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with tight security involving dozens of guards. as a civil war in libya rages many say the country could go the way of digit and and up with a disillusion society impatient for reform but some believe it could be much worse argues lauren emma talks to newspaper editor abdel bari atwan for his views on recent events. i'm talking to abdel bari atwan who's the editor of the london based newspaper al could be he is obviously going to talk to me about libya and he says that there's a huge potential for libya to turn into another afghanistan i missed out on thank you for talking to r.t. today now explain to me what the factors are at play comparable between libya and afghanistan. there are a lot of similarities here between afghanistan and libya we have been made to intervention military intervention it is through this intervention is not actually
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sending troops on the ground but the same. way or another and try to say libya could like afghanistan the other point is you know libya. could turn to a failed state like what happened in afghanistan nobody can predict what will happen after that from we know from would be removed from power because he cannot actually hide me and he hasn't got back up abilities but the big question is you know whether that positional council which is that or presenting that will be able first to contain the differences divisions in its ranks second whether it is capable to run the country and to keep. as a united states that seems like an excellent overview of the issues but let's talk about the more specifically first of all where do you think gadhafi is at the
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moment what's he going to do you think you'll fight to the bitter end qaddafi is a very cunning despite to many people and that words you know describe him as a crazy mad i met him three times in my life he is you know. politicians whether we like it or not he calculates very well we don't know where he is actually hiding it took the need to american fifteen years to find osama bin laden and kill him i don't know how many months how many weeks how many years you know that it will take them to capture. nobody can kill where about he's hiding that he could be in. about x. minutes at about x. and tripoli he could be in sirte where his hometown people would be in the south where. it is there you know his tribe's actually situated so we don't know but definitely he is still alive and definitely used to libya for his son or his sons
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actually to to be in the area to be in playfully itself i think is a clear indication is that if you could be there you could be in play blitzer and as far as the mood on the ground goes what do you think will happen when and if the rebels catch him will they kill him will they they talk big about the international criminal court what do you think will happen it is a huge question is we don't know what will happen if he is captured we have a very bad experience when a better bill actually tried to capture. the human is the chief of staff of that we will army you know shoot him dead. his bodyguards probably so so so maybe the same thing could happen to get their feet we know that there is a you know a sense of revenge spreading that liberals and libya so it depends who is going to capture him if he is captured by fanatic. groups that are secret are almost
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he could be sure that you mention gadhafi. is really his favorite son and was the heir apparent how much power do you think he will to the moment he still actually popular among the loyalist of his father and his father supporter actually so he is important figure he knows how to communicate to meet with the media itself he's still a very prominent character among. interacts could benefit e.g. . whether he has military power i don't believe so he has some political part but you know i don't believe will survive in there i think the most he can actually to try to negotiate for a safe exit for him and for his family a good death is. presence or not libya is obviously key particularly because up till now the rebels have really been united by
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a common hatred of gadhafi how likely now do you think a violent splits in the transitional council is i think the problem after that post got there fair could be more actually problematic than the problem before or before the removal of canberra for the cheap because there is a huge slick split among the bills themselves and the factions who are participating in this fight. they are united by the hate toward cut that for you but if that is captured if he is killed i think you know now we will turn against each other and we know that some brigades you know who are fighting with their bills. by the extremist muslim groups. they wouldn't fight with the secular and the same time even belief used to talk to those secure lawyers or to those actually liberals and they consider them. part of the western conspiracy so maybe those people will turn against each other and also we knew that you know the
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majority of the people who are fighting muslim extremists or actually you know people who believe that they should slip mixtape and so how that the two is going to deal with those people after about a mobile of chemical are they going to legitimize them consider them illegitimate illegitimate after but part on the future libya so there are huge question marks here. personally i believe the post will be more problematic than that. david cameron has been talking about sending british troops to libya as a peacekeeping force but will that be enough to keep a lid on what is potentially a nation at war if david cameron sent. it's. army. personal on the banner of keeping peace in post gadhafi era this will
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be seed in libya and also in that upwards as a foreign intervention exactly like what happened in afghanistan and iraq and this would complicate the whole situation it could actually make some of those muslim extremists among the rebels to turn against the ones we shouldn't council and also to turn against nato so now we are fighting troops after being finished his job actually they might turn against that british or french troops who will be sent to keep and all that and and post got back here i so it could be a huge mistake from from parents and from sarkozy to to to actually send troops to leave the stakes are massive out there now nato and the u.k. specifically is talking about democracy by the libyan people how realistic do you think that is talking about democracy is very easy option actually practicing
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democracy. it is a very complicated process democracy cannot actually parachute to the people in the or in iraq or in afghanistan democracy is our culture it is a huge process first you have to start this process in a country like you know for the last forty years never had a multi-party system they never had the parliament been ever had institutions democratic institutions or any institutions so to start the democratic process actually it will take a long time but it is very sweet talks about about democracy and we know that under the banner of democracy the west intervened in afghanistan. look what happened for example in august we are going to celebrate that tenth anniversary of that invasion and occupation of afghanistan the worst now is our top. to true to the taliban in the beginning ten years ago they went there to. remove taliban from power. to
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destroy there and for structure nowadays you know there are throwing the poll there are talking to taliban and they want to have exit from afghanistan they lost or they are losing seven billion dollars a month the same thing in iraq you know now iraq is a completely different story and you know that democracy in iraq is very valuable democracy do you think the rebels basically sold off the oil when they accepted west and military support their finitely the need to bombardment played a major role in the success of their people to capture most of the cities of leap year to advance toward tripoli so. presumably there was a deal struck between that and libyan rebel that need to us and britain and france in particular we no need to is not a charitable organization we know that britain and france there are looking for
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contacts we are looking for we are looking for business in libya libya is destroyed completely undercut there for the team there is no infrastructure at all so i believe that libyan kick is very lucrative there you know that they want to share. how much. business actually was agreed by that the transitional council me been transitional council they need two countries especially britain france we don't know yet but definitely that nato is looking for a price and the libyan future government should pay and will pay a very heavy price for nato as it is not. a free service no definitely there is something behind that. i suspect that need to would like to have military bases in libya i suspect that you know british and french company is looking for exploration
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contacts abdel-bari atwan thank you very much. as you know song was sixteen years old when he committed these murders that's not to say that song so or should not be punished for his crimes so on is being punished no rational person can deny that sean has been punished is been punished and will be punished. by sours must be executed for the brutal crime committed this is a punishment this is not. imagine. since day. cause he's. been immersed know me whatsoever.
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his rebel forces have stormed colonel gadhafi compound in tripoli and once again claim to have controlled the. armed resistance was. following a fight to the death. russian investigators say they have information about who ordered the murder of the prominent russian journalist anna politkovskaya five years ago this fall arrest of a forward see witness in the case of a retired senior police official suspected of organizing the killing. and. whole top. part of the north korean leader's first visit to russia over a decade. armored train with tight security involving dozens of guards. as we headline here in our sports news next with.
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hello there thanks for watching the sports and these are the headlines almost a done deal angie agreed terms with inter milan for the signing of cameroon striker samuel l. two. while still sell some and now is ready to manage the city on the eve of a crucial champions league qualifier against the naisi. russian cycling team could two sure celebrate success of the tour spankers dan marino win states in the mountain. but first time left you will undergo a medical to days he prepares to join russian premier league side angie they've agreed to buy the cameroon striker from into my amp a thirty six million dollars if past the thirty year old is set to sign a three year contract and is due to arrive in russia on thursday and could even play against rostov on saturday the african star had been offered half a million dollars a week after tax that the salary of nearly thirty million dollars a year or around
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a billion rubles were bought by billionaire silly man carry him off in january then he said he was prepared to do whatever is necessary to make him a force in football and he's already brought in brazil legend roberto carlos a russian playmaker good each year and g.e. are currently fourth in the russian premier league. well it's also an important day for another russian club rubina trying to qualify for the group stages of the champions league but they have it all to do in the second leg of their play off against the on in case than needing to overturn a three one deficit from the first game i know have to do with that defender alec who is mean he's injured there's also a diet over the fitness of midfield that. the pressure is on for one aswell boss asked him bangor is depleted side trying to eat in a.z. after a narrow one near win at the emirates in the first leg of the gunners over that midfielder some imaginary after. green to sell him to manage the city for forty one million dollars that's on the back of the recent departure assessed fabregas to
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barcelona one bit of good news though is that it will be able to sit in the dugout tonight after all after breaching a touchline ban last week you a for have suspended a further ban until the ag of an appeal is heard so a turbulent few days for the club says arsenal are strong enough to make the group stage for a fourteenth season in a right. i never forced. to live comedy draft past me but question you know so. the same question do you feel under pressure to call before you force we want to qualify and not depend on no one. on how we replay your football or we'll replay a game we know to play. but. one playing the team. while in contrast to denies they have only reached the champions league group stage once that was five years ago and although they finished fourth in syria last season they too have lost the pace notably election sanchez the past but they'll be
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fancying their chances against aston who have failed to win in two games in the english premier league. games to saving benfica hopes f.c. twenty after the sides drew the first leg to see while f.c. copenhagen will have an uphill task despite making the last sixteen last season they need to overturn a three one deficit against czech sides with tory of pills and. go to austria to taste grass in the final game. and last night cypriot side up a well made the group stage between the crack of three one to go through three two one as the good by munich also progress their beaten juric three nil on aggregate dominating drad make the group stage take despite losing to the swedish counties now my they scraped three four three over the two legs the belgian champions gained they think of a high for their on penalties progress was funny cide get a reality pass a three three after banking back. to dana side at ten. for chelsea already
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through to the group stage and have unveiled their tinny teenage signings at their training ground at cobham belgian striker melo luca cool eighteen has arrived from and a leg and he was joined by nineteen year old spanish may feel that oriel rule from barcelona because r.k. was arguably the happier man i was he can i rub shoulders with his boyhood here i didn't. drug but i'm playing what he calls the biggest in the world. first of all of my future. after the jungle just wanted to shoot the coach. needs read the book for. another news russian cycling team could have got their first win at this year's tour of spain less spanish ride down young marino winning a grueling mountain stage in fact it was to suffer some riders tour de france green jersey winner mark cavendish was unable to keep up with the pallet and as it
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crossed the mountains between. sierra nevada and he abandoned the race with forty kilometers left of stage four no such problems though for marino he caught up with the leaders over the last few kilometers and then again it was a fight for the line between himself and croissants in the. guard but he could too sure man did enough to win by three seconds to a bunch of n.l. took the overall leaders red jersey. defending champion south africa have announced a tried and trusted squad for the upcoming rugby world cup captain john smit well again beat skipper after leading the side to victory in two thousand and seven in fact eighteen members of that winning side have been included in the thirty man squad which. was the only real shock inclusion south africa game will be against wales on september eleventh before facing the maybe if fiji and some new zealand in group d. which is a tough pool according to smit. you're pretentious charging for games
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and. you know with well. it's probably a pool you can have to treat with but we. hopefully will get some rest and not strict too much about namibia but i mean the rest of the team is going to be going to pose for moveable challenge very. serious history to prove to the pool sort of where you can sort of one of the most appealing and you don't want to create that for yourself and will end with a sport that has been played for thousands of years prior life but over the last century it has faded out in russia although now it is being revived with the help from the sport's historic powerhouse argentina over the dunny and as the story horses count among the most trusted friends of mankind in wildlife this is why polo is one of the most popular sports in this game was first played in persia more than two thousand years ago and has only slightly changed since then. it still takes the
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same skills to score goals with a long handled maillard on the field that's twice as big as a football pitch. the most important thing in polo is probably the so-called chemistry between the man and the horse they should be sympathetic to each other also it's crucial to learn the equitation in childhood although even adult persons who come to the sport late can reach pretty good results in terms of training hard every day back at the turn of the twentieth century was quite a popular sport in russia but after the revolution the tradition was broken it was only brought back to life several years ago and the most cool polo club which was established in two thousand and six by six year old junker is now one of the major centers for the sport it also hosted the russian open championship which was being held for the sixth time you need a lot of players you need a lot of horses you need a lot of competition as in any sport you need to practice practice practice you
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need to invest invest invest and so far. we're doing what we can but it's all private and it's all based. on of the players themselves and their money. and in terms of price horses are like cars it's not only about how expensive it is it's very important to choose the one that would suit you in this respect you should always take an expert's advice as with the price it may be from eight to ten thousand dollars saying argentina and up to five hundred thousand dollars it's emotions and human resources are always a crucial factor in this respect call in russia as a competitive advantage the traversal brothers to grandmasters from the sport's powerhouse argentina these term around glamorous russian fans of this elite sport have got unique opportunity to get up close with their known for a short masterclass on the secrets of polo and witness the rush. open finals where
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the tournaments top player and a hundred left his team beluga to victory. however there is still a lot to do to make question pull competitive in the international arena is a low now because it's new it is a new sport here and we need a lot of work. and we need. to know what is bordeaux because a little bit doesn't know what he's. but i think he's improving. with a publishing deal with this he's possible to come more prepared to play polo has never been only about winning and losing with another member of the winning team russia's kopel book titian or me how you were drunk or being the best proof of it. first the better you treat your horses the better they perform i don't care if i lose or win i just enjoy it it's
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a team sport and first of all it team here means the horse and the rider and that's the best thing about it. and that idiot which often leaves the fastest way to success. for it but in your own party school region. and that's all the sport we've got time for for the moment so i'm back again in two aston. hungry for the full story we've got it first hand the biggest issues get a human voice face to face with the news makers on the. wealthy british science diet pills in half past the time it. is. margetts finance scandal. find out what's really happening to the global economy in the kinds of reports on our t.v.
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don't comb. the budget good job don't do most of the. budget good but don't go to libya's rebel forces celebrate storming colonel could obvious compound in tripoli and once again claim to have control of the city but gadhafi vows to fight to the death. machine of the naive children and think that these rebels are these nice little folks who want democracy and freedom and donald experts warn of a new struggle for power that might emerge between the rebels when could obvious regime is toppled. a major breakthrough in the alcoholic case investigators say they know who ordered a russian journalist murder and false tuesday's arrest of the man suspected of organizing the killing. and the leader of the world's.
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