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talking about you with the law for moscow with me to see trey recapping our top stories calls for israelis nationwide to join the country's biggest social protest and grow louder make promises to become another record breaking all of us some in tel aviv say the demonstration is our only president benefiting the privileged. tons of rhetoric between police and politicians in the u.k. as david cameron slams offices for the full handling of st bob and sunny instead to
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the u.s. for advice because working day and night now and heavy patrols are in the streets to deal with the consequences of looting and rioting throughout the. rumors of insider trading and an accounting error worth two trillion of dollars leave the standard and poor's a rating agency facing a vengeful washington inquiry even if world markets continue to shift following the unprecedented u.s. debt downgrade all right so my colleague old altera often i was talking about for now it's like. for the full slate we've got it for. the biggest issues get a human voice face to face with the news makers. hello again and welcome to spotlight the interview show and party i'll bring up and play
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my guest is me three more like. the simpsons has become so popular in the united states it made it to the big screen but only few people know that this typical american family actually has roots so are several other super popular animated show in the u.s. house of the south are the russians still coming or they're already there we're asking the simpsons are death and it in my life. was a part of the award winning any missions to your cold pilot but after the fall of the soviet union he moved to america only to help create the country's best animated cartoons he joined his friend and colleague david going off another tale of russian and costly animation studio together they created one of the most successful animated cartoon how the ninety's called rug rats the movie has also been our director for the simpsons movie and the television serious the simpsons.
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the show thank you thank you very much for being with us well first of all even russia as we just heard you worked in the best cartoon studio that that we had at that time and maybe maybe that. still is so why did you decide to move and start working in the u.s. for economic reasons for for political reasons certainly not political ones. probably the canonical reason so at the time at ninety four i was part of the job for probably more than a year i was twenty it was already willing economically so when i got the invitation from the president of the class kinship will govern and. insisted. on having me over there so i gladly accepted his
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invitation and at the time it was just invitation to come over for a year probably and to see if i like it or not and we'll go from there was a decision and we. went to los angeles. one year past another one and i'm still there. it makes make stuff which is pretty different from what you were making when you were working here in russia and they knew that so why do you think what if you have an opinion on this matter what do you think they decided to invite you do wanted they wanted you to somehow change the the the the image of the face of the. american cartoons or what. i believe the reason was that since our children and his wife eileen claussen they started their own studio basically in the bedroom of therapy martin and that's how
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they started the series. so probably governor's business model was to. i have a studio which is not like any other studio so our he wanted constant revision of the protocols the fresh blood and him being an artist himself he really liked the. gradient and what soviet animation. he was a huge fan of it so all he constantly infused fresh blood from western europe i believe that was the reason and at the time of that was pretty successful. later his policy changed he lost a little bit an interest in animation itself. and the studio started to stalin it will be. technically official it still exists but it started the business well let's take a look at some of the recent russian animation success stories in
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a report by spotlighting in a good meeting. impressionist painting is moving better how well xander petrov's cartoons are often described the artist is drawn when released fingertips on gloss that the clinic brought him international recognition and the highest possible award an oscar russian cartoons have lately been more often nominated for the cademy awards than russian morris the latest nominee was a simplistic black and white animation by constantine brown's eat and although the oscar ski team that runs it can still go through at least twenty international awards for this cup to lose what might make russian animation particular interest into western audiences is their idea of the clicks and which got tunes argonne during the times of the soggy tuna russian animation industry enjoyed substantial state support which allowed for creativity and the russian petunias had to go
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through harsh adaptation to market economy rules their creativity survived it was demonstrated to the full in the ninety nine days when in moscow animations to do question as did the series well known has been made it shakespeare for the b.b.c. . adaptations of shakespeare's plays produced using different animation techniques injured international success. russia's biggest commercial success and then nation so far is this you response me shari king the popularity of brutal around belly characters is so huge that it is season was made to distribute the good to an international. student real pride of russian animation and non commercial projects . like the recently released perigord in stop motion the ugly duckling with tchaikovsky's music as the soundtrack for you should make in soft money our current
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would be made of the wall destruction cartoon making company so use my film. and i think you are the best people to ask what's the main difference between russian and american approaches to emissions well old examples what we just saw. we can talk about success when. those are really deeply individual pieces in play great artists and. they're good at the words. kill mass production of the same episode of the same kind of episode like we've got that we've got to witness our cultural generation is really great and that is great only and mainly because of that he does what he feels he has to do and exactly the way. he feels it has to be done i can easily imagine that if it was. really
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on a production level you episode every several weeks could be so much different so of course. authors of festival kind of animation is way much different from. their mission which is done for kryten networks and there are so so many of them i've talked to a number of people working working in animation and this is strange they usually not the not the people working in the movies the people working in proteins and russia say here they have more freedom then they would have had in their colleagues have people like you who work for big studios in the west do you agree it's probably probably again it really depends on the project because there are projects. where a certain level of freedom is really welcome but again only
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a certain level when we talk about russian emitters working on their own pieces which we do not targeted directly to bring commercial success the more freedom is the budgetary while that's always you know necessity is mother of invention so yeah when you. have a lot of limitations you really have to be extremely in with inventive so that really pushes you to words more and more creativity you said you said if he petra had to do an episode every week yes are you envious to people that you don't have to do an episode every week would you prefer to work this way rather than during commercially successful and i i had a chance to compare working on the mass production. imation and on like
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really individual. festival oriented pieces by. coast from creative standpoint it's much more interesting and. there are really no boundaries for creativity on the project the problem is that they happen like once every five years. they last for six months they didn't play much or so. well yet you project like it was happening every other month i would be static about that but it just cannot happen we we we are of the same generation you remember like in the seventy's i think the serious union. appeared but curtains for the adults theme of love the curtain for adults and this was something you need to do you think this is that it could have curtains for children for help but snow white and the seven dwarfs i watched the other day i
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think it's for absolutely for adults and only for the kids love it. good animation of course you know if it's all the edges. i i really don't like this approach when sometimes a lot of owners been caught because there's all inspiration this is for kids it has to be simple it has to be. maybe not that much you know creative ever again it would be extremely simple because kids are rather stupid and they don't understand the difference between good and really good so it can be simple i don't buy into this theory so if. animation piece is done for kids but. it's nothing but a great effort and creativity everybody's going to like it because in america it is extremely important even when the project is oriented towards the kids kids not going to go to the theater by themselves they're going to go with parents so it
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is very important so that the parents not to get bored in the first fifteen minutes and want to work on the theater so they want to have those parents stay throughout the movie so it has to have some elements which will be of interest and of interest to the parents as well but at last they have somebody who understands me because i have to go to the movies with my son and when i have well when i have to go i have to go and watch with them movies like avatar and he he's excited about it i mean i mean i can't stand this is too much for me but there are movies i agree that there are great for kids and edible edible for adults and this is this i think great ok we're talking to dmitri milan that you just remind me he's the i'd our director of the simpsons movie spotlight will be back shortly we'll talk more about his work in a minute after a break so don't go. wealthy
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british scientists like. dr. margetts weiner scandal. find out what's really happening to the global economy and cause a report on our t.v. . welcome back to spotlight time algren often just reminded of my guest in the studio today is the meet the milan each of the art director of the simpsons movie and also
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he worked on the rug rats movie that's from yes. what you made the simpsons the series you made it into a full size widescreen movie what was the hardest part of the on working on that because we all we all are used to some sort of being like a series like like like like little nothing like a smile that said but you know what what was it wasn't really hard but it was really hard because two main challenges were about first of all of course translate the format which is familiar to a majority of pay audience been seen on a twenty inch screen and then you have to splash it over a hundred feet of those and screen in the movie theater and if you will just about. projected on such
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a huge screen it's not going to hold up to the. just in physics of human vision because we too much if you will color and it's going to work with really flat line because it also the technique that the technique of your drawing it's. all their protection is going to be visible so you have to use a lot of enhanced moments to basically fill out that it was up to us as an object to change it to come up with ideas but the second challenge which pretty much cancels out the first challenge was to make it in such a way so that nobody would notice it again simpsons is such an icon are in american culture are you do not treat it with such a freedom so that it changes its look and starts to look like something different that was the main goal of the creators of the movie not to make it like a one huge extended episode but it has to it had to stay true to the origins of the
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t.v. series and what about another thing did you did you ask yourself a question is anybody going to go to the movies and why a ticket to watch this for two hours to know that they now had i had no dog out there no i had no doubt at all. the biggest challenge was you know no in that it's the patients are so high is what the expectation is is not to disappointed not to do this again the biggest fear was that it would look just overly extended t.v. episode and. we just you know had no right to make that mistake so the stakes were really high. and this year expects the rate of success where will the movie. though it wasn't just about just not disillusioning people in the disappointed but it was real success was that yes
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while i was seriously i was certainly hoping for that i was surprised quite a bit that it's all. i have read in one of the incentives that grants one of the american papers that you worked so hard and you were so much market pride. when you worked in that movie that you were sort of depressed after it's all finished after the work was terminated is that true while not depressed probably is not the right word. yes. it's human nature you're getting used to extremely high pressure pretty much you know becomes your. way of life the way of thinking you start thinking yellow. seno in your dreams or nightmares so when the whole thing stops it
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really is very abrupt and bizarre feeling because the world goes back to what it used to move. you need some time. to adapt to that because but you described it the work work and this and this piece you described you have i was working under restrictive conditions i think very restrictive wildish are one of those that was mostly in the very beginning of the project because of course we started working on a project and the script was not still there it was changing changing pretty much on a daily basis and our creators they didn't quite know what to do a with visuals of the movie it was not their main concern at the point so they wanted something by they didn't quite know what they want at some point the consensus on their side was that it's probably going to be safer just to go
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with what we used to have for the t.v. series and not do anything because again we start tampering with it and we'll lose some i think the city of the show and we might lose something it's not going to be quite the same as it used to be. and that was a little bit. stands for quite sometime later one of the actually they were way too busy with the visuals and that was a really blessing in disguise because they just forgot even to think about the way the movie is going to look so at that time i was pretty much free to come up with solutions that i can go and offer it to them and they were really happy about. lots of russians work and movies in the united states lots of russians in hollywood. but
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we never see them working as a t.v. i mean as a russian teen. it occurred to me when i when i read about these sciences the guys are good nobel prize and physically see they have a russian floor hole the whole floor or all the rooms they're all russians were there oh this is the russians oh yeah but it doesn't happen in movies in the united states why russians represent the great school cinematography why don't you flock together why don't you work as a team because because you quoted you wanted to want to make american movies in america or because the producers try to keep your point and not the cheer and not let you fly i but i wouldn't say that there is a there is an attempt to really spread people around depending on their ethnicity actually at the class teacher paul there was some moment where a group of three or four maybe five russians were working together as a team but. i don't know it just might serve ation probably it's not very welcome
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to have people of the same cultural group be in a locked out from from the rest because initially well i guess that in the action movie since the same communication is the key it's extremely important to communicate with all the other people and when the people start to being locked out and being they isolated in a small group of their own something the goes wrong communication wise that usually is a really bad science so you think that you have to keep keep it multicultural and yes we're giving back to cartoons nickelodeon a great channel a great a great. market for for for a cartoon do you think russia needs a channel like that absolutely absolutely and. of course from my not indicating standpoint or russia desperately needs an immediate we do have the
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content you know that that's the problem because there's there's tons of content like imported content. nickelodeon d.n.a. and there's thousands of projects which could easily fill out the space on the such channels i strongly believe that russia needs its own content nickelodeon has a very very strict requirements for animators for example they don't allow cartoons events of the past is that is that true why that used to be policy i don't know are because when i was describing the situation in one of my interviews that was the end of ninety's quite likely this. time this policy has changed at that point that yes that was one of the rules which were not carved in stone but we've been told several times that some projects that i was working on and let's
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say all the events were taking place in a like seventeenth century. nickelodeon advise does not to do so because they prepared to have. all the action take place in either in our present time or in the future. you call it eagle colorado said in one of his interviews i quote i like to draw like children do in primitive thick nice what do you think makes such technique. so so so tracked for contemporary artists in animation while our ego is very strong artists and. yeah you might wish that he will drop like a kid even though he really admires the drawings that my daughter made when she was three years old he still has a few of them are his war. kids they they think different they have their different
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they have such a freedom in their life and at the same time they are not burdened with the years of training in their lives and not to stray that were really thought out they just draw from heart and that but probably eager means because he wants to make you sorry you know really coming from your soul and from your heart the way kids do it isn't the reason why my son when he was about three four five years of age he did wonderful drawings i have them as you said on the wall but now he's like eleven and they and they try to teach him to draw school and he's awfully he i mean he's worse than anybody i've ever seen the same happened to my daughter i was absolutely sure that i have a genius on my hands because she was doing absolutely amazing the romans when she was like three fighting like your all it's freedom yeah they lose their freedom because he has several years passed and all you could see you know those princes.
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you know little dragons and extremely stiff. is that it does not mean that an artist a true artist is the man that somebody who managed to sustain his to keep his freedom while growing up. yes of course even going to see him since you know simpson is becoming bigger louder brighter because huge change even from technical standpoint and thirty six ten point happened about two years ago when the show was switch the high definition format. again the typical normal t.v. screen in the average american household it's not a twenty inch tube anymore it's like a fifty inch plasma so a lot of information has to fill out the screen so what it transitioned to the high definition show became much more sophisticated visual wise yet at the same time i
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have really strong the style jar for the very first years of simpsons when it was really clumsy crude and naive. and beautiful at the same time it was not so clearly drawn perspective. it was not sophisticated yet it had a really strong sense of passion which was coming from the creators thank you thank you very much for being with us and just a reminder that my guest in the studio today was neatly maligned chief our director of the simpsons movie and also the rug rats that's it for now from all of us here if you don't tell yourself apart like just drop me a line we'll get back with more first time comments on what's going on in and outside this country until then stay on r.t. and take care.
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