from washington at the start of criminals like. as you know song was sixteen years old when he committed these murders that's not to say that song so or should not be honest for his crimes sean is being honest no rational person and then either out on has been punished is being honest and will be honest. as ours must be executed for the little karmic matter this is my conscience this is not going to. imagine. that it's. constant any mercy on me whatsoever. no i didn't come here just. and heard they first.

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sister debbie lives not far from the penitentiary town she too used to take care of her nephew quite a lot when volga was out on the road well and laura knew her well we. were all for justice if it had been anyone arabs you know we'd been right there with. bells you know ringing it on because it's payback it's it's it's you know whatever but when it's someone that that you

care about. and you did the same you know thank you. but it's mixed emotions it's it's unexplainable. it's sad and it's. called for. so waste. he was the last. part of me. and my sister in. his car. he was my sister's child she's gone now he's gone now they're all. in that societies. do i feel

responsible for helping you and his execution yeah do i feel bad about it no no do i feel bad for the grieving that jim and. debbie went through yeah i feel sorry for their loss do i feel. they lost and more than i did. they lost vonda and sean i just lost my father did they lose more you bet. grandfather jim debbie refused to come to the execution on february fourth one thousand nine hundred nine sean took about six minutes to die

just so i don't know what. i saw and. person. like that because i didn't want to. but i was so angry i still wanted it to. be what it was. and i have great remorse sometimes for us most of the thinking about it it's done it's done deal done and over the years i've not had to worry goods what if this doesn't happen what if it gets out it's not the mayor worry that things did goods i had no worries seniors got closure.

lorna no well we're not the only ones present a chance execution that night there were also those who had tried to save him. thank. jones execution left scars on his lawyer

steve press and. steve still lives in the little town of norman near oklahoma city. specializing in final appeals of a condemned he has lost eleven of the men he has defended and succeeded in saving only two of them. and we hear so many people who support the death penalty say well it's part of our system we have it you know the only reason that we have it as part of the of the system is because they won't act to change it and they they support the system and it's wrong and they don't know why it's so they don't know first hand. or even second e.o. what. a horrible. process it is.

i don't know when told one of their own family members has to go through it and suddenly. they see everything wrong with. that case and others that i've done but seans because i was pretty close to. destroyed my faith in the american legal system before doing go through cases i had the highest confidence in our courts and our law enforcement because i was a cop for ten years. and i practiced civil law and i worked in the courts down but i thought that things were good and far and it was seeing the machinery of the state moving so venomously. very minutely against these people on death row two to extinguish their lives and ignoring good evidence and ignoring constitutional violations.

that just took it out of me. has made me so maybe bitter or i'm burned out. i really dislike the system i dislike being a lawyer. but it's that. steve no longer attends the executions. many people in oklahoma claim the executions are humane and painless. i'm heading to mcallister in the eastern part of the state where the penitentiary is located to find the man who executed shown sellers. in oklahoma the prison guards carry out the death sentences.

the simplest way is to run an ad in the local newspaper looking for officers who participated in the executions. i am a problem there. you know i member shontelle or because he was a party guy that actually he was not an adult at the time which. was more than i want to first. think i know xan.

thought of while i remembered that exchange. with twenty flash bangs occasion. was involved and i want to jump. i was involved in drugs only fifty two executions . proximately sixty executions. fred cook was in charge of sean's execution his father also executed prisoners and the electric chair fred is retired now

but about johnny and then and he would use a key big key had. i mean you know he is guilty he he'd known it they were no two ways of bad it and. so i seen a thing today if and we kept him on death row nto such time as it was found a execute him and then we executed. once they come through that there were they know. they don't have to get on well may no two ways about it and so that is. what was going through sean's mind during his final moments. when an execution takes place relief a sudden says are injected from miss room through these holes in the wall street recruits three citizens to carry out this task the law guarantees that they remain

anonymous. during the entire execution only the guards are in direct contact with the condemned prisoners. tim guarded the inmates during their final hours. lane was one of the guards that would strap them to the gurney. dark as well. jane would bring the lethal chemical and see that the execution ran smoothly. fred the oldest planned the procedure.

eight nine minutes before the execution is good you were moving from when they say oh take human sad execution chamber with a payment of six cops are very strange also when they first come out of the so they have this look on their thirty five if you've known for twenty years and be known for a long time we have this look. disbelief that you're going to be one of them that's going to walk i'm in what are you not hank and you're not a legard and a golden era like a mayor they wish it was somebody else you wish it was somebody else. but you said you walk a mile or the gurney and they look at you because they don't know they've never done this before there's a sense of stress maybe nervousness but as far as you know i seen one individual that once they entered the door to the

chamber the nerves got to him so bad that they became weak in the knees you know they just kind of and the strapped down pain just raised up and grabbed him by the arm and you know just held him up and assisted on to the gurney and they look at you like personal to rachel maddow you know certainly way on the gurney and they look at you like you can you know i've come sort of it and you know i did it. you know and they get up there and what would you want to do now you know when would you lay down here. you could turn around. and know ask what are you doing my. mom can tell me. do it and i want you to spread down and they look at you and you know him look at me. like he was a buyers they saw me i just don't look at him i didn't i just i would look at him and i would look at so much i don't want to say anything so mom cried some i'm go

point toward and say let the execution again before he says that he waits a little bit and that way for the governor in case together call and that will that's the only way that they actually can be stopped if the governor cart at that point and at that time they will start administering the drug into a system you have that moment of time to think you know i talked about individual forty five minutes ago that individuals. and. it's a humbling experience coming. time is just disbelief you know . because some of them i know for a tune twelve fourteen year. you'll never forget a betting of like about it until the day you know. aired fiction how can it not affectionate you're taking some guy you know he's done something to somebody and

you know this and you're taking some guys stripping him down and basically you're putting him to death because you're part of the whole process of doing it but yeah it bothers me to this day i had nightmares i wake up waiting i wake up with elbel nightmares that they won't do no good to tell you because you wouldn't understand it unless you've been there. twelve years after the execution of song sellers i met only one participant of the story who didn't seem to have the slightest doubts.

this is oklahoma county's district attorney the man who demands of the death sentence for sean. macey held office for close to twenty five years he is known in the us for being the d.a. who has obtained the most death sentences around sixty. macy always claimed that the death sentence has a dissuasive effect and he reiterated that opinion during sean's trial. this may not be the best way to stop the killing but it's the only way i know and i think the jurors are saying look you go you kill three people in this can't really give you the death penalty that hopefully somebody else will. do. the district attorney's arguments always had the backing of the public.

may see the onion olding d.n.a. is now retired and lives on his farm a few miles from oklahoma city. out here missing the executor of oh ha ha. on the already knows not much you know what jobs the prosecutor from running the charges present various airlines and are you sure that. i don't claim satisfaction or joy and moves. towards a nursery or a law or for. among a lot of the law enforcement people who agree that he lives illiterate i know

goodness i have listeners just like you say you hope that it is a deterrent it means it is not proven well have you. there's no way i know of for you when you stop someone ignorant is not. a much fear district attorney who has never witnessed a single execution now admits that there has never been any perth's that the death penalty has a dissuasive effect on criminality. the facts are very in the twelve years since sean's execution oklahoma's crime rate has not decreased.

right now were you or you privates on who was not present especially directly to young women and children and. i can explain three of wives having a minor crimes are very horrible crimes i don't know how to explain it. or if i would see had several cases one of this county were your friend your husband's aunt and smashed a baby against a wall and i don't want to listen. a person could do that until a baby or a crime is that we're dealing with i don't want rehabilitation work hard thinking commit these horrible horrible crimes. almost beyond

redemption how do you teach somebody. that's the only answer on. because. if people only each other there would be killers who. can eat. the.

meat. eat. fish eat eat eat eat eat was the thing. for many citizens of oklahoma the bible offers an irrefutable justification for the death penalty particularly the verses which are subject to widely differing interpretations about and i for a night i took for a test pastor don't duncan accompanied shown by many other prisoners both men and women in their final moments now he no longer carries out this mission. was. theirs i ask her for justify what we're doing today.

are we doing it today because we are punishing people in my life it's been. it's been eight years. and now i can finally talk about fully talk about my van. there are regret no help the person not that i was in favor of putting that person to bed and nothing was going to stop that i was there to help that person and at the thought i was i would minister to the person i would talk to them i cannot do this in your longer i can't put words in god's mouth but i don't think he would want the death penalty i think he would want us to share law and how to have life in

christ. do you believe in god. do you fear his judgement you know what well we're so yes i'm stoned or i'm out even though the chance that god is against death penalty.

was. six years after sean's execution the supreme court at long last ruled against capital punishment for minors. today three thousand three hundred prisoners are waiting on death row throughout the united states. and oklahoma the mortal remains not claimed by family are buried in the little cemetery in front of the penitentiary.

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