round of violence torn country once again sparks concern the so-called battle for democracy was a war for black gold all along. but i have lines here in our t.n.x. to tell our interview british author owen jones talks about the problems in society the recent unrest in england has exposed. we've. i'm joined by owen jones author of a book called the demonization of the working classes thanks for talking to r.t. the demonization of the working classes what do you mean by that have to do with the riots i think there's been this myth which the political establishment and journalists alike embrace basically everybody in britain is middle class and all that remains of the old working class is a sort of problematic fact plus in the class what we saw with these riots complicate i think linked to the sense because it helps reinforce this are there is

this travel in the class which is waiting you know which is not only lazy in fact with but also violent which is how the government and lightning commentators have been portraying it why is there this myth about the working classes how is it created and why the riots being blamed on them why i think what we saw in the 1980's in this country was an attack on a lot the pillars of working class britain industries that sustained a lot of communities institutions trade unions council housing values in communities were very strong like solidarity in favor of good individuals and by the end of the eighty's there wasn't the same sense of being being able to be proud of being working class everyone supposed to seem to become middle class you know that that's what aspiration means in britain so because of all that was that the working class became betrayed in a very negative way particularly as we became all equal and then i'm all equal society people justify that inequality by saying well actually the people at the

bottom of that because they deserve to be there the lazy the violent bigoted stupid is a justification for inequality and that's not to say they want social problems in this country like drugs and crime or whatever but the real info. people narcs of work in some of the communities worst affected fact by the top of the thirty four employed people facing chasing every drop so i think problems what we saw last week another a whole range of other social problems i think unemployment and poverty provide fertile ground for them to grow so it's not to justify it is just to try and explain why these things happen in order to stop it from happening again so using politicians have been quick to blame all of this on criminality in say the this is a broken society. just a way of covering up the ills of a society they've created an absolutely i mean basically what they're trying to do

is turn a social issue into a moral issue. they're reinforcing the idea that if your benefits are part of mass unemployment that your behavior is at fault when actually you know in this country now there's a problem of lack of jobs we've got two and a half million people unemployed another million incapacity benefit are going to push into work there's less than half a million vacancies there's not enough jobs to go around it's very convenient for the government to say actually all these people on unemployment benefits are is their own fault the behaviors that fall and that's what's need to be that's what needs to be sorted out not the issue addressed that you know agree with some extent knowing these people were clearly have no idea that violence is not the answer i mean no one's justify what happened and understanding it's the whole starting what has to be this must never happen again people must never be terrorized in their communities as they were last week with what in five people young people out of a job only takes

a small proportion of those people who feel they have no future to risk to act in this way to bring chaos and violence to the streets of our cities and i mean there's other issues too i think i think consumerism society has a lot of responsibility in britain your status has so much to do with what you possess. and what you wear. for a lot of all young people want to be part of a consumer society but there's a whole group of people particularly poor communities who feel they have no access to it and in a perverse way i think that's what you saw in places like hackney where you've got some of the poorest people living on some of the richest right in the sense of london and i think that kind of inequality mixed with hyper consumerism helps create that situation that we saw in the shop you mentioned this inequality but the u.k.'s policy for some time has been some mix rich and poor living in the same areas bring in council houses to fill in areas and vice a versa do you not think that's what. i think the problem with vacation is you end

up with lots of shops pricing out a lot of the people who live there actually pushes up the cost of living for the people but yes i think mixing and social mixing is good you only have to look at paris where the rich are concentrated in the middle and the poor concentrate around the idea the so-called effect it's good to be mixing but the problem in london is when the most cities in the western world the top ten percent are over two hundred sixty times richer than the bottom ten percent so they see you have poor people living alongside some of the richest people in the world looking at lives they would in all likelihood never how what we need to do is to tackle inequality because at the moment people are getting a fair share of the british economy so how do you breach saying well we need more progressive taxation we need actors on the rich in order to take more people at the bottom out of taxation altogether we need

a living wage so people at the bottom especially a place like london or most expensive cities on the planet the minimum wage in the country is just not enough to live on you can't support a family with it so these are huge social problems which aren't being addressed and we have these problems at a time when people at the top are richer than ever is this also. case then of the bad example being said from the top down it had the m.p.'s expenses scandal bankers bonuses still getting paid despite the crisis if we look at the m.p.'s in particular he stood up to denounce these looters just three years ago they were embroiled in a huge expenses scandal let's be honest they were state taking money from the taxpayer to get the same sort of widescreen t.v.'s that were being carted off shops last week to be one example general counsel of backbench labor m.p. he stood up to demand action be taken against the looters he claimed eight and a half thousand pounds for buying all of the televisions that whilst one twenty three year old has just been sent to prison for six months. three hundred fifty

worth of water to the right so yes we have the bankers who plunged into an economic crisis where the politicians stole from the taxpayer we recently have the news international scandal where police will be bribed by journalists what happened last week was more disorderly that all are but the example of being set by the top the way the government is dealing with this choosing it's a way for them to kind of legitimize right wing ideals of things like tougher policing cracking down on social media i think these rights have been manipulated by the government quite frankly people understandably angry and they're scared that what this government is doing is using that to justify attacks on people on benefits we've seen attacks on single parents this idea fatherless families over sponsible we see recently david starkey the historian trying to scapegoat black people in black culture and we're now talking about in florida tearing crack down in terms of law and order attacks on civil liberties by government which promised

the defense of liberty is against the attacks from new labor and even as you say a tax on the idea that social media to close down which didn't even happen a lot of authoritarian regimes when they were all poison is going about against them you mentioned the starkey that you're involved in the debate. he. mentioned the whites of the come blacks in other courses there has been talk of multiculturalism being the failure of it being the cause of these riots do you give any kind of credence to that argument with about the racial issue coming into play in these riots let me be clear about david starkey what he said was a very racist this was an attempt to scapegoat people this of a whole range of people involved from different ethnic backgrounds the common factor with all of them is poverty and unemployment and again it's not just a creation what happened was completely inexcusable if you have enough people who don't feel they have a future of whatever ethnic background only takes a small proportion and to respond in this outrageous way to being kind of the stick

to look at that but multiculturalism and different ethnic groups have nothing to do with what happened we still haven't seen the full effects of the austerity cuts things like higher education police cuts still planned to be going through when it does these things things will get worse i think the danger is that these riots a dark force of much worse. the perfect storm the rich haven't yet this rising youth unemployment the government took away the educational maintenance allowance which was paid to pour over six in your office then education university tuition fees have been troubled all of these together will breed continue to breed but more devastatingly increasing numbers of people who feel they have no future they feel they have nothing to look forward to and i think we could see a lot worse down the line when the courts have the government's response many of. the same time seems to be mirroring public opinion the public want the government

to crack down on the perpetrators they want to be punished severely nothing that's a good idea look people are angry people are scared because of what happened but this should be a test of democracy in a country like they're. very good. an inevitable backlash that should not let people allow justice to be subverted this country couldn't and i'm talking of taking away benefits council houses from those who were involved in the riots now what that says is you will be punished twice for a pig committing a crime if you are poor because obviously that will not affect anyone it doesn't account for the harm and isn't on benefits now i think we need to be just the obvious needs to be told it needs to be proportionate to the crime and the idea of attacking poor people more than the poor for punishing them twice is fundamentally unjust and also self defeat take because if you take away all forms of income and

all forms of housing from people then what reason is there not to be involved in criminality i mean in effect because i knew means of survival so i think this is near hysteria gripping the magistrates in this country and we need to resist up i mean jones thank you. as you know was sixteen years old when he committed these murders that's not to say that song so it should not be punished for his crimes sean is the no rational person in the neither song has been punished is being punished and will be honest. the saudis must be executed for the brutal crime committed this is a punishment this is not. to mention.

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breaking news this hour a one of the gadhafi sons considered by many as his father a successor appears in tripoli in front of a supporter of the claims had been detained when they stormed the city a day ago the information about his arrest was also confirmed by the international criminal court this is added to the confusion over who's in control of the capital as both government and insurgent forces insisting have the upper hand. also doubts are cast over whether a rebel victory would actually leave the libyan people and control their destiny as experts point to those who fought for the revolution and it up with a government they didn't choose. and it's fighting in the view still rages on a western oil companies have already started circling around a violent storm country and once again sparks concern the so-called battle for democracy was a war for black gold all along. the same headlines i'll be back at the top of the

hour and meantime we'll bring you the latest from the world of sports. good to have you company and these are the headlines perfect monday night. i didn't make it to you in issue two three. in the. wall russian side angie could face sanctions for harassing the referee during their victory over the weekend. and on top of the world lashed the big three to claim the overall lead of well. managed united have kept up their perfect start to the season with a three nil freshening of tottenham last night stewart. was in the squad as he continues to be linked to a move to chelsea despite his absence of visitors held united for an hour then

danny welbeck broke the deadlock and he then set up and this is for the second. goal of the third united now have six points along with will and leaders managed to sit. in the meantime more pressure has been heaped on arsenal manager arsene vanga he received a further two game touchline ban for you a fixtures after breaching a previous stand and that means he'll not be in the dugout for the second leg of the champions league qualifier i didn't a.z. tomorrow well the second leg of the champions league qualifiers take place tonight at stake a place in the group stages of the tournament. against. munich looked to be almost there with his two gold advantage from the first leg against the nonis a grab a full one up. against malmo behind to travel to cross spanish side but the reality . on champions league football if they don't beat. well it looks to. be in

domestic action at least this weekend place in spain's top two leagues are set to strike for a second weekend the season should have started last week but didn't after a dispute over pay around two hundred players have not been paid for by the club's players demanding a wage guarantee and the right to break their contracts if they are not paid for three consecutive months a proposal that has been reject. by the way by parties will hold up in the meetings today to try to resolve the stalemate and. i can understand that people want to see football i have been a player until recently and i want to see football to bottom i have to think about the footballers that are having time and they don't have their salaries guaranteed that is where the problem it's not that it is a serious situation that has not been solved i would like to be more optimistic and i am not. in other news the father of chelsea midfielder john isley mikael has been frayed after being kidnapped in nigeria michael obi was rescued by police those

suspected of abducting him were paraded in front of the media at a police station in the central nigerian city of chaos mr obey reflected on his ordeal. i started thinking there for a minute this with me would be. underground. leslie. when they see that i could not be. using it for. me. should just. now in russia angie could face sanctions if found guilty of harassing the ref in that he won when. the russian football union is investigating allegations made against the plays last weekend well that much produced three go. a total of twenty five were schooled in the russian premier league and it is time to enjoy the mole

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some great action then in other news england cricket captain andrew strauss says his side will continue to work hot off to completing a four nil series whitewash over india while after the final test the skipper was all smiles and you would expect to just sing this side beating me by meanings and they runs during the series in england to the world number one rankings from their opponents and strive said the fading was different emotion felt when england won the ashes two years ago. well i think i think in two thousand and maybe it's a bit there was a bit more motion because we went into game one all in no one knew how the series is going to end up so coming to this series this came through in a lot by being we were very motivated by the idea of making a four nil you know we were confident we we felt that we had the ability to win this final game but we had to dig deep to get in and as i said that's what i'm most

proud of the guys who are prepared to do that even when they didn't really have to . i think that bodes well for the future and finally cyclists public glastris has taken the overall lead the tour of spain after winning the third stage of the welter the spaniard cheered on by the home crowd broke away from the rest of the back thirteen kilometers to go that was just before the summit of the alto doing less sand and he was chased hard by a trio of riders which included french win so a bunch of analogies just twenty seconds behind last first in the overall standings but it was the spaniard you held on for the win to take the red cheers in a wednesday will see riders tackle the first nineteen stage of this year's race a challenging route from bizarre to see sierra nevada and that's over one hundred and seventy kilometers. and the riders will be hoping for some cool weather it was over one hundred degrees there the day before yesterday but now it is time to see

what the weather is doing where you are. as you know song was sixteen years old when he committed these murders that's not to say that song so or should not be punished for his crimes song is being punished no rational person can deny that sean has been honest is being honest and will be honest. the souers must be executed for the brutal crime committed this is. this is not. to mention. vengeance. cause he's. been immersed now me wants to have or. not i didn't come here for justice. and heard the rumors.

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breaking news this hour a lot of gadhafi sons considered by many as his father successor appears in tripoli in front of supporter of the five rebel planes had been detained when they stormed a city a day ago it's added to the confusion over who is in control of the capital's both government and insurgent forces insists they have the upper hand. also doubts are cast over whether a rebel victory would actually leave the league of people in control of their destiny as experts point to egypt where those who fought for the revolution and adopt with a government they didn't choose. even before the fate of tripoli is sealed stick great oil grab is already beginning as western oil companies start circling around the violence foreign country concerns resurface the so-called battle for democracy was a war for blab gold all along.