watching r.t. coming to live from moscow i'm marina josh so breaking news this hour khadafi son made an appearance in central tripoli refuting rebels claims that he was arrested the claim was initially confirmed by the international criminal court as independent journalist sleezy phelan told us this is casting a shadow over other statements by the rebel council. well there have been some extraordinary events right of course we've been hearing over the past few days that the libyan government is crumbling opposition of trained the rebels have claimed that they are in the control of tripoli but it was not by surprise the surprise of all the foreign journalists in the rixos hotel went by but one showed off at the hotel. with its convoy and he gave an interview he did and he also took some of that done with him for a drive through the city where they were taken. away some of them say they saw

thousands of people in the in the area in support of the libyan government. a number of his people from tried to cross the country have come into the capital to support the struggle here against the rebels. very much relaxed in high spirits. that the libyan government and for them pay is winning against the rebels and then we also have the news that mohammed gadhafi has brought on the gadhafi that the son who was reported to have been captured has been released by his out of by the comments gadhafi and he apparently gave a speech on libyan television so of course these events just completely plan that the perception of the wild about what's happening here in the capital on it has. on hand the long gone georgie dot com for more eyewitness accounts from tripoli. they went through all the.

journalists the central tripoli hotel saying they have been targeted by rebels and get more information from inside the leading capital on our web site r.t. dot com. journalist antiwar activist susan lindauer says the levy and regime might fall but that won't bring an end to the bloodshed. i think that it is the end of the regime however i do not think that it is the end of the war i think that that nato has a very serious problem they have arrived at the point of a gun they've been quote democracy to libya through guns and the people of libya are very angry at nato they are not jubilant that the rebels who have arrived are celebrating the people are not celebrating with them these people do not like outsiders they are now preparing to pursue tribal vengeance and vendettas very quietly they will punish those who have attacked them and we will probably not hear

very much about that in the in the western media at all but this war is not over and they will now have their blood and they are not going to be eager to reciprocate and reward britain or france or italy they would like to see those countries stay out of their of their of libya and to stay out of their oil as well the fine is not over in tripoli but carve up of libya's vast oil riches the biggest in africa it's already beginning to be talking foreign minister of fire the starting gun say any oil company will play the number one role in the region and as our lower end it reports the service won't come cheap for the libyan people. delivered as a promise but seen by many as more of a threat david cameron says nato will stay while libya makes the transition to democracy as allied forces lend support to the rebels to take tripoli to stop the war coalition warns libyans not to expect they're getting something for nothing but

western powers don't do this without asking for a paper why is it that the head of the t.n.c. is running off to paris to meet with the french president will of course start here is one very very important issue is why the western powers tony blair and others struck a deal with gadhafi in the first place it will be exactly what they're seeking to continue with with the t.n.c. to further explore those oil riches the british government makes no secret of the fact that its motives in supporting the rebels aren't entirely altruistic last year alone the u.k. export it around forty billion dollars of goods and services to north africa and the middle east but it's black gold that's the key libya has the largest oil reserves in africa western powers look at the region and they talk about humanitarianism all democracy but they sink about oil greg martin says it's

impossible not to draw a comparison with iraq he's written a book about the aftermath of the iraq invasion in which he maintains western powers imposed a democracy which played on sectarian divisions that ensured years of tribal struggle but also meant the allies retained control of the oil supply while the u.k. government insists lessons have been learned from iraq western oil firms move into libya even before the fate of tripoli is sealed great oil grab is already beginning b.p. has a contentious oil and gas exploration contract in libya which the u.k. government will be anxious for it to resume italian oil giant e n i. is the first to send back to libya and it says rose on the knees french towel and. also did well as investors hopes they'd soon be able to resume production in libya but it was price to the libyan people the great sheer is that just as they did in

iraq that creates a democracy which serves interests or the west's interests or oil companies interests and does nothing for the people of libya nor emmett's. asia times correspondent pepe escobar believes as soon as western countries get libyan oil contracts they will want boots on the ground to secure them. this is the cover story in this story from the beginning was our to be responsibility to protect that was the basis for our un resolution one nine seventy three there is that bathes of the agreement between the u.s. and saudi arabia we get there is a loser and based on your fake arab league gold nine the countries out of twenty two and you can do any you want with saudi arabia itself but this was the cover story sold to american and european public opinion especially the chinese the russians many being brazil for that matter their not buying it they know it so us need to coordinate operation without them there will be no victory just would be a stalemate they'll go for ever and we have the international community sort of

basically decile emphasis of ours taking sides in a civil war so when they knew that they could go on for months or years on end it's ok let's try to take tripoli in one date and they did it because they blow these are going to go on the whole city and the way towards the north is reminds me of i was there at a time you could nation provisional authority in iraq in two thousand and three this is the same seeing we're going to have a western goods on the ground and we're going to open up. libya for a hired core no holds bar durable capitalism with no rebuts ration of profits you know what let's get their oil as soon as we can the best contracts possible and know that this is completely if this is the way we don't know yet that u.s. and nato goals we're going to have reracked two point zero. well speculation rising and what to have or maybe if the rebels when we're interested in your opinion on

the matter i can express that arkie dot com our website so far most of us think we need it will turn into another oil rich connie for nato members twenty one percent feel to be able to split as an internal struggle for power began its just under that don't believe anything will change at all only a minority of the conscionable turn actually. and into a democratic state so more than ten website r.t. dot com and let us know what you think on the issue. cheering crowds in tripoli's green square left manny around the world with a feeling of deja vu back in february gyptian to worry united enjoy and hope for a brighter future one they celebrate of the toppling of hosni mubarak now it's the feeling of disappointment that unite parties got it she can look at what's ahead for levy and if the change finally comes. the cadets the regime is crumbling. the rebels are cheering. the. same cheers and tears could be

seen in egypt in february as the nation ousted their longtime leader hosni mubarak but six months on many egyptians say their home is being crushed by reality. you know i love the revolution when it happened i welcomed that looked at the time like a light at the end of the tunnel we see it's not getting better we have nothing to eat don't tell me about democracy for hungry people it just doesn't matter the egyptians now are not governed by they chose as their leaders instead it's their army that's in control of the army that has strong ties with the west and he sponsored by washington the military regime the edifice the institutions that were to be as since the fundamental essence of the mubarak regime those remain and we can see the thousands of people have been brought to military trial since the end of the popular revolution that ousted mubarak in tripoli the body taking over is

the national transitional council also not chosen by the levy in people yet the council has been recognized as the legitimate government of libya by all allies who have been helping oust gadhafi many leave ians are outraged by the fact that foreign powers are effectively making vital choices or that there is too much. well and geopolitical strategic value to libya to only become reformed in democratic rights and universal participation by the citizenry. western powers need to implement a western economic and military agenda and therefore the people who will eventually command the political situation in libya and the military situation in libya will indeed be supported and buttress by western powers western powers have thrown all their support behind the league in national transitional council giving them billions of dollars and weapons to gain control but the rebels are far from being

a united group what is going to face after that is a period of prolonged chaos nobody knows the outcome this is as i said in the beginning this is tribe against tribe this is not democracy against the taliban revolutions. have developed under different scenarios it was an unarmed uprising of millions in libya it's been an insurgency flooded with weapons by the way and those weapons are still in their arms and they're not going anywhere and many analysts are saying that we could find themselves in a much worse situation than the egyptians because on top of power crisis similar to the one egyptian. could be facing a fresh. and mom. reporting from washington. former bush administration official michael bryant says once caught no matter what happens to gadhafi will be the hague tribunal pulling the strings. be careful what you ask for you might get it then again you may not the example of egypt and

they're not really there they they didn't get what they were fighting for that may happen in libya as well. it seems that. the west is very there's a there's a bond between the libyan rebels and the western countries there's a lot of input now what we'll have to do are a lot of you know a lot of interplay i should say but now we'll have to wait and see. the rebels who are still sort of you know exactly who are what are they and how will they did they are they just using the west to get to take over tripoli in the country and get rid of gadhafi and then once that's done they're going to do their own thing and they don't need the west anymore the hague the international court is very much involved in what's going to happen when they capture to darfur which i have no doubt they will so does that mean the people of libya are going to decide his fate i don't really think so i think the international court's going to decide his fate and i

sound a little cynical when i say this i think maybe his trial and maybe punishment execution life in prison may be in libya to make it look like the libyan people or are deciding his fate. well we bring you more expert opinion on developments in navy and also this hour for you on our team. new report from the border where people fear the internal conflict is already spilling into tunisia plus. this is one step from the office of. hamas official says it was attacked by extremist groups operating here shortly before. the six. party tour of the country which managed to leave us following in b.b.'s footsteps our special report on the aftermath of the military operation in the syrian city of hama coming up later this hour. russian foreign minister sergei lavrov says there could have been

a less bloody resolution to the libyan crisis but both nato and gadhafi didn't allow it to happen. we have always wanted a quicker outcome and that could have been faster but a number of factors prevented this from happening including could not use a position told allies they could then she insisted that negotiations were only possible to him actions were also an obstacle before exceeded the mandate do you want security council. fighting in maybe it is reported to have reached the country's border with tunisia were heavy gunfire has been heard to nisha as beefed up its army presence in the frontier area as lenient and full traders have allegedly crossed the border r.t.s. corresponded to the spot for us. violent clashes have been reported along it's unusually been border over the weekend it all started on friday when a local resident has reported that near the town of dues reportedly several

vehicles with the license plate carrying arms men have been spotted afterwards clashes have been erupting throughout the weekend between the tunisian border patrol and the even men we can talk with certainty about their identity now you have to remember that it was in tunisia where the events of the so-called arab spring have started transfer to transpire this year with the ousting of the tunisian president and the unrest which started in tunisia has essentially been caught like a fever throughout the middle east and the northern africa and the result is that what we are seeing in the capital right now now back then in the spring of this year thousands were fleeing from tunisia to europe in order to escape the mayhem which was going on here and now a similar situation is happening to libya but now libyans are fleeing over the border with tunisia into tunisia and of course what we could be witnessing is yet

another human catastrophe in the region with thousands of refugees trying to escape to me of course we do not know whether or not those refugees will try and make their way into europe which dealt with that crisis and now may be facing another one with the ongoing clashes in libya. for english the reporting there a former u.s. diplomat in libya john graham says even if the rebels take over there are barely be a hint of democracy in libya. there is so little civil society in libya there are so few democratic institutions and they are so weak they have nothing to build on and egypt in tunisia there was at least something to build on once the top filler was was was gotten away with in libya that's not the case these people have to start from scratch and there are all kinds of reasons why it could fail what is the whole nature of the transitional council is he it's it's a mess it's these people are some of them are exiles some of their are have fled

from there you could argue regime a few of them are islamicists summary intellectuals and probably professors some are business people so just hanging together is going to be an enormously difficult task for them the other thing is that they've got you know who are reprisals they've got they can't be can't they can't have reprisals against their enemies that will just create the kind of civil strife that everyone wants to avoid france players to hold high level meeting next week to discuss levy as political future the top libyan opposition of the year has been invited to the french capital but our teasdale bushell reports on those saying paris is jumping the gun in anticipation of look for it if oil contracts. the french president has spoken to the. dobro by telephone on monday and announced that he's avoided him for talks on wednesday in fact paris is behaving as if it's all over now in brussels and i'm

just saying that the united states has really taken a back seat here soon opportunity to take a leading role. when ration for its oil corporations for example we know that any have large contracts with. before the civil war and was accused of corruption in order to gain most of contracts in that country. bushell reporting there well and just to remind you we've got extensive coverage of the situation in tripoli on our website that's r t dot com any can have there for the latest video and analysis and opinion of course also you can get out to the minutes news from the region on our twitter page follow us at our store. fighting between protesters and government forces continues in syria as well the u.n. says more than twenty two hundred people have been killed there in the six month long crackdown on anti-government forces and the spy growing calls by western

leaders on bush on a lawsuit to step down he says his regime is not in danger that the government is in control. who's in syria went to see for herself whether that's true. the city of hama around two hundred kilometers north of the capital damascus religiously conservative sunni dominated city it's been one of the centers all privileges tensions here in syria for many years in one thousand nine hundred eighty two during the current president bashar assad's father role in the city saw bloody massacre according to amnesty international over ten thousand people were killed there in the regime's crackdown on the city's sunni population but during this conflict this city has been among the last to join the national opera's in. the army were moved into in july and withdrew ten days later a team is now going there to see how things are on the ground after the army left the city and to try to find out exactly what happened there during

a ten day military operation. their way to hama goes through homs the city where activists have been reporting dozens of civilian deaths over the last few months of violence. the closer we get to it the more dramatic twists in the real becomes checkpoints appear along the highway. at the entrance to hama all the cars are checked but that's not the only reminder of the recent unrest. rich in the city of hama became infamous after it appeared in an amateur video posted on you tube showing dead bodies thrown to the r.c. river comment accompanying this video sad these were residents of hama killed by security forces while syrian t.v. reported they were policeman. despite the president's phone and all military operations against anti-government protesters they've recently been reports about the army still being deployed in several cities across syria

including hama. this is what's left from the office a squat in the center of the city of hama officials say it was attacked by extremist groups operating here shortly before the army and the city they say that . the armed groups at the building on fire and killed at least twenty soldiers who were inside the building at the time of the attack. the army came to remove barricades behind these barricades there were people not peaceful demonstrations and there were clashes between them and the troops. while the governor's sharing his views on what's happened a crowd gathers outside his residence their slogan sound neutral first. but the changes in seconds what people stop saying gives a completely different picture we live job our minds and our. very lives for the most pleasure but after the army in our disrepute we see our documentary despite.

the state of. the numbers and officials though put all responsibility on the people themselves they have the right spot these people just don't want to give the government time to do reforms the reforms cannot go through in such an atmosphere. i would journey to hama has been part of a so called syria is fine too but no matter what his initial goal was it turned out to be very different from its name. r.t. damascus syria town to get the latest business news who is here with us. hello and a very warm welcome to the program the latest plunge in the markets could force russia to revise its privatization program one of the most anticipated deals of the

autumn the sale of a seven point six percent stake in spare bank is under threat country's biggest lender has lost over twenty percent of its market cap since late july and the save the current market situation is not favorable for selling any assets at a good price and at this stage boosted its part as a short program a route to gain over two hundred billion dollars by twenty seventeen. at current prices dropped sharply on monday as the rebel and oil rich levy appeared close to ending a resumption of oil exports could ease wars over global supply constraints that drive current prices to three a high is this here how the christians as kuranda from standard and poor's says it will take the country at least a year to get back on tap. i think it will take about a full year before production is said its peak libya is currently producing around less than one hundred thousand barrels which is about nine percent of the previous capacity now we understand from any which is the largest producer in the country

that so far as they know installations have been hurt but still you cannot just turn it on you have to build up the pressure and you have to start gradually so it will probably take a full twelve months before they reach peak. time to have a check on the market's current prices are edging up and signs of china's economy improving the world they are still under pressure as investors continue to i developments in libya for indications on the restart of the oil exports front land is trading at one hundred and eight dollars a barrel while. that eighty five dollars. quick look at precious metals gold a story of going out to another all time high above one thousand nine hundred dollars mark as a flight to safe haven continues and somebody is flat to negative this trading at forty three dollars but. asia shares are higher following the overnight gains on wall street and european markets investors are also encouraged by signs of relative

improvement in the chinese economy a survey on country's manufacturing activity in august showed flast purchasing managers index reaching two months by. a volley one are way ahead of the opening bell here in moscow the markets managed to close in the black on monday the archer's point two percent while the miser throws a third of a percent. and looking ahead to the trading day tom monday from a critique investment bank says u.s. economic data and events levy a will be guiding market sentiment. investors in russian markets we focused on the key story of the week which is going to be the data coming out of the u.s. at the end of the week the u.s. saying call it g.d.p. revision as well as u.k. but the big story of course is jackson hole on friday will be trading around stories that potentially could come out of the big story is there going to be q e three is there going to be another round of easing is there going to be another program by which the fed buys back securities or extends the maturity of the doubt

that it's already bought back no one really knows but that'll be the picture ever really through the week of the rumor mill around that so i think today at least the markets are going to be pretty pretty volatile as they have been for a while i think the second story as well for russia which is important is that the market has to digest the implications of the of the events unfolding in libya and what the implications are for the oil price ok that's it for now you're up to date more in one hours time.

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welcome back you're watching live from moscow on breaking news the. sons considered by many as his father successor appears in tripoli and front of supporters despite the rebel claims have been detained when they stormed the city a day information about his arrest was also confirmed by the international criminal court this has added to the confusion over who's in control of the capital us both government and insurgent forces insist they have the upper hand. over whether the rebel victory would actually leave them in people in control of their destiny as experts point to where those who fought for the revolution and with a government they didn't choose and. it's fighting in libya still rages on a western oil companies have already started.