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no one who is you know you with the global machinery see where we had it state controlled capitalism is called satchels when nobody dares to ask we do our tea question more. for. fun. are you ready to rumble it's time for friday night's big picture rumble where i sit down with three expert political commentators to debate the week's top stories on
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our pals tonight heather sermon a conservative strategist a man as you know her for forty group public relations other surnow dot com lisa good bass wiley conservative activist and contributor at human events dot com and joe madison host of the joe madison show on sirius x.m. satellite radio during weekdays six to ten am yesterday on channel one twenty eight thanks for getting up stand up so late. to begin warren buffett turned heads this week when he wrote this in the new york times he wrote while the poor and middle class fight for us in afghanistan and while most americans struggle to make ends meet we measure which continue to get our extraordinary tax breaks my friends and i have been coddled long enough billionaire friendly cars it's time for our government to get serious about shared sacrifice talks news followed up by accusing buffett of being a socialist. warren buffett wrote an op ed in new york times today so we should be i think you mentioned earlier we should get we should
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be taxed more i guess for the people who are doing a little cuddling you guys want to create your article you know these are job creators tax them a little bit more because they're not doing enough already what is this i mean is he completely a socialist so my question what's socialist about asking millionaires and billionaires to pay the exact same tax rate as their secretaries i think warren buffett should go and write a check to start the ball rolling on tax rates not voluntary contributions i mean i'm just saying that if you really is serious about that and set an example by writing a check and saying i'm serious about this and i want other billionaires and follow my lead and get all this stuff this is true that it would be before you have a chance to inspire happened congressman hogan actually suggested that today and here's how his constituents respond this is because i'm not out there trying to coddle anybody i'm back to support a bill that allows super rich if they want to make. me give more money to the federal government computer i'm going to use of his attorney patrick you should.
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this is a republican he says no it's a charity joe. you know warren buffett does write checks he writes billions of dollars worth of checks to charities and and causes around the world that's a straw vote i suppose to talk i was like that's just a talking point we're talking about changing the tax structure so that there's a consistent contribution millionaires and billionaires and millionaires and billionaires not only because they're very smart but because they live in the united states of america we provide them the workforce we provide them the research and development how is all they paid for it's speed through tax dollars and so the reality is that there's this thing of just writing. it's nothing more than a talking point something is terribly wrong in the united states and i know what
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people are going to fifty percent of americans don't pay taxes because fifty percent of americans don't make enough to pay taxes and i was our tax system is really good so you know but if he is a socialist he is one of the socialist in the world because that's the point is that you know i would call him a hypocrite if i would call him a socialist i mean he's making money on a system and then saying that we should have this you know other system for other people and i think you make if you are nice suggesting that asking warren buffett who's paying seventeen percent income tax to pay the same thirty six percent income tax that his secretary pays makes him a socialist i said i wouldn't call him a socialist i call him a hypocrite and i think he makes a good point that what you are fickle does that he wants the system that he is not but i mean he has benefited from a capitalist society so and you know it's not like he has and he's very noisy here he has a runny i mean he's leaving his money to charities because he knows that charities do work that government can't do i mean why not leave your money to government
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programs walk the walk like ted turner give your money to the u.n. and the reality is that giving their money to the federal government is not a wise move if you want to stimulate the economy there are many other ways as a billionaire to. perry and. we are spilling our state all of their money to the government that's still beautiful all of the money to work all right and we go to the extreme did anybody say i'm going to have no no no nobody's. taken all of their money to back to the government we'd still be in a hole so i think in our business men they want to make a good investment and when there's so much waste going on in government spending i mean it's hard and you know like the fans out with the fans on the table too there's waste everywhere. and they are both both parties seem to be addicted to free trade cool that we all agree on one thing that the government should be buying american goods in one nine hundred thirty. as to why american act it says that any government agency is going to buy anything yes a chair
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a computer or back then it was a typewriter they have to buy it from an american source if it's a government agency spending u.s. dollars and basically since the reagan administration basically suspended enforcement of the by american act and we have not been doing it and we've lost fifty two thousand factories since the factories was eleven years obama's bus was made in canada the border guards for the for the border patrol that are patrolling the mexican border their uniforms are made in mexico and what is wrong with this picture is that just common sense in a really good way to reboot our manufacturing to go back to having things made in america but i think any time the government implements something it never turns out the way you want it so i think in order to have more american goods and we need it we can't fight we didn't fight world war two successful. and he didn't. make commerce astable we didn't do hoover dam in the tennessee valley authority bass all
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going to our buildings saying i'm proud going about you know telling people to buy something just like telling people to buy an electric car went out no one wants and like they were tired of the government telling their soft of us oh yeah but what you need to do is level the playing field and don't make it worth their while for american companies that want to do business here or not i just always leave the government spending is twenty percent of our g.d.p. and right now a large chunk of the twenty percent the government's buying computers made in china but you have to be writing about things here that could sustain the government and people that really do want to buy american because companies are going overseas because it's more attractive to be over there because it was more attractive because it's how you present what we'll see you guys want to run to the u.s. taxes are lower but it's also cheap let's be honest it's cheap labor and spending the same companies that are in china you know it's very interesting they're also in prison labor so i guess. you're right it's cheaper to hire people to do phone. solicitation you know if you go to victoria's secret so you know one of the
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laundress of india excuse me and also in prisons and us in the u.s. prison now why are we making. in u.s. prisons. i think that there's a lot of you know you connect the dots it's gotten much more complicated as you as we all know i mean your cart supposedly is made in japan right by toyota but really there's a manufacturing plant in south carolina that helps with those parts and then it's also partly built in japan and also partly perhaps built in china has been or an apple computer that came from china it's really hard to figure out where all these kids get what i say by every girl is what is really there are twenty g. twenty countries the biggest economies in this twenty g. twenty countries nineteen of those countries have laws on the books which are actually enforced today which require all government expenditures to come from manufacturers within those countries we're the only one of those guys right in this picture to get it right so it's hard to say why it's american to mean they're going
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to have there's going to be some sort of government regulation that says it has to be ten percent near american and that we really gaining anything if there's some regulation that says buying american counts as something that's never going to give you an example this is coming next week. martin luther king memorial. the granite came from china. the actual memorial was it was designed not designed but you have designed and sculpture by a chinese. it should have been done in a manner the granite could have come from. the sculptures could have been here in the united states in oakland california but replacing a bridge they won't buy the metal. from the united states they're going to buy it from china and ship america will be here to build the bridge and why don't they want to buy the metal from here because they would have to have american rules to
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hire americans and they don't want to do better dick and that's why we're in the boat we're in now it's not just china it's countries all over the world that encircle to germany's in our journey and we got free cherry so so china and and taiwan can sell cars in the united states we can't sell forward so there is something wrong ok let's let's move along to the gang of twelve these so-called super congress they're supposed to meet figure out how to cut one point two trillion dollars out of our budget we discovered today it was reported in several sources that the bankers have given eleven million dollars to these twelve people over the last decade. some of the largest banks passed no money to them and one and the single largest institutional organization that has contributed to the gang of twelve is the club for growth and we know what their agenda is this is a right wing group an anti-tax group so before the gang even meets is the deck been
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stacked let's meet with a bipartisan committee the club for growth i'm sure did not contribute to the democrats who are on that committee so you've got different interests being represented at the bank and if he is going to be a bloody as we know it's going to be a bloody fight it's going to be till the end we're going to probably you know ignore having to force cuts on the elderly as they're threatening but it's not going to get the results that i want nor that the liberals want it's going to be something that we all go to actually expected with a bipartisan super committee but you know what is wrong i mean i fear you're right but i do hope that you're absolutely wrong and i may be on their side on this one you know my hero this week is really the c.e.o. of starbucks. where he said nobody's get my money. we're not giving that to republicans or democrats quite honestly i wish that would have been the criteria for this gang of twelve on both through pub get a corporation stay the hell out of
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a private moment in these corporations were embarrassed to give money to politicians they generally didn't you can when you're not going to have a good one we are going to go to the enemy at all really are going to believe and i do believe the founding fathers would be chest i'm amazed and horrified to see how much money plays in the role of elections so what do we do about this i mean it has to be there has to be really i mean i think people on both sides would agree it's unfortunate that you know like in the congress and the moment you're lect you're thinking two years down the road how do i get reelected well you know colorado you know they're trying to get a proposal passed through a corporation's vote in elections corporation it's ridiculous corporations because this whole push the corporations are people. and so now they get to vote in elections in a row if their proposal goes bust was leading to thirty to thirty. back to that it's. really. scary place to go ok the stock market is below eleven thousand
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again it drops today hundred seventy three points four hundred one thousand and it was yesterday. repealing health reform will cost four hundred thousand jobs a year according to c.b.s. john boehner says he got ninety eight percent of what he wanted with this deal which is expected to cost the economy one point eight million jobs mostly government contractors a month and just because it's cutting back government spending not a single jobs bill has come out of the house of representatives since the republicans took over so if we fall into another recession or a great depression will this be another republican great depression and it and is this part of the strategy to unseat president obama let's remember obama did inherit some pretty bad policies. a legacy from george w. i'm not going to say he didn't however he has done nothing to improve the situation in three years he's been there he's only exacerbated the problem so to say that it's republicans in congress when he is the one who has put forth these ideas that
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just make government huge or cheap which is the health care plan that we have still yet to have to bear the cost and feel the repercussions i mean i think it's obama's problem it's democrats problem. well how can repealing health care something that has even gone it's of a fact affect four hundred sounds a lot of already has gone through there are people experiencing projections right now there could be. like god or example you can keep. one in six whether they're in college and well let me tell you some i don't know how young or old you are but let me tell you with somebody who who had children in college who would have been off my health care it would have been very expensive on top of to wish and preexisting conditions such as diabetes and high blood pressure can no longer be included to drop them those are some of the things that in fact have been implemented in my community diabetes and high blood pressure are major major
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major problem these are big because the donor oh well as far as seniors are concerned for a pharmaceutical drugs so yes some of those things have been but let's go back if in fact the you you said it where is the job you're from the republican each where is the job to be fair we their public and candidates are talking a lot about jobs right now congressional people in congress about jobs and i do think it's time to see if there are real jobs jobs bill is the same thing that has worked for thirty years and now they are already rich and also have a long term vision we can't just say ok if we enact this next year we're going to see more jobs yet to remember that these things take a long time to. well i think they bring people to making the tax burden less on businesses i mean everybody is any trying to cut taxes but i think also we also need to see things differently i think one thing that paul ryan
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suggested and it's not separate from jobs is see medicare yeah so that's one of the jobs bill no but if it is creating a retirement that's going to create jobs and creating jobs as i said you know if making an environment it's good for creating jobs is you know step after joe we're still a free money salaries here and you have a situation where the. ninety nine er's who have been out of work all this time what america wants now are not jobs thirty years from now ten years from now they want to write and i mean only play one small role and that the government should not be creating jobs or whatever but every employee and you believe. people for people who say they are here who are who are meaningfully employed we ought to be concerned about those who are unemployed and they're there and you have the last word on that last question quickfire science nasa scientists or science is affiliate with nasa released a report suggesting what might happen if we come into contact with aliens they warn
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that aliens may destroy the human population after witnessing the damage we're doing to the environment but aside from us killing planet earth that's another reason why i might want to write humans were extremely ugly i mean here just we're here to alien and we're really ugly but i think that's. why i think it's a pile on and say jersey shore. ok. we're going to. show . you any of the answer that way it's oh yeah. you know that i think they might disagree but actually i do it because according to our. no no no they're not i'm telling you. i mean it's not all true on all of. you very much all for joining us. we
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try to. will see it will. you very much. after the break america voted for change when they elected our forty fourth president barack obama but today a lot of the voters are disappointed my dealy take all write a letter to president obama telling him what i believe he needs to do to bring the change that he promised. drives the world the fear mongering used by politicians who made decisions it's pretty clear through it if we've made who can you trust no one who is in view with a global missionary city where we had a state controlled capitalism it's called sackfuls when nobody dares to ask we do our tea question more.
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i know to president obama mr president you're running out of time at this point a double dip recession is all but certain and outside the c.e.o. boardrooms and wall street most americans never recovered from the first recession and to prevent things from getting worse. we hear that you're going to release a jobs bill next month and i as well as most progress is and frankly i think most americans around the nation even the tea partiers hope you go big because
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ultimately this is your best chance to really boost both your presidency the progressive movement and frankly to save the united states of america from economic disaster you spent the first three years of your presidency trying to be the post partisan president you promised to be while campaigning and most of us today or many of us wish that that was the campaign promise that you'd broken because look we're negotiating with the republicans hell bent on destroying your presidency has gotten us and got us a stimulus package in two thousand and nine and your own economic advisers said was far too small to repair the massive multi-trillion dollar hole blown into our economy by the banks toure's a stimulus package that may have worked to prevent a great depression for a few years but was not big enough to trigger an actual economic recovery and is running dry today just when the nation needs it the most it got us in health reform law it does a lot of good things but falls way short of the mark you so in the campaign for
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real progressive reform the single payer public option no guarantee that health insurance is a basic human right and it's a health reform law that is now just one supreme court ruling shy of being gutted by ginni thomas husband he got us a wall street reform bill that only started to address the underlying causes of the financial crisis that and then made too big to fail banks even bigger and republicans today are hard at work trying to repeal. and compromising the rule with the republicans got us a bunch of nothing to as in no plan to end the wars no plan to close gitmo no plan to solve our energy crisis no plan to bring transparency to our elections no plan to solve illegal immigration and as of right now no plan to end the bush tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires as you promised and we can let a lot of these things slide most of us couldn't imagine back in two thousand and
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nine the links that senate minority leader mitch mcconnell and his republican soldiers would go to in their efforts to sabotage your presidency even though last year he promised to take you down. to our top political priority over the next two years should be to deny president obama a short term could any of us really have guessed that the republican party would try to crash the economy just to kick you sir out of office i was predicting it but people called me a conspiracy that turns out i was right and now that we do know how totally lacking in ethics or patriotism these republicans are now that we've seen what these republicans are willing to do in this recent debt limit debate it ended with you signing your name to a piece of legislation that john boehner bragged to get ninety eight percent of what he wanted in it downgraded our credit rating and it will cost our economy one point eight million jobs by next year there are no excuses anymore you can no
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longer afford to negotiate with the hostage takers and economic terrorists in the republican party. now is the time to fight and with one year to go turn things around you have to be. you have to put forward a jobs package that invests trillions of dollars which is what your first stimulus should have invested and trillions of dollars is actually a small amount to undo the damage of literally thirty years of neglect it's left our nation's infrastructure crumbling because of ronald reagan starve the beast economics trillions can rebuild or out of our duty outdated energy grid and unleash a green revolution to kick our addiction to dirty fossil fuels and create millions of jobs in the clean tech industry there are scientists and entrepreneurs just waiting to get their technology out of the market but they need the full force of
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a government which is instead giving tens of billions of dollars to big oil they need their government to change course and get behind you energy. wealthiest nation on the planet there's no reason why we should still be depending on a nineteen seventies infrastructure some of it actually built in the one nine hundred elements in the twenty first century we're depending on stuff and if we're willing to give banks or struan the dollars to keep them from going bankrupt we should be willing to make the same investment on main street to once again have america leave the world in a solid safe and secure a middle class you know it's that right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness thing some will say this cost too much money but there's a real simple way to pay for it all and the american people are in a near total agreement on how to do it. and that's the tax the rich and our giant transnational corporations that are showing trillions in profit and pain in many
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cases no taxes whatsoever you know those millionaires and billionaires who are enjoying literally the lowest levels of taxation in fifty years make them pay their fair share as congresswoman jan schakowsky is planned and we can fund everything we need to get this economy back on track course there's no way the republicans will go along with this which is fine it actually gives you the opportunity in fact the best opportunity to not only win reelection but to get all these republican bums voted out of office and you do that by hitting the republicans over the head again and again for the next year with this bold jobs proposal make the republican party take the position that they don't believe the united states can compete with the rest of the world make the republican party take the position that millionaires and billionaires must have their tax cuts even if it means throw it overboard the kids
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and seniors make the republican party take a position that they don't want to see tens of millions of americans working and collecting good paychecks and that's what harry truman did in the republican congress in one nine hundred forty eight and he not only won the presidency but the republicans didn't control the house of representatives again for forty six years mr president there are millions of people who work their butts off to get you elected and haven't given up on you and are ready to stand behind you but you have to leave right now you have to be the loud voice for progressive change that you were in two thousand and eight if you do that if you fight and fight hard then we will snatch victory from the jaws of defeat and turn this nation around and put an end to the tea party and the republican hostage takers once and for all. but if you don't then one of these guys will get elected president that's the choice drastic
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times require bold measures we've done our part in showing up to get you elected and even taking back parts of wisconsin and a lot of efforts and a lot of other states it's time mr president for the need for you to do your part in a big way sir get out there get active tag your it mr president. and that's the big picture for snow for more information on the stories we covered visit our website to tom hartman dot com free speech dot org and r.j. dot com also check out our two you tube channel for links to tom hartman dot com this entire show is also available as a free video podcast on i tunes and we have a free tom hartman i phone and i pad app and the app store you can send us feedback at twitter at tom underscore aravind on facebook autonomy or scorecard our blogs message boards and telephone problem at line at samarra now. and don't forget democracy begins you get out there and get active your id to see the.
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