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school shopping has sent the world markets into a state of chaos. cries of my colleague bill dog is here in half an hour's time but up next a look at a mysterious military operation by the colombian army which allegedly led to the killing of innocent civilians you without saying. we cannot allow efficiency in the struggle against criminals to be confused with cowardice in facing the i don't and i go out of the body i don't agree also kind of allow this distortion of affect on lists of tainted by killing innocent victims will be. a bad day we decided to present our documents. we had meticulously prepared for several months. because there were various important circumstances in the field of human rights including the visit of the un high commissioner for human rights as he
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says. it was his and he. says that's. when you know right away and some of our earlier the government finally made up its mind to take decisions it should have taken that years ago. if you did it in the senate right now the ministry of national defense. and he has decided to withdraw from active service. and summoned to court with the use of discretionary power. the following members of the army as he individuality had. a bad day off for service on servicemen were deprived of office. as well as known commissioned officers. including generals you see. it was that they were located in those very areas and belong to those brigades which we had reported to you as having the highest number of crimes against human beings. my you are handed out major general
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the people who are members roberto the manager of the seventh division. began their general cortez franco who was a whack when he was commander of the second division. during the media show on october twenty ninth you're going to have to be. a target of us as i am treated as i was ever spoke schoolma'am with just tolerated those deaths here on these days so what is it from what we gather this is an administrative decision. despite the criminal investigation we are pursuing with the prosecutor's office. this led to the opening of several court cases. i'm sure arrest warrants against members of the army. it's a political decision why the suv public opinion luckily it stopped the bats. because if they had carried on they would have had to throw out
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a whole division commanders i'm quite a few brigade commanders. by getting rid of three generals the public is satisfied and they can show the government is actually doing something to fight the false those positive o's phenomenon. that we have counted over twelve hundred false was positive those victims informally reported a such or were formally recognized as victims during our investigations. the question is can it be that as has been documented such events that took place are isolated cases or isn't this a logical contradiction. he said i asked the same question. it happened in all divisions it happened everywhere. i read a cynic report. it says that the region with the most pulse was positive most cases in two thousand and eight was led. by antioch here.
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he. is fifth or sixth. but it was the commander of the second division who paid for all the positive case all this cannot be done by just small groups on their own initiative. where it's an issue that as can be seen requires very sophisticated planning at each level. and why is it not a scandal. this is. crazy. because it's almost in comprehensible. imagine a patrol on the ground and they meet some peasant or guide in the area. says back over there this is in your piece that he's the one who planted mines. tells you that he planted the mines if i killed one of your men. he's
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a far civilian brings food to the guerrillas a commander who's leading a platoon. and who saw a brother in arms die of a previous day on a my plan to buy a bag. i think of arresting a person and also then simulate a fight with the person leading to his death this is my father's house it's way he lived and grew you come. and pineapple he also had some cows and pigs he was here all the time he was a phone and the computer was fond of him one morning when i got a call telling me to come here because there were armed men in the house and nobody knew why that happened. if you were on a bus and your letter was an anomaly it was a very alarming and distressing situation because we didn't know anything about that where he was what they've done to him this service man wouldn't talk they wouldn't answer any questions they said he had
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a gun this lady slept here so you have to take her away to she's a guerrilla fighter like that is a guerilla man i am to. nothing look nothing not even a drop of blood. not even a drop of blood the two came outside and killed him. it's unbelievable. it was all only come on tape everything please where the baptist was there talking about where the back and. was. going for our eyes were. full of course how is this possible. they have no right. to you know they had to wait in line of these to simulate to lie to say he was a gorilla man he could come out to attack them to say she died fighting as you know
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i think the conditions we found my did smadi were dreadful. really painful awful humiliating the greatest humiliation a human being could receive from any one person and to find your body in the state thrown on the ground naked to mistreat it heard it power shouldn't they be the ones who take care of us in is going to care for the good and the owner of colombians. in the annals he has imo we're talking about a crime committed only to show the world and the you heirs that they're defeated and agree that well they're actually human innocent promise and workers who are doing good to the country. because that was in the early probably because they're incapable of finding the real warriors and killing them.
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the government's responsibility after doing serious internal investigations should be to figure out if these officers were accessories to the extradition massacres if so they should bring criminal charges against them and if instead they are guilty of negligence of judy or in discipline in this case to it shouldn't form the country that this was the cause of their dismissal in the film there's a very interesting inquiry by a center dealing with the declassification of secret documents in the us called national security archive they have proved that this was not a new practice in the colombian armed forces let's say that there's a tradition of what's called body counting where they count the number of enemy shot dead.
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sensually what we knew it was. early document as for me this is a cable from the us embassy in your book. you talk about here it apparent june seventh incident of extrajudicial executions the military reported to the press that on that day that killed nine guerrillas in combat and their department investigation right in stocks and that precluded yet strongly suggest i would argue that the nine were executed by the army and then dressed in military and. the leading. chemistry there were probably. more of them. through the. in the years oh it also would go for the worst he would write two or
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three of those from those times when i pushed him because of the one thousand nine hundred ninety four again in one thousand nine hundred seven they're talking about it's body counts and grown know myself and i'm not surprised that it all these years in washington they were perfectly aware of the colombian situation there was a feeling that they haven't done a thing like agent explain how you know this kind of phenomenon where bodies are dressed up as guerrillas and presented as killed in action ah and this and this idea that you need to produce bodies actually encouraged paramilitary operations to go to the three going to be able to question them of the military or militant she looked closely but in the room for the last five fark is devoted to extortion kidnappings and recruiting of minors who had to leave libya they don't care if they have no regrets about trampling over international humanitarian law the money they
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make money with the international drug dealing. with linux what they did to the significantly increased capacity of the global economy which has responded. with purity over the country many things to review for. the view. of the earth here is one of the greatest in the world refused to use what it was. probably one of the largest target with this is throw completion of the world to conform. to the second. point is going to go to the cia document central intelligence agency its other intelligence memorandum from january to ninety four colombian counterinsurgency staffs in the. right direction but so that's one of the reasons they produce these
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documents is for a little bit wider dissemination of the government has been fifty one percent years . of military aid going to let them run for office who used to go through this people are. just people who are going through the roof and all. the military has a history of assassinating left wing civilians or guerrilla areas cooperating with their contacts or later or military groups attacks against suspected the sympathizers and killing after terrorists. so pretty direct statement from the cia can raise and create or and you know when they put these doctors together. these sort of analytical doctors these are summaries of raw intelligence that they gather from different sources or the whole washington for instance the movement. is to shift north and to train. the reason that a free person will refer to conclusion on if you can see it from. here look they knew about these activities they knew they were happening the knew about links to
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paramilitary groups and yes u.s. aid continued to flow. in quantity rich. on the fact that it has to because we're going to get to refute you sure it's going to scramble for who should get a little. bit of the resources will not i'm going to have to wonder somebody. could call them almost. as you put. the wolf you were part of the ship were you going to. it's
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a move. on the way in the. midst . of. this is the tenth meeting organized by the national movement of victims everywhere in the country me dozens of people have taken part in these meetings and thanks to them several legal actions have been undertaken allowing the identification of people responsible for violating human rights. that a huge amount of my brother's name was paid his kind of game as he was the first
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president of the corporation for the defense of human rights which in his part of the state crime victims association with you know he was killed with two gunshots i might disappoint you then he was burned capitated knifed and his internal organs were extracted they also broke his legs. but. all this only because he was promoting an initiative that touched upon troublesome issues and was starting to bring certain truths to the surface that. there are hundred thirty five thousand registered internal refugees in a region with a population of four hundred fifty thousand in other words thirty two percent of the population was forcibly displaced part of the population is subject to food restrictions with police forces preventing foodstuffs from reaching the area there have been one hundred thirty five cases of executions committed by police officers and executions known as false as positive alls.
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victims find the access to the justice system very difficult that first of all because of their economic situation. it's difficult for them to get a lawyer you know. victims are socially segregated many live on the fringes of society or reside illegally so they can't say they are victims because they're being persecuted or outcasts. being a victim is shameful and might as. well phone calls or notes with insults and warnings on them saying that if they talk they can fall victim to any sort of aggression a culture of fear among victims has built up they say things like i can't talk because so and so started talking and they've killed him or he's disappeared or
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he's being threatened that's why a lot of people just won't talk. with her it's getting worse because the government has started intimidating people who want to report these things saying that those who report false hoods will be prosecuted. our problem is that everyone has the right to turn to the legal system to report something. you know we are the first one to inquire into these cases and find out if they really are cases of fossils positive was. if they are we shall take all necessary steps and every responsibility but if they are not and they add to the long list of fake reports.
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we left got to go our for cheer or. after one hour inch of war. at two pm he hears was already there. waiting for us. and they made us go to the chicken kira barracks to prove we were a family. the body is they gave us a document there which we needed in chief or to collect the bodies. we gave the documents to the mayor and then we went through on earth the bodies. they were
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as a criminal who died fighting. because that's not the truth it wasn't a criminal. i don't understand why the government picks people and passes them off as positives knowing that these people have a family what is days go out there and look for the real gorilla man and if you want to meddle early by this went ok bro not just like you in the first guy you come across to be can bold for the colombian people against that and they've got no idea of the pain their cause into their relatives so if we don't reconsider the armed conflict and the excessive militarization of the country and if we don't go for a new democratic order we will never get out of the sad stage of extrajudicial killings in our country. countries like britain the us france and germany. are sensitive to the fact that any aid colombia receives. should respect human
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rights standards. that's why i was in favor of what the north american government said a few days ago they said that to the plan colombia should be cut because the cash is being used to pay the rewards for the false positive us and that's out of the question. the truth is that the victims are getting organized and are generating significant social and political processes in colombia the police cannot be built. on impunity. live .
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