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the owner of fox news has used that drone so should private companies be allowed to use these machines or to open yet another door to spy address it isn't right for that topic and from the. length. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so sleek you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realized everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm sorry welcome to the big picture of. the world we are the lead and yet. the lead lead . for.
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are dissatisfied told on war and tonight it goes to gretchen carlson over at fox and friends now the former beauty queen foreign journalist was on fox news last night previewing the g.o.p. debate and she was asked what question would you ask the candidates in the debate if you were moderate so just listen to gretchen's a very very hard hitting question. as president how important would it be for you to address the political correctness in our society many argue is totally out of control from the war on christmas to leaving the word god out of the pledge of allegiance to not calling the alleged fort hood shooter what he is a homegrown muslim terrorist how is that harmful moving forward for our nation.
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that's right gretchen actually wants to ask about the war on christmas too bad the war on christmas only exists on fox news nobody else gives a damn or even knows that it is out there now unfortunately even fox knows not to let gretchen and her coxon friend co-host steve doocy and brian kilmeade anywhere near a presidential debate which is kind of a shame when you think about it the gretchen's hard hitting question about christmas got us thinking about a more perfect world where fox and friends would have hosted a presidential debate i just wonder what questions they would ask we better they would spend some serious time getting the candid views on a whole host of issues and i'm thinking that some child rearing and discipline questions would definitely be in the top. he said quote get away from me you and then a word that starts with i say one hundred percent pepper spray you do. some parenting classes as well if you're a police officer tell me can you take down an eight year old that pepper spray i think you should yes absolutely all right in my book it's called discipline coming
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up next we already know aggression banks are purse bring an eight year old that's just plain old discipline now of course pots and friends would also want to canvass views on climate change and why that liberal sponge bob square pants is a darker indoctrinating the children of america. the government agency showed kids this cartoon in canada books that blame man for global warming but they did not tell kids that that is actually a disputed fact hopes. and after asking hard hitting questions about sponge bob fox and friends it would finally turn to more serious issues facing the u.s. like race relations here we go and this is this you've got to see to believe this we're talking about crayola changing the colors of the rainbow instead call them close of the cultures politically sensitive crayons. all right so we just played you all those clips to prove a point fox and friends is not news it's a comedy hour case in point is gretchen carlson and a crazy question about the supposed war on christmas and that's why we're getting
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our tonight's thought on a war. now the pentagon and its super secret division darpa had been working on another unmanned aerial device and they're very proud of their baby the falcon hypersonic technology vehicle two so when the defense department tested their newest project they wanted to make sure that everybody knew about it. the defense department claims the second test for a super fast aircraft that can fly at a blistering speed of thirteen thousand miles per hour or twenty times the speed of sound if everything goes as planned the pentagon would be gifted with a lightning fast to be a goal capable of delivering a military strike anywhere in the world in less than an hour to give you that's right biz that boy boasts all sorts of stats that would just make your jaw drop tell darko was so confident even tweeted the entire testing process except the h t v two didn't do very well in fact just a few minutes after taking off for tweet it range assets of the last elementary age
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t.v. two more to follow and reports show the signal was lost on the mac twenty missile and it crashed into the ocean and i understand this is a common occurrence for military testing it isn't always work but this was the second test of the h.g.v. threw the first one fell into the water even faster than this one bit not to mention a series of testing with the wind tunnel took place between the two flight tests so surely the pentagon was quite unhappy with all their testing proved to be so unsuccessful but you want to know what the price tag on this defense project was a mere three hundred eight million dollars which let's be honest i say standards is chump change when it comes to military spending after all we told you just a short while ago the government's joint strike fighter program has become one of the d.o.d.'s largest investments and estimated trillion dollar investments but mechanical problems have rid of the program and of left after twenty two and f. thirty five fleets grounded until further notice in our report from danger room even says that pilots for the f. twenty two could lose their clearance and despite the fact that f.
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twenty two s and f. thirty five were both grounded for a slew of mechanical problems the pentagon just signed another contract. for even more than thirty five's with lockheed martin and that price tag is it five hundred and thirty five million dollars now the waste is just jaw dropping the i understand the testing these designs is a crucial elements of the development process when these projects are millions of dollars a piece i'd suggest maybe i don't know of more conservative approach so now i guess we know why panetta and president obama are so against taking money from their defense budget they needed to continue their work on the jets and the drones and all these missiles that don't even work who cares about cutting medicare and other necessary social programs we've got to make sure the d.o.d. has the coolest toys on the planet. well now let's talk about some of those toys drones unmanned aerial devices are used by our military and our cia in pakistan yemen and somalia drones are also used on our borders both north and the south and law enforcement agencies across a number of states are working their hands on getting them to but this year it was
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reported by the observer that news corp's the daily also had a drone and that in fact sent it out a few times to get news footage of alabama after devastating storms hit there and in north dakota after floods so if news corp can get a drone can anybody any news organization any private company well that's the exact question that our guest tonight has been trying to figure out joining me from our studio in new york is kashmir hill staff writer at forbes katherine i want to thank you so much for joining us tonight and i know that you have been digging into this trying to get to the bottom of the whole story fairly it's a no go for commercial use of drones at this point but when you asked the f.a.a. about news corp drone in particular what do they tell you. they were surprised by the use of the drone news corp when i first they kind of. asked whether a hobbyist have flown the drone and given the footage to the daily and i said no this is a drone that the daily owens and after i told them about they said that they're actually going to be launching an investigation to see whether their use was legal
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or not how do we have any idea how the daily actually got their hands on this drone i mean is it that easy to go out and buy one at this point you can buy drones it's not a legal to buy a drone the only question of legality is in how you use it so you can't get the kind of drone that the daily has on amazon so you can get a smaller three hundred dollar one that you can you can fly for i phone or you can buy drones right now the only and these are supposed to be using drones are governments law enforcement you know public actors at this point it's really hard for a private entity to use a drone for business purposes and you say it's really hard but it's not impossible or at least some exceptions that are made licenses are certificates that are given out. and you can always send your drone up and the question is whether you have the correct authorization to do that this is really tightly regulated by the f.a.a.
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right now because they're worried about. having. vehicles in the airspace so in order to fly a drone you have to get a certificate of authorization from the f.a.a. at this point they've only given out a few hundred and they've given less than one hundred to private cities in the case of private and it's usually a university that's doing it for research purposes or a drone maker that's going to find the drones to train pilots but at this point the news organizations can't really buy drones and just send them up to you know check out brangelina walking around or even take footage of disaster areas well what do you think about that do you think that news organizations should be able to send a drone now you mention of course brangelina and the whole paparazzi aspect which i imagine would be a privacy concern at least for celebrities out there but what about the idea you know news organizations being able to go and film disaster areas or whatever else
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might be necessary. i think there are a lot of valid uses for drones and right now in the u.s. drones are being used in really interesting ways i mean california uses them when they're fighting forest fires. as you said they're flying them over over the borders and so i can imagine some great uses of drones for looking at disaster areas. but i also know that. the agencies are really interested in drones and are waiting for the f.a.a. to loosen up airspace so that they can be used this way and the f.a.a. is planning on allowing greater use of drones they're just trying to figure out how how to do this in a way that it's not being used and you know privacy in basic ways or to follow celebrities around why just curious are they really worried about how it might be used in privacy invasive ways because at the same time aren't they ready to change some of their regulations so that law enforcement agencies all across the u.s. can also now get their hands on drones i feel like that would bring up quite
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a few constitutional issues well there are to be a few state law enforcement agencies that are using drones texas there's already use drones in a few raids florida colorado and a few other states have actually searched the certificates of authorization to use drones but in order to actually use them for a particular purpose they have to get these emergency certificates of authorization and those are a little bit difficult but at this point there are law enforcement agencies are drones. i don't know if i should be happy about that or if i should be scared about that but it looks like right now drones are here to stay but do let us know if you hear more from the f.a.a. in terms of news corp and how they managed to skirt around the issue to get their hands on a drone cashmere thank you so much for joining us tonight thank you. now still ahead tonight fireside friday and a sad week so let's have a happy hour what do you think is the most hated person in america and plus our
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only small town fame goal of producing real americans play back i'm just a month. into it only a military mechanism to do the work of how to bring justice or. i have every right to know what my government would want to know why i pay taxes. but i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for life complete you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear see some other part of it and realize that everything is ok if you don't i'm trying hard look at the big picture.
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to tonight's by inside your home. and let's get back to a topic that i bring up constantly on this show and for which we keep seeing more and more examples it's the spin the military and intelligence officials in this country use to try to paint our wars abroad as successful and we saw just this week with the military claiming that they got the exact guy that shot down a u.s. helicopter in afghanistan which took the lives of thirty u.s. service members now did they get some taliban yes do i believe that they know the exact taliban fighter that held the r.p.g. even though they haven't even determined yet if it even was an r.p.g.
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that took the helicopter down well sorry but that would be a no but it has to be noted how they use this concept of revenge and trying to appease americans make them think that it's all ok yes the war has been going on for ten years and thousands of american lives of the lost but hey we got this guy back to do and she worry and for some reason the pentagon the cia this administration they refuse to acknowledge that our actions make others want revenge as well the bay and up creating more militants and one result of those actions that spoke about least probably matters most and that civilian deaths the anytime the innocent civilians are caught in the crossfire see their friends their families their neighbors perish do you think there we action is going to be thank god for the americans absolutely not who perhaps may. the even more bad even worse is the lack of honesty the lack of transparency of mark visuals about the damage that is caused and here's a perfect example obama's counterterrorism adviser john brennan recently made the
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claim that because of the exceptional proficiency the precipitation of the capabilities that we've been able to develop there hasn't been a single collateral death for almost a year now the precision capabilities that he's talking about our use of unmanned drones to strike targets or the man or woman pushing the button so it's thousands of miles away not a single collateral debt that would be something with it so the problem is as the new york times documented as a day that it just doesn't seem to add up especially not if you read accounts from pakistani journalists or from british journalists now we told you just a few weeks ago about the new report from the british bureau of investigative journalism found at least forty five people have died in ten strikes during the last year and of course you can say that you have to take any thinkers from pakistani officials with a grain of salt because it's in their interest to beat those numbers up but it's one thing to have a skeptical eye it's another thing entirely to ignore those reports as our
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mainstream media does well it so obediently swallows up every single word the people of john brennan and david petraeus may say now the real problem here is it so journalists even asked for clarification the new york times did it in this case to their credit and guess what john brennan then told them that u.s. officials could not confirm any deaths he reported it a little bit but you see it's one thing not to be able to confirm any deaths because you can actually look into that it's another thing entirely to sell the american public a number that can't be confirmed as fact but that big flashing zero just seems so sexy so hard to resist and since the cia treats us all like ignorant fools and has the ability to simply not talk about its drone program as if it doesn't even exist oh probably never know the truth and that's a big problem. not only because they use these false figures to keep our war in afghanistan and pakistan going but because they'll continue to use them to spread the technology all over the world we've got drones in pakistan in yemen we're using
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them in somalia and you think that it's going to stop their dream on now the problem here is that thanks to the secrecy to the inability for people to properly check they'll keep selling drones is the answer to all of our woes that magic technology that lets us strike from far away and only get the bad guy that's and is this technology incredible precise compared to what else our military has yes but it's far from perfect so before you know it not only will be drones being used all over the world we'll start selling them to other countries those so called perfect weapons are going to be hit and the people who will lose are the countless civilians that will be killed or injured innocent victims who get stuck in the crossfire and whose deaths will continue to be hidden from public view you know some are suggesting that the cia not only make their strikes public but may even post videos of them i don't know if that's the answer and i'd rather not be any drone strikes but what i do know is that not questioning our military and
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intelligence officials not pressing them for the truth that's a big mistake we could make. ok it's friday and it's time for happy hour so joining me this evening is r t correspondent lauren lyster and derek thompson senior editor at the atlantic thanks for joining me guy you ok so we were just talking about the g.o.p. debate from last night all the presidential candidates maybe rick perry is going to join in the race sarah pailin nobody really knows at this point of course her bus made a convenience stop in iowa this weekend but she has released a new ad out there about her bus tour and. take a look. brighter and therms we grow good people in our small towns.
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near the mines some of them work in america. all right it's not like there are good people they come from small towns and do some of the hardest working american they only come from small towns like you but live in cities are good people we don't do hard work that's not the one i would be attracted to her bus to or anything having to do with sarah palin this isn't democrat the republican party and even when rick perry came out today with his i think it was a preview of the speech he's going to make the upcoming week to announce the presidency and he says you know america america's future isn't going to come from cities it's going to come from washington it's going to come from the great plains and from middle america and i don't understand republicans have against offices office buildings in cities but that's how they want to know exactly what you just really areas based in those offices and city who is based there i missed what you say the job creators that republicans want to cut taxes for exactly i don't know it's just all baloney if you ask me right but the cities are really populated this
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is where the majority of americans actually live this is where life goes on and we have people here too i guess this is now and see the most republican. i don't know good luck to them with that one good but still at it i mean her movie theaters were empty when her documentary showed and she's still you know what now you see that is exactly why she still had it right i mean assure her and she's attention she's not just really running for president she's running to get you know a certain share because she's just like i think she can help and i think she she has to go to iowa even if she's not interested in running for president because she just has to be in the mix and get some of the attention i think she's addicted she's crossed that threshold into celebrity if you ask me and that's it there's no turning back for her. but now let's move on to i don't know if you guys came up with the answer is we're thinking long and hard before the show there is a poll out who did it market research and i am. people who are the most hated person in america was you guys have most hated person let's do it after week after
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you know i can't hear someone say. well this might give you a clue. but let me just. bring tonight. i'm sorry any excuse that i get simply because. i have to the devil is dancing tonight i think she might be one of my least favorite people in america enough to go far as far as hate but definitely oh she rubs me the wrong way but it turns out actually the most hated person in america according to this poll right now is casey anthony big surprise she really the worst person in america are there other people she just got the most publicity for someone that you would hate right second was that right i mean i don't know if that was their strengths or pratt was on the back to. those babies is a crime against humanity maybe i don't know what are we thinking about people that i hate i really don't hate anybody but one person i certainly resent i think might be asked and i'm not sure i completely understand i was career is so successful
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because even the usually a lot of twitter followers he thought it was actually my job right now seventy thousand dollars per episode i should have thought sure but that's one reason why it isn't that you have a good point and no no i have a i think we have a good point when it comes to his acting chops which do not deserve that much money but at the same time he hasn't pretty smart because he caught on to a lot of these new tech companies before everybody else did he invested in them he's kind of riding the wave maybe you know ahead of it i guess you could say when it comes to technology i love returning to love you and what you're to segment about hater he will do your anybody did. all the evil i hate the mainstream media for making casey anthony so well known that ninety four percent of the people that knew her hated her the most. ok so i committed and grace is probably the person most responsible for that now if they want to something i guess you can say is a little more serious or i don't know love first let's take
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a look at this clip that describes who we're talking about. their development in the caves. now answered. a wall american soldier who was arrested after f.b.i. agents will bomb making material in his hotel room. all right so apparently what they also found was that this guy had a porn and apparently i guess it turned out to be child porn wishes you know gross put so somebody decided to make the connection it's jennifer bryson from the witherspoon institute now wrote a thing about terrorism and porn because of course osama bin ladin got him and they went into his compound they found that he had a huge porn stash and so this is the argument she make she said given how widespread the viewing of pornography is today if the direct result of each individual's pornography use were terrorist violence one could conceivably argue that pornography proliferation would pose a more widespread threat to human existence the nuclear proliferation so she's basically saying that porn is encouraging terrorists to to be more violent and be
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terrorists because porn is so much more grotesque these days just every man be a terrorist i mean isn't it just that all of these militants or people engaging in these activities are not shocking to me that they happen to possess or and do i think it's a copy of your you've heard it pornography is widespread but it correlates highly with actually everything it's like oxygen it's like saying oh well everybody who's committed a terrorist attack appears to have two lungs and is breathing oxygen therefore it seems clear to me that the breathing of oxygen might be more dangerous than the. city because they like to be more like oxygen of a nerve every. let your eyes her last story for at a time riots in london and now this is the london mayor boris johnson talking about how they're cracking down on people. police you see some of the results the moment the rich deep emotional does not continue to happen. because
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much those people would receive very severe sentence. ok so there obviously are people that were looting in vandalizing and it's still a lot of things and we're burning property and they deserve to be punished but twenty three year old student with no previous convictions was given the maximum permitted six months of jail time after stealing bottles of water i think that's a little much because you know they're going to have some problems if they're going to do this everybody because you saw you guys remember the pink floyd adoptive son there are some pink floyd his adopted son got sixteen months for protesting at a student protest. i mean it doesn't make much of a family i question attention if you were to the same time it's pretty clear that what the governor wants to do they don't know who's causing all of these riots they don't knows who is behind all the burnings so what you do is you make an extreme example of a few people who you do know have committed crimes it's not just this case i mean i got a record of guys sorry but i think that the net makes for joining me tonight are back there for tonight's show thanks for tuning in to make sure you can back on monday
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