and let's not go bansal washington studio so they had you on the show. artis time for show and tell on tonight's program now last time we discussed how one media al that was helping off already is in london find out who the culprits are the looting and vandalism but is that really the media's job or should that be left to law enforcement let's go to producer treasonous sente to find out what you have to say. if you're going to use your blackberry to do anything illegal well perhaps you need to read the company's privacy policy first it says a country's courts governments or law enforcement agencies could obtain disclosure of your information under that country's law what it does not say is room blackberry executives can decide on their own whether disclosure communications so police a blackberry feels you are going to do something illegal on the other hand facebook's

privacy policy is a little bit more upfront about how they're going to protect your privacy well their policy says we meaning facebook may share information when we believe it is necessary to prevent illegal activity may include sharing with other companies lawyers courts or government entities so was it ok for blackberry or other social media to decide on their own to share messages with police to help track down these riders well stephen said yes absolutely they should bill said without a doubt catching criminals is nothing to be ashamed of folks on you tube disagreed absolutely not he said though i'm against violence of riders i'm just as against furthering the scope of big brother scott added it would only expedite the coming of a full on surveillance state the media and police working hand in hand no they well all of you who replied made good arguments let's not lose track of the fact that technology well it cuts both ways and may have been used to organize riots but on

the other hand the london police also they also you. flicker facebook twitter to aid in a rest as well as organize cleanup efforts after the riots so a majority of you agreed that writers need to face justice but the question still remains who decides when information is turned over to one side or the other is it a democratically appointed court or someone sitting behind the desk at room blackberry. as always thank you for your responses and here's our next question for you now we just debated whether the pentagon could really know who the guy was a shot down a helicopter and killed thirty u.s. service members in afghanistan last weekend or was this all just a few let us know what you think do you believe the pentagon when they say they shot the guy that was responsible for taking down the u.s. helicopter in afghanistan you can respond to us on facebook twitter and you too and your response it just might meet on it. all political eyes are on iowa as the g.o.p.

presidential candidates will engage in another debate tonight had the ames straw poll this weekend and while flip flopping on issues or just not energizing the crowd could be big problems for some candidates how much does religion play a role and i don't mean who can prove that they're more against abortion and gay marriage in the next guy or girl i mean the fact that both mitt romney and jon huntsman are mormon in a recent quinnipiac poll found that one third of americans so they were somewhat or entirely uncomfortable with a presidential candidate who is a member of the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints thirty two percent said they had an unfavorable opinion of the mormon religion and in the week we saw the conviction of warren jeffs the leader of the largest polygamist sect in the u.s. you have to wonder how much of a connection americans still make with mormons and polygamy a recent gallup poll finds that eighty six percent of americans think that polygamy is morally wrong so why is that and are polygamy and democracy incompatible joining me to discuss this is joseph hendrick associate professor at the university of

british columbia just i want to thank you very much for joining us tonight and so if we can just. start with this basic idea i just named off a couple of polls right as to why americans are so against polygamy and think it's so morally wrong where do you think that really stems from is this another one of those cases where they say well that's because the bible defines marriage as just between one man and one woman. well you know i think it comes from their cultural traditions and the fact that they were they grew up wanting to believe certain things certain cultural practices certain institutions well i mean there is there is an argument to be made that polygamy increases crime rates by creating a large pool of men who are marriageable and then they begin to take risks and this leads to more crime and has a bunch of downstream negative impacts on society so i made the argument that monogamy spreads because it's it's better for the group it's better for society well give us a little more insight into that i mean do you say then that polygamy and democracy

can't go hand in hand. well the part with democracy is an interesting question i mean it's going to have negative effects on on things like crime and the equality of women whether or not the bocher seasonable but historians have speculated that. monogamy in the in the european in the western tradition. monogamy preceded the emergence of democratic governments and so it's the first time in which the king and the peasant are put on the same platform you can only have one whites. and we know that monogamy emerged in ancient greece just at the time the greeks are beginning to develop the basic ideals of the foundations of the mockers and then it's going to rome and spread throughout europe from there now how do you compare that to you know what we see going on now that because so there is that idea of equality right that every person can only have one wife or one husband but these days there's money in the way because you can be a very wealthy individual here in the u.s.

they can have multiple wives the through the sense of getting married many times and getting divorced every single time and still being able to pay off all the alimony whatever comes with it. sure so the i mean the rules we have now that prescribe monogamy it prevents rich men from accumulating large numbers of wives every time you want to get a new way you have to get rid of the old one which keeps the total number of women out there roughly equal. that actually does create an interesting bias but it's not nearly as much as you'd get if you know the richest men the billionaires in the world in the country could accumulate literally hundreds of wives if they could support as well as millionaires or egypt or i guess these days they also could just accumulate mistresses if they had to and probably put them up in penthouse apartments all over the world or in whatever city they need to write a little mistresses or harder to hold onto than wives because you know there's all these institutional and expectations of the community about what a wife is supposed to do as opposed to what it mistresses posed to do and risk you

know the the key to understanding marriages is not with the contract between the two people but how the rest of the community feels about it they're the ones who do the policing they're the ones who affect the reputation of the individuals involved interesting but so then let's go back to this idea right the way that americans look at polygamy i don't think the most americans think of polygamy and think of crime rates going up necessarily it becomes about morality and it becomes about judgment the way that they view someone else's marriage so is do you think that the idea of polygamy then has something to do with the way that americans view the mormon religion even though for example mitt romney and jon huntsman they are not polygamists even though they are mormons. well i think it's important realize that modern mormonism as has long since given up polygamy under under pressure from the united states government in the late nineteenth century but so you don't want to confuse the fundamentalist mormons in the warren jeffs with with modern mormonism i think you know fair. so my oh my understanding of cultural evolution is that you

know people believe this stuff because it's part of their religion or it or their cultural beliefs or whatnot but the reason why it's spread it's been so successful in societies that adopt these these deeply held sometimes moral and religious convictions is because those societies are more successful they have better economic systems in part because of the institutions they have one of which is monogamy but people don't understand why it works it just does work and it spreads because it does work so now what do you think of where monogamy is these days i guess you could still say that for the most part the majority of relations ships are monogamous minds but people are waiting much longer to settle down right there is more of a hookup culture if you are if you're younger and then at the same time divorce rates are constantly skyrocketing so is monogamy in peril. well i think when you think about this it's important to distinguish sexual monogamy what have the number of people you have sex with from marital monogamy so the thing that makes the social system work is marital an oddity so you met only have exclusive sexual

relations with one person you have this economic relationship that goes on and as well if people have short term nonexclusive relationships on the side that doesn't affect any of the sort of public policy questions. ok interesting now if we go back to this connection that you're making too between democracy and monogamy as well i mean are there countries out there which you can pinpoint now right if we look more at islamic culture where oftentimes men do have many wives do you think that it's not possible for democracy to be there or that it might come harder and we are seeing their spring we are seeing a number of uprisings revolutions and pushes for democracy around the world. well so the first thing to realize about islam is that it's a partial step towards your rights so. muslim limits may have to four wives and there's restrictions about treating them equally and not taking away if you can't afford so compared to the place where his long started that's a tremendous restriction on the number of why she has limited or but. and i do

think that these things will co-op because as you get more equality among women one of the things that eludes me clearly clearly pushes against is it pushes towards female inequality so either forces are working towards female equality these two things are going to you know move together in social it looks very interesting perspective i think that of course some people might be skewed if they watch some t.v. h.b.o. of course has their show big love that kind of makes polygamy look like fun but i guess that the reality is definitely are not always the same as they look on t.v. that's for sure i want to thank you very much for joining us tonight. thank you. now sort of come tonight two best friends a media mogul and criminal allegations sounds like he's pretty in for a good little time when we return and then stick around for happy hour to be able to join the mile high club without even leaving your seats plus outrage over planned osama bin ladin was back in just enough.

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now as you know these corporate under investigation for hacking in the u.k. company's news of the world tabloid is accused of hacking the phones of celebrity is the role family of dead british soldiers and a young murder victim so the scandal was so bad that the tabloid was closed by murdoch and parliament hall rupert and his son james before them to testify over those allegations and of course both of them denied any knowledge of what was happening and rupert was very sorry. i would just like to say one said. that i was humbled and i. think are now back to the hacking case here in the u.s. so prepare a is tasked with looking into. allegations the nine eleven victims might have had their phones hacked along with charges of corruption and anti-competitive behavior by company owned by news corp and this is where the case gets interesting now i want to bring in viet dinh he's been picked up by rupert murdoch to lead news corp's internal probe and he's also on the board of news corp now viewed as

a great legal record he was an assistant attorney general in the bush administration he even clerked for former supreme court justice sandra day o'connor so we have the it in running the internal probe at news corp and prepare a running the u.s. attorney's investigation but as the atlantic reported today seems like a v. preet are actually good friends now you might be asking how good friends like i don't know maybe they had a beer or two in the past nothing major. actually a v. it was betts met best man at breach wedding and i'm not making that one up so the two are actual best friends and then one is investigating the other's company for possible criminal activity the same body else think there might be a little bit of a conflict of interest here but the story gets even better viet dinh who works for rupert is actually the godfather for one of rupert sons so wow what a tangled web these guys are trying to weave now a time magazine article about the connection so that it's unclear the have ever

discussed any intention of recusing themselves from either side of this investigation and they wouldn't speak to time magazine about the case but you have to wonder did rupert murdoch pick viet dinh to run the internal investigation because he was best friends with preet bharara i'm sure that this would be his answer. it is. so now i want to point out the none of the men have done anything wrong or illegal prosecutors and defense lawyers are often friends in trials all over the world but this case does it pass the smell test to say no it looks like the u.s. attorney's office is a little too cozy with the company that they're supposed to be investigating and that's why we're giving prepare our and viet dinh tonights told time award and help all even throw rupert murdoch as well.

ok guys it's time for happy hour this evening and joining me tonight producer jenny churchill and jim hansen retired special operations master sergeant and military blogger of black five dot net hey guys how they go in. you know. clothing companies always trying to make ads to get people to think of their hip and they're cool and this is why you should be wearing your stuff and so levi's made an ad like that about why you should be wearing their jeans but some people think that maybe the timing of the release of this ad which by the way they have now pulled from the web since we found the story this morning maybe the timing wasn't quite right you take a look. your life is your life. and liberty clubs should be sure. there are ways and there is light somewhere it may not be much light but it beats

the day. the life for. which. you are. ok so there is riot police say a little bit of tear gas there and so everybody automatically says look is a really bad time to be advertising riots considering what's going on in london you know you can just walk in for the riot police and say check out my levi's when they leave you alone but i don't really think that that's right footage yes there is tear gas but often tear gas is used when there's not necessarily a riot taking place it could be a peaceful protest. and i am i was right out all the time i mean if you did your intro no as you well alone are you honestly trying to tell me that this levi's ad isn't trying to capitalize on the arab spring please tell me that finally you're saying that i'm not saying now i was saying that those people weren't protester i and there are i mean i think there's a big difference between protesting and between riots right between if i know if

you're going to show a riot then you going to show people actually breaking the windows looting vandalizing doing everything that ever has been so worried about right there that's been going wrong in london right now but just showing a lineup of riot police i've seen many lineups of riot police when i'm covering a peaceful protest as a reporter and i don't think of the two are synonymous i guess they didn't have time to read edit it since they started burning want to get levi's on right now and i'm going to stop all my waiting and grab a new plasma screen and make you really poor things here one is i think it's a little weird like the marketing and like come loot our jeans levi's go and also like it's like stand apart do your own thing there levi and i really grow most popular in china well i think the. i mean are the betting going to be. let's be honest a little there was no looting in the city i'm going to say they are saying come conform levi's have been around for decades they're levi's their levi years i think

it's really weird but that's what they have to guess that's what they think they have to do to try and stay on the edge ok. let's move on to another story so there is a lot of outrage right now and if you ask me it's fake outrage and stupid outrage over the idea because there kathryn bigelow is making a film about osama bin laden and so now there are allegations because of one report that somebody met the screenwriter may have met somebody down wrote about it that they may i can totally messing this up let's just play the clip and i'll get into the explanation. for the making of a movie that will bring the bin laden raid to life is causing some controversy in washington this after reports surfaced that the administration greenlighted access to the elite navy seals who took out related access by the. agreement what well ok so peter king now wants an investigation and republicans are up in arms and

they're so angry and it's not fake totally oh oh gotcha there is going on what do you alleghenies about first of all there's not even any real proof right was one thing that perhaps the screenwriter was at one event that is me and they greenlighted access to classified documents and classified information as peter king is trying to argue but the bigger point is that i'm sorry the pentagon it works with hollywood all the time there's a whole massive propaganda machine that's going on there republicans are only fake outrage now because it's the obama administration that's doing it and the holy ghost what is really going to come out in november right before obama's reelection everyone's going to remember that he's the one that took out osama bin laden and that's why they're pissed ok well that's that's reasonable right there but they got one of the screenwriters wrote a story for rolling stone cold the key. team which was an absolute hit piece we're trying to make all. stand out to be these robots were just killing machine slaughtering about the actual kill team that was going around killing. i've been

talking pictures with them yes and the bottom line was this story was what the story was overblown and it completely blew the tires you know that no prosecution is still going on and this is. when they made the movie hurt locker included a bunch of scenes at the end at the pentagon had to prove that violated their agreement with the pentagon were to go ahead and cooperate with that with one official using them i find that reading on how so much say over movies is what's the ridiculous part right because now you see these filmmakers that feel like well if they want to have access to certain information you know certain areas to certain materials contacts planes then they have to do what the pentagon wants and they can't even make a realistic movie well. i think that it is a little ridiculous because you've got you know the transformers movie that came out a few months ago which was clearly had ties to the pentagon in promoting the army and then when this comes out it's not ok how ever i personally think that films like this should not be made when we're actively fighting a war in afghanistan against the taliban that's how you know you are in

a low and i know you disagree with me i just personally don't think that we should be in a good movie looking as out of order interview. for story why you know the war on terror because it is a lot like the war on terror is going to end anytime soon is it still going to be sorry it's just too sensitive because we're still in the middle of this gets involved to make sure that they don't make a movie that's another hit piece like value and redacted lions lands or whatever and every movie that hollywood has made about the war in iraq and then more power to you i mean that's kind of hypocritical so you're saying that like people can't make movies thinking on their own are going to change and they don't and you know the only reason that the pentagon right now you know they gave us the thing most movies were all garbage and they portrayed the military in ways that weren't even close down the list actually i don't know. but they're made. can't get angry just because someone's going to have a negative view of your wars and not portray the pentagon as the best in my he is wonderful thing in the world. so i'm frustrated. if you're flying

next time on quantas airlines you might be a little surprised by what you might see take a look at. guess something. from the news crew do some version of. that's right quantas airlines is airing a documentary called the female orgasm explained on their flights right now. what do you think or do you don't know when i was on for the booboo show and i came out as one hundred percent i'm going to go with one hundred percent pro female orgasm more powers than the silly name. that really i mean honestly you want to know i want you to be completely honest you would not feel i'm going to roll sitting next to someone not listening to talk about it in french. yes it's inappropriate i mean really going to show you i'm actually surprised i have to say you i'm a pretty i don't know you know how graphic the entire thing is right it's like they

were maybe. it is a soft core porn with clips of real porn inside it ok i mean what do you think we're going to change my mind what i don't know i think they know that i want to know how graphic it is because if there's kids on the plane and they're just you know. that of course i don't this is i remember examining it on the personal screen oh i play it all the way it's for your personal so you're telling me if you're sitting next to a guy who looks like a child molester on the plane watching that you're not going to be uncomfortable so i'm just as a judge somebody by how i feel now that i know you're a child or you can write or know you are a terrorist you're a horrible person you know you know i don't think of something that might be a little more up your alley in that case and take a look at it they basically said that you can't use the word olympics and carol brooks promoted the event in a phone call monday he says a representative from the olympic legal department not only said brooks couldn't use the word olympics but also threatened legal action like it or not the committee

does have grounds for a lawsuit. olympic committee well let the guy have his red neck a limb big come on anybody who can confuse the two offense you know it's going to be you know it's going to be london this time there you could have story. being in the right if you know you don't go to sort of let me out of the lead drive it and he says that b. and interview he is like i got to tell you not a single person showed up this week compute it's like whoa we're on the x. . redneck olympics everybody is going to start taking place every year you guys are right thanks for joining me tonight you guys it's a friday night show thank you for tuning in and make sure they come back tomorrow i'll be picking the kashmir hill blogger for forbes about the recent developments the private companies are getting in on the drone game in the meantime don't forget to become a fan of the lower show on facebook and follow us on twitter if you missed any of tonight's show or any other night's you can always catch you tube dot com slash the a lot of show and coming up next is adam versus the man.

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