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yes. vice president joe biden visits china to strengthen relations but there's a great ideological long standing between the two countries so with the u.s. economy on the ropes is it time for us to see china as the silk road to success. and getting serious about syria u.s. president obama tells syrian president bashar al assad to step down now with thousands of civilians already dead is this too little too late. while london's youth showed its unfriendly side big brother got a little too friendly with facebook postings and even arrested two men for inciting
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violence never actually happened so should the government be allowed to poke around in people's privacy. it's a bird it's a plane no it's a mysterious comet but potentially be headed directly toward earth or at least that's what some theorists would have you believe so just what is the yellin and going on here. it's thursday august eighteenth eight pm in washington d.c. i'm christine friends out here watching our team. i want to start off by talking about china this evening by president joe biden is there right now meeting with china's vice president and no doubt this is significant for a number of reasons china of course the holder in chief of so much u.s. debt and with the downgrade of the u.s. credit rating china wants assurances the u.s. will indeed continue making payments on that china also continues to develop at
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a rapid rate leading the way on everything from industry to technology to their standing in the global economy but i really want to focus on this relationship between the two countries as we move ahead in what is a trying time for the u.s. and an increase increasingly successful time for china while to help me do that earlier i spoke to former ambassador to saudi arabia chas freeman and i asked him how things have changed since the days when former president ronald reagan was pledging to china that the u.s. would stand by its side here's his response. politically we do have a lot of operation economically were incredibly interview and. there's a problem for both of us jobs in the united states migrating to china. the american dollar is held by trying to use in such quantity that they're worried frightened about what might happen. in the military sphere we've gone through two
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days under reagan and very bad days now there's a lot of distrust a lot of animosity. between sides actually purposely planning for a conflict it's really interesting that you say that because you know we do see from you know president hu coming here for the state dinner to this visit on the surface there seem to be a lot of you know nice pictures of the two countries meeting but i think it's important to talk about this behind the scenes as you say the two sides are planning for conflict is the u.s. has problem you know with china on an ideological basis or is it more that they're worried about china as a rival. it's not ideological the chinese don't have an ideology that they can articulate and they have no intention of imposing something they can't define on other people but certainly the u.s. has been critical about the human rights record and various things like that the united states has problems with trannies behavior which but then we have
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a peculiar have it internationally of wanting to insist that you must be like us to deal with us which i think is perhaps overreaching a bit. the problems. between the united states and china have to do more with the fact that china is beginning to be able to extend its defense beyond its immediate borders and united states has become accustomed to having a sort of sphere of influence it goes right up to the trying to coast and is trying to comes out in develops a greater defense capacity it threatens. our military supremacy doesn't threaten the united states but it threatens our military supremacy on a global scale so when you say the two countries are sort of secretly or behind the scenes planning for a conflict what does that actually mean though has mostly to do with taiwan which is a relic of history. trying to civil war to which john project retreated. and
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where the existing regime is a direct descendant of the. now democratized. united states intervene in that civil war to prevent its outcome which probably i think certainly would have been incorporation of taiwan into the rest of china so from the chinese perspective we're thwarting a major objective of their nationalism from our perspective we're keeping faith with an old friend it really interesting but we've got to be careful because the u.s. relationship with china is not a u.s. relationship with asia i think it's interesting when you look at the u.s. relationship with india india of course a democracy china not quite as much why why are these relationships so vastly different well in part it's a question of scale china plays about ten times the role in the international economy that india does. our relationship with china is therefore much more intense . partly it's also. india. is
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a place we don't know much about. we know that it's a democracy and our knowledge sort of stops there we now know a fair amount about china we've spent forty years learning about it there are hundreds of thousands of trying the students in this country there are somewhat less but declining number of american students in china. and we have a much more intimate relationship with the chinese and intimacy sometimes leads to spats. that's for sure talk about what you think the real purpose of this visit for you know vice president biden to be in china and you know rightly so china has cause for concern in terms of you know their friendship with us but i think the trip was not conceived in the context of the downgrading of the united states economy by standard and poor's it was intended rather to begin to develop
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a relationship with the next leader of china the future chairman of the secretary general of the chinese communist party and the president of john c. jinping with whom vice president biden is spending his time in front of the two of them will travel together to the interior and look at the so strong earthquake there i mean age and hopefully get to know each other and. develop a relationship that can continue into the future what needs to happen right now in terms of this relationship what are some changes or need to be made or things that need to be done within the next you know six to eight months well i think the main thing is we need to find a way to establish a bit more mutual trust and confidence in the military sphere. because the trend of events is not good and united states and china in a way have entered a sort of arms race. we were at a severe disadvantage because it cost thirty billion dollars to build an aircraft
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carrier battle group maybe more but it costs probably a million dollars for the chinese to build a missile that can sink a carrier it costs a lot of money to have the navy patrolling off the china coast appearing over the border into china doesn't trust the chinese very much to troll through cyberspace in the united states. and so it goes in every case they have found a cheaper more defensive. less. burdensome way of competing with us so in a sense the united states is in the position of the soviet union in our contest with the soviets. we. caused them to spend and so. i want to present thing up on the screen i don't know if you saw this right now the georgetown basketball team in china and we have some video of what was supposed to be a friendly game between the two countries i believe it was tied it ended up turning into as you can see here
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a major brawl on the basketball court i think the coach had to pull the team off before the game was even over it is this is symbolic of anything i mean certainly in attempts to get the two countries to supply some sports that did not end the way that anyone had hoped well i think it's a very very good development but the fact is that chinese basketball players cover reputation for being exceedingly aggressive this isn't the first time. to fight somebody court with. foreign visiting team or or even abroad. so it's a it's a sad development but i wouldn't read too much into it this country was just the latest sort of victim of that aggression i want to switch gears now to what's going on in syria protests violent crackdowns on the people and now for quite some time president obama and secretary of state clinton have called for president bashar al assad to step down those calls were echoed by france germany and the u.k.
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so i want to take a look now at a report from one of our reporters on the ground in syria artie's maria for notion that is there and then will reconvene and talk about some of the implications. there is to me believe that in the last few days it suffered a brutal occupation and he may please i responded it's not the right put up barricades it became a case. we would just like hostages more than we reclaim beyond forty came some groups that had taken control of and have been terrorizing its residents. holders of the syrian army i live in this need to. view the iraqi border. measure officials are saying operation is now over that the city has been freed from armed groups as you can see people are welcome in the saw this as the way there is but in other parts of the country the troops leaving assad's vicious crackdown are far less welcome in
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a similar offensive against so-called terrorists in the coastal city of latakia the opposition claims government troops killed almost fall to civilians while human rights groups report the number of deaths in the country could be almost as high as two thousand some say assad is simply using his army to silence peaceful demonstrators across the country over the little as the syrian army hasn't met any resistance in cities across the country were. maybe there was some so-called blended among protesters maybe they use the momentum to spread again but if so where have they been when the army. armed groups is just a theory invented by the spring they had an excuse in the cities for a new liberated there is a life since question back to normal in markets reopened and roads bridges days ago
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were empty out again filled with cars but reminders of the recent struggles are still hard to find and the most obvious one is fear. syria. so i want to bring our former ambassador to saudi arabia chas freeman back into this discussion as we know today president obama called for president bashar al assad to step down but he released a statement in doing this and he said quote the united states cannot and will not impose this transition on syria it is up to the syrian people to choose their own leaders and we have heard their strong desire that there not be foreign intervention at this moment so the u.s. will not take action so what was the point of making the statement and of making it now i think probably more domestic politics. than anything else so the fact is the united states hasn't had much of a relationship with syria and virtually no relationship with president assad. has in life people you don't know saying things about you probably don't have much
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impact interesting was not about a few scenarios though as far as what could happen let's say somehow president assad does agree to step down. what's what are the chances of a group you know maybe like the hezbollah of syria or something like that i mean something like that kind of taking his place somebody that would be even more disagreeable with the u.s. there are there are actually a series of very complicated situation there's a subpoena for can portion of the population maybe a majority that is supportive of president assad and fearful of what might replace him. this is a country that is very secular it's neutral on religious matters the army is mostly drawn from the minority the officer corps from an already called yellow lights from which mr assad comes. but the country is a majority sunni country and it's been very influenced by ransom neighboring iraq.
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people in syria are scared to death of the same kind of secular violence. discrimination that has come to prevail in iraq. will infiltrate their country i think there are real similarities in some ways to libya. that is to say the situation is more complex than the outside world understands that it will be easy to make a mistake it's not wise to intervene in syria and secondly key probably in many ways is the neighbors in this case turkey. and also saudi arabia as the course for the arabs in the united states would be well advised and probably president obama's statement was influenced by the fact that the king of saudi arabia and the president of turkey the prime minister of turkey have both come out and called for it for president assad to either reform or orly just last question for you are you have extensive experience and knowledge about all these different countries but
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seem to be having something going on and what do you think happens next in syria as we look ahead you know to get to the next few weeks and months well i think it's on the verge of becoming un governable for president assad. and i. i'm interested in. what turkey will do you know turkey is a neighbor which had invested a great deal in trying to. promote reform through president assad in syria it's been frustrated turkey is also a country with a very strong army. a lot of resolve when it decides to do something and does it and i think the turks have put the syrians on notice that they're not going to tolerate indefinite turmoil in the country so i think we need to watch this space. that was former ambassador to saudi arabia chaz freeman jr. well let's talk about
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chaos of a different kind the aftershocks from the panics in the streets of london which manifested in the form of protests violence and having looting police for days british police arrested more than three thousand people and more than one thousand of those were charged often with extremely harsh sentences one of those a twenty three year old man got six months for stealing a case of bottled water also in what is becoming a highly publicized case two men in their early twenty's sentenced for years in jail for a facebook page they set up a page they say they set up while they were drunk on it people interested in taking part in a riot were invited to come out of the riot never happened but the two men were arrested charged and sentenced with four hears behind bars a sentence that was praised by prime minister david cameron earlier i spoke to radio host alex jones in austin texas he said it's yet another example of the brother not only being alive and well but with behavior that's being accepted
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a little too easily. believe got the intel for you here on exactly what happened in day one when it started on that sunday we broke down what would happen now it's been confirmed that the police were ordered to stand down the government admits that when the when the looting was localized and very light then word spread to basically the hooligan football types and other miscreants that it was time to have a party and that you could loot and steal and then four days later the parliament comes in and attacks the internet and says we need to start restricting the internet across the board so yes they're going after people that kind of got on the bandwagon instead of asking why did the police stand down at the very beginning and that's being done show they can now come in and crack down on free speech across the board because the british ministry of defense report in two thousand and seven
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predicted that the oncoming austerity in the next five years and now here we are four years later would cause a real political demonstrations and political rioting so they allowed some hooligan type activity to now bring in draconian rules and label all political demonstrations and activity as violent it was not very long ago that our government the us government was criticising events for setting down their internet service which is you know a lot of the social media sites facebook and twitter is where they're kind of protest for being organized i know too that this is not just overseas in this country you know a lot of police departments have been reacting to what they're seeing by bringing in you know i don't n.y.p.d. is one they're bringing in an entire social media unit these officers will spend their days sort of scouting with going on and and looking for things like this to be happy jackley one of my listeners actually broke that story because it happened to him a few months ago he said let's go protest the federal reserve the real power structure
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the ron paul and other stuff about it when he got there over. because writing because he called for a peaceful demonstration look at last week in san francisco they were going to have a peaceful demonstration so in a third of the city they just shut off all the cell phones because a peaceful demonstration was happening the u.s. government the british government others and nato criticized haji mubarak for after weeks of rioting and protest and burning and looting they shut off the internet and boy that was the worst thing in the world but now you even talk about a peaceful demonstration in the u.s. the cell phones are cut off for everybody british government pressured amazon three days into it to not sell people baseball bats and other things to defend themselves so the so the brits have been disarmed and then the government stands down in southern london with some very small. riots going on over a youth who was shot and i mean it is insane to watch this happening and we saw it
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when we saw the police stand down we said and a stand down was ordered and it came out of there was a stand down so it holds no water that was radio host alex jones. on to a story about the criminal justice system here in america it is touted as one of the best but it's times there are cases the handling of which can be baffling and surprising i want to look specifically at the case of a twelve year old point paul henry gingrich sentenced to thirty years in an adult prison after being tried as an adult for his role in the shooting and killing of his friends but further now according to the detective in the case paul friend also fired two of the four socks not to mention planned the entire thing the same punishment earlier i spoke with monica foster hall henry gingrich's attorney i asked her what led to this decision to try and as an adult in the first place. well in indiana a person can be tried as an adult even if they're twelve years old paul henry was
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twelve years and two months old at the time that this tragic event happened and in indiana you can be tried as an adult if the prosecutor can show that there's probable cause to believe that. the juvenile committed an offense that would be a crime committed by an adult and if it's in the best interests of society and the juvenile. treat that person as an adult in past cases trial we were given but we're days to prepare for this hearing and the way i can think of it is if you were sued for divorce or your car accident made your way or four days to prepare there's no way that the person could be prepared and that's what happened in this case yeah it seems really strange when you talk about being this weight of is this better or not for society that seems very subjective subjective where you know people both inside the walls of the u.s. and outside are very surprised that children especially as young as twelve can be
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tried as an adult but i want to get some insight from you into pulse character i mean from what i've seen he was a member of the student council got good grades this is not a bully that we're talking about some a little more light on that you know it's interesting frequently wrongly when we hear about these crimes that young people commit with i don't think their history is that they've got a lot of referrals to juvenile court this child is not that child this is a kid which one hears all here no prior to juvenile court the worst thing they can say about par the way working was that he sometimes didn't do his homework and he sometimes talk in class i don't know about you christine but they said those things about me when i was a kid too. and that was the worst that they could say i mean this is truly truly a little boy when i went to see him the first time in the prison it was shocking to me. shocking just how much of a little boy's years it seems very strange to me at least to have
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a twelve year old be in an environment with people you know between the ages of eighteen and seventeen people that he's probably other than as parents and not really related to before are you worried at all for paul's safety if he does in fact have to spend that time in jail with here we're going to get and i'm terribly worried it's not just that they're going to alt but instead these are people who have been convicted and sent to prison for some pretty terrible crimes and so i'm going to be not just about his safety but also not look at it influence they'll have over. you know i think if we want to create a oprah dr of member of society we need to treat a kid like him in the juvenile system and not sort of wash them away and say there is no hope for him by sending him to an adult prison it's just for those of us who work in the justice system for a long time my son it's just the thought of it is just madness it's just crazy now as mark a foster attorney for paul henry gingrich. well switching gears big time now we've
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all heard about the end of the world in two thousand and twelve could it be much much sooner well there's a whole lot of talk going all around the solar system that certain things we've seen recently should be taken as signs of something big right around the corner from the devastating earthquake in japan to massive flooding in the u.s. the likes of which we've never seen tornados volcanoes all kinds of natural disasters and now we're expecting a comment coming yellin or becoming close to earth relatively speaking in just a few short months expected here on october sixteenth of this year and joining us now for more is brooks agnew host of x. squared radio brooks is all of also the author of this book remembering the future the physics and soul of time travel. so gross i really want to talk to you about this because a lot of people are talking about this if you look on the internet on youtube.
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people seem to think that we should be concerned and worried and be preparing for october sixteenth what's the big deal here why should we care about this well that's a really good question a lot of people are concerned about it we've done a lot of research on comet l. and n. and what we found is there's a lot of missing data on this comet nasa claims that it's a harmless little fuzz ball of ice won't come any closer than twenty two million miles to earth others are saying that they're getting pictures of it it doesn't look like a comet it doesn't act like a comet it's coming in from an area that comets don't normally originate from we have sort of a maelstrom in our galaxy we're comets originate and this one is not coming from that neighborhood so there are a lot of things about this comet that don't make sense. couple that with the arrival of a very large asteroid along around the same time coming in from a different angle and the launch of the new emergency alert system on the same day
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of the arrival of that asteroid and you have some very strange coincidences that it seems the officials are not being upfront about so what are you trying to say here approx i mean you're saying that there are some dots to be connected here. what are they and what's the conclusion recently right. well it's a much bigger picture as our solar system mirrors what we call the galactic plane of our galaxy and we've seen a few television specials and a few movies and certainly some sensationalism out there in the press about it but that the facts cannot be denied every twenty six thousand years our solar system arrives in this neighborhood and it seems there is a historical record as some very cataclysmic things happen about this time now we have been you know. put off by a professional saying oh oh there's nothing to worry about everything's going to be fine in two thousand and thirteen just like it is right now but those of us that been watching new cosmological science geological science oceanographic signs have
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been showing that there is the trend that the ancients said would happen so when you're talking about some of these signs proxy are talking about some of the natural disasters we've seen the nature of earthquakes hurricanes flooding is this what you're talking about yes taken by themselves they seem rather innocuous but when you put them all together it fits a very neat pattern of some other gravitational forces some other higher frequencies entering our solar system that we haven't faced before in alone let me tell you what i've been looking around online and there are a lot of conspiracy theories out there about what this means common gallon and. what do you think are some of the most viable maybe one or two of the most viable theories out there in terms of what we should be aware of regarding this comet. well what we should be aware of is that pretty soon actions by j.p.l. that's actual path are highly estimated there are
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a lot of forces working on this comet as it travels through our solar system from a very odd angle and not all of them have been calculated so we're kind of making a guess as to where this thing is going to end up and i guess you know may not be good enough as the earth gets close enough to this and other bodies like why you fifty five it's got this asteroid that's coming in we're going to see some very near misses with our planet that's maybe not alarming but when you look at the literally billions of dollars that governments are spending all over the world to build underground shelters and storage capacity you wonder if they know something we don't well why haven't i got anything in my mailbox about where the nearest underground shelter as mannion is this something that you think you know based on the theory that perhaps we should have that people have been you know given notice of well i think it's worth a raised eyebrow and i'm sorry you didn't get your notice but i think that when we
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look at the press and we look at where governments are spending their money for instance recently russia announced that they're building five thousand or underground shelters wide because they don't have enough shelters for other people . against what and of course we've been building a lot of them here in this country and that's also the subject of a lot of conspiracy theories but if those kinds of shelters are being built and we have or i've just just about forgot about this one nasa's little video warning that went out to all the family of nasa employees to get their food storage together get their water storage together happened just a plain and so that they can go from where they are to where their family is should the communication systems be knocked out it's very real in eight hundred fifty nine we had a solar storm that knocked out telegraph offices caught them on fire power and papers electrocuted workers not found.

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