about fifteen minutes from now in the meantime as the civil war in libya rages many say the country could go the way of egypt and end up with the disillusioned society impatient for reform but some believe it could be much worse or to talk to a newspaper editor. for his views on recent events. i'm talking to abdel bari atwan who's the editor of the london based pan arabic newspaper al could be he is obviously going to talk to me about libya and he says that there's a huge potential for libya to turn into another afghanistan i missed out on thank you for talking to r.t. today now explain to me what the factors are at play comparable between libya and afghanistan. there are a lot of similarities here between. afghanistan and libya we have been made to

intervention military intervention it is through this intervention is not actually sending troops on the ground but the same. way or another and try to say. like afghanistan the other point is you know libya. could turn to a failed state like what happened in afghanistan nobody can predict what will happen after that we know from would be removed from power because he and i actually need to spend he hasn't got back up abilities but the big question is whether that positional council which is that of presenting that bill will be able first to contain the differences in divisions in a second whether it is capable to run the country and to keep. as a united states that seems like an excellent view of the issues but let's talk

about the more specifically first of all where do you think gadhafi is that maybe what's he going to do you think you'll fight to the bitter end qaddafi is a very cunning despite to many people and that you know describe him as a crazy mad i met him three times in my life he is you know i shewed politician whether we like it or not he calculates very well we don't know where he is actually hiding it took the need to under american fifteen years to find osama bin laden and kill him i don't know how many months how many weeks how many years you know it will take them to capture. nobody can kill where about he's hiding that he could be in the barracks medicated but i guess in paper only he could be. his hometown he could be in the south where. it is there you know his tribes actually situated so we don't know but definitely he is still alive and definitely

used to libya to for his son his sons actually to to be here to be improperly itself i think this is a clear indication is that if you could be there it would be incredibly itself and as far as the mood on the ground goes what do you think will happen when and if the rebels catch him will they kill him or they they talk big about the international criminal court don't know what you think will happen it is a huge questions we don't know what will happen if he is captured we have a very bad experience when a better bill actually tried to capture. the human is the chief of staff or that they will army you know shoot him dead they have burned his bodyguards bodies also so maybe the same thing could happen to get their feet we know that there is a you know a sense over event spreading that rebels and libya so it depends who is going to capture him if he is captured by fanatic. groups that are secure or

muslim he could be sure that you mention gadhafi. is really his favorite son and was the heir apparent how much power do you think he will it's at the moment he still actually popular among the loyalists of his father and his father supporter actually so he is an important figure he knows how to communicate with the media itself he's still a very prominent character among. so whether he has military power i don't believe so he has some political part but you know i don't believe that feeling will survive and i think the most he can actually to try to negotiate for a safe exit for him and for his family a good death is. presence or not libya is obviously particularly because up till now the rebels have really been united by

a common hate. how likely now do you think of violence in the transitional council is i think the problem after that post got there fair could be more actually problematic than the problem before or before the removal of canberra for the cheap because there is a slick split among. themselves and the factions who are participating in this fight. they are united by the hatred toward cut that for you but if that is if he is killed i think you know now we will turn against each other and we know that some brigades you know who are fighting with their bills. extremist muslim groups. they wouldn't fight with the secular and the same time even belief used to talk to those secure those or to those actually liberals and they consider them. part of the western conspiracy so maybe those people will turn against each other and also

we knew that you know the majority of the people who are fighting muslim extremists or actually. people who believe that they should slip mixtape and so how that need to is going to deal with those people after the mobile of chemical are they going to legitimize them consider them illegitimate illegitimate after but part on the future libya so there are huge question marks here personally i believe the post will be more problematic than that. david cameron has been talking about sending british troops to libya as a peacekeeping force but will that be enough to keep a lid on what is potentially a nation at war if david cameron sent. it's. army. personnel on the banner of keeping peace in post gadhafi era this will

be seen in libya and also in that upwards of one intervention exactly like what happened in afghanistan and iraq and this would complicate the whole situation it could actually make some of those muslim extremists among the rebels to turn against the incident council and also to turn against nato so now would be our fighting troops after being finished his job actually they might turn against that british or french troops who will be sent to keep and all that in and post gadhafi and i so it could be a huge mistake from from friends and from sarkozy to to actually send troops to leave the stakes are massive out there now nato and the u.k. specifically is talking about democracy by the libyan people how realistic do you think that is talking about democracy is very easy option actually practicing

democracy. it is a very complicated process democracy cannot actually question to the people in iraq or in afghanistan democracy is our culture it is a huge process first you have to start this process in a country like you know for the last forty two years never had the multi-party system never had the parliament been never had institutions democratic institutions or any institutions so to start the democratic process actually it will take a long time but it is very sweet talks about democracy and we know that under the banner of democracy the west intervened in afghanistan in iraq look what happened for example in august we are going to celebrate that tenth anniversary of that invasion and occupation of afghanistan the worst now is our top. true to reinstate taliban in the beginning ten years ago they went there to remove taliban from power

. to destroy there and first lecture nobody's you know there are thrown the toll there are talking to taliban and they want to have exit from afghanistan they lost or they are losing seven billion dollars a month the same thing in iraq you know now iraq is a completely different story and you know that democracy in iraq is very valuable democracy do you think the rebels basically sold off the oil when they accepted western military support there finitely the need to bombardment played a major role in the success of their people to capture most of the cities of leap year to advance toward tripoli so. presumably there was a deal struck between that and lead be unbearable that need to us and britain and france in particular we know nato is not a charitable organization we know that britain and france there are looking for

contacts they are looking for they are looking for business in libya is destroyed completely undercut there for the team there is no infrastructure at all so i believe that libyan cake is very lucrative and they're you know they want to share how much. business actually was agreed to by the council vision and council and they need to come that is especially britain france we don't know yet but they're frantically that nato is looking for a price and the libyan future government should be and will be a very heavy price for nato as it is not. a free service no definitely there is something behind that. i suspect that need to would like to have military bases in libya i suspect that you know british and french company is looking for exploration

contracts abdel-bari atwan thank you very much. as you know was sixteen years old when he committed these murders that's not to say that chancellor should not be punished for his crimes sean is. no rational person can deny that charge has been punished is being punished and will be punished. by sours must be executed for the greater. punishment this is not nothing. you. mention. that. because you've been immersed nami whatsoever. and i didn't come here just

first. and heard the first. star of this man. martin. and my thought is now.

top stories this hour marty back to earth with a bomb engine failure causes russia's unmanned cargo spacecraft progress to crash in the remote that was one hundred kilometers away. head of libya's rebel government meet european leaders leave those two for his country's oil riches meanwhile nato rushes to prevent stockpiles of gadhafi has chemical weapons falling into the wrong hands. north korea is ready to hold nuclear tests if six party talks are resumed so says the countries the news of lead on a rare trip to russia. iran falls a little suit against russia reverends refusal to supply s. three hundred missiles saying they don't fall under a u.n. resolution preventing weapons in. brings up to date for the moment i'll be back with more news when fifteen minutes from now the mean time they just sports news with kate and something that we've been following in the last couple of hours here

in the news desk more on football's big transfer story. the wednesday night sports roundup on this busy football transfers and european action and here are the headlines. started rushing club angie finally complete the signing of cameron strike. into milan on a three year deal set to make him one of the world's highest paid players. while the last gasp of blood grab a late equaliser to break rubin's hearts and knock the russian side out of the champions league. and go top the netherlands and spain's. thirteen month weigh in as the world's best football team. but first cameroon interland striker samuel eto has finally signed a three year deal with free spending russian side energy to become one of the world's highest earning plays

a spokesman for the dagestan club revealed the african star completed his high profile move after undergoing a medical in rome the big name acquisition set back an estimated thirty million dollars while his wages are reportedly around a quarter of a million dollars a week the thirty year old is due to arrive in russia on thursday to meet his new team mates and that includes brazil legend roberto carlos and recent sign a call from chelsea was gorged by billionaires who have and could evolve in january who said he was prepared to do what was necessary to make the club a force in football a currently force in the russian premier league. well in stark contrast with angie you have apparently limitless funds another russian top flight side is about to go bankrupt f.c. told claim that they can't even afford the trip to korea so that of next month which means saturday's home game against am can be their last in the premier after losing four games in a row their boss is a calling for sponsors to step in as the players have endured almost three months without pay. while they bring lunch to city have completed the signing of

midfielder samir nasri from austin all the twenty four year old franz playmaker has penned a four year deal which was worth a reported forty million dollars now it's rejoins the likes of spain's the big silver and argentina's. up front at the cash rich club as also have sold a second star midfielder in as many weeks following the departure of said fabregas to barcelona last tuesday. and also putting pen to paper with spain left winger juan mata is doing chelsea there on a five year deal the twenty three year old has taken part of his first training session with the blues their facility in kabul and is available for saturday's game is home to norwich. and really the european football. rybin have failed to make the group stages of the champions league after the twice former russian champions were held to a late one one draw at home to lille to bow out of the play off with a fourteen aggregate defeat while the hosts needed eight to dowhen or better to go

through after losing the away leg three one but having that's away goals and off the seventy seven minutes is relevant to give us the national gave rubin a camera of zero point firing the home side one nil up however as we've been told forward in search of a second goal that could have put them through a record on the break with three minutes to go back to the code they headed in the equaliser to make it one or on the rise and fall to rule well in the meantime the pressure is also on arsenal manager arsene wenger his depleted side have trouble to naisi in northeast italy after a narrow one zero win at the emirates in the first leg as well as those high profile sales the gunners are also without influential midfielder jack wilshere as well as defenders lauren shelley and kiran gibbs however bangor will be able to sit in the dugout for the time after apparently breaching a touchline ban last week wait to have suspended a further ban while an appeal will be heard after the match and the frenchman he's confident his side could reach the group stage for a fourteenth season in

a row. because we want to qualify on. one. game we know to play. but you should both one play. well by contrast naisi have only reached the champions league group stage once and that was five years ago and although they finished fourth in syria last season they have also lost key players there to alexis sanchez to barcelona but they'll be fancying their chances against arsenal you have failed to in their opening two games in english premier league. well in other games as well as they benefit to hold a two away goal advantage as they host f.c. twente of great teaching first leg draw backs in copenhagen have an uphill task despite making the last sixteen last season they need to overturn a three one deficit to get checked champions to their position you want but a very soft go to austria to play sure but asking offering one first leg draw kawar

to stay separate side after well went through to the group stage by the time these were crack of three one to go three three two one hundred s. y. and munich are also through after raising our series three over all that i have also qualified of despite losing to me all to swedish champions now might they scrape through for three to two legs of belgian champions gang defeated like a beehive of penalties to progress its funny side mirella also safety through the balancing that in their first they defeated two danish side but instead. and in the meantime one club we missing from the thirty two strong line up for thursday's group stage draw and battles turkish champions spent about three are pulling out of the competition on the orders of the national football federation. istanbul is suspected of rigging games to win the title last season and extensive match fixing investigation has been tearing apart the turkish super league for months but it's still unclear who will replace and in the champions league. well meanwhile three

russian teams remain in contention for a place in the group stage of the europa league as though sponsors will take two example away goals into their second leg. day after drawing in poland last week and one quarter of how small. it's a result after the first leg of the europa league play off match seems to be more inspired talks favor than their rivals after all the muscovites can still qualify for the next round even with a nil nil or a one one draw however the polish side are probably not going to stick around in defense and will want to george the red and whites goal continuously while another two two draw seems unlikely in this return leg only one goal could send either team on to the group stages of the europa league this will probably be the toughest much since i began coaching leggy a year ago but we're not afraid and came to moscow full of desire to fight and we're hoping to win we had

a few chances it moves through and i hope we'll have enough of them here to play gays coming off a two one home defeat in a match where it was considered a hot favorite in the latest round in the polish league that could mean several things including the fact that the team finds it hard to cope with two matches a week well it's either that or leg it was conserving energy as head of the europa league play off against spartak moscow i don't think le guin lost that match because the team is weaker than that particular opponent a match against them in poland was very emotional and took away a lot of their energy the polls admitted that match against spartak was their best performance in the recent years well spartak drew in their last away match in the russian premier league against their namesakes from however it seems that sparked sox performance doesn't fall into a certain pattern after all before their two two draw in the first leg against the red and whites thrashed one of russia's most promising sides and scoreline of three

in l. . in addition to sports. away goals in this guy the red and white it's also have a home pitch advantage on this return leg it's highly unlikely that the eighty thousand seat luzhniki stadium will be filled to capacity however the fans of this most decorated russian club are known for their great support in any number three man calls for of moscow. spain maybe the reigning world and european champions but they're no longer the number one football team in the world according to the latest rankings that on and that goes to the netherlands for the first time the dutch have ended spain's thirteen months ballot number one after the spanish lost to italy in a friendly and the netherlands game against england was cancelled at five pm capello's men do rise to places to number four germany all third in the table which is based on results over the last four years. america's success means that up to fifth with brazil dropping to sixth it's only portugal argentina and croatia

complete the top ten from russia five places to thirteenth the dutch needed seven nation to hold top spot long argentina brazil france germany and italy. now rain volleyball world champions russia have made a winning starts to their campaign in the world grown pre-fight in macau as he got in a gang member and colleagues survived a minus get to act last thailand well the title were making their debut in the final round of the prestigious event and favorites russia judy to a two set lead but they wobble in a tight third set to lose it twenty seven twenty five however they pull themselves together to rematch in force that's also victories for holders america top ranked brazil and china. major sports red bull are leading the way in formula one and they have also paved the way what will be the circuit of the americas next year consultant and former driver david coulthard got back behind the wheel to test out

what he still currently a dirt track in texas and which will make its debut on the f one under the fifteen months circuit in the state capital of austin is set to host the last one race of the twenty twelve season and it's hoped this will raise the profile high octane sport in america. have all the sport for this evening by foot. wealthy british style.

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back to earth with a bomb engine failure causes russians all manned cargo spacecraft and progress to crashing the remote impact was felt one hundred kilometers away. the head of libya's rebel government meets european leaders to hold his country's oil riches meanwhile nato rushes to prevent stockpiles of chemical weapons into the wrong hands. north korea is ready to halt nuclear tests if the six party talks all resumed so says the countries and lucidly them on a rare trip to russia. and iran falls a lawsuit against russia over its refusal to supply three hundred missiles saying they don't fall under un resolution preventing weapons imports top stories this hour.