but with a lot of show i look at the real headlines with none of them are see me live in washington d.c. now it's not going to speak with gary johnson former governor of new mexico and presidential candidate for twenty two well he's been left out of all the recent televised debates held by the cable networks so we're going to find out why president obama announced yesterday that part of homeland security is going to review three hundred thousand deportation cases this after a record number of people were deported last year so is this a glimmer of hope for immigration reform or still not enough and we've heard a lot about the dangers of china getting their hands on photographs and samples of

the stealth helicopter left behind in the raid to get osama bin laden but how much does that actually matter david x. is going to tell us we're going to all that and more for tonight including a dose of happy hour but first let's take a look at what the mainstream media has decided to me. so president obama fresh off of his no i'm campaigning bus tour is now on vacation in martha's vineyard and just like any other time of the president does something normal like play golf or eat a burger the mainstream media has gone absolutely crazy over it fox news in particular of course because according them anything that obama does is wrong. for the third summer to rue president obama and his family are returning to martha's vineyard for the kishen of the price here in farming chilmark white house officials contend that the president is never really go on vacation that americans won't begrudge him time with his family but still many folks are questioning is this the

right time today the president is expected to arrive on the upper class island tomorrow for an extended vacation full of golf family biking fancy food friends for . i mean while the u.s. economy is still sagging. all right here's my issue with this for starters of the president is going on vacation a big walk i hardly think that five days away from the white house where he's still going to be surrounded by his staff is still getting calls and updates all day long from his advisors and whoever else i don't think that's so and except a book but i find it most absurd about this though is the media acting like these are the moments that define this white house let's be honest here five days isn't going to change anything if obama were in washington for those five days he still wouldn't be creating more jobs you still wouldn't be getting the economy off the ground or ending our wars or closing guantanamo bay there is so much if you choose to cover it if you choose to pick up on it to point to areas reasons for why this

president is failing or not living up to his promises and it's something i do here every day you call him out on his record you call him out on his flip flops on saying that whistleblowers are grave and should be protected while campaigning and then waging an aggressive war against them when in office and criticizing the bush administration for not adhering to the rule of law while campaigning and then doing nothing to bring them to justice without wrongdoing and instead of circumventing the rule of law even more when you get into office how about getting us into a war without congressional approval formal indefinite detention policies assassination list with american citizens on them pushing course to dismantle the need for warrants in many cases and then when it comes to the economy to budget cuts call him out but he acts like his hands have been tied it's the president to put social security and medicare on the table it wasn't because he was forced to by republicans it's because he believes that is the right thing to do and there are stary is the way to get out of a recession now those are really just a few minor examples but those are real examples those are real reasons to

criticize to publicize incessantly cover what he's doing but you know characterize a little research of memory and ability to see things in big picture form and that's something the mainstream media continues. it's because let's face it they'd rather be reporting from martha's vineyard too instead of sitting at a computer on the phone doing research connecting the dots and seeing what a president actual policies are. now since the ames straw poll and debate in iowa we've heard a lot about the lack of media coverage directed towards ron paul but he at least out of spite of the stage name on the ballot let's not forget there are other candidates out there who are being ignored almost entirely and the best example of that being a guest that we've had on this program before gary johnson former governor of new mexico and republican candidate for president of the united states governor johnson

has done is the honor of coming back on the program tonight so we can catch up on his campaign the race for the white house in general and the continually worsening situation when it comes to the economy thanks so much for coming back on face forever now last time we spoke you didn't get invited to take part in the c.n.n. poll right and i'm the guy on the bubble that is always going to be on the bubble so. i'm going to invite you to their stores alone not on the next person that would have been invited. to start complaining it is what it is and you know there are one hundred eighty four announced candidates for president states and maybe you could argue that i'm number nine on the republican ticket right now. ok with it is that good that's good enough for you to be number nine to be the guiding good albeit on this baby ideas to win so our strategy my strategy is to work new hampshire really hard to do well in new hampshire so from here i'm headed to new hampshire for the next nine days and really it's about saying the right things and it's about having a resume that would suggest that in my case what i'm talking about that i would

actually have i would actually endeavor to do what it is that i'm talking about but what do you think it is that makes you we ignored exactly right is literally very long. it's a poll deal the fact. that one or two percent i think is really irrelevant i think that what the polls show right now is that there is no front runner and when you're at one or two percent like i am and i am statistically the least known republican that's different than being known by all republicans and having virtually the same . the same poll numbers which there are others that fit in that category so a lot of bright spots here you're going to go over the i'm going to start complaining ok do you think that maybe some people consider you a threat maybe your ideas are too outlandish too far out there for the establishment well no i don't there is no conspiracy here this is strictly

a poll numbers thing polls in my opinion right now are overwhelmingly saying there is no front runner at all and if you look like i said one two percent but really it's meaningless it just says that nobody knows who you are if everybody knew who i was and i was a level you know what i should get out and that would take a problem if you were to call and see who's been trying so hard and pumping so much money into television campaigns and still not getting any results perhaps that's why there are i think there are others that fit in the same category what about i want to ask you about the libertarian vote though i just wonder because i feel like we've seen a number of developments recently for example there was a woman who works for reason magazine who was on fox news and she dared criticize ron paul and the backlash was immediate and the backlash was incredibly strong people were calling for her to be fired and i just wonder if there's this type of attitude within you know libertarian politics that you dare not say anything negative about ron paul who is treated as the messiah and i wonder if your voters

or your supposed hers supporters would be considered as betrayed ron paul oh i don't i don't believe in that at all i mean this is a movement this is about the message. and i think it's a message better delivered by two than just one and it's got to grow it's got to grow to the forty percent range to actually be in a position to govern and so i am in this to win the nomination and like i say to do that it has to grow and better two voices than one ok so now let's get to how you would govern if you were to be voted into let's look at the situation in the economy right now it's obviously not getting any better what would you do that congress might actually vote for in terms of economic policy all right forget about congress whether or not they're going to vote for it or not here's what we have to do we have to balance the budget we can't spend more money than what we take in and i think that we should scrap the entire tax system that we have and replace it with

the fair tax which for those watching if you haven't been or haven't looked at the fair tax it's fair tax dot org it's been around for a long time but it polishes all federal taxes that would be the federal corporate income tax that's the personal income tax that's the i.r.s. that's fica withholding that's medicare withholding. is unemployment insurance withholding all those things no more replace it with one federal consumption tax that would reboot the american economy to literally create tens of millions of jobs in this country overnight because why would you start up grow nurture a business anywhere other than the united states if if the corporate tax were zero you and i was talking about this the more turns out that many of the largest corporations in this country don't really pay any income tax right because they hire these massively. this is all there is go either way so what do you think is it

all so angry this is what makes us also angry is that it's not fair so would it be fair is there a percent knows that i know exactly but he ended up at the fair tax rate fair tax a good twenty twenty eight. well it's not me that has proposed this been around for quite some time but by all free market economists reckoning this is the real fair way to go about this it's fair as it as is implied by the name and it's very simple a twenty three percent consumption tax on all goods and services new goods and services and that replaces all other taxes that would be revenue neutral so we'd say we still need to cut government spending by forty three percent to balance the budget but it's also estimated that contained within all goods and services is a twenty three percent imbedded tax in all goods and services so that after a short amount of time you would actually believe that twenty three percent out of goods and services than this would end up being really neutral when it came to

prices let's get what you just said you still believe that we need to cut all federal spending by forty three percent that is a i think massive cut right that's almost fifty percent of government spending won't actually look like if something like that were to be implemented how do you describe that to americans who are already having a hard time who already don't have jobs who can't get hired if they've been out of your way of thinking the situation is going to get worse for americans i thought was interesting if i were running a very sound of government spending somebody is going to suffer from that well we're all suffering from the fact that we have to pay for this and we can't pay for it we're we're facing in my opinion a monetary collapse it's going to be a bond market collapse and it's going to be due to the fact that very simply there's no repaying fourteen trillion dollars in debt if we're going to rack up another eleven trillion over the next three years look it's not possible so the federal government is going to end up the federal reserve is going to end up

printing money to cover all of our obligation effectively monetizing the debt effectively devaluing our dollar even further to the. point the dollars that you and i have in the bank may not be worth a thing but what about what about those that don't necessarily have a lot of dollars in the bank to begin with right because everyone is not really pain and suffering right now in the same way you see c.e.o.'s on wall street. getting record bonuses why not have time travel why not apply it unemployment benefits that are on welfare that need government programs for hell none none of these are going to go away so those aren't part of the forty three percent what goes into the well being we're going to try to forty three percent we need to cut medicaid and medicare by forty three percent i am arguing that the federal government could block grant the states a fixed amount of money forty three percent less than what we're currently spending and do a good job of delivering health care to the poor and those over sixty five if we don't do this though

a lot of i think we're left with nothing better something than nothing and in this case give it to the states fifty laboratories of innovation fifty laboratories of best practice i maintain there would be best practice i mean team that we would make this work as opposed to washington top down which has us bankrupt which has us in a position where we're all going to be left with nothing we're going to have to push the wheelbarrow down to the local mart to get a loaf of bread and that has happened in the history of mankind and we're not exempt from that same outcome the plus part about this is that we can fix this we can fix this it's doable but we've got to do it and we have to do it now do you see of course if you look at the markets right now to look at the debt crisis going on in europe this is also a banking system globally that's very enterprise and so what happens if your accounts go under right now do you see. a repeat of two thousand and eight happening now in two thousand and eleven or already to places i see what happened

in two thousand and eight pale in comparison to what looms and yes this may be the trigger this may be upon us now i just argue we have an opportunity. to fix it the more time we wait the less time we have to fix this and it's not going to be a controlled situation it's going to be no appetite for for government bonds because there's no ability for the government to pay it back except to print that money and who's going to want the dollars if they're not worth anything well in the meantime people are still running to the dollars right people are still running to treasuries because for the moment those seem like a safe havens and of course gold i want to switch because they're running out of time very quickly to foreign policy questions for starters new secretary of defense leon panetta announced that apparently iraq has now said they would like our troops to say past the withdrawal date of the agreement that the surprise surprise well i wouldn't say i make of the fact that we're going to let them stay we've been asking

them to let us keep keep getting out of iraq and afghanistan and libya to moral and let's just do it we can't continue to nation build we have the same needs here in this country and i'll just say that for all the debate and discussion we would have over the problems resulting from getting out of iraq and afghanistan to morrow i just suggest that we'll have the same conversation same to be twenty five years from now if that's when we finally decide to get out and it looks like we're more on that path than we are getting out to more and i want to ask you one more thing to you yesterday we saw president obama come out and say that he is calling for for assad to step down in syria there's going to be a new round of sanctions in syria that we cannot and we should not impose our intervene there although we did the exact same thing in libya and you and i have spoken about this before but when you see these very blatant contradictions and when we choose to intervene when we choose not to do you think that america still

has a moral octal already in the same way you know we don't you know we've we've we've lessened the authority with our actions we model in other countries affairs that i would argue we should not be modeling in. now you talk about getting out of wars right and that obviously would cut defense spending and a very massive wave at the same time we have these new weapons programs weapon systems that are being developed all the time contracts the end up taking thirty years to develop that are constantly running over budget there is a grid that military contractors have on washington how would you tackle that well we do need to cut military spending by forty three percent of the. notion is that can we provide a strong national defense for our country and do that by cutting military spending by forty three percent i think the key word here is defense yes we can but no more often snow nation building. that's anything but what we've been doing for decades

and decades and decades are coming to wrap it up but i want to get very much for being here thank you. you are so much more to come on tonight's show in details are emerging about the helicopter that was blown out of the bin laden raid in pakistan so did the chinese get a glimpse of the chopper and if so how much of that actually matter for you to look at it after looking. into it only when there was a mechanism to do the work to bring justice or from what. i have every right to know what my government should do if you want to know why i pay taxes. but i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you

know sometimes you see a story and it seems so sorely sleep you think you understand it and then you did something else here's some other part of it and realized everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm charged welcomes a big. say . let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right. i think iraq is even going to well. we never got the book says they're going to keep you safe get ready because you're going to have freedom.

for. now aside from the souring of relations with pakistan there was another major concern after the raid that took out osama bin laden and his compound in about about the pieces of a stealth copter which had been blown up an abandoned at the rate of his words and those like it in the wrong hands specifically that pakistan would let china take a look and last week the financial times of port of the chinese were in fact

allowed to photograph the helicopter and even take samples of the stealth skin before it was returned to the u.s. and the outcry from the typical war hocks has been allowed other report of course has been used to push for continuous defense spending so that china's military can't get ahead but how big of a deal is it really if the chinese saw pictures or took samples how much of that information is already readily available and of china got the samples will they know what to do with them joining me to discuss this is david axe reporter for wired stranger a david i want to thank you for joining us tonight and now i know that you just got back from a long trip to china we're going to get into what you saw there but first let's start with this stealth helicopter at least the pieces of it now when this attack went down when the pictures came out and it was realized that after it had been blown up there were remnants how big of a shock was that i mean was it more of a shock that oh my gosh the u.s. actually has helicopters or that hey we have a functioning on. right that we had a functioning one was the surprise we've known the average.

observer of military developments is known for about a decade maybe even longer that that the technology existed but most of us thought it was in the strictly experimental failings and that in fact it had been abandoned years ago as being impractical all right so let's walk through this step by step we're going to get to the samples but first if it was only picture that were given to the chinese or if they were allowed to take pictures of the tail of the stealth helicopter is that a big deal i mean by this i the whole world has seen pictures and newspapers are online right. and right is a big deal well the the true secret of stealth isn't really a secret all the shaping of the vehicles what makes it's healthy to to read or whether it's a helicopter or a jet or or whatever so photographs of it if if the engineers in question didn't

understand stealth seeing photographs of the exterior of an aircraft could help clue them in thing is though that the united states unveiled its first self aircraft decades ago the f one seventeen and the b. two stealth bomber so the general shaping principles from stealth have been widely known for a very long time so seeing this particular reckons he didn't teach the chinese anything they didn't already know. the the it's knowing how to shape a stove and not the hard part it's it's managing the production of these things and putting it putting them into service and integrating them into europe military system that's what's hard everyone knows how to shape an aircraft to the radar still think that's really not the hard part ok but so then what if we go with this report from the financial times which the new york times also reported on that the chinese are in fact allowed to take samples of the stealth scan albertans that.

that depends we don't know exactly how what aspect of the skin might be stealthy it's possible there was a special paint used to absorb heat so that the aircraft didn't give off an infrared signature we're not really sure about that but again i wouldn't worry this technology is not that old the cat was out of the bag back in the ninety's the united states lost an f one seventeen stealth fighter over serbia and the wreckage from that aircraft wound up in chinese hands that was when the chinese you know gained access to some of the secrets of stealth that we were trying to protect so you know we burn that bridge a decade ago so the wreckage of that helicopter doesn't teach anything that it didn't already know ok now i want to go to your trip from china now you said that what you reported on while you were there isn't anything that you could have reported on from any other or isn't anything that you couldn't have reported on from another location but then let's just talk about what you saw and what you

observed in terms of china and terms of their military build up their naval buildup is there anything that you learned that there is now there is a public knowledge so far. well china for me was just a working vacation so it wasn't really i wasn't trying to draw conclusions about the rise of china chinese military developments but i mean i gained impressions that i think helped shape my use china has some serious underlying quality control issues that are why we known you see glimpses of it in news that doesn't leak out into the wider world and. you know we're not sure what the implications of those are going to be and what between bernie highrises and high speed train crashes and safety issues in an alleged nuclear accident on the last few months or is over the last few years that's indicative of on some serious faults in chinese engineering and construction and management and regulation and how deeply

moved problems are going to undermine the chinese economy and the chinese rise i don't think we quite know yet i think it could take something truly catastrophic to break the party's all on information in china to show the world truly how dysfunctional china can be now really quickly do you think they're having a bit of a problem when it comes to our weapons systems we have the whole stealthily around and right about twenty two of the f. thirty five you know do we need to start focusing more on how we're building things and the quality of it oh yeah that cuts both ways quality control is a problem united states as well i would just argue that china is or a bigger part in order of magnitude our data want to thank you so much for joining us tonight and of course well see there has been you know a lot of outcry from all those people that say that china is our next threat or any to keep building up our military and that's why this is so important but at the end

of the day maybe some secrets are allowed out without the thanks so much. well pleasure. now let's turn our attention to syria yesterday we told you got president obama's call for syrian president bashar al assad to step down from his position of leadership as well as the announcement of sanctions and as you pointed out the president's rhetoric and his statement the no outside power can or should impose on this transition it was quite different when we heard just months earlier from the very same administration in regards to libya so all the domestic media paints a very simple story of the masses rising up against bashar al assad perhaps obama has learned that intervention into foreign civil conflicts isn't always as black and white as it seems and if so when all the u.s. media learned that very same lesson he also happy to simply regurgitate whatever the u.s. government's official stance is without any skepticism without any analysis and it turns out all those vast ideological differences between say fox and c.n.n. or m.s.m. b c they tend to disintegrate when it comes to foreign policy fox news is happy to

rail against the evil of without even having a reporter on the ground c.n.n. brings on different after dissident to drum up international support for intervention and the best part of the us media's coverage of syria is it simply par for the course whether iraq bosnia or libya it's always the same so must be nice for the us government to know that when it comes to decides or when it comes to intervening either economically or militarily in a foreign country it can always count on the u.s. media to have its back artie's wary of the notion that takes us to the war torn country with the latest. the city of there is sort of maybe liberated but in the last few days it suffered a brutal occupation i mean my family's a sponge it's not the rates put up barricades it became a case city were hiding just like hostages for more than a week claimed beyond fought against armed groups that had taken control of the city and had been terrorizing its residents. soldiers of the syrian army i live in

the city of there was so near the iraqi border there's officials are saying operation is now over that the city has been freed from armed groups as you can see people are welcome in the soldiers as the waiters in other parts of the country the troops little assad's officials crack down are far less welcome and a similar offensive against so-called terrorists in the coastal city of latakia the opposition claims government troops killed almost fall to civilians while human rights groups report the number of deaths in the country could be almost as high as two thousand some say assad is simply using his army to silence peaceful demonstrators across the country. the syrian army hasn't met any resistance in the cities across the country were maybe there was some so-called bandits among protestors and maybe they use the momentum to spread. but if so where have

they been when the army. armed groups is just a theory invented by the state they have an excuse in the cities. in new liberated there is or life seems question back to normal and markets reopened and roads bridges days ago were empty are again filled with cars but reminders of the recent struggles are still hard to find and the most obvious one is fear refresh our t. syria. well still to come tonight everyone's favorite tea partiers caused another media ruckus after she bailed on an interview with piers morgan going to give you all the details for tonight's poll times like that and the obama administration holds the record of her deportation the one documented immigrants now looks like they're trying to change that policy but is it enough to have peace with hispanic population that's next.