tv [untitled] August 22, 2011 10:30pm-11:00pm EDT
10:30 pm
10:31 pm
10:32 pm
hardest time for you said it i read it right takes time to respond to my brilliance engaging viewer comments from facebook twitter and you tube so we've got something to say i listen now first i want to respond if you were to wash my interview with jamil bowie from the american prospect on president obama's record of the african american community the airstrike to nine hundred eighty two said on you tube alone though she doesn't realize it has just made a classic mistake unfortunately this interview appears to make the assumption that the quote black community is a monolithic entity comprised of individuals individuals who are all exactly the same or experiencing the exact same high. if you have the exact same thoughts you all just happen to claim that certain people represent them as leaders and you act the exact same way so you know i have the odd is this one one of the hardest things guests on the show to try to have them comment analyze on something as a larger problem to have one person speak about a larger group of people who obviously don't all feel the exact same way but of
10:33 pm
eleanor myself claim to speak for the entire african-american community and obviously rise of the entire african community does not feel think live the same way i did need to communicate otherwise but you have to look at polling you have to look at the representatives of the congressional black caucus and do your best to get a perspective but it's never going to apply to every single member of any group i want to respond to if you were to watch my interview with and of his sperry and all the rest of the looters in the u.k. including one man who was sentenced to six months in prison for stealing a water bottle eight said on you tube guys if you're going to commit crimes that joran barclays or goldman sachs those people commit all kinds of financial crimes and they never have to worry about doing time when i have to agree here things of stealing a lot of bottle smoking and we that makes you enemy then one of the states we use swindle the american people through fraudulent loans and hey you just get a little slap on the wrist if you can call it that i think that it's high time we rethink who the real criminals in this country are the ones committing petty crimes
10:34 pm
over the ones who recklessly destroyed the world economy with little or no repercussions and who have continued to fight tooth and nail against any regulations would prevent them from doing so again and lastly i'd like to respond to a you tube viewer boss hog seventy one sixty nine who said a lot is so progressive in many of her ideas that she refuses to follow europe's lee by adopting their naked news formats get with the times the load him to say that my progressive ideas you know they don't go so far as to do the news naked keep dreaming sorry my rantings today i will be back with more as usual later that week. yes i have to this group anti-sex is out of the get and this time their crosshairs are pointed out the contractor vanguard defense industries after making an announcement last week via twitter to engage in n f f b i friday or hashtag f f f seems that now the group is targeting private corporations who work with the government and law enforcement in a recent interview with ted carroll's anti-sex of porter explained any private
10:35 pm
corporation supporting u.s. military or law enforcement operations are legitimate targets in our eyes in for guarding the f.b.i. our especially our enemies so it is no surprise the happiness released internal e-mails and thousands of documents from this defense for that to give you a little background vanguard are based in texas and is responsible for projects like shadow hawk unmanned aerial vehicle that can be enforced by law and used by law enforcement and the military now for a firm who prides itself on security think that they were prepared for an attack in those behind and i think an offshoot of anonymous another reason the anti so in their hit list is because of their senior vice president richard garcia if you check on his credentials garcia also used to work for the f.b.i.'s field office in las vegas so in other words he's the bull's eye for anti-sex latest operation but here's what i find most interesting about this but activist group took time to address the entire hacking community after dumping the d.t.i. confidential information and in
10:36 pm
a statement and. we are doing this not only to cause embarrassment and disruption in the vanguard defense industries but to send a strong message to the hacker community white hat sellouts law enforcement collaborators and military contractors be where we're coming for your mail spools that history files and confidential documents when they say white house sell out i refer you to those who are talented with their hacking skills but rather than infiltrating they choose to work for the government and attempts at protecting federal service and systems so earlier this month we told you how the feds sent several recruiters to desk on i think conference to try to win over some of those talented individuals and attempts at employing them as white hat years. but there's a lot of competing attitudes here and for every person that says don't sell out somebody else is handing over a business card. it really you know there's a lot of competing trying to demographics but a different groups are about so some people think you know it was because you're an artist. if you get in the government is that there's others that recognize hey i
10:37 pm
can do your work from within the government were if i do see bad actions you know that my job is to stop that. so it seems like this really is a point of division within the hacking community to work with the government actually not work with the government but in the meantime with this latest attack i think i want to say that it's a one point hacktivists zero points for the government and our security contractor friends. now the tea party been called everything from patriots to racists to terrorists and so i saw the movie come to life and all began with an anger towards wall street bailouts and the attention turned towards obama's health care reform then i asked anti washington sentiment lead to tea party candidates shaking up elections and helping republicans win a majority in the house and then most recently we saw the movement take center stage in the debt ceiling debate now democratic members of congress have gone on the attack for the tea party's fiscal out of maxine waters so the tea party could go straight to hell but as one time grassroots movement now mostly swept up by big money corporate donors it's been
10:38 pm
a little hard to figure out where exactly they stand because fracturing on economic principles something that's already occurring but our guest tonight argues that after attending tea party meetings observing them for two years he's figured out what it is that they really want a christian nation he writes while the cameras are on a large rallies the talk is all about fiscal responsibility taxes tarp deficits when the lights are off fall about jesus with god thrown in on occasion for israel so let's see some more proof the sea of social and not fiscal conservatism is the conservatism is the tea party's real goal joining me to discuss this is a sour blogger at the a want to thank you so much for joining us tonight and if you could start by telling us about yourself why it is that you were going to tea party rallies for two years is it because you believed because you thought maybe you wanted to be a tea party member or were you trying to infiltrate per se. i would say and as i said in my article i would say that i was originally sympathetic to to the tea
10:39 pm
party movement as i saw it described. in the kind of meeting. the meeting announcements that went out at the time i was in north dakota. and that was you know it's not a it's not a large state it's not a particular state because it is a large state such a populous state but it but they are very politically active in north dakota has traditionally been at the forefront of a lot of different movements for the last hundred years so i was interested in going to some of these meetings i went to a couple and originally i was very sympathetic they were basically people who for the last i would say twenty years been getting screwed. kind of the direction. of american economics for more attention to wall street and start profits and less attention to a middle class income. but so when was it they were you decided that the fiscal issues when it came to of course like i said protesting lottery bell out
10:40 pm
protesting health care reform now not liking the debt ceiling to be raised what is it that you decided that it was really more about religion and more about creating a christian nation is that. well i think that the good of the throughline started become more apparent about a year ago. that it's not just that it's the party is only about wanting a christian nation it's the organized elements of the tea party are about. the rest as most tea party people will tell you is a is a really difficult movement to nail down you don't know are you really don't want to admit they are about any one single issue so that you can kind of move around a life and not be held accountable and at the same time call for a lot of it in what but that the organized elements for the owners that were there before they were the kind of christian coalition elements of growth read the info
10:41 pm
bush you know announce that only the anti-gay elements are those because they already had such a good organization before and they had networks of sets or when it came time to as is now used as a primary you can candidates within their own party. they already have the infrastructure organizational infrastructure in place to bring to bear on mary poll and that means that those groups could start to control the conversation within the tea party and tea party candidates or or those who want to tea party support. needed to be first and foremost cultural conservatives and secondarily they needed to tow it you know do the lip service to economics and you. i think you'll find this in the fact that there just is no single unit out there who's associated with their b.g.
10:42 pm
party says it is. who who isn't hard core social concert you know i think we see that you know throughout the entire republican party and so i'm just wondering here you know because we've heard a lot about the tea party being co-opted by court by corporate donors by the koch brothers who have made it no longer just a grassroots organization and the same way do you think that they were just co-opted by the religious right in that sense i mean the candidates that we see now even for a president they want to ride some of this tea party wave including herman cain or michele bachmann or rick perry is trying to lean that way too i think that they have all made it pretty clear that social conservatism comes before fiscal conservatism sure. but it because those groups are already been there a long time ago they just found it. the media that stuck paying attention to them as as a legitimate movement. in the larger scale suddenly started paying attention to them when they said that they were about reducing it or being just flew
10:43 pm
conservative or treating american standing like your family pocketbook it in you know once they notice that the media listened to that message where they had stopped listening to the you know anti-abortion and right to life messaging dismissing it as just scary right wing christian conservative message that it didn't wasn't wasn't just you know that salt sound political direction. and then they got all this media attention the money people are really you know koch brothers who are the whole human for all this now that the brothers say they started helping organize and giving them a platform better allow them to get media attention. kind of last since you know eight what would you say that they've been successful and they have a shifted the entire direction now because in
10:44 pm
a watching right any of the recent republican debates with a presidential candidate it seems like they're getting very very very far to the right when it comes to all the social issues so how they actually managed to move the entire republican party the party way included more of the right on social issues. i think arabs i think that they have been able to do that without a doubt and you'll see you know movements in in minnesota. we were headed you know for every state that now has a good marriage bill or something like that you have a state that is putting a constitutional amendment defining marriage as between a man and a woman in wisconsin the just completely defined and planned parenthood the state runs and you know these are the tea party candidates not all the organized. republican completely cut the republican takeover of the legislature in the governor's office and one of the first things they did in their budget bill was defund planned parenthood now that's you know if you call they're saving money
10:45 pm
expenditures but honestly in the long run i think anybody will tell you the funding to planned parenthood want to cost me more in social services absolutely much jeff i am definitely there already i don't think of a good way to save money is just a plan of her weight a lot of thank you so much for joining us tonight you know it does seem like whenever there is a lot of populist anger you can try to find a way to use that here advantage and perhaps you know organize well organized groups like you mentioned and then get their ideas back in the spotlight thanks so much thank you. now still counting i wrote a book calling medicare as social security unconstitutional but now it's presidential campaign time to ignore that very same book we have more natural time segments last week of corn is that a promise of rape are taken as a very start policing the crowd perhaps we are just not. you know sometimes you see
10:46 pm
10:47 pm
10:48 pm
and it's time for sides told time a warden goes to texas governor rick perry so the republican has only been in the twenty twelve presidential race for a week he's already made several gaffes say perry is a good texas good old boy he says things that way for thinking shoots from the hip if you will so apparently we're also right before thinking because last november the governor released that the two hundred forty page book makes the argument that medicare social security and other inside of the programs violate the constitution but now that perry is on the national stage his book is being dissected for info on how presidents. how president perry would govern and that has the perry campaign a little worried the just nine days after becoming a candidate rick perry scheme is now trying to disavow his own book the one just released nine months ago when asked about the book the communications director for rick perry ray sullivan said that he had never heard the governor suggest that social security was unconstitutional and then made the claim that set up is not
10:49 pm
meant to reflect the governor's current views on how to fix the program but it gets even better do in the save interview with think progress sullivan went on to say that up is a look back not a path forward it was written as a review and a critique of fifty years of federal excesses not in any way as a twenty twelve campaign blueprint or manifesto that the our guys are earning his money if he can make that claim with the story but here's where things got even more confusing for p.r. but just last night at a campaign event in iowa a person asked governor perry how do you fix the entitlement programs and perry said quote have you read my book fed up get a copy and read it for you know somebody should really tell rick perry that it's campaign is trying to disavow that same book but it's pretty clear that he didn't get the disavow and discredit i think progress also has video very perry touting his book a campaign stop last week when asked an education question. so
10:50 pm
as you can see rick perry has a blueprint for what a perry white house would look like but his campaign is trying like hell to back away from that book that is hate on the right hand of the know what the left and doing i think it is the latest stumble just adds more fuel to the fire that texas governor rick perry isn't ready for prime time but he is ready to weigh in our monday tool time award between perry and michele bachmann this q.p. presidential race is going to be a lot of fun to cover. ok
10:51 pm
time for happy hour that's monday and joining me tonight is our tea correspondent christine for zeile and alex sites all the reporter and blogger for think progress dot org hey guys that are monday thanks for joining me well as we normally do on mondays we get a good news that just getting bloomberg came out with a new report today about the federal reserve we just keep finding out information about what happened exactly how much money was given in the bailouts who was given to and bloomberg got this only filing a greater integration act request and it turns out the federal reserve also gave out public funds one point two trillion dollars in fact in there we have some of the banks who receive those funds morgan stanley's citi bank of america so there's not i smell every every day you get information of how much more money they gave out to save the economy i mean i think it's a little frightening that we're just finding this out now i mean thank god for for your requests but to find this out so much later it actually. happening where was
10:52 pm
the media where were the financial journalists why was this kept a secret for so long and why aren't i hearing anyone get angrier or i don't know how long it actually took them for the requests to be honored for them to get the information but the federal reserve also kept this information a secret from the government accountability office so they were doing everything they could to keep it off the books and the fed is notoriously secretive and they when they released you know meetings of their minutes they don't say who said what but this is like beyond even i mean keeping it even from other government agencies really i think has got to go and they also gave huge amounts of money to foreign banks not just american banks which makes it all the more outrageous i mean you know in hindsight i guess the economy has stabilized and they have made it have to profit some eight billion dollars or something like that but still definitely doesn't cause a lot of confidence in the oh it was either i guess it depends on what side of the tail it was either stabilize or they just kicked the can down the road and now are in for an even bigger problem he was right in the fed needs to be audited. i don't
10:53 pm
think the fed should think it's a bad idea at all all right let's move on to. the next story he organization which i find there and takes a little annoying personally they are going to start a porn web site can you believe that they said would you just read to me and if i can go that they're going to go so far as being able to be rated as triple x. they're going to have enough adult contact some content on the website to make it qualify for triple x. but there will also be some graphic images of animals i don't get is how this is new because we all see these peta commercials before. really i just you know i just don't understand why they have to use sex to sell because sex sells i have no problem obviously sex sells great doesn't really have to do whatever i guess the no one else wants to see images of
10:54 pm
a good. animals in gruesome positions or of you know turkeys getting their beaks cut off no one wants to see that so in order to force people to look at it he has to use the one tool that has worked for the last hundred several hundred years or maybe maybe the government should then start using sacks to not sell cigarettes or something right instead of putting the scary pictures of the fetuses in the black lungs and everything on it peter should be using the dead animal pictures there you go but i mean who is going to go to a porn website that has like terrible graphic images of animals going to do it and without getting they're not going to respond there you see you know make it right i mean that's still a very effective business model because you're going to go once looking for porn and then you need this is disgusting animal things i mean i would imagine one would do that and then probably never go back again i mean i don't know it just seems like another publicity stunt for peta and what about the people for the ethical treatment of women i think that seems a little bit degrading i mean you guys twice before that up and i could art was how about once they actually launched the website you could take it out and then report
10:55 pm
back to. us. well this one is just really good take a look at this new story this is a play that in alabama the police set up a sting to it was dead beat dad. to free. speech rights. yes. ok. so you. know the story here why or why the recall of a deadbeat dad is because these are men who aren't paying their child support or alimony and so on her to go after them and police to set up a sting and it's so easy you just say you won free tickets to a football game and they come flocking in yeah i mean i am all about going you know making child support and all that but this just like really adds insult to injury and would be one thing to have them come in for the faith to get away but to have
10:56 pm
the news cameras there and balloons and a banner like have them talk about how excited they are to win the tickets it just goes a little bit too far from what it's becoming the reality t.v. what other shows we have out there like that cheaters you know where are they when they catch you doing bad things on camera you know what else is there oh there's the to catch a predator i must be some show where there is a predator of course incredibly word in there i don't know that i really struggle with this and by the way there was at least one mom that i. called in there too it's a picture of her free. and she was in a tough sport i think it's creative i think it's a creative method to find these people who are not doing what they're supposed to be doing on the other hand to what extent is it legal to go to these you know measures to get you to set up these kind of things we see this all the time and like here people my laugh about it because it's just trying to get a guy who. you know like you're saying has actually paid. how the earlier is child support but then sometimes maybe the f.b.i.
10:57 pm
so it's not the type of action where i would never actually i didn't unless the way it was really really did you feel kind of it was like everyone fairly and then he was on the ground with handcuffs. and should be doing is paying as far as well so you get. but there is there a need for him to be all over the evening news like you know looking like a fool really is a right to privacy and nothing about the news in this country they love nothing more than getting pretty silly totally played along with their there are little things like how excited are you to win these tickets like they're lying to his face . ok all right you guys thanks for joining me tonight that's a very nice show thanks for tuning in and make sure that you can come back tomorrow he end up felonious monk is going to be on the show to discuss his latest feelings about obama and washington and in the meantime governor has become a fan of the a lot of still on facebook and follow us on twitter you missed any of tonight's show or any other night staten island youtube dot com a flash they want to tell and coming up next is adam versus the.
10:58 pm
10:59 pm
23 Views
Uploaded by TV Archive on