on recently and we need to crack down on crime but really for that crackdown to be effective it has to start at the top it has to start with the bankers for example who set fire not only to this

country's economy but to the global economy the very beginning of this year the bankers asked david cameron whether they could help themselves to seven billion pounds worth of bonuses and of course cameron said yes help yourself and we're seeing now that in order to appraise those bonuses this government is closing down through swimming pools and shutting youth centers and it's vandalizing the economy we've got a lot of looting going on we need to crack down on crime that crackdown has to start at the top with the with the with the criminals who made a successful living out of crime i take it as you say they're absolutely let's focus in though on what david cameron had to say today in this crackdown maybe on social media this i understand completely the bigger picture you're talking about but you know it's ironic kind of listening to what he had to say there david cameron he's got a privilege pretty much of a dilemma on his hands and it wasn't that long ago he was praising those

revolutions will remember it using social networking in egypt into near zero now he's ready to clamp down on the same card the websites. well the way he's going he's going to provoke a revolution in this part of the world and i would say if it needs a revolution to enforce the rule of law so be it the rule of law can't be enforced if it's one law for the rich and one for the poor the rule of law means the same law for everyone we have to start with the most powerful criminals and what we've seen recently is politicians on the take chief police constables on the take. we've seen the bankers on the take and these people have to be dealt with and when it comes to the question of violence what i would say is this law enforcement does require a certain amount of coercion let's have it but the scenes we saw over the last couple of days know over the weekend shops being looted people being burned out of the flats is that the way to get the change it's legally unexpressed to be done. i

can't even imagine how how could i possibly want my neighborhood to be burnt my garden to be invaded by the would i live to be looted of course i don't i'm simply saying instead of weasel words from politicians ok we're beginning to see a politician's right here and now let's have some action and the action has to start with the people who are the most powerful criminals and we know that the politicians are in the pay of those same bankers they've said they've set fire to say we have greece now instead going up in smoke italy spain apparently france next these bankers have set fire to the global economy these riots of course so terrible they could have stopped the looting and so but it's caused a few million pounds worth of damage as opposed to billions actually ultimately trillions of pounds worth of damage because from the real powerful criminals that are running the planet at the moment what you think the problem is to focus so much on social media do you think he's using it as a kind of scapegoat maybe you saw the blame how inflected from his government it's it's completely ridiculous it's like i don't know if it's like

a lot of blaming landlines or pushbutton phones for the water rights or something i mean it's not i mean it's good but in any case. how would you you know how would you stop the bankers using social media if you close down the electronic systems you wouldn't have a trade i know what i'm saying he's talking here not about bankers he's talking here about the way that the law now you guys are. using. i know i know i'm saying that the bankers do coordinate their crimes they do use the social media they do use very sophisticated electronic equipment maybe it's got to stop you know but i mean let's get our priorities right that's what i'm sorry or i but what about a club on this social media about a clamp down on twitter on facebook or blackberry just said if you name it good or bad why should that go as soon as as you said it is just so ironic having celebrated the facebook revolution the social media the twitter revolution across north africa and the arab world suddenly. decided to clamp down on the media here it's absolutely not the issue the issue is inequality the the issue is is is that i

mean what kind of a society are we that drives eleven year olds fourteen year old kids to that. mental state it's a very to you know to burn the local store it's a very good question because we get action we need we need action not weasel politicians words all right thanks for your message i'm afraid we're out of time for the who can talk about this for a lot more chris knight their political activist joining us on the line from london thank you. israel to approve the building of sixteen one hundred extra settlements in east jerusalem and peace talks between both sides have been stalled by the recent construction of jewish homes in the west bank this comes just weeks said of an expected move by the palestinian to ministration state recognized at the u.n. security council. middle east correspondent paula slee a reports. the israeli government has announced that it approves the construction of we're being told some two thousand two hundred and twenty five new housing units in neighborhoods across east jerusalem and in the coming days they are expected to give their not to

a third of the two thousand seven hundred now these housing units are in areas in neighborhoods across the one thousand nine hundred sixty seven arms to the lines they are areas of israel and mixed but that annexation was never recognized by the international community now certainly the timing is significant because this announcement comes as tens of thousands of israelis have taken to the streets calling for more affordable housing they're also criticizing the high costs of living in this country but the government denies that this announcement has any kind of political connotations insect interior ministry says it was merely of the spawns to the growing housing crisis in this country but peace now movement has issued a statement and it really echoes what many activists in this country are saying and to quote from part of it it says that the government is cynically using the housing crisis in israel to promote the construction of settlements what we're likely to see through this move is certainly a strong reaction to what many are calling a provocation for quite some time now israeli palestinian peace talks have been

deadlocked it certainly is not going to improve those and it comes ahead of next month's planned palestinian announcement of statehood early this week in a rare move the u.s. state department issued a statement in which it said that it was deeply concerned around some nine hundred housing units that formed part of this group that were being planned for a neighborhood known as the heart of hama essentially in this neighborhood to illustrate it to you would have a line of israeli homes that would break a palestinian state they would actually prevent palestinian east jerusalem from being connected to bethlehem so it and many saying that that is an attempt to try and make a future palestinian state that much more improbable now last march when the erase vice president joe biden was here it was a. at that stage that these really government was planning to build one thousand six hundred housing units and there's a part of the announcement today that created a lot of tension between the u.s. and the israeli government and certainly today what we see in light of this announcement is that kind of tension just being further exacerbated. the commenting

on the news that more settler homes who builds these troops the baskin tell me it couldn't hurt the situation more that it was ready. and this is not a time when it seems likely that israelis and palestinians will be moving toward the peace talks and that the americans will be leading the way the main issue that has blocked a return to negotiations is the continued settlement building by the government of israel this is not going to help the situation let's face it the government of israel feels pretty immune to any criticism around the world right now i want this issue everyone is busy with the global financial crisis the united states as well those involved twenty percent of the u.s. congress visiting israel this week and we all know that mr netanyahu has a lot more support in the american congress than he does even in his own parliament so there isn't just be another is really active building more settlements within neighborhoods of east jerusalem without anyone really blinking and it's not going

to help the situation it's not going to hurt it much more than it's already hurting . check out our website r.t. dot com for more news blogs analysis is takes few stories to go online tonight for you swift revenge mate who says insurgents in afghanistan have downed the coalition's helicopter leaving thirty eight dead or killed in a special operation that is so the taliban is denying tonight we got the latest updates online for you tonight is this a dot com story we brought you yesterday for didn't catch it find out what's being done to stop sexual predators when paedophile offenders escape justice in russia's far east people taking the law into their own hands there again we've got a report on live for us exclusively from outside our team talk. to american war veterans can go ahead with a civil lawsuit over allegations that were wrongfully held and tortured in iraq by the u.s. forces don rumsfeld former country's secretary of defense could be found personally liable in this the two men worked for

a private security company in iraq in two thousand and six when they highlighted concerns the firm was engaged in corruptions get more from brian becker from the walkover that is joining us now from washington tonight i live right now these two men i said they were detained for nine months in retaliation for efforts to reveal illegal activities by their employer that's their story how much would the former bush and current obama administration want to get their case dismissed. well it's obviously a top priority clearly for the bush administration and all the bush era officials who could also be stripped of immunity and held liable for crimes committed during their watch but it's also a priority for the obama administration which ironically is the entity providing defense for donald rumsfeld that what the seventh circuit the court of appeals ruled is that if donald rumsfeld's policies knowingly violated the american constitution the u.s. constitution if they engaged in or allowed the engagement of illegal activities

like torture that he does not have immunity from prosecution or from civil suit and so this opens the door to what is growing as an as a movement inside the united states and internationally for accountability and consequences for crimes committed during the bush era though a court has ruled that former pentagon chief donald rumsfeld has got no immunity in this case do you believe he could ever be brought to justice if found guilty. well the what rumsfeld would be held liable for right now in the case of a civil action is not criminal penalties but civil penalties in other words money and other possible relief injunctive relief that the that the plaintiffs may be seeking but what we have to recognize is that by stripping rumsfeld of immunity for the acts of torture against american citizens this opens wide the door not only

for rumsfeld but for dick cheney for bush for all of those who advocated or put into place policies like the policy of torture which they call enhanced interrogation techniques euphemistically and very thinly euphemistically disguising torture which is illegal then that means all of these people could be in the dock in the united states for instance there's movement an on line movement called indict bush now which calls for the indictment of rumsfeld cheney and bush one hundred seventy thousand americans have signed also in line with the court's decision demanding accountability and consequences for crimes committed during the bush era brought is there a linkage to nationality of who allegedly committed the crimes as well without but other lawsuits in the past against the u.s. government over allegations of abuse and torture overseas but most evolved for in the so the easily been dismissed by u.s. courts now of course this one is different because it's american citizens did it american courts it seems the courts therefore taking

a different approach hence the you to. well very possibly the court might have thought the fact that these are u.s. citizens and not afghans iraqis or or pakistanis others who have been subjected to the same and perhaps even and i'm say with certainty much far worse abuse in the hands of the their u.s. jailers maybe the court use this as a way to give itself some space but the fact of the matter is once and unity is stripped from rumsfeld once he has to stand trial for torture which is what these men are alleging then it opens the door why not only in the united states but internationally for similar court actions and i think you'll see those percolating up this could be the tip of the iceberg in terms of the movement for accountability and consequences for torture and other crimes committed during the bush era briefly just to look at the response from the rumsfeld side a lawyer representing the rooms filled not surprisingly the court decision was

a blow to the u.s. military putting american soldiers at risk and shackling officials who have a constitutional duty to protect america is there any law that you that at all. well it's the expected response from the pentagon if you try to hold pentagon officials in this case the head of the pentagon donald rumsfeld accountable for torture or other illegal acts that somehow shackles the hands of u.s. military but ironically it suggests that the united states government needs to demands to him is engaging in illegal acts and that if anyone holds them accountable that will be quote shackling in their effort to carry out war it's partly demagogy but by virtue of the nature of the argument it also reveals that they in fact have institutionalized torture otherwise they would not be afraid of the allegation against it probably to leave it there thanks for being on the program director of the answer coalition talking to us on the line from washington d.c. . next the loss of america's aaa credit score sparked public selloffs of global

markets after several days of concern over whether france would retain its highest status ratings giants did reaffirm its top billing wednesday but investors remain unconvinced that the country's finances a solid enough financial analysts might skies told me he believes the french banking system is not going to pull through the current crisis. the french banks are loaded with toxic derivatives that were sold to them by american investment banks and the american investment banks plus the rating agencies plus the hedge funds are now attacking these french banks they know where the bodies are buried and they're using the weapons that they sold them to attack them and you know going back to the s. and p. downgrade just before the s. and p. downgrade of u.s. debt i told you point blank with certainty that the rating would be downgraded now i'm telling you that the rating will be downgraded again because this is part of

a new era on wall street where they go after sovereign debt and the hedge funds and the rating agencies and wall street banks work together now to destabilize the sovereign debt of these countries because remember the hedge funds wall street working with the rating agencies are bigger than any of these countries this is a war this is the world war three this is the new war using financial derivatives and the objective is to preserve the speculative rates given to the wall street bankers of zero percent you know ben bernanke you this week came out and said we're going to keep interest rates at zero for another two years or indefinitely that doesn't help workers that doesn't help savers it doesn't help society that only helps speculators that only helps the plunderers brandy's job is to be down in the mouth and say that he must keep interest rates low that's his job and to determine where interest rates should be he looks at a series of statistics that do not include energy or food so he does not see

inflation he only looks at things that are falling in price and therefore he concludes that there is deflation and that interest may rates must be near zero and in switzerland now interest rates have gone negative they're charging people to keep money at the bank my prediction will be this will be widespread all over the g. twenty nations negative interest rates forcing people into these speculative bets which of course benefit the terrorist the financial terrorists j.p. morgan goldman sachs received barclays the central banks the bank of international settlements the rating agencies the hedge funds this is a war. well the only marks because it was must watch t.v. here on r t and it's all new screens again in two hours time for another full program with him for thirty minutes with max and co right now let's get across the latest business after this quick break dimitris here. so hungry for the full story we've gone to. the biggest issues get a human voice face to face with the news makers.

and which great. song from the student. council team don't come. alone welcome to business r.t. with. the russian markets have closed in positive territory for the first time in seven trading sessions it was anything but a smooth day there with markets experiencing exceptional volatility moscow was given a lift towards the close after wall street opened strongly rather national capital

explains what he thinks might bring some stability and sanity back to them so. it's crazy out there of the moment i think the markets you know they're really trading on the fear right now as much as anything else everybody's watching everybody else and trying to work out what's going to happen next nervously that's very difficult with the volatility that we're seeing right now the markets are still trying to gauge whether this is the first stage in what could be a multi-stage downturn or is this just this is just a correction a big nasty correction i don't think there's any sort of one one thing that people are looking for i would guess that i would guess right now the world is hoping to see some sort of coordinated effort from the monetary authorities in both europe and the u.s. to try and address these kinds of these kinds of issues you know perhaps if there's one thing that could sort of draw a line under everything is the european you. finally admitting that there needs to be some kind of fiscal union within europe. well a circular at the closing figures for the russian markets the r.t.s. said my sex managed to gain half per cent at the end of

a session while my six was actually dropping to a twelve month for low during this session take a look at the closing of figures for some of the stocks main movers gas prom among energy energy shares was one of the most impressive stocks up four point six percent of the close norris nichole down the minus of syria's board by two percent of the company's shares to one point two billion dollars and. losing another fifteen percent in just one session on the back of a revaluation of the company's worth after its unification with all of its subsidiaries. in europe this is the closing picture for it see at the diet scale a more than three percent after positive opening in the states the european union's market supervisor says european regulators are increasing surveillance of financial markets following several days of steep sell offs in the u.s. the markets more than just positive after

a better than expected jobs day certain new jobless claims declined by seven thousand last week bringing the stepped down to its lowest since april they're full of dow jones and nasdaq are gaining three and harvey said looking at commodities now precious metals are in the red as investors shift to more risky assets gold actually broke a record on wednesday of eight hundred dollars per ounce but it's losing one point nine percent this ourselves but one point one percent down and oil prices this calls that have light sweet regaining eighty two percent brands of fifty seven cents to said some light sweet crude i must correct myself as more confidence in the global recovery comes back into the market with this job say to me it's. kevin is next with the headlines to stay with us. wealthy british style.

markets. find out what's really happening to the global economy with mike stronger for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines kaiser reports.

from moscow and these are all top stories for you tonight and u.k. is reeling from several months of violence on its streets since the pm friends to shut down online social networks during the unrest meanwhile britain asks if the government breaches in the social system playing foot instigating disorder. is rather proves the building of new settlements in the occupied territories just weeks before palestinian authorities are expected to ask the united nations for recognition of the state. and for the future of the u.s. and european economies under constant scrutiny as you insight into whether the west couldn't weather this storm. well with news from a in thirty minutes time here on this channel next though our special report on how and why members of the colombian army turned on their own people killing innocent civilians a special report on our team.