thank. us vice president joe biden is in china to smooth things over considering the economic chop suey this country has gotten itself into and while this may be a friendly visit some wonder when the u.s. called wrong its people with china. and hundreds like the marines barricades became if they see it's you. who are just like hostages and while some syrians are welcoming the sight of their troops president obama is calling for president all sun to step aside so what exactly will donna g. . and we've all seen the london rioters but now some new faces are entering the picture

the sentiments to form a new year for inciting violence that didn't even happen so what's with the big brother poking around online and should you be watching your postings. it's thursday august eighteenth i'm christine in washington d.c. you're watching our team i want to start off by talking about china vice president joe biden is there right now meeting with china's vice president and no doubt this is significant for a number of reasons china of course the holder in chief of so much u.s. debt and with the downgrade of the u.s. credit rating china wants assurances that the u.s. will indeed continue making payments on that debt china also continues to develop at a rapid rate leading the way on everything from industry to technology to their standing in the global economy but i really want to focus on this relationship. between the

two countries as we move ahead in what is a trying time for the u.s. and increasingly successful one. to help me do that earlier i spoke with former ambassador to saudi arabia charles freeman jr i asked him how things have changed since the days when former president reagan was pledging to china that the u.s. would stand by its side here's his response. politically we do have a lot of preparation economically were incredibly enter pendant which is a problem for both of us jobs in the united states migrating to china. the american dollar is held by trying to it's in such quantity that they're worried frightened about what might happen. in the military sphere we've gone through the days under reagan and very bad days now there's a lot of distrust a lot of animosity. the two sides actually are busily planning for conflict it's really interesting that you say that because you know we do see from you know

president hu coming here for the state dinner to this visit on the surface there seem to be a lot of you know nice pictures of the two countries meeting but i think it's important to talk about this behind the scenes as you say the two sides are planning for conflict is the u.s. is problem you know with china on an ideological basis or is it more that they're worried about china as a rival. it's not ideological the chinese don't have an ideology that they can articulate and they have no intention posing something they can't confront on other people but certainly the u.s. has been critical about the human rights record and various things like that the united states has problems with trying its behavior which but then we have a peculiar habit internationally of wanting to insist that you must be like us to deal with us which i think is perhaps overreaching you get. the problems. between the united states and china have to do more with the fact that

china is beginning to be able to extend its defense beyond its immediate borders and the united states has become accustomed to having a sort of sphere of influence it goes right up to the trying to coast and is trying to comes out and develop some greater defense capacity it threatens. military supremacy doesn't threaten the united states but it threatens our military supremacy on a global scale so when you say that you countries are sort of secretly or behind the scenes planning for conflicts what does that actually mean though has mostly to do with taiwan which is a relic of history. trying to civil war which john kai-shek retreated. and where the existing regime is a direct descendant of the. now democratized. united states intervened in that civil war to prevent its outcome which probably i think certainly would have been incorporation of taiwan and the rest of china so from the chinese perspective we're

thwarting a major objective of their nationalism from our perspective. with an old friend. really interesting but we've got to be careful because the u.s. relationship with china is not the u.s. relationship with asia i think it's interesting when you look at the u.s. relationship with india india of course a democracy china not quite as much why why are these relationships so vastly different well in part it's a question of scale china plays about ten times the role in the international economy that india does. and our relationship with china is there for much more intense partly it's also. india. is a place we don't know much about. we know that it's a democracy and our knowledge sort of stops there we now know a fair amount about china we've spent forty years learning about it there are

hundreds of thousands of chinese students in this country there are somewhat less but climbing number of american students in china. and we have a much more intimate relationship with the chinese and it was the sometimes leads to spats. that's for sure talk about what you think the real purpose of this visit for you know vice president biden to be in china and you know rightly so china has cause for concern in terms of you know their friendship with us but i think the trip was not conceived in the context of the downgrading of the united states economy by standard and poor's it was intended rather to to develop a relationship with the next leader of china the future germany. the secretary general of the chinese communist party and founder president of john c. if you're paying with whom president biden is spending his time in john of the two

of them we'll travel together to the interior and look at the which one earthquake damage and hopefully get to know each other and. develop a relationship that can continue into the future what needs to happen right now in terms of this relationship what are some changes or need to be made or things that need to be done within the next you know six to eight months well i think the main thing is we need to find a way to establish a bit more mutual trust and confidence in the military sphere. because the trend of events is not good and the united states and china in a way have entered a sort of arms race where we're at a severe disadvantage because it cost thirty billion dollars to build an aircraft carrier battle group or maybe more but it costs probably a million dollars for the johnnies to build a missile that can sink a carrier it costs a lot of money to have a navy patrolling off the drug coast appearing over the border and jonna doesn't

cause the chinese very much to trawl through cyberspace in the united states. and so it goes in every case they have a cheaper more defensive. less. burdensome way of competing with us so in a sense the united states is in the position of the soviet union in our contest with the soviets. we. cause them to scramble and so. i want to put something up on the screen i don't know if you saw this right now the georgetown basketball team in china and we have some video of what was supposed to be a friendly game between the two countries i believe it was tied it ended up turning into as you can see here a major brawl on the basketball court i think the coach had to pull the team off before the game was even over it is this is symbolic of anything i mean certainly in attempts to get the two countries to play some sports and did not enter the way

that anyone had hoped well i think it's a very very sad development but the fact is that chinese basketball players got a reputation for being exceedingly aggressive this isn't the first time that there . were fights on the court. for a visiting team or or even abroad. so it's a it's a surgical well i wouldn't read too much into it this country was just the latest sort of a victim of that aggression i want to switch gears now to what's going on in syria protests violent crackdowns on the people and after quite some time president obama and secretary of state clinton have called for president bashar al assad to step down those calls were echoed by france germany and the u.k. so i want to take a look now at a report from one of our reporters on the ground in syria artie's maria for notion that is there and then will reconvene and talk about some of the implications. to see to you maybe. but in the last few days suffered

a brutal occupation i mean when you please. not the right barricades it became a case city. we would just like hostages for more than you claim to be army for groups that had taken control of the city and had been terrorizing its residents. told of the syrian army living. near the iraq. warder. officials are saying operation is now over their city have been freed from armed groups as you can see here or welcome in the soldiers as the waiters but in other parts of the country the troops leaving assad's officials crackdown are far less welcome in a similar offensive against so-called terrorists and the coastal city of latakia the opposition claims government troops killed almost fall to civilians while human rights groups report the number of deaths in the country could be almost as high as

two thousand some say assad is simply using his army to silence peaceful demonstrators across the country. the syrian army has been a resistance in cities across the country were. maybe there was some sort. of maybe they use the momentum. but if so where have they been when the army. armed groups is just a theory. they have an excuse in the studios. in new liberated there is life seems getting back to normal markets reopened and roads bridges days ago were empty i would go and filled with cars but reminders of the recent travels to hard to find and the most obvious one is fear. syria so i want to bring our former ambassador to saudi arabia has bring him back

into this discussion as we know today president obama called for president bashar al assad to step down but he released a statement in doing this and he said quote the united states cannot and will not impose this transition on syria it is up to the syrian people to choose their own leaders and we have heard their strong desire that there not be foreign intervention at this moment so the u.s. will not take action so what was the point of making this. stateman added making it now i think probably more domestic politics. than anything else so the fact is the united states hasn't had much of a relationship with syria and virtually no relationship with president assad. has in life people you don't know saying things about you probably don't have much impact and you're saying i was not about a few scenarios though as far as what could happen let's say somehow president assad does agree to step down. what's what are the chances of

a group you know maybe like the has veloce theory or something like that i mean something like that kind of taking his place somebody that would be even more disagreeable with the u.s. there are there are actually a series of very complicated situation there is a significant portion of the population maybe a majority but less supportive of president assad than fearful of what might replace him. this is a country that is very secular it's neutral on religious matters the army is mostly drawn from a minority the officer corps from an already called yellow whites from which i mistrust comes but the country is a majority sunni country and it's been very influenced by neighboring iraq. people in syria are scared to death of the same kind of secular violence and. discrimination that has come to prevail in iraq will really infiltrate their country i think there are real similarities in some ways to libya. that is to say

the situation is more complex than the outside world understands that it would be easy to make a mistake it's not wise to intervene in syria and secondly keep probably in many ways is the neighbors in this case turkey. and also saudi arabia as the voice for the arabs in the united states would be well advised. and probably president obama's statement was influenced by the fact that the cain of saudi arabia and the president of turkey the prime minister of turkey are both come out and called for the for president assad to reform royally just last question for you are you have extensive experience and knowledge about all these different countries that seem to be having something going on and what do you think happens next in syria as we look ahead you know to that to the next few weeks and months well i think it's on the

verge of becoming an ungovernable for president so. i'm interested in. what turkey will have you know turkey is a neighbor which had invested a great deal in trying to. promote reform through president assad in syria it's been frustrated turkey is also a country with a very strong army. a lot of resolve when it decides to do something it does it and i think the turks have put the syrians on notice that they're not going to tolerate indefinite turmoil in the country so i think we need to watch that space i was former ambassador to saudi arabia chas freeman jr. switching gears now to the u.k. where what started out as a joke drunken night and the creation of a facebook page and in so much more on the facebook page an invitation for people around london to come out and write a riot never happened but the two young men who started the page both in their very

early twenty's were sentenced for years in jail for even attempting it is one look at multiple harsh sentences being disturbed by the british government after those four days of violent protests there are days i have or bennett has the details. four years behind bars for the riot that didn't even happen jordan black sure and perry sutcliffe kenan were banged up for inciting disorder on facebook no one turned up after their invitation to riot which they later said was a drunken joke but now they face sentences even tougher than most looters and i worry is that it is an imbalance and a four year sentence for example would normally be given to somebody for a previous bodily harm for holding someone up with a knife or even for. some form of sexual assault so it seems to me that. there is a danger that the courts are moving into disproportionate territory and that

actually devalues our response to more serious crimes the governments encourage courts to dish out harsh sentences by using the public disturbance as an aggravating factor it's meant this man anderson fernandez could even be sent to jail for thing of just two scoops of ice cream because like this one denying bail to most offenders and ignoring any claims of previous good character of the one thousand two hundred seventy seven people charge so far two thirds have been reminded in custody that's way up on last year's rate for serious crimes this is just ten percent some offenders even being made homeless is their punishment with local governments taking away their houses but many say it's all simply cause more harm than good i think this is very unwise the move to remove people from housing interim move benefits because actually if we are seeing that some of the crime that we saw on the streets is an expression of people not feeling porter society not

feeling proud to work immunities then these measures are actually going to push people further away from society further away from our communities and far more likely to commit crime the facebook case is the first sign of the government's desire to crack down on social media sites like twitter were applauded by the west for mobile. izing the masses in the arab world but they were also instrumental in the u.k. riots so now the prime minister wants it to stop we are working with the police the intelligence services and industry to look at whether it would be right to stop people communicating via these websites or services when we know they are plotting violence disorder and criminality when social media fuel revolutions in egypt and tunisia person called it to mark crissy but now the shoe's on the other but when troubles closer to home i'm very conscious that there be new. movements only when. we. view. countries.

the prime minister says this is where britain fights back but it spears is fighting fire with fire that only fanned the flames of civil disorder our bill bennett r c london. you know british police have been unforgiving i'm saying more than three thousand people were arrested more than one thousand charged and to give you an idea of some of the other harsh sentences another man a twenty three year old got six months in jail for stealing a case of bottled water and answers like this being praised by prime minister david cameron now remember this is a developed country with an advanced legal system many critics saying this is severe overreaction on the part of the british government and you know what they're saying we should be worried about what comes next if this is happening and allowed to be happening today earlier i spoke to someone calling for a close examination of all of this radio host alex jones to start off our

conversation i asked him to give me his take on the recent case of those two young men given four years in prison for starting that facebook page and supposedly inciting a riot that never happened here's what he had to say. we've got the intel for you here on exactly what happened in day one when it started on that sunday we broke down what would happen now it's been confirmed that the police were ordered to stand down the government admits that when the when the looting was localized and very light then word spread to basically the hooligan football types and other miscreants that it was time to have a party and that you could loot and steal and then four days later the parliament comes in and attacks the internet and says we need to start restricting the internet across the board so yes they're going after people that kind of got on the bandwagon instead of asking why did the police stand down at the very beginning and that's being done show they can now come in and crack down on free speech across

the board because the british ministry of defense report in two thousand and seven predicted that the oncoming austerity in the next five years and now here we are four years later would cause a real political demonstrations and political rioting so they allowed some hooligan type activity to now bring in draconian rules and label all political demonstrations and activity as violent and so that's why these hooligans targeted people stores family homes set fires so they're going after people who stole ice cream or bottle water or who you know joke around on facebook instead of having real police investigations and finding the real violent criminals that set the fires and attack the firefighters so this is a type of false flag event that we're seeing and we caught the police here in the us in seattle full of years ago in ninety nine actually hiring thugs to attack not

prosecuting him and then pulling back and then the public saying do something then the police attacked the peaceful protesters at the w two you know this is a elaborate psychological warfare operation i'm just saying is that. the fact and prison planet dot com and for words are called our reporters in london we predicted everything that unfolded this is a standard operating system it's so interesting alex whenever i hear about things like this happening especially crackdown on social media i mean it was not very long ago that our government the u.s. government was criticizing needs it for setting down their internet service which is you know a lot of the social media by facebook and twitter is where their kind of protests are being organized i know too that this is not just overseas in this country you know a lot of police departments have been reacting to what they're seeing a by bringing in you know i know n.y.p.d. is when they're bringing in an entire social media unit these officers will spend their days sort of scouting with going on and and looking for things like this to

be happy jackley one of my listeners actually broke that story because it happened and a few months ago he said let's go protest the federal reserve the real power structure the ron paul other soft about it when he got there there are over fifty cops writing because he called for a peaceful demonstration look at last week in san francisco they were going to have a peaceful demonstration so in a third of the city they just shut off all the cell phones because a peaceful demonstration was happening the u.s. government the british government others and nato criticized haji mubarak for after weeks of rioting and protest and burning and looting they shut off the internet and more that was the worst thing in the world but now you even talk about a peaceful demonstration of the u.s. the cell phones are cut off for everybody british government pressured amazon three days into it to not sell people baseball bats and other things to defend themselves so this is the brits have been disarmed and then the government stands down in

southern london with some very small. riots going on over a youth who was shot and i mean it is insane to watch this happening and we saw it when we saw the police stand down we said a stand down was ordered and it came out of there was a stand down so it holds no water the west is getting the public ready to demonize real political demonstrations. that was radio host alex jones. on to a story about the criminal justice system in america it is of course touted as one of the best but at times there are cases the handling of which can be baffling and surprising i want to look specifically at the case of a twelve year old boy paul henry gingrich sentenced to thirty years in an adult prison after being tried as an adult also and this was for his role in the shooting and killing of his friend stepfather according to the detective in the case polls a friend fired two of the shots not to mention planned the whole thing and out the

same punishment earlier i spoke with monica foster al-hamra gingrich's attorney i asked her what led to this decision to try paul gingrich as an adult. well in indiana a person can be tried as an adult even if they're twelve years old all henry was twelve years and two months old at the time that this tragic event happened and in indiana you can be tried as an adult if the prosecutor can show that there's probable cause to believe that. that the juvenile committed an offense that would be a crime is committed by an adult and if it's in the best interests of society and the juvenile. treat that person manson and or imposture his trial we were given the warmer days to prepare for this hearing and the way i can think of it is if you were sued for divorce or you were in a car accident they gave your lawyer four days to prepare there's no way that person could be prepared and that's what happened in this case i mean what's to

stop you know a six year old or an eight year old for being tried as an adult twelve seems very very young to me it's not like the difference between sixteen and eighteen twelve is terribly young and what we know about juvenile brain development you know we've learned a lot about that in the last five years really and we know that kids at twelve years old their brains are not as developed as kids even eighteen years you've got to work rockets at home you know they frequently do really dumb things and then they can't tell you why they didn't it. and you know what we're trying to get across here is to get those sorts of span sort of medicine that sort of science considered by the juvenile justice system before they transfer kids and to be a dog prison system when we send them to the dog prison system we're basically saying there's no hope for you and there's nothing we can do and and america i just think that we ought not have an idea that it's ok to flush

a twelve year or child's life down a dreamer yet seems really strange when you talk about being this weight of is the . better or not for society that seems very subjective subjective here you know people both inside the walls of the us and outside are very surprised that children especially as young as twelve can be tried as adults but i want to get some insight from you into paul's character i mean from what i'm seeing he was a member of the student council got good grades this is not a bully that we're talking about shell a little more light on this you know it's interesting frequently we're only when we hear about these crimes that young people commit with i know that their history is that they've got a lot of juvenile court this child is not that this is a kid which was years old he had no prior to juvenile court the worst thing they could say about par the way we're hearing was that he sometimes didn't do his homework and he sometimes talking class i don't know about you christine but they

said those things about me when i was a kid too. and that was the worst that they could say i mean this is truly truly a little boy when i went to see him the first time in the prison it was shocking to me shocking just how much of a little boy here is it seems very strange to me at least to have a twelve year old be in an environment with people you know between the ages of eighteen and seventy people that he's probably other than his parents and not really related to before are you worried at all for paul safety if he does in fact have to spend that time in jail with here i'm really worried and i'm terribly worried it's not just that they're adults but instead these are people who have been convicted and sent to prison for some pretty terrible crimes and so i'm worried not just about his safety but also about what kind of influence they'll have or. you know i think if we want to create a productive member of society we need to treat

a kid like him in the juvenile system in sort of flush him away and say there is no hope for him by sending him to an adult prison. and it's just a screw those of us who work in the justice system for a long time my son it's just the thought of it is just madness it's just crazy that was monica foster attorney for paul henry gingrich and that is going to do it for now for more on the stories we covered go to our t.v. dot com slash usa or check out our youtube page youtube dot com slash r t america it's also follow me on twitter at frazz i'm christine chris our. r g is the state run english speaking russian channel it's kind of like the old zero. zero zero. zero.