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side colonel gadhafi is tripoli compound following a fierce fight and now claim to control most of the capital three days after entering the city these are the latest pictures from the compound we're receiving here in r.t. rebels are on the square colonel gadhafi used to make speeches to the nation but exactly where he is no one seems to know smoke has been rising over the libyan capital throughout tuesday as a result of pockets of fighting between the two sides casualties are said to be mounting. london based activists from the war coalition talked to me a little earlier today and she believes the only thing libyans want now is to take the situation into their own hands. we have to remember we've been here before we've been here before with afghanistan we've been there before with iraq and i think the lesson from both of those and that actually the message is even coming from many of the rebels in tripoli and elsewhere in libya is that they don't want nato there any more they don't want western troops on the ground and they want to
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run their own country and i think it would be very foolish for david cameron or anybody else to believe this really vindicates their foreign policy in terms of the war on terror well one of the sons made a surprise appearance despite the rebels claim he was captured for almost two days they were saying they are in control and that also turned out to be untrue does that ring the alarm bells for you concerning the credibility of this anti gadhafi coalition. well i think what it does raise alarm bells with is the why in which the these issues are used very very much politically to justify western intervention we had the international criminal court saying that they knew that. saif al islam gadhafi was in custody when clearly they didn't know conclusively that that was the case and therefore this is being used in a political way. to employ the regime was weaker than perhaps it was at
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that particular time that the rebels had made more votes is that they perhaps had at that particular time and that is a form of this information which really should be coming for. an international institution and this does. bring to mind some of the worrying ways in which these things have been used i personally think the intervention of the international criminal court. the idea of a control i feel his family is criminals is yet another saw in the western hypocrisy when we have tony blair and various other people responsible for the disastrous episode in iraq in particular who want indicted in this war so you think they could definitely when they are captured should face trial in libya and that should be no foreign intervention whatsoever in their fate. i think it is absolutely up to the libyan people to decide what they do with gadhafi and with anybody else that they if there is evidence they should they should be dealt with
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in libya and not in the hague or anywhere else so i feel that the whole western intervention around this has. to they were caught taken by surprise by the average brain and what they're trying to do is to reassert western control. well for more on this let's now cross live to richard spencer he's a us based journalist joining us there on his web cam in the usa thanks so much for being with us well we've been getting conflicting reports from the rebels over the situation there in tripoli for almost two days now how credible is the anti gadhafi coalition do you think. i think it's incredible i think would be us as accomplish is to establish a coming civil war in libya which we have financed we will be and we will have trained a number of the people who will be killing one another actually what i've heard
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reports that in the months since the united states going to vault in march that actually some of the rebels were calling in air strikes on one another so clearly they are preparing themselves for power among them and you know there are obviously some bigger things that play with what the united states might want from this but it's very clear i think we shouldn't be naive children and think that these rebels are these nice little folks who want democracy and freedom and mcdonald's this is clearly a chance for them to gain power but it may be done in acts of revenge against north enemy but mainly for them to be in control and they're going to be fighting with each other for control after the next months and years so therefore that justifies the fact that nato say they will continue to stay in libya after the mandate is over in september. i don't want to be justifying. yet another boondoggle for washington and the pentagon however there is
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a degree to which the united states will break your leg and then offer you a crutch and think that it is it's some amazing benefactor or something like that so i mean it's much like in iraq in afghanistan where you have incoherent policy no war aims no concrete war aims and you blow up the country kill millions and then you decide that you need to stay there in order to. push back against the chaos which the united states created with someone so of course there's no way short of the same mistakes could be made sure the lessons to be learned from iraq and afghanistan and libya will be different to that. i love the softball question i'm going to challenge you on or say i don't want to hear these questions. because you know they've not learned anything they will continue to do this until finally they run out of money or
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a sense the world just refuses to continue to fund and buy the debts of this kind of out of control power so essentially it's going to be the u.s. treasury bond market that will all tumbling stop it are but in intil then we can't expect someone to you know acquire a wisdom or acquire state craft this late in the game that they will learn nothing and they will continue to do this what do you think about the immediate future for gadhafi though some are saying that his fate should be left for the libyan people or it should still be up to the international community should be sent off to the i.c.c. the international criminal court. i can't say that i could endure world criminal courts for anyone i think these are equal and show trials and to give it world body of power to try someone is it is a form of just how terrorism which i would never and doris if i were khadafi i
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would hang out. stay on the down low for a number of months wait for a lot of these rebels to kill one another. and maybe the united states will kind of lose interest and he could come back and take our i say that a little bit jokingly obviously but my major point is that this is this is not going anywhere there is not going to be a nice outcome in the foreseeable future would you and i know i spend that surely wouldn't the western interest in the oil reserves the gas reserves override all that predicted so you're talking about snored in the west interest for the likes of a and iraq or afghanistan scenario because of those resources at stake i absolutely agree with you and you know get off is certainly willing to sell his oil to europe and the united states i believe the united states is buying seven to ten percent of his oil that was coming out of libya a ton of it went to europe obviously eighty five percent so if the united states
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were a very rational actor they would be able to deal with tin pot dictators like dr your saddam hussein for instance certainly if i were in charge in washington i wouldn't have any problem dealing with people who might be a little unpleasant or or strange and colorful when these dictators however the problem is they really aren't rational they really they have people there who do not have the long term interest of the country or certainly the interest of the american majority of american people at heart and they actually get in all these kind of ideological games that lead to world chaos and so you can't really you can't. the reason why someone like samantha power or rock obama or a number of these people who think of the government as this almost you know. god can sweep down in people ok well all right we're out of time we have to leave it there good to chat to you on this i can hear your point of view thanks very much enjoy indeed for joining us live and whitefish in the usa richard spencer thanks
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thank you. well the question of gadhafi whereabouts is yet to be answered and i spoke to dr kusa director of the german orange institute based in berlin who thinks the embattled leader is not likely to run away. appearing the rebels were in a situation to advance more. to the compound in which could still be i mean he would be there in the bunkers in the underground bunkers and not not on the surface so during the last hours apparently the rebels have advanced somewhat to that part of the city the southwestern part of tripoli and i think we said that up to twenty percent of the city were still are still in the hands of the soldiers and militia who are defending a good outfit so are you convinced that gadhafi could well be in a bunker in that compound being stormed at the moment by those rebels if that's the
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case we could be witnessing the last moments of gadhafi is regime. well yes or no gaddafi is very erratic in his behavior and it's very difficult to say what will he do i mean his son and the television yesterday said no no my father still here and we are fighting and he is not the man to run away like the other dictators but on the other hand side i'm quite sure that he must have an emergency exit from his bunker system and can escape if he still should be there it might also be you know unfortunately as we see truth the first. victim of any war so nobody knows what is true in all the different in outs but nevertheless if he did escape from that bunker how long could it be actually on the run bearing in mind he wouldn't be able to take a plane because there's a no fly zone imposed over the country there are his chances of perhaps setting up camp somewhere else. well it's very difficult to know i don't think that
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will take him to tunisia and definitely not maybe he might go to the sea to tunisia or of the other countries bordering and take a plane from there to zimbabwe or to very few countries north korea where he would be still accepted as a host so it's very difficult to say i did might take some time to discover him even if he stays in his own countries if we remember said the hussein how long it took to discover him in iraq. and while the whole world guesses where colonel gadhafi might be hiding world chess federation chief illusion of says he you know he claims have spoken to him on the telephone in this afternoon's three hours ago when i was in my. car that his. son here called me by phone and i was very surprised and. then yes yes i am and
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i asked the why because yesterday i saw. him in prison and. ok now i am in tripoli now he's my father moammar gadhafi and my father wants to say some words to you after that here in which market here said that now he's he's country he doesn't want to leave his home in the end he wants to defend his country and he wants to thank all people into all who support. small company and small nation in the fight against countries from nato and after that it's in english thank you very much. mohammed translate these sentences from english and that the he said. because of security and i will call you later.
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and freelance journalist chandan who has recently come back from libya has told me earlier that could have his forces may continue the fight. nato apache helicopters and jets have massacred and blown apart these were able to get into tripoli look at images very carefully from zawiya and from tripoli and even western mainstream media is admitting no civilians are coming out in support of the rebels although all the shockers all the shops all the houses are shut down in zawiya and we shut down in tripoli now the rebels think they've got to go after his compound last night i'd have lost lives but it's all round one went to gadhafi because they forgot how to mohamed gadhafi and cycle is a press that was like an islamic swirling driving around tripoli so how like last night tonight is another trap for the rebels in the compound that thought these forces are allowing all these dozens and scores of rebels into the compound and
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let's see what happens to like and you know it may be a number of the rebels in tripoli two weeks ago it's been confirmed it was the british are you concerned about conducted that must go eighty five civilians including thirty five children nothing to do with protecting civilians everything to do with dominating for libya but what's been clear in the last few days and it's been admitted by the daily telegraph yesterday what's planned all along by the nato forces so yes they want to wrap up libya wrap it up nicely presented as a as a successful test case to then roll on syria so it's all dependent on where got these people and where this nato here if they can with this made their way in libya they won't be coming for syria and good luck you can so said in a speech just under a month ago about his resistance against nato is defending syria and iran as well. the u.k. is reported to authorize a clandestine operation to aid the assault on tripoli covert intelligence agents were allegedly inserted into libya to coordinate rebels actions during the push and more u.k. military personnel are said to be on standby in the mediterranean bodies of the
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bennett has more in this. it seems the british did have a bigger hand in all of this than it originally let on the press here today reporting that a whole team of intelligence officials have been operating in the country for some time now. ever since it became clear that the rebels would need some help if they really were going to topple gadhafi so people like spies m i six officials former s.a.'s officers to giving military advice and also non-lethal aid now it's important to note here that the u.n. mandate that nato is operating under in the country does not include a provision for ground troops and so the u.k. foreign secretary william hague has been quick to stress that. they've been supplying rebels with has been non-lethal and therefore not in breach of this u.n. resolution however these missions have been very covert clandestine and off the grid so as not to cause any diplomatic issues and also in these reports that.
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intelligence officials have been planning for some time now this assault on tripoli so as to catch gadhafi on the back they've been smuggling weapons fighters even fighting and also telecommunications equipment to secret weapons around the capital and then on the weekend following the bombing campaign from the air of strategic communications posts they got the go ahead for the final march on tripoli itself so the british government actually knew this was all on the cards for some time now however it did concede that it does already have two hundred troops ready to be deployed from cyprus as peacekeepers should the situation the transition they want to send into an akita they're prepared for that and also six hundred more marines actually also stationed in the mediterranean ready to be deployed in what the government terms as a role of support for the humanitarian cause so clearly downing street at the
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moment refusing to rule out. the use of what could be almost one thousand ground troops should the situation call for it. there is some contradiction there to this idea of handing over control to the libyan people so they're in the future and clearly the british and also other european states are not that confident just yet that this transition will be as peaceful as they all want it to be. reporting there while there may still be fighting in tripoli but the new self-proclaimed government is wasting little time in setting up its future cash flow european oil giants given the go ahead by rebel officials have already begun moving in with italian company any which had close ties to get their free spearheading the return there's reports this time its services won't be quite as cheap. delivered as a promise but seen by many as more of a threat david cameron says nato will stay while libya makes the transition to democracy as allied forces lend support to the rebels to take tripoli to stop the
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war coalition warns libyans not to expect they're getting something for nothing but western powers don't do this without asking for a paper why is it that the head of the t.n.c. is running off to paris to meet with the french president well of course turkey is one very very important issue was why the western powers tony blair and others struck a deal with gadhafi in the first place it will be exactly what they're seeking to continue with with the t.n.c. to further explore those oil riches the british government makes no secret of the fact that its motives in supporting the rebels aren't entirely altruistic last year alone the u.k. exported around forty billion dollars of goods and services to north africa and the middle east but it's black gold that's the key libya has the largest oil reserves in africa western powers look at the region they talk about humanitarianism all
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democracy but they think about oil great martin says it's impossible not to draw a comparison with iraq he's written a book about the aftermath of the iraq invasion in which he maintains western powers imposed a democracy which played on sectarian divisions that ensured years of tribal struggle but also meant the allies retained control of the oil supply while the u.k. government insists lessons have been learned from iraq western oil firms move into libya even before the fate of tripoli is sealed great oil grab is already beginning b.p. has a contentious oil and gas exploration contract in libya which the u.k. government will be anxious to resume italian oil giant. the n.r.a. is the first to send back to libya and it says rose on the knees french towel and. we also did well as investors hoped they'd soon be able to resume production in
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libya but at what price to the libyan people the great fear is that just as they did in iraq the creation democracy which the spanish interests or the west's interests for oil companies interests and does nothing for the people of libya nor emmett's. rebels have reportedly put their flags on top of buildings inside the gadhafi compound and raided weapons stores the part of the city housing the rixos hotel where journalists are staying remains under the control of the gadhafi forces those trapped inside the hotel report heavy fighting outside nato forces say they've hit as many as forty targets in tripoli during three days of fighting the biggest number in a single location since the operation started in march. i just remind you we've got extensive coverage of the situation there in tripoli on our web site you can head to r.t. probably for the latest video analysis and opinion and you can also get up to the minute news problem. libya on twitter page just follow the party under school.
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call. other news now here in our team at twenty two minutes past the hour a man suspected of organizing the killing of russian journalist anna politkovskaya has reportedly been arrested in moscow let's get the latest now from he got to pick it off you know we do know. a few details but can you tell us more about this suspect what do you know about him. first of all this is still a developing story and all this information is coming from. the newspaper journalist used to work but reportedly arrested is a former lieutenant colonel of the police and initially he was a witness in the investigation is somebody who had exclusive access to facts working with these suspects but investigators are reportedly now see that base especially to him being connected to other political from almost the very beginning
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it's only now reportedly that they've managed to gather enough evidence to charge this man with something his name is people. and he's now under arrest and these suspected of receiving. an order from somebody to war going to is this murder he allegedly found the people who would. conduct this act and supplied them with weapons. what has this brought the prosecutors any closer to closing this case that. well it's hard to say at the moment since this case and the investigation it will be fact there were several investigations all of them have been going on since two thousand and six when this murder happened on the course just to remind you it was a journalist who worked in. one of the newspapers in russia she focused mostly on the stories around and the human rights situation in russia and in two thousand and
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six she was shot dead right at the entrance at the entrance to her apartment building as she was entering basically her whole in central moscow in two thousand and six this caused a huge reaction both in russia and among the international community with people demanding that those who implemented this this crime are brought to justice there were four suspects from the beginning two of them are still under the investigation one more person was arrested just a few months ago and now they have these news are correct from. then the possible organizer of this crime is in custody at the moment as well you know we'll leave it there thanks very much indeed for that live update from central moscow. dominique strauss kahn the former head of the i.m.f.
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has been cleared of criminal sexual assault charges by new york court correspondent rena portnoy has the details. dominic strauss kahn has been cleared of all sexual assault charges that were filed more than two months ago and in a nutshell the prosecutors say that the accuser in this case thirty three year old nafissatou diallo is not a credible witness according to prosecutors they say that the accuser former cleaning lady at the self itself hotel here in new york was untruthful with investigators in virtually every interview prosecutors say she lied in matters great and small and that the problem in this circumstance is her credibility all these charges against him have been dropped however this order is on hold because the defendant. has appealed for a special special prosecutor in this case now the judge already denied that request for a special special prosecutor but we do have to wait and see what the appeals court
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says but as we know now the judge has dropped all this case of sexual assaults against dominique strauss kahn the one that has caused a scandal here in the u.s. and around the world the u.s. media jumped on dominique strauss kahn as if public enemy number one had been finally captured this man was through the ringer basically all the headlines of all the major newspapers essentially hired him guilty and mocking him skits were made about him i think it shows here in the u.s. we did see that in just a matter of a week dominic strauss kahn lost his job as head of the i am mouth he was his reputation was was completely dissolved. and then you know he was just basically a running joke but at this point we should also mention there is a civil suit that has been filed by ms diallo against dominique strauss kahn and many are imagining he will settle out of order if he wants this problem to just go
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away and that would require probably a good sum of money but at this point he's been pretty much vindicated on all these sexual assault charges. and speaking to me a little. history professor at the university of houston said only the u.s. prosecutor's office has come out of this well i see it as just the latest the latest chapter. in the probable i think don't need stress can are there is nothing surprising about about what happened in the hotel room more than two months ago i've always been a big fan of the simplest explanation for any particular problem and in the case of dominic strauss kahn one is in need of a conspiracy theory one doesn't need to look to political machinations on the other side of the atlantic to explain what has happened what happened is what's happened repeatedly in his past his lawyers have been minute that there was a sexual encounter what remains up in the air is the nature of this encounter was
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a consensual it was a true artist if it vindicates anybody in this affair a very sad affair it's the new york prosecutor's office in the wake of more than two months of intensive investigation they realize that their plane did in the only witness to this alleged crime was not credible. that brings us now to twenty and half minutes past the hour here in moscow i'll be back with the latest headlines very shortly stay with us life here in moscow.
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more news today violence is once again flared up. these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. trying to corporations are on the day.
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the. opposition claims to be in control of most of the. reporting. the former head of the international monetary fund. charges against him dropped the. prosecutors the case. you closer to closing the case in the killing of russian journalist anna politkovskaya. has. more on the situation in libya and other developments for you but first as a cash crisis rages across the united states and europe financial guru macs.

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