tv [untitled] August 23, 2011 12:30am-1:00am EDT
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well you. really do believe this is science technology from the realms. we know the future covered. welcome back you're watching r.t. coming to you live from moscow and breaking news this hour one of gadhafi sons considered by many as his father's successor appears in tripoli improv supporters this by rebel claims he had been detained by the storm to see a day ago the information about these arrests was also confirmed by the international criminal court has added to the confusion over who's in control of the capital as both government and insurgent forces insist they have the upper hand . also doubts are cast over whether a rebel victory would actually immediately be in people in control their destiny as x. words point to edge of where those who fought for the revolution added up with
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a government they didn't choose and says finding and leave us still rages on the western oil companies have already started circling around the violence torn country once again sparks concerns the so-called battle for democracy was a war for black gold all along. those who have eyes here in our team that's how our interview british author owen jones talks about the problems in society the recent unrest in england has exposed. i'm joined by owen jones author a book called the demonization of the working classes thanks for talking to r.t. the demonization of the working classes what do you mean by that and what to do with the riots i think there's been this myth which the political establishment and journalists alike embrace basically everybody in britain is middle class and all
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that remains of the old working class is a sort of problematic for some of the class of what we saw with these rights advocates it's i think linked to the sense because it's helped reinforce this i fear as if everyone in the class which is waiting you know which is not only lazy in fact with but also violent which is how the government of light in commentators have been portraying it why is there this myth about the working classes how was it created and why the riots being blamed on them well i think what we saw in the 1980's in this country was an attack on a lot of the working class britain industries that sustained a lot of communities and institutions you know not trade unions council housing values in communities were very strong like solidarity in favor of rugged individualism by the end of the eighty's there wasn't the same sense of being been able to be proud of that in working class everyone supposed to seem to become middle class you know that that's what aspiration means in britain so because of
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all that was the working class it came to trade in a very negative way particularly as we became all equal and in a more unequal society people justify that inequality by saying rightfully the people at the bottom of that as they deserve to be there the lazy violent. stupid and that is a justification for inequality and that's not to say they want social problems in this country like violence and crime or whatever but the real info. people marks of work in some of the communities were things that affected by the top of the thirty four employed people facing chasing every drop so i think problems what we saw last week another a whole range of other social problems i think all employment and poverty provide for a tile ground from the growth so it's not to justify it is just to try and explain why these things happen in order to stop it from happening again so using
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politicians have been quick to blame all of this on secret lives in saying this is a broken society do you think that's just a way of covering up the ills of a society they've created absolutely i mean basically what they're trying to do is turn a social issue into a moral issue they're reinforcing the idea that if you or your benefits are part of mass unemployment that your behavior is at fault when actually you know in this country now there's a problem of lack of jobs we've got two hundred million people unemployed and one of the million incapacity benefits are going to put into work as often half a million vacancies there's not enough jobs to go around it's very convenient for the government to say actually all these people on unemployment benefits are is the wrong behavior for all and that's what's neat and that's what needs to be sorted out not the issue of grass the general agree with some extent knowing that these people who work clean have no idea that violence is not the answer i mean no one's justify what happened and understanding it is the whole starting what has to be
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this must never happen again people must never be terrorized in their communities as they were last week with what in five people young people out of a job only takes a small proportion of those people who feel that have to risk to act in this way to bring chaos and violence the streets of our city and i mean there's other issues too i think i think consumerism society has a lot of responsibility in britain your status has so much to do with what you possess. what you wear. for a lot of all young people want to be part of the society but there's a whole group of people particularly poor communities who feel they have no access to it and in a perverse way i think that's what you saw in places like hackney where you've got some of the poorest people living on some of the richest right in the center of london and i think that kind of inequality mixed with hyper consumerism helps create that situation that we saw in the shop you mentioned this inequality in the
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u.k. is causing for some time there's been some mix rich and poor living in the same areas bring in council houses and filling areas and vice a versa you know nothing else works. i think the problem. is you end up or lots of shops pricing out what the people who live there actually pushes up the cost of living for the people but yes i think mixing and social mixing is good you only have to look at paris where the rich are concentrated in the middle and the poor concentrate around the idea the so-called fact it's good to be mixing the problem in london is when the cities in the western world the top one percent are over two hundred sixty times richer than the bottom ten percent so they see you have people living alongside some of the richest people in the world looking at live they will in all likelihood never help and what we need to do is tackle inequality because at the moment people are getting a fair share of the british economy so how do you bridge saying well we need more
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progressive taxation we need higher taxes on the rich in order to take more people at the bottom out of taxation altogether and we need a living wage so people bottom especially a place like london the most expensive cities on the planet and then right in the country is just not enough to live on you can't support a family with it so these are huge social problems that aren't being addressed and we have these problems at a time when people at the top are richer than ever is also. case then of the bad example being set from the top down five being m.p.'s expenses scandal bankers bonuses still getting paid despite the crisis if you look at the m.p.'s in particular he stood up to the now sleaze allude to just three years ago they were embroiled in a huge expenses scandal let's be honest they were taking money from the taxpayer to get the same sort of wide screen t.v. that would be carted out of shops last week give you one example general councilman
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back. he thought that amanda actually taking a salute is he claimed eight and a half thousand pounds for buying all of them televisions that whilst one twenty three year old has just been sent to prison for six months for stealing three hundred fifty worth of water to the right so yes we have a bankers who plunged us into an economic crisis when the politicians stole from the taxpayer we recently have the news international scandal where police were being bribed by journalists what happened last week was more disorderly the example of being set by the top the way the government is dealing with this choosing it's a way influence kind of legitimize right wing ideals of things like type of policing cracking down on social media i think these rights have been manipulated by the government quite frankly people are understandably angry and they're scared but what this government is doing is using that to justify attacks on people on benefits we've seen attacks on single parents this idea fatherless families are
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responsible we've seen recently david starkey the historian trying to scapegoat black people in black culture and we're now talking about the father terry crackdown in terms of law and order attacks and civil liberties by government which promised to defend civil liberties against the attacks from new labor and even as you say attacks on the idea that social media to replace that which didn't even happen a lot of authoritarian regimes when they were all poising of government are mentioned in starkly that you're involved in the bait. he. mentioned the whites of the comebacks and other courses there has been talk of multiculturalism being all over the failure of it being the cause of these riots do you give any kind of credence to that argument about the racial issue coming into play in these riots let me be clear about david starkey gray said with a very racist this was an attempt to scapegoat people and this of a whole range of people involved from different ethnic backgrounds a common factor with all of them is poverty and unemployment and again it's not
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just a creation what happened was completely inexcusable if you have enough people who don't feel to have a future of whatever ethnic background they're only takes a small proportion to respond in this outrageous way some kind of a trip to london but multiculturalism and ethnic groups have nothing to do with what happened we still haven't seen the full effects of the austerity cuts things like higher education police cuts still planned and going through when it does things things will get worse i think the danger is that these riots a dark force of much worth. the perfect storm because the haven't yet as rising youth unemployment the government took away the educational maintenance allowance which was paid to pour over six in your office then education university tuition fees have been troubled all of these think either breeding will breed continue to breed future but more devastatingly increasing numbers of people
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who feel they have and they feel they have nothing to look forward to and i think we could see a lot worse down the line records the government's response many of those as kneejerk but the same time seems to be mirroring public opinion the public want the government to crack down on the perpetrators and they want them to be punished severely not think that's a good idea look people are angry people are scared because of what happened but this should be a test of democracy in a country like this that he already has. an inevitable backlash that should not let people allow justice to be subverted this country they couldn't are now talking of taking away benefits and council houses from those who were involved in the riots now what that says is you will be punished twice for a pig committing a crime if you are poor because obviously that will not affect anyone it doesn't account for the harm and isn't on benefits now i think we need to be just. a
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proportion of the crime and the idea of attacking poor people more than the core pollution them twice is fundamentally unjust and also self-defeating because if we take away all forms of income and all forms of housing from people then what reason is there not to be involved in criminality i mean in effect that because i need means of survival so i think this is near hysteria gripping the magistrates in this country and we need to resist our own jones thank you. his you know song was sixteen years old when he committed these murders that's not inside the song so it should not be punished for his crimes sean is being punished no rational person can deny that sean has been punished is being punished and will
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lead. breaking news this hour a line of gadhafi sons considered by many as his father's successor appears in tripoli in front of the border of the rebel planes had been detained and they stormed the city a day ago the information about his arrest was also confirmed by the international criminal court this is added to the confusion over losing control of the capital as both government and insurgent forces insisting have the upper hand. also doubts are cast over whether a rebel victory would actually leave the libyan people and control their destiny as experts point to those who fought for the revolution and it out with a government they didn't choose. those fighting in the view still rages on
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a western oil companies have already started circling around a violent storm country and once again as far as i'm concerned the so-called battle for democracy was a war for black gold all along. so the headlines are going to top of the hour and meantime we'll bring you the latest from the world of sports there's a. new company and these are the headlines perfect monday night. i didn't make it to any fruit so you read it three and you'll win over spurs in the english premier league . blog russian side angie could face sanctions for harassing the referee during their victory over banana at the weekend. and on top of the world's finest lash press writes the big three to claim the overall lead live well . but first manchester united have kept up their perfect start to the season with
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a three nil threshing of tottenham last night still missing luka most was in the squad as he continues to be willing to move to chelsea despite his absence those services held denied just for an hour then danny welbeck broke the deadlock and he then set up and this is for the second a main room the scots the third united now have six points along with wolves and leaders in congress to city in the meantime more pressure has been heaped on arsenal manager arsene vanga he's received a further two game touchline ban before you ate the fixtures after breaching a previous band and that means he'll not be in the dugout for the second leg of the goodness champions league qualifier i didn't a.z. tomorrow well the second leg of the champions league qualifiers take place tonight at stake the place in the group stages of the tournament separate side after well how to overturn a one all deficit against dislike are caused by munich looked to be almost there with his two gold advantage in the first leg against europe and honestly grab
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a full one up from their first leg against malmo we can be hard to travel to again cost spanish side but the reality is miss out on champions league football if they don't beat odense well it looks like plenty of won't be in domestic action at least this weekend plays in spain's top two leagues are set to strike for the second week and the season should have started last week but didn't after a dispute over pay around two hundred plays of not being paid fairly broad a cash strapped clubs players are demanding a wage guarantee and the right to break their contracts if they are not paid for three consecutive months a proposal that has been rejected. by the way both parties will hold further meetings today to try to resolve the stalemate and. i can understand that people want to see football i have been a player until recently and i want to see football to bottom i have to think about the footballers having time and we don't have salaries guaranteed that is where the
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problem is not it is a serious situation that has not been solved i would like to be more to me stevens that i am not. in other news the father of chelsea midfielder john has been freed after being cleared not to nigeria michael obi was rescued by police those suspected of helping him with paraded in front of the media at a police station in the central nigerian city of kill mr reflected on his ordeal. for a minute. underground. leslie . went to see that i could not give you two. should just. subtract the good soldier. but in russia angie could face sanctions if found guilty of harassing the ref in their two one win over banana moscow the russian football union is investigating allegations
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some great action that in other news england cricket captain andrew strauss says his side will continue to were caught off to completing a four nil series whitewash. well off the phone with us the skipper was all smiles as you would expect if you're seeing his side beating me by meanings and eight runs during the series in england the world number one rankings from their opponents on strive said the fading was different a motion fell one angle and won the ashes two years ago. well i think i think in two thousand and maybe that's a bit there was a bit more motion because we went into game one all and no one knew how the series
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is going to end up so trying to series this game three in a law abiding we were very motivated by the idea of making for no you know we were confident we we felt that we had the ability to win this final game but we had to dig deep and as i said that's what i'm most proud about is the guys who are prepared to do that even when they didn't really have to. i think that bodes well for the future and finally cyclists public glastris has taken the overall lead at the tour of spain after winning the third stage of the welter of the spaniard cheered on by the home crowd broke away from the rest with about thirteen kilometers to go that was just before the summer also deliver sand and he was chased hard by a trio of riders which included french men so a bunch of analogies just twenty seconds behind the asterisk in the overall standings but it was the spaniard you held on for the win to take the red cheers in a wednesday will see riders tackle the first nineteen stage of this year's race a challenging route from bizarre to see if he hadn't and that's over one hundred
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and seventy kilometers. an hour the riders will be hoping for some cool weather it was over one hundred degrees there a day before yesterday but now it is time to see what the weather is doing where you are. as you know song was sixteen years old when he committed these murders that's not inside the song so it should not be punished for his crimes sean is being punished no rational person can deny that sean has been punished is been punished and will be punished. by sours must be executed for the brutal crime committed this is a punishment this is not. imagine. it's to. cause him. any mercy on you whatsoever.
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