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of those developments there in libya in about thirty minutes from now in the meantime it's all special report now looking at life after the death penalty in the u.s. . and wonders sister debbie lives not far from the penitentiary town she too used to take care of her nephew quite a lot when wagner was out on the road well and laura knew her well. we're all for justice if it had been anyone. in our we'd been right there with bales you know ringing it because it's payback it's been it's you know whatever but when it's someone that that you care about and if you did the same you know for them when they kill you it's mixed emotions

it's it's unexplainable. it's sad. it's. uncalled for. and. so wastes. he was the lasts. part of me and my sister in. his car. he was a lesser child she's gone his car and now they're all. in that society. do i feel responsible for helping in execution yes. do i feel bad

about it. now do i feel bad for a greeting that jim and. debbie went through yeah i feel sorry for their loss i do i feel they lost and more than i did. they lost vonder and sean i just lost my father did they lose more you bet grandfather jim sean's aunt debby refused to come to the execution on february fourth one thousand nine hundred nine about six minutes to die.

i don't know what i thought. i saw him and got out of it as the person i tried not to think about like that because i knew it i didn't want to think like that but i was so angry i still wanted it to go on and be what it was. and i have sometimes for stuff most of the. violence it's done it's done deal done and over the years i've not had to worry this way just as an athlete what if he gets out he gets out and i mean stilts i had no worries jane years closure.

lorna know well we're not the only ones present a chance execution that night there were also those who had tried to save him. thanks. jones execution left scars on his lawyer steve press and. i.

think. steve still lives in the little town of norman near oklahoma city. specializing in final appeals afic and damaged he has lost eleven of the men he has defended and succeeded in saving only two of them. i know here so many people who support the death penalty say well it's part of our system we have it well the only reason that we have it as part of the of the system is because they went back to change it and they they support the system and i'm neutral and they don't know why it's something they don't know firsthand. or even second you know what. a horrible. process it is. i don't know when told one of their own family members has to go through them and suddenly there. they see everything wrong. with that case and

others that shawn's because i was pretty close to home. destroyed my faith in the american legal system before doing death row cases i had the highest confidence in our courts and our law enforcement because you know i was a cop for ten years. and i practiced civil law and i worked in the courts on our part that things were good and far and it was seeing the machinery of the state moving so venomously. vemma not only against these people on death row two to extinguish their lives and ignoring good evidence and ignoring constitutional violations. that just took it out of me. it's made me it's need better i'm burned out. i really

dislike the system i dislike being a lawyer. that's what it is that. steve no longer attends the executions. many people in oklahoma claim that the executions are humane and him as. i'm heading to mcallister in the eastern part of the state where the penitentiary is located to find the man who executed shown sellers. in oklahoma the prison guards carry out the death sentences.

the simplest way is to run an ad in the local newspaper looking for officers who participated in the execution. i have no problem there are. you know i member shontelle or god it was a harsh guy that actually it was not an adult at. work now when i first. became any. thing i know xan. thought of while i remember that exchange. when i want a flash bangs occasion. was involved in our morning.

house and all the drunks only fifty two executions approximately sixty executions. fred cook was in charge of sean's execution his father also executed prisoners in the electric chair fred is retired now but about johnny and then and he would get a key and maybe he had. i mean you know he is

guilty he he don't need a one note he weighs a bad it and. so nice interesting to me if and we can't be mown death row nto such damage it was found execute him and then we executed. once they complete their were they no good. they don't have a good omen table meynell two ways about it and so there it is. hey don't know. what was going through sean's mind during his final moments. when an execution takes place a lethal sudden says are injected from this room through these holes in the wall street recruits three citizens to carry out this task the law guarantees that they remain anonymous.

during the entire execution only the guards are in direct contact with the condemned prisoners. tim guarded the inmates during their final hours. lane was one of the guards that would strap them to the gurney. dark as well. jane would bring the lethal chemicals and see that the execution ran smoothly. fred the oldest plans a procedure. eight nine minutes before the execution is good you were moving from the one they say i'll take him and sad

execution chamber with a payment of six all sort of restraint of when they first come out of the so they had his look on or thirty five known for twenty years and be known for a long time have his look at. this belief that you're going to be one of them it's going to work i'm in there and you know hank and you know legard he any day golden or like a man but i wish it was somebody you wish it was somebody who knows. well you said you walk most of the gurney they look at you because they don't know they've never done this before there's a sense of stress maybe nervousness. as far as you know same one individual that once they entered the door to the chamber the nerves got to him so bad that they became weakened in the evenings and you know

that he's kind of and strapped down payment for a step and grabbed him by the arm and you know just held him up in a system under the gurney we're looking at you like for some direction you don't you know sort of the way on the gurney and they look at you like you can you know i've come sort of in i'm filming derp you know i did it. you know and then you get up there in the what you want to do now you know and was would you lay down here history and what's wrong. and know as well why you do it. you can't tell no one answer i'm just going to keep doing it and what you don't spread down and they look at you you know i've had him look at me. like i want to say buyers i saw him i just don't look at him i didn't i just i would look at him and i know there was. so much i don't want to say anything so mom cried some doubt that point toward and say that they excuse again or before he says that he waits a little bit and that like for the governor in case the governor cuomo and that

will that's the only way that the education should be stopped if the governor calls at that point and at that time they will start administer. a system you have that moment of time to think you know how to talk about individual forty five minutes ago when individuals are dead. and. it's a humbling experience i mean. at times it's just disbelief you know . because some of them i know for a tune of fourteen year. you will never forget about it you think about it until the day you know. it in fiction how can that not a fiction that you're taking some guy even though he's done something to somebody did all this and you're taking some guy stripping down and basically you're putting him to death because you're part of the whole process and do know where you are it

bothers me to lose today i had nightmares i wake up waiting i wake up with herbal nightmares that they won't do no good to tell you because you would never say it unless you've been there. twelve years after the execution of son sellers i met only one participant of the story who didn't seem to have the slightest doubts. this is oklahoma county's district attorney the man who demanded the death sentence

for sean. old maisie held office for close to twenty five years he is known in the us for being the d.a. who has obtained the most death sentences around sixty. three. macy always claimed that the death sentence has a dissuasive effect and he reiterated that opinion during sean's trial. this may not be the best way to stop the killing but it's the only way i know why these jurors are saying look you go and you kill three people in this can't really give you the death bed live awfully somebody else one. of. the district attorney's arguments always had the backing of the public.

bob mazie the onion olding d.a. is now retired and lives on his farm a few miles from oklahoma city. out here missing the executions of. white hot. whores my son's nose not much you know our jobs a prosecutor from running the charges he's at the house our lives and our usual death penalty. i don't like the satisfaction of joining moves and. i use a looser or a low hopefully. almost none of the law enforcement people blue agree that he lives i deterrent oh goodness i have lizards just

as you say you hope that it is a deterrent and so it is not proven oil have you. there's no way i know of for you when you stop someone of news of. a much fear district attorney who has never witnessed a single execution now admits that there has never been any perth's that the death penalty has a dissuasive effect on criminality. the facts of error in the twelve years since sean's execution oklahoma's climate has not decreased. or on leno or opioid to crime as on who was president especially directed to young women and children and. i can explain to you why it's

happening. america crimes are rarely horrible crimes i don't know how to exploit it. or if i would see had several cases one of this county were or friend or husband and smashed a baby against a wall and i don't want to live. the person who could do that until a baby. a crime was that we're dealing with i don't want rehabilitation work i rather think you committed his horrible horrible crimes. i was beyond redemption

how he had to watch somebody thought. and that's alienated serrano. because. if people only each other there would be killers you. can eat. the. meat. eat.

eat eat eat eat was the ticket. for many citizens of oklahoma the bible offers an irrefutable justification for the death penalty particularly the verses which are subject to widely differing interpretations about an eye for a night a tryst for a target yet pastor john duncan accompanied shontelle and many other prisoners both men and women in their final moments now he no longer carries out this mission. does that scripture justify what we're doing today. you know. are we doing it today. because we are punishing people and my life

it's been it's been eight years. and now i can finally talk about fully talk about what i can't. there are regret you know help the person not that i was in favor of putting the person to bed nothing was going to stop that i was there to help that person and i thought i was i would minister to the person i would talk to them i cannot do this any longer i can't put words in god's mouth but i don't think you would want the death penalty i think you would want us to share a laugh and how to have a laugh in christ. can

believe in god or. do you fear his judgment you know what well more so you memories and so much for him. even though the chance that god is against death penalty.

six years after sean's execution the supreme court at long last ruled against capital punishment for minors. today three thousand three hundred prisoners are waiting on death row throughout the united states. and oklahoma the mortal remains not claimed by family are buried in the little cemetery in front of a penitentiary. q

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