news and comment live from marty lloyd here in moscow it's just turned ten pm good to have you with us this hour. of police not doing enough to keep london safe the british public take to the streets to protect their neighborhoods from vandals after several days of have a clue to shops and torch cause communities decided it's time to take the matter into the own hands and more emirates has more. to goodness i can assure you a warning to looters if you come out to enfield tonight you'd better be in disguise at the first sign of trouble this is what happens. around five hundred mainly young men chase down the road after police ready to drive troublemakers out of town. despite the mob atmosphere a large crowd of young men are out for justice there's been no trouble so far most are ordinary people out to protect their communities a lot of people are here to help there obviously are some people that are going to

do the opposite effect but you're going to get that everywhere very much started taking our stories up with young children not that well but children on the streets for the decide if there's not enough police them will help them and just get everyone away just look after all the shops and this push them away basically we don't want to go off to anyone cause any trouble we just want to make sure that no one comes in and start smashing the shops up in the roots and it's not just in enfield in other parts of town sikhs have banded together to protect their livelihoods and property sons and daughters come together with us and say let's solve the problems without undue violence and causing distress to trouble which then takes it on. causing further violence in the streets. this is the current face of communities across england many of which felt under siege from looters and said in their dog. our the police were nowhere to be seen

police have not been anywhere where the police if the police were here all that would have been maybe this is what david cameron means when he talks constantly about the big society handing power and responsibility back to local communities and i think the scenes we all saw our television screens last night of communities coming together to try and stop violence taking place was a model of how these things should be done that despite the fact that three young asian men were killed in birmingham early on wednesday trying to protect local businesses looters allegedly rammed the with a car the tragedy ignited anger in the asian community a vigilante band attracts all sorts and. doesn't just rear its head in looters there's a huge number of police officers on the streets of england at the moment which many find reassuring but groups like the enfield army prove that communities still feel

police are unable to protect them with budget cuts for front line officers still on the table on the beat could get fewer and further between local vigilante groups could take up the slack. and let's talk a lot from the u.k. pirate party he joins us live now from manchester thanks very much indeed for being with us here in r.t. in our top metropolitan police officers said that vigilantism could lead to violence but if the police fail to protect people in their property surely those who are threatened are left with no other option. well i think we've all been shocked here in the united kingdom about the scenes that we've seen over the last few days of riots arson and looting but thankfully things are getting back to normal here now and that's because of robust policing and policing which is been visible and has also been working with the consent of the communities i think that

that's going to be the key to the way forward many people were asking for some extreme types of measures to deal with the kind of scenes that we've heard over the last few days so for example bringing on bringing in the army or water cannons or bullets but it's clearly that actual reversed visible positive policing is the way forward vigilantism can only actually lead to further tensions and exacerbating problems it's actually calm that we need on the streets of london. and i'm happy to say that it's now what we're seeing that britain is back in business again and picking up the pieces and being positive so much searching for the reasons behind this latest violence in the u.k. of course i do want to talk about social networking now we heard that david cameron delivered a strong message saying that the free flow of information can be used for ill now

could that perhaps be a sign that we could see the control of social networking in the u.k. . well david cameron's announcement yesterday did amount to plans for restrictions on social media and services like blackberry messenger now this is an army acceptable needs reaction and it's actually a lurch towards authoritarianism it's the kind of thing that we in the pirate party have been warning about now for some time here in the united kingdom it's a further step towards sword censorship and it's actually except but the most important thing to say is that it's actually not practicable the kind of plans that were that he was putting forward yesterday but isn't it indeed indicative of the case that it is a serious issue here another quote from the metropolitan police saying that social media and other methods have been used to organize these levels of greed and

criminality so surely cameron's potential idea of putting some sort of control over sushi social media does hold some sort of water because you know if it does prevent that sort of thing happening in the future then that is justified isn't it. well it's actually not practicable what the idea was of the plans was somehow to stop individuals inciting violence through social media now i haven't even seen any concrete evidence for example that it was used in this way but the only way that such and such an action be carried out is by blanket bans now this would only go to the majority of the population instead for the actions of a tiny criminal minority but if it. gets a blanket blanket ban for a short period of time wouldn't most of society accept it and say that's a very good reason. well i think not because for example their worst suggestions

for example to close down black berry messenger if we'd done that earlier this week it could have caused widespread panic and certainly and certainly meant it was more difficult for families to get in contact with their loved ones or to tell crisis essentially it's important to say that so that what didn't happen was a bunch of people discovered twitter and said oh this would be a good way to organize a riot we must look at root causes not channels of communication. we'll leave it there thanks so much for your time joining us live there in moscow from the u.k. pirate party thanks. a u.s. court has ruled the two american contractors who work for a private security firm in iraq consume donald rumsfeld over the alleged illegal imprisonment and torture if proven guilty the former pentagon chief would be held personally accountable while in iraq the two men made claims that there was engaged

in corruption it's believed that they would then detain for the nine months in the military facility before being released without explanation or charge on the suit against from so it had been rejected by prosecutors until now lawyer and human rights activist jennifer harbury says other officials from the bush administration should also be held accountable. the only outcome in a civil case is that he must pay money damages to the people that he caused injury to both of these being u.s. citizens the rather startling outcome is that now united states sentence and can sue for torture that happened outside in lighted states but someone who is not a u.s. citizen who is probably harmed even worse or even tell by those exact same practices they were ordered and authorized by mr rumsfeld cannot sue under our own laws let alone all the international treaties mr rumsfeld should be going to jail for people that he has authorized the torture of throughout the black sites throughout the

world there is the very notorious document where he had to rise to a whole string in terrible practices and then at the bottom said i have to stand for eight hours at a time during the work why should the prisoners a huge difference of course being that he could walk around and full well the prisoners had to stay in a fixed position which causes the lymph nodes throughout the body to swell until the people can't even get their shoes back on usually it's excruciating so because he ordered those he certainly should be subject to suit that does not mean that all of the other people a ward with him on all of this including president bush of course should not also be subject to suit they should be. at least the pentagon doesn't seem to be worried about money is it splashes the cash in a bid to convince young americans to sign up for the army alongside financial uncertainty and unemployment hollywood and the video games industry are helping turn military service into an attractive option. in

a report on how the future is playing out for would be soldiers. a hunt for american youth. to hunt down the next american and in the war incorporated a robust business machine is operating at full capacity in the us the strength to lead. from televised ads to hollywood blockbusters. to video games to american presidents dubbing soldiers the real patriots each of them adds honor to what it means to be a soldier sailor airman marine and coast guardsman the image of the american he is portrayed as that of the invisible hero times square one of the number one entertainment spots in the big apple attracts millions from around the world and across the u.s. apart from the flashing lights and the billboards there's a recruitment center right here one of hundreds just a new york the mesmerizing take meek's luring young americans into serving are more

sophisticated than ever before sponsoring a video game tournaments and keep up tournaments and then going up to these young kids who perform well and say the u.s. military needs to see your skills at this video game of course to young fifteen or sixteen or seventeen year old this is something that's very basic it's a cruel and deceptive type of recruitment they want to use all the hippest tools they can to make being in the military has school as possible now as cinematographer edward pages dedicated ten years to being a u.s. soldier he thought it was the honorable thing to do if they presented the military for what it was i don't think anyone would join but they do join having. played one computer game and seen one war movie too many there's no second chance when you're actually out there and your life is at risk for something that most of these young men have no idea really the true reason why they're even out there by the time some of these reasons are realized the military up. the street and the world that are

suffering the limits to us it is often too late the problem is that a lot of these kids don't know once they get in it's hard to get out first some the way out is suicide a military report says eighty percent of soldiers in afghanistan have seen a friend killed or injured yet nothing stops the military propaganda campaign a direct hit hold also comes in handy for the pentagon there's a joke in the military that the best recruiter is an economic downturn and that recruiter is raging on what happened after two thousand and eight that solve their problem was the desperation of millions of americans we had an economic crisis we've had unemployment up no matter the times the power of the pentagon seems eternal meaning luring in more young americans into more wars with no happy end or game over in sight and as the. new york. well still to come this

hour in a t. an assault on civil liberties in hungary journalists are forced to keep quiet if they want to keep their jobs as a new media nor islam for curbing press freedom. of course after choppy week for europe stocks for eurozone countries have resorted to methods unseen since the two thousand and eight crisis to try and calm markets france italy spain and belgium of decided to ban short selling on the shares of banks and other financial companies approach to seize investors selling stocks that are expected to fall in price before buying them back in keeping the difference short selling has been blamed for increasing recent market volatility meanwhile france has been battling speculation it was going to lose its aaa score which was finally reaffirmed by ratings johnson wednesday and this is however remain unconvinced the country's finances are solid enough recent figures show stagnation in growth while the banking sector has been battling hell for him as yet haagen from the european

school of management and technology says it's the banks that are once again being offered protection. part of these rescue managed measures have been taken to to rescue the banking system. especially with the banks and southern europe and i think this needs to be addressed but overall we also have this kind of political situation which has been very convenient for governments to increase debt levels to avoid bringing tough measures to their constituencies and i think this is something that has to end markets have indicated that they are not willing anymore to finance these large debt levels my fear is that we see some short term improvement in the share prices i think overall we will see a continued downward trend so overall i think these measures will not have a long lasting effect france also has a debt problem the overall debt level is very high and now that the u.s. government debt has been downgraded because obvious fear of who will be next in the game and we've seen the problems with spain in italy recently and i think it's

quite natural that the ma. it's at this stage are concerned about france as well so i think that the french government is under some strong pressure to act requires some political will to implement these changes and i think that is the big if so if france is able to convince the market that it will implement these tough measures then i think we could see some stabilization in the markets by the way more news coming tonight catching videos are always there if you want to a website here's a taste of what's online if you right now. dot com. shorts fought in the korean peninsula and fresh tensions between the north and south with analysts predicting souls twenty twelve elections will bring big changes in relations. and an alien abduction is more likely than sensible congressman at least according to the majority of americans who are rapidly losing trust in their lawmakers but more on that story head to o.t. dot com. well let's have

a quick look now at some other news from around the world in our world update this hour in syrian security forces of renewed to clamp down on anti regime protest as following friday's prayers when mass riots erupted in several towns at least ten protest as were shot dead in separate clashes across the country after police opened fire on the crowds comes after american secretary of state hillary clinton called for wider international sanctions on syria the ongoing unrest which began in march a set of claimed seventeen s. at least four people been killed and dozens more injured after a train derailed in central poland it was traveling from the capital was sort of a self when the accident occurred the engine and three of the carriages came off the tracks rescue teams were working at the site but the cause of the roman was not yet. for the start of court a sentence of paramilitary soldier to death over the killing of a young man in june the incident that occurred in the city of karachi was caught on videotape and broadcast on national television he died later of his wounds six

other men were also accused in the teenager's death and were handed life in prison because in provoked public anger and increased complaints over be brutality of pakistan's security forces. student protests have exploded into violence in the chin in capital santiago protesters demanding government funded education were seen hitting police cars with sticks and throwing rocks at offices and mass demonstrations started two months ago when president pinera announced plans to cut spending on education rebuffed demands by students telling them nothing is free in this life someone has to pay. the government in hungary has adopted a controversial new media control law critics say it represents a full scale assault from the freedom of press and result in hundreds of journalists being laid off the result sara firth reports despite fierce opposition many have been forced into silence of affairs of job security.

will speak no evil at least not about the hunt carrying government opinion since hungry is a new media low claim there are journalists being silent. it's about hiding things and hiding the truth and not covering diversity issues. of the government that's the whole message of this of this law giving broadcast print and online content because. also with stablished any media authority say the days when working for the media regulator. by the ruling party and loyal support is being selected its public service broadcasting is completely controlled by the government there had been some measure of the office and they put. people loyal to the government into key positions that public public t.v. and media channels journalists he voiced criticism have felt the wrath of the new

authorities say they were journalists of the public radio and. the media was introduced they have one minute silence in the national radio. a suspended and then one of them. left the radio. in effect he was dismissed and the other one was fired hundreds of others have suffered the same fate with the wave of layoffs across the industry this is contributed to an uneasy situation in the media here and want to keep their jobs. of line so murky the shakeups a good thing and that the layoffs in a very inflated public media sector has been long. this government has not only talking and been talking about it but they have laid the people off because they saw that it is unsustainable. so i think. this debate has become.

very politicized it's more about politics than about professional commerce. if something is also a stain a bore you have to cut costs that the day has been strongly contested many talented journalists have found themselves and the job. is not just. the. recent firings and uncertainty about the implications of the new law just some of the recent events the cool thing serious concerns about hungary's democratic. every democracy government needs an independent media so if this government thinks that it can oversee the whole media it can influence the whole media it can regulate the

media it's very. very bad ground but heavy criticism from both within the country and internationally the government is sticking by the new media laws and the changes they could bring could be start to radically transform the face of hungary's media so. that a path. well summer time in moscow is perfect for outdoor activities we're really enjoying spectacular weather here at the moment moscow a lot of managers know exactly how to keep fit and stay cool in the heat. that was absolutely brilliant careful not to crush. well i just love the summer

here in moscow. moscow out coming your way in about eight minutes from now here on out in the meantime it's the latest business news we've been the tree. thanks bill the most volatile trading we can see three years ended on a positive note in russia the markets closed up for the second day in a row after the negative finish of the previous six sessions peter weston from out on says unlike the crisis of two thousand and eight market players are now better positioned to weather the storm. the good thing is that even though we were down a lot it didn't seem like there were panic selling i think that investors were much better prepared this time around than they were in two thousand and eight the fall it's been quite a significant a very equally significant on

a daily basis in the beginning of the week but i think you know because it was so much bad news out of europe and us so much speculation about first down with what they're going to happen of the credit rating but more bad news out of europe of speculation about the next country to basically be in trouble over its sovereign debt invest it had time to position themselves in a better way for the downturn so in other words they moved slightly more into defensive sectors when the downturn came and then they did when they were selling out a few clients i spoke to were you know were selling part of what their holdings if they were reducing russia. but they were not sort of selling in panic. an effort to stabilize the market for european nations have banned short selling on banks france italy spain and belgium are prohibited bets which allow investors to profit from falls on the price of financial stocks the move follows high volatility in the sector amid fears about their exposure to euro zone government debt david jones market strategist at a.g. index believes this will only provide short term relief. and that's helping the

markets today we've got for example here in london barclays is one of the top prizes in the dice and we are seeing strength in banks but it is like history repeating itself we've got a similar levels of volatility we had three years ago in september two thousand and eight there was widespread short selling bans but over the next month financial markets still dropped another fifteen to twenty percent so again traders in europe at least so far are back convinced the short selling bans necessary to change anything. second how the markets are doing right now in the u.s. they are positive that solved through a strong recovery on day two and data sharing consumer confidence has fallen sharply to fifty four point nine points its lowest level in thirty years therefore . european markets fell immediately after the opening but so worth climbing by the end of the search and to reach three percent in positive territory at the close of

the same amount gaining on the latest french economic growth figures are a cause for concern as they showed years and the second biggest economy was stagnant in the second quarter and the footsie and the dax up three and a half percent dax almost six thousand points to look at the closing figures for russia and also a very positive note after a week of extreme volatility b.o.t.s. is up three point two percent of my six point two percent is a snapshot of the market moves on the my six apart from unlike other energy stocks lukoil was. just point three percent worse than the market the company boosted its net profit by fifty percent of the year reaching seven point two billion dollars but that did not provide strong support for another well company was never was much better off four point four percent meanwhile private gas producer nov attack was up one percent also worse than the markets however its profits net profits rose one hundred twenty percent in the second quarter of. an oil prices are stabilizing in

positive territory light sweet is up seventy two cents brant one hundred eight dollars sixty one cents this is a confidence comes back into the markets and investors are shifting to a more riskier assets such as senator. revenues industrial production in russia rose were five percent the first seven months of the year that was below forecast for adoption however was among the fastest growing sectors up sixty four percent say expects the annual production growth to reach five point four percent and that's up from this edition of the business news on r.t. we will be back with one final friday update in around fifty five minutes time bill is next with.

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top stories this hundreds of british vigilantes move to protect their streets from troublemakers communities across england accuse the police are doing too little too late joined the recent destructive wave of unrest. a court rules two americans can sue former u.s. defense secretary donald rumsfeld over the alleged torture in iraq this is american propaganda machine to entice more youngsters into the forces. and journalists are outraged and hungry of renewed all that could effectively silence critics of the government they feel in the legislation and dangerous press freedom and the very notion of democracy. well we've got another update from fifteen minutes from now in the meantime as promised on moscow our team shows you the best places to take a break during moscow's summer heat on the outskirts of the capital.