director apa national policy institute and that's going to do it for now i want to thank you so much for watching you can always go to our team dot com slash usa or you tube dot com slash r t america i stand for is out. as you know song was sixteen years old when he committed these murders that's not inside the song so it should not be punished for his crimes sean is. no rational person in the night out on has been punished is being punished and will be punished . by sours must be executed for the brutal crime he committed this is a punishment this is no reason to. imagine. that it's. causing. any mercy on you whatsoever.

and i didn't come here just. in here today for mercy. this time for the small. pond one thing. in mind that is not.

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three. goals read long live video for your media project free mediocre gogarty dot com. among those sister debbie lives not far from the penitentiary town she too used to take care of her nephew quite a lot when volunteer was out on the road well and laura knew her well. we're all for justice if it had been anyone. you know we'd been rock there with bales you know ringing it all because it's. payback it's pains and it's it's you know whatever but when it's someone that that you care about and

he did this. you know. it's mixed emotions it's it's unexplainable. it's. it's. it's. called for. and. so waste. he was the last. part of me. and my sister. his car. he was my sister's child she's gone now he's gone now they're all. in that's just not easy. do i feel

responsible for helping in his execution yeah. do i feel bad about it you know now do i feel bad for the grieving the jim and and. debbie went through yeah i feel sorry for their loss or do i feel horrible they lost more than i did. they lost vonda and sean i just lost my father and they lose more you bet grandfather jim jones and debbie refused to come to the execution on february fourth one thousand nine hundred nine sean took about six minutes to die.

i don't know what i thought. i saw him and. person i tried. i didn't want to. but i was so angry i still wanted to go. and i had great remorse sometimes for us most of the time i'm not thinking about it it's done it's done deal done and over ten years i've not had to worry that this one is just as nap and what if he gets out he gets out and they are worried about things they just had no worries years closure.

lorna know well we're not the only ones present at sean's execution and right there were also those who tried to save him. i think. jones execution left scars on his lawyer steve present. to go.

steve still lives in the little town of norman near oklahoma city. specializing in final appeals of a condemned he has lost eleven of the men he has defended and succeeded in saving only two of them are. going to. hear so many people who support the death penalty saying well it's part of our system we have it you know the only reason that we haven't is part of this of the system is because they won't act to change it and they they support the system and it's wrong and they don't know why it's something they don't know firsthand. or even second you know what. a horrible. process it is. they don't know when told one of their own family members has to go through it and

suddenly. they see everything wrong with. that case and others that shawn's it was i was pretty close to or. destroyed my faith in the american legal system before doing go through cases i had the highest confidence in our courts and our law enforcement is you know i was a cop for ten years. and i practiced civil law and i worked in the courts. i thought that things were good and far and it was seeing the machinery of the state moving so venomously. verma not only these people on death row two to extinguish their lives and ignoring good evidence and ignoring constitutional violations. just took it out of me. is made me it's made me better when i'm burned out. i

really dislike the system i dislike being a lawyer. that's what it is that. steve no longer attends the executions. many people in oklahoma claim that the executions are humane and painless. i'm heading to mcallister in the eastern part of the state where the penitentiary is located to find the man who executed sean sellers. in oklahoma the prison guards carry out the death sentences.

the simplest way is to run an ad in the local newspaper looking for officers who participated in the execution. i have no problem. you know i member shontelle or because he was a party guy that actually he was not an adult at the time which. was harder when i first became an issue being thank you note xan. thought of while remembering that exchange. when i want to flash bangs occasion.

was involved in oh morning. i was involved in approximately fifty two executions. proximately sixty execution. fred cook was in charge of sean's execution his father also executed prisoners and the electric chair fred is retired now but about johnny and then and he would use

a key big bagel he had but i mean you know me he done it paid one no two ways about it and. so nice dinner thing today if and we kept a moan death row nto such damage it was found a security man and we executed and once they come through that know where they know we would. they don't want to get on that day will they not be waved about it and so about it. what was going through sean's mind during his final moments. when an execution takes place belief a sudden says are injected from this room through these holes in the wall street recruits three citizens to carry out this task the law guarantees that they remain anonymous.

during the entire execution only the guards are in direct contact with the condemned prisoners. tim guarded the inmates cheering their final hours. elaine was one of the guards that would strap them to the gurney. dark as well. jane would bring the lethal chemical and see that the execution ran smoothly. fred the oldest planned the procedure.

eight nine minutes before the execution is good we are moving from when they say i'll take the men's out the execution chamber with a payment of six also very strange also when they first come out of a so they have this look on their thirty feet if you've known for twenty years and known for the whole time they have as little. disbelief yet you're going to be one of. the it's going to walk i'm in there the night here and you know legard and yanni goldener like i'm in they wished it was somebody else you wish it was somebody who knows. and well you said you walk up to the gurney and they look at you because they don't know they've never done this before there's a sense of stress maybe nervousness. as far as you know the same one individual that once they entered the door to the

chamber the nerves got to him so bad that they became weak in the knees and you know they just kind of and the strap down team just reached up and grabbed him by the arm and you know just held him up and assisted him on to the gurney and they look at you like for some direction you know certain way on the gurney and i look at you like you can you know i have cancer of it i'm telling you know what to do with it. you know and they get up there and the really what we do know was would you. prefer. to know as well why you do and i. can't tell me. i'm just going to keep doing. what you know when they look at you you know i've had him look at me. like he was a buyer say someone i just don't look at him i've just i would look at him and i would look at him so i don't want to say anything someone cries him i'm doubt that point toward i'm sorry let the execution began before he says that he waits

a little bit and that way if for the governor in case to gather call and that will that's the only way that they actually can get me start if the governor cart at that point and at that they'll start administer look into a system you have that moment of time if they you know i talk of any individual forty five minutes ago many individuals david. and. it's a humbling experience i mean you. that turn is just disbelief you know . because some of them i know for ten twelve fourteen year. you'll never forget about it you think about it until the day you know. ed fiction and how can that not of a child that you're taking some guy even know he's done something or somebody did over such a thing and some guy's trip. and basically you're putting him to death because

you're part of the whole process of doing it but yeah it bothers me to lose day i had nightmares i wake up waiting i wake up with herbal nightmares that they won't do no good to tell you because you wouldn't understand it unless you've been there. twelve years after the execution of song sellers i met only one participant of the story who didn't seem to have the slightest doubts.

this is oklahoma county's district attorney the man who demanded the death sentence for sean and. old maisie held office for close to twenty five years he is known in the us for being the d.a. who has obtained the most death sentences around sixty. macy always claimed a death sentence has a dissuasive effect and he reiterated that opinion joining sean's trial. this may not be the best way to stop the killing but it's the only way i know and i think these jurors are saying look you go you kill three people in this can't really give you the death beliveau for somebody else one. of. the district attorneys arguments always had the backing of the public one.

may see the un yelled and v.a. is now retired and lives on his farm a few miles from oklahoma city. i have seen in the execution yourself oh boy huh when the horror that most of us knows not much you know was up to the prosecutor from reading the charges recent past our lives and our usual death and. i don't think the satisfaction of joining us. is a nurse or law hopefully. among a lot of the law enforcement people who agree that he lives only turns oh over the years i have lived their lives just. like you say

you hope that it is a deterrent and means it is not proven oil that we. understand or i know of for you when you stop someone from the use of. the much feared district attorney who has never witnessed a single execution now admits that there has never been any perth's the death penalty has a dissuasive effect on criminality. the facts are bare in the twelve years since sean's execution oklahoma's crime rate has not decreased. or oh no worry or you private on who also bresnan

especially directly to young women and children and. i can explain to the wives having. problems are very horrible crimes i don't know how to exploit it. or if i would say had several cases one of this county were or friend or husband's as why should a baby against a wall and i don't want to live. person could do that kill a baby. a crime was that we are dealing with i don't want rehabilitation work rather commit these horrible horrible crimes. almost beyond redemption

how he had to teach somebody thought whoa that's the only answer on. because. if people only each other there would be killers who. can eat. the.

meat. the eat. eat fish eat eat eat was the. beat the truth. for many citizens of oklahoma the bible offers an irrefutable justification for the death penalty particularly the verses which are subject to widely differing interpretations about an eye for an eye a tooth for a target we have pastor don't just going to companies sean and many other prisoners both men and women are in their final moments now he no longer carries out this mission. there's asker for justify what we're doing today. and. are we doing it today because we like punishing people in my life

it's been it's been eight years now and now can finally talk about fully talk about hockey. to our regret. no i helped the person not that i was in favor of putting that person to bear and nothing was going to stop that i was there to help that person and i thought i was i would minister to the person i would talk to them i cannot do this any longer i can't put words in god's mouth but i don't think he would want the death penalty i think it would want us to sherlock and how to have a laugh in christ. can

believe in god. do you fear his judgment. while well more so you memories i'm so not or i'm out even though the chance that god is against death penalty.

six years after sean's execution the supreme court at long last ruled against capital punishment for minors. today three thousand three hundred prisoners are waiting on death row throughout the united states. and oklahoma the mortal remains not claimed by family are buried in the little cemetery in front of the penitentiary.

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