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welcome back here with the live from moscow now in the headlines this week cracks appeared between politicians and police riots in the u.k. we had both prime minister david cameron turn to us experience for help while fed up local communities turns a vigilantes. three years on south ossetia remembers the victims of a short but bloody conflict when georgia launched an offensive to reclaim its old territories hundreds died in the ensuing five day war and the republic is still trying to recover. u.s.
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regulators declare war on the ratings agencies after america's long treasury debt school gets the charter sent world markets into a catholic tumble. all right so coming up next here on us here we follow the journey of two colombians as they try to find the truth behind the deaths of their relatives in a mysterious military operation it's the second part of our special report on what's. really needed. to be given to get on the phone when going to be. followed. as you can see. court an old agency of colombia state fights all armed groups with the same zeal. that the let's say.
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the. term positive is let's say a colombian one insisted it consists of assassinating a person. killing innocent victims. from the city rejects them outcasts are enticed with job offers both legal and illegal they are quickly recruited are recruited here taken to other areas of the country and murdered they take them from own region to another they dress them up as warriors after killing them like guerilla fighters i make it seem like they died in combat because they passed them
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off as fighters killed in battle then they tell us they were guerrillas who died in combat that's why they are known as positive a. lot of people i got here until and i wasn't sure he was dead i was sitting right here when i asked my mother. replied i think. it's important who did he go off with this is my son she got away with another woman but she told me he'd been found dead but it was tough but i said i couldn't believe it until i saw him i wouldn't believe it it's a lawless act. secure or form of torture but it is carried out according to this procedure therefore it's because entered as a positive result but it conceals a breach of the law the front of it with
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a message not the false was positive those are killings committed by law enforcers and both of the killings or past successes in the colombian internal conflicts which the government denies and simply present as a fight against terrorism forgotten. in december a quarter later of what tech a investigative police envoy. informed me that something serious had happened to alexander he said he wanted to see me. he told me alexander had died on september seventeenth at five am. in chief or by a jury a clash with the army. i think it's part of what i once called the cater ship of the positive within the police forces
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. that by that i mean that the instrument the barometer to measure the effectiveness and the results of the police forces is the number of positive. cases we have registered between january two thousand and seven and june two thousand and eight are five hundred thirty five unlawful executions reported to our organizations. at first there was a decree known as the cap to creep relating to rewards for operations of national importance. and that. in other words troop members were given significant sums of money if they shot individuals who were thought to be guerillas . what the country wasn't told is that the wanted to create was revoked a secret directive was issued that kept the same rewards for every enemy shot. there's have to achieve results their careers are sest according to performance if
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they've got nothing to show that they have to be created. by repeating the government's firm will to achieve a country without a will as well paramilitaries or drug trafficking or corruption. of. the you. know. the minute the you. to. me they gave me judges number and the josh was doing with the case and i contacted him it was already late so i called him the following morning we arranged to meet
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the next day in the human rights office she was going to meet the representative and invited me to the meeting i said all right i went to i gave my evidence and asked to see the photos she asked me why i wanted to see them and i said i needed to be sure it was really him so he showed me them. i have to stick to my hand the letters c.n.n. which stand for instance in the ira was just as the same to two here. alexander was a year older than me when he died he was thirty one he suffered from a mental disease called bipolar affective disorder he had a son a young boy of mine. he showed me this tattoo. and i just felt that i wanted the ground to open up the moon swallow me. it was so tough. i just put my hands over my mouth and couldn't say anything. he came up to me to
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take back the photo book. interest in the photos were scanned but i told him no sir i'm strong enough to look at them. and serve others your i disappeared from the neighborhood. out about four pm. he was killed the following day eleven hours later at about five am. it was found about one hundred sixty kilometers away when. he left me the posters and i kept looking at them. they'd put an old rifle beside him. and i noticed he had a white t. shirt and a jacket they had given him. alexander was mentally ill he was never in the army he didn't know a thing about weapons and they had placed
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a machine gun beside a really powerful weapon. next to the other boy they put a less powerful gun even though he was good with weapons. he knew everything about weapons how could he have just an old rifle while alexander who was sick someone had a few screws lose how could he have a machine gun. that killed them and they put weapons beside them it's easy. i. wish it was this the. case exploded precisely one month after the defense minister declared september ninth national human rights day in
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wales. he also said that unlawful executions were practically over. and the defense minister told us on september the ninth just over a month ago what follows some continue ignoring reality and they try to sell a force who government policy regarding extrajudicial executions as they improperly caught they use the numbers due diligence in my eyes police forces but when these reports are actually investigated nothing is ever found that. in late september the events in so archer were revealed. these events unearth the truth that can no longer be hidden.
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cases of young people disappearing and so watches i'm found murdered in a kind yard in a suntanned our region of north and inclement were published. it was the last straw. the reports made public the overwhelming m natural reality of false was positive and extrajudicial killings. many people didn't believe it and. it started to become clear that it wasn't just isolated cases but a model the scandal showing the full atrocity of the fossils positivist case finally exploded. i had the opportunity of presenting the problem to president to rebel on various occasions in the past. both and private and in meetings in washington and in bogota that. he never wanted to discuss the issue. he would get
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angry and nervous whenever it was raised. it would discredit it as an international smear campaign. oh there's a gorilla has a new strategy because. every year every time a warrior is shot dead it is immediately claimed at home and abroad. i bet it was an extrajudicial execution. or number yet and yet the same for a has the largest number of murders of union members in the world simply because they were doing their job and that. the scope of
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the colombian state for peculiar store calls and sociological reasons has slowly turns into a criminal apparatus for the men of at the very least the whole institutions of the state have taken on this form. first through torture then with the desaparecidos and the creation of paramilitary groups that turned into a strategy which has had the form of a very strong national structure for my with good enough and i would we put it this way then the practice of extrajudicial executions and forced displacements. was this for all the forms of social control in such an elitist and all sorts hereon country and i didn't such a polarized society turn violence into a tool or regularize ation.
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was. at least local room beyond this state. if colombia has generated policies that favor a massive systematic violation of human rights this. has very serious deficits as far as justice is concerned all right general rule in colombia is impunity. for the policies of secure adad democratica which propel this government are founded on the militarization of society in other words on the growth of the war machinery and the colombian army has grown rapidly it was in the last few years it has doubled in strength because of the armed struggle in the
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country so there is a whole range of controls and internal systems we believe ought to be reformed and improved it is also characterized by the creation of a secret police which persecutes opponents so west turn the paramilitary groups into a structure so even if they have been apparently disbanded they will continue to operate very intensely controlling a good part of the national territory. if they call me and i reply i am a colombian in the security democratic a is a good thing a problem is that there are bad elements in the army in the police and in other bodies they aren't applying the law as they should what's wrong with a security job democratica is the rewards given to servicemen when they turn up with a positive. thing in the rewards policy is necessary to fight crime. but we really should revise our
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policy where we if we don't it is either interpreted wrongly or fulfilled in a criminal manner it is in we know the more people that are shot the more convenient it is for a military unit or individual soldier because it allows them to get home leave to go and see their mothers and girlfriends it also allows them to advance in their careers to win the respect of other service men. it helps gain decorations and it often wins them rewards in cash which also end up in the hands of civilians recruiters of these young men and of some service men.
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in. in. what is a president i first took part because of a neighbor of mine. his name was probably oh son one sunday ago. my job was to go around powers with him to help sell cocaine what you did on january third or fourth two thousand and seven asked me for the first time to help him take
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a bunch of young guys someplace. when we got there we got a call from the army i didn't know it was for the army i only found out there and then those kids were for the army that. would look easy when you just know you you know as a lot of rumors going around the neighborhood about these guys say they get the money straight out of the hands of the army people they deliver the kids to. school with the wooden americans you know the army buys them like merchandise bob you know would give me four hundred six hundred or seven hundred per person leave me a mine just over there. a friend came looking for him at about five thirty pm and then plenty off came looking for cancer took a blond kid out of the small window on the second floor and came out and they stand it somewhere in the park talked for a while and then left and that was the last time anyone saw him. look it is
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what they were saying in the bars was that they would give you two million pesos for every kid's. you just have to convince them by promising a job and simply take him out of town and hand them over to the army and they say he'd been offered to pay eight hundred thousand passes plus board and lodging. we went there to pick up two kids is of the with it it was about seven or eight pm and there was an army lorry waiting for us. coming on the lives that we got out of the taxi with the kids would be a went over to speak with the army guys while the two kids waited. on sick and then just the two of us got back into the taxi and headed back to. we. turned as we know they ended up lying in a field somewhere armed and dead. and it was good for business too because of the shot dead an enemy. soldiers would get home leave and then we could
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sell them coke. there's been so we'd get to jails for the price of one. you know this that's what these people were saying in the bars. because they are people without ordinary feelings. they just go around bars telling people how they sold them and how much they made. all of. them got no problem telling you what happens to these kids. alone you know because even the procedure was always the same we take into account here and when the order came from the battalion to deliver them we hand them over to the army.
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after seeing the photos they got in touch with the actor and they told me i had to go to iraq to start custody prestigious to get custody of the body once they gave us new some to leave very we went to recover the bodies. once they gave us notice of delivery we went to recover the bodies. which. we left at half past three in the morning. to go to the human rights office.
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in. to. me it was we go to barbara koa at about nine am where. the. bear they gave us their medical examination papers for my brother alexander. belich sound in your mind and for no beryl the other young man who died with him. and the medical examination office they gave us the death certificate and the woman who was the medical examiner there were culture born. so they gave us the bodies
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we thought that if we should arrive in time we could have buried them in little town the same day. if they'd injured him because what i got is that they hit him with one or two bullets. and on the death certificate it says death do you just several gunshots. to get. out of the most saddest part of the story was when nobody arrow's mom asked me the meaning of death by acute emergent anemia which people kill because she didn't understand them and. i felt the clearest thing to say was that i bled to death out cute humor ranchi and mania we asked what it was and they said that bled to death both of them actors brother and. you know gods and they died so close to the
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hospital and the silly elizabeth wouldn't. again logical for the army people themselves even if they were real criminals take them to the hospital to try and rescue them but instead they left them to die like dogs in the middle of a field. why did they leave them to bleed to death because it was more worthwhile that way it was worthwhile to let them die so they could show them off as fine since fuzzy keep us. if.
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it was a quarter of. the street still keeps it safe. to reveal that the soviet files.
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live. see. takes fifteen to twenty million years for the planet to recover from a major extinction event the planet has time we don't. it's been going on for about twenty years uncensored eco terrorists before there was even islamic fundamentalist terrorist in this country. eleven happened the bush administration could not find any terrorists because the feds couldn't find any real terrorists they decided to take these down people who were accused of property sabotage and labeled them as terrorists someone who destroys property. with absolutely
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zero intention of harming a single human being i in my mind is not a terrorist real people who are green in this country are the housewives who recycle. and the children who play the trees on the weekend with her cub scout troops that's the. saddest thing. time is. tough. if. it is. you. need to. see.
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