you believe the bullshit story if you go to trade according to the shari'ah is all the problems go to that issue the id the police themselves the laws of such and where can they do all of this the u.k. of course staff have several muslim leaders get their way so can western values and muslim customs actually coexist and what does this mean as libya may be leaning towards syria. and the rebels might have taken control of gadhafi compound but they're not out of the woods yet after all of the dust settles in libya there's only one person left on everyone's mind now what. america is the greatest country in the world but it didn't get that we're going to. focus like a true politician he's also a walking talking contradiction and anti immigration cuban american i mean i will

tell you how marco rubio might just be the next neo-con in chief. good evening it's wednesday august twenty fourth it's eight pm here in washington d.c. i'm lauren lyster and you're watching our t.v. well by now you probably know that libya's moammar gadhafi is wanted dead or alive there is a one point six million dollars bounty out on his head is that large though he pledged overnight in an address to the nation he will fight until victory or martyrdom meanwhile though the rebels seized control of the colonel's compound the rebel leaders are reportedly moving their headquarters to tripoli so the question now becomes what will the government look like in a post gadhafi libya and of course just who are the rebel leaders who will come to power while the national transitional council though they haven't been elected they claim to be the only legitimate government right now and

a draft constitutional charter purportedly from them has appeared online here is an excerpt libya is an independent democratic state where in the people are the source of authorities. islam is the religion of the state and the principal source of legislation is islamic jurisprudence or otherwise known as shari'a law so it's based on shari'a law fair enough but is this the kind of democracy that president obama had mind when he said that the u.s. was justified in dropping bombs on the country to back the rebels for this reason the united states also strongly supports the universal rights of the libyan people that includes the rights of peaceful assembly free speech the ability of the libyan people to determine their own destiny determine their own destiny you know regardless of what that is going to be senator john mccain went on t.v. to disprove the idea that it would involve shari'a reporting this about the

transitional council back in march on march eleventh of they have issued a manifesto and i quote just from one sentence of it the state will guarantee the rights and empowerment of women and all legal political economic and cultural spheres i have detected no. effort or motivation amongst the national transition council many of whom i know well to impose shari'a law. they are his buddies sound by the way talked about those who knows very well on the rebel side but that the same mccain that my view two years ago met could dopy send a late night with him on his ranch said he'd shared an interesting meeting with an interesting man later when he talked about it which is widely quoted and you also promised back then to help is off to get us military hardware as a u.s. partner in the war on terror that's new that's according to us cable just released by wiki leaks which reveals a very friendly meeting now that aside back to history

a debate is not new it harks back to iraq a war and an occupation that after the weapons of mass destruction excuse fell through was justified by bush for a different reason he said it was part of a global democratic revolution led by the us but a struggle ensued then between iraq the desires for shari'a law for the country and an american desire to tone it down in fact at one point american leaders who were involved in this vetoed earlier rocky plans for a larger role of shari'a in the constitution but what ended up happening in shrine in iraq's constitution is a blend here is an observed islam is the official religion of the state and is the foundation source of legislation now while it says that no bomb may be enacted that contradicts the stablish provisions of his lawn it also says that no gone may be enacted that contradicts the principles of democracy so shari'a still in there still a foundation and they were not saying anything about shari'a or what kind of laws

a country should or should not an act the point is that this was not what u.s. leaders told america it was paying for but eight hundred billion taxpayer dollars and close to forty five hundred u.s. lives when it went into iraq and that's not to mention iraq is killed or displaced of a whole other issue so we'll have to look at what the lessons are here as comparisons are being made between libya now and iraq back in two thousand and three. well earlier i spoke to one of the top one hundred modern thinkers that's according to foreign policy magazine to try to get some answers he's in the room he's a writer and academic also a journalism professor at barge guard college and i started off our conversation by asking this can we expect to see a repeat in libya like we saw in iraq where an authoritarian regime but a secular one is overthrown and the secular elements of the opposition go over to the islamic here's what he said. well you know if i made on that list of one

hundred intellectuals lamas as well as people are going to let mark there but that doesn't next live here and i think even experienced it really know what to do government is going to invite so it's all speculation it is quite possible that it will its longest regime whatever comes back in the end then what it's replaced but that doesn't necessarily mean it will be less democratic it's almost impossible that the listing correctly and. the ok but but here's a question if shari'a is enshrined in libya in the constitution in some way is this a threat or a challenge to western values because if you watch fox news you do you don't have to be a genius to pick up on the fact that a lot of people think that's the case if you've got a problem. that may be a problem the question is how it how it's interpreted and how it's incorporated i don't think you know in the slavic text but i don't think that there is

a consensus this was not one interpretation should realize there are many countries which are english and they should use korea in different ways and. it's an equal basis so it could be but it basically should readers about written it's really it's been anything could be a little it's supposed to be grounded in islamic values justice and heap in this country and states you know i don't want to repeal the law should be based on christian heritage and how that's done how much room for the rights of minorities what rights are you speech and so on and that this is what country and country and so how much precedence to such as free speech and agenda requests and so on i read it depends on how the interim you know you brought up an interesting point. you mentioned that you know whether or not people disagree like yourself

with it that that u.s. law than the u.s. constitution is based on you could argue christian notion than values so is it any surprise that a muslim country majority muslim country would want the same thing for their constitution. prize if there is of course a big difference in a real threat to secular democracy or. is not such a. religious institution and that's a particular when this institution such as the catholic church for example have a real. political base and vatican with its hierarchy. so it doesn't really exist in the world there is no it's not there is no source of real religion so so it's hard to see how rock freckle here could. and if. for example freedom of speech would be out of work and some of it from

traditional religious basis but it's not the values it's your oratory that's. ok for the authorities so then my question is is there a problem for the united states when the united states calls for democracy and the will of the people in libya to prevail if libya chooses shari'a and she was is that whether it's a blend of the values or the authority isn't that democracy if that's what they choose but it would certainly be a problem if it were it is longest go. it could be very literal you really and trying to impose all kinds of liberal. those around the country that would make it if it were it would be a threat to democracy it's a great liberal blogs not obviously not be a good thing in the first place for the media and so it's.

second place it might be appropriate to stage with the rest well but what problem could it pose to the united states or to the western world. for example if you had an islamic government that was very actively in militant anti reston. program in a country that's a major oil supplier. it could be a problem because it weeps abseiling the general climate in a very volatile middle east and so on so there are potential problems there i mean the more liberal democratic countries like libya will be the better. well the united states and the other had it's also very possible to have the rocker sing which turns out to be anti west and i'm going to nationalistic that could be represents the popular current in the country it's not that it's an see or even if it were to be graphic in its mission should the us speak out very loudly or get

involved to not have it be a government that is anti western because you have made the point that the us going out and spreading democracy has got a really bad name after iraq and afghanistan pretty much democracy by armed force and going there and i think in the in the middle east today or anywhere. thanks very much in flux less interference there is the west the better it is this is something that there have to sort out. their country they have to fight the system specs of them and most of us western countries in general. into the directory to shape their future the more likely it is but this will cause great resentment against the west and correctly which which then does what. that question right there. says it's in

a jewels very strategic interest there is. in your. and that was what could happen according to amber room a writer academic and news professor of democracy human rights and journalism at art college now this is not a discussion that just applies to libya or to iraq this is also a conversation that's going on in western democracy this is a conversation happening right now in london and here is why here's a report from our toddler and. so we are here to tell you that his mom. is unstoppable in europe stoning for adultery cutting off hands for stealing from renouncing islam this group of men is trying to enforce shari'a law in the u.k. they've started a campaign to make certain areas of london and other cities islamic law controlled

zones starting with walthamstow east london will be along the good of being evil because i knew somebody will try to put the muslim and all muslim community also looking to believe that was suspended for gather trade according to the sharia is all the problems according to the sharia i do the police themselves to a large extent hopefully one day to have a summit governorates bush will have apology locally security locally and you provide welfare locally childfree and his friends are fly posting parts of london with large muslim populations they want to ban drinking gambling and playing music and they say they've got bands of young men ready to patrol and in full shari'a law by any means now that enforcement will not initially be in on the level of inviting and had been fairly innocent as a capability of in this century so evil by pornography prostitution should do so. by that we think of course i believe the pressures that are needed most should be

run out of the area these muslims say british society is broken little with drugs crime and prostitution because of that they firmly believe members of the communities they're targeting will welcome sharia law but the word of the street about the campaign tells a different story comes down so if you don't like the laws of the place you live find some critical laws and and all of these things are completely legal in this country so this is not in zero pakistan this is our own laws people have no rights can here bring their laws in here we often have caused trouble but councillor martin isa a. griese say this could destroy community cohesion we've run the taken down the post this assumes that because we do not want these posters around i do not represent the future and that they have no place to move and for us this is an equality campaigners say this should real supporters shouldn't be considered a religious movement because of right a political organization with

a place to campaign designed to divide and conquer communities the danger lies in dividing people dividing communities and creating mistrust and particularly among from non muslims towards moderate muslims i think this is part of their aim is to create mistrust so they can then turn to moderate muslims and say look everyone hates you we are friend turn to us i'm going to see very very dangerous thing as a political tactic to increase their own power undeterred by opposition challenge really his group plan what they see is the beginning of an islamic emirate not just of the. europe police have mobilized to take these posters down as fast as they appear but choudhry and his group say they've formed bands of vigilante in forces to make sure she is here to believe all physically and in other parts of london women have already been harassed for not covering their heads if these muslims ever

get their way i won't be able to dress like this on the streets of both them stone or many other parts of london brussels rome and paris and it's party girl from stone loved. the question there goes from london to libya we've even seen debate here in the united states was trying to pass laws to ban sharia preemptively but the question going back to libya for the united states remains why was the u.s. involved really congressman dennis kucinich has some questions or ideas he is the congressman from ohio a democrat he asks in an article was the cia and all. implanting regime change before protests broke out in benghazi in february and did the cia that have a role in creating this civil war earlier i spoke with a journalist and he is a former cia officer himself jack right and i asked him if he thinks the cia was playing a role in the via even before this uprising and the process began here's what he said. let's be honest the cia is involved in every place they try to

get involved they were at least on the ground in egypt they tried to be on the ground everywhere in every major country in the region in tripoli is one of those places you would have expected them so to deny it. so i think what percentage what is to just talking about is a reasonable but i think one of the problems that we have is the u.s. has a very strict different relationship in sort of approach to the middle east in general talk about democracy and how we're supporting the rebels and how incredibly close to protect human rights etc but we've made that very same argument in egypt but that ignores the fact that we supported barak for decades as our very closest ally in the region how do you reconcile that those two i think there's a lot of people in the middle east who are there we question of course i mean at the same question that comes up in countries like bahrain where the united states

has not had the same reaction as it did to libya where of course there is a powerful geopolitical partner as well as a very important source of oil but libya is a different situation and the united states has had a different relationship with the leader and with that country do you think that regime change was a plan of the united states said earlier on then than what it unfolded in the civil war. i think that rather says the answer is yes i think if we look at what we found with the arab spring in general when all of a sudden you realized that egypt could fall egypt was going to fall over sudden it opens the broader question of what else can change in the region and what else can we change in our favor and let's face it let's never deny that with the u.s. is doing here this isn't about protecting the people of libya this is about american interests first and foremost we can shine to suffer are we wrong on the

left or right question the republican or democratic question is american foreign policy question it's cold blooded is the problem that we have is reconciling when we say one thing but we turn around and do another and regardless of that hypocrisy doesn't the us realize that this could all backfire and it states i mean my last and i were talking about the that sharia law could be this and that which is not something with which the united states would want anything to happen in other countries and be a struggle in iraq so this could not go the way that the united states wants it leaders have to know that. without question. interesting there are a lot of conversations across the diplomatic world right now. just three but this morning. it were to be billed well the first thing we have to do is get some stability on the ground to match what happens with all of these twenty something

year old kids and they are kids in many cases roll into these compounds and walk out with a lot of weaponry on the streets that look you on the streets of tripoli where do you believe that the americans do it all of a sudden these guys dream of this idea that was what we need is for sure really what we need is more than what we saw from gadhafi that's the problem how do you reconcile that i haven't had a chance or i haven't heard answers certainly not as of yet if you like as jack rice journalist and former cia officer and some u.s. lawmakers think they have an answer to the questions he posed it to criticize obama over libya and one example of this guy's florida senator marco rubio is one who said obama's policy was too late last night though he was well known for a different reason senator rubio came to the rescue of nancy reagan it was at a speaking of event at the reagan library in california take a look at this he caught her from falling that's what made mainstream media had

lines at least look at that very valiant who do you really need to know about this senator i'll tell you it's more than that a road back even though the republicans don't have their candidate for president yet his name is getting a lot of air time with the vice presidential prospect he's a cuban american politician is also an ardent defender of american exceptionalism but has people think he just might be the next neo-con in chief taking the mantle from senators like joseph lieberman and john mccain here's what else you need to know about the republican party's golden boy. here with us now yahoo is making waves he's the rising star in the republican party marco rubio. one of your marco marco you're a troublemaker we're hearing reports that he not here marco rubio senator from florida america's the greatest country in the world but it didn't get that way by accident cuban americans. and neoconservative becoming

a world power was never america's plan but that's exactly what the american economic miracle meter rubio got his start in south florida as one of cuban american congresswoman ileana ros lehtinen interview he rises in part because. in order to. show you have to have a policy. and so. unexpectedly rice is like well like foam. politics of florida and quickly made the leap from state legislator to u.s. senate and although he invoked his parents struggle as cuban immigrants whether they came here on the mayflower on a slave ship or on an airplane from havana we are all descendants of the men and women who built here the nation that saved the world. see. how this comprehensive immigration reform and the dream marco rubio maybe the

republicans superman but the way he handles immigration is this kryptonite and supports english only law even though he ran his campaign in spanish the fact is that when he ran for senator he was able to advertise in spanish saying i'm an immigrant too and it garnered a fair amount of support rubio represents the hallmarks of the neo conservative movement leveling this criticism that president obama's taxes on wealthy americans it's class warfare and it's the kind of language that you would expect from a leader of a third world country not the president of the united states supporting a strong military america still the only watchman on the walls of freedom. and there is still no one to take our place and light senators before him any experience of abroad tyrants of always lied about america's intentions because they fear our values our only interest in serious and we hope our people will have the same freedoms we do as well as fewer regulations for big business if we could just get the government to ease up on some of these onerous regulations the american

people will take care of the rest because this idea about america being exceptional it's not something i read about in the book rubio's vision has been embraced by tea partiers and new conservatives alike the glories of this is united states past when everything was in order when when everybody was. no genocide no slavery no nothing like that just the founding fathers of the firmament of stars . that's the world in which he lives are those that say oh yes i've got two thousand and twelve presidential race heats up america might be seeing a lot more of senator marco rubio and his platform of big budget cuts in the face of a one point five trillion dollar deficit as well as a continued strong presence for america abroad feeling ford artsy washington d.c. so as she mentioned the g.o.p. is trying to lure latino voters to marco rubio so earlier i had to ask community

organizer ron go chaz if marco rubio could appeal to latino voters he has won here's his response i think you can appeal for a very small group in miami florida but to the masses of the community in the united states absolutely not the guy really needs think a history class and it's a no the realities of our communities because he definitely does not speak for us but it's interesting you mention here in florida i have a feeling for latino if he won fifty seven percent of the latino vote in florida why do you think that this wouldn't apply looking more broadly at the country. but i think it's known that you know florida in miami in particular it's a small group of cuban americans who have a really reactionary political line that goes contrary to the rest of the country you have people who are extremely republican who of course have you know sabotage and even pretty much it on their own people under the bus in cuba in order to you know have some kind of political power in miami and i think that the majority of

people in the united states simply want to stand for that not only because of issues of immigration you know but the majority look in the communities against the war you know there's issues of the economy things that he simply stands completely against our own community and i think that it really speaks to the nature of the system and the profound profound crisis that it's in when the system itself has to use either black or latino people to speak for them to really rescue it and selves from the crisis that we know is only getting deeper every every day so it's something that we know he has for us and it's something that you know he will not get the support of the masses of the latino community because he has the support of people like the tea party who are obviously completely against our interest so you're saying that that the key crisis in a key interest here is dealing with immigration because one thing that in his ad that actually karl rove is behind bush strategists is appealing to obama's failure to address unemployment for example. yeah i mean you know this is definitely not something that i'm trying to say that i've been a community advocate for president obama absolutely not he's failed as just as much

as the republican party has but you know if you ask me about being are going to vote for this guy who was somebody because of his name i'm going to tell you that absolutely not because we know that his name may be spanish he might speak spanish but he really speaks for white power and it's a system that's it's a racist system that has historically you know profited off our backs and he's trying to erase history saying that you know whether we came you know slave ships or whether we were here because of other reasons and use money race history and i would say that we're all american and we know that that's not true and the conditions that our community faces in the attacks that we're facing from the police when immigration when are these different laws are simply put is in a very different situation so he enjoys his own privilege as a cuban american in miami but at the national level he is not respected or even i would say recognized by the majority of that you know community and so they don't identify with the way it was explained to me was that the perception is that when a cuban comes to this country they're on a path to citizenship when mexicans come to this country they're on a path to deportation is that the first option in the latino community. that is

a perception i don't think is antagonisms against brother and sisters because of that we know it's not necessarily their fault it's the government system it's the law it's the immigration laws they really pit us against each other so this is not against the cuban americans this is against a small group people in miami who are dictating politics based on this extremely reactionary policy against cuba you know these people are most of the people in our community college which means that they're not even part of our community this is some that stands totally against those they support everything bush is doing they support all the imperialist wars they don't support immigration reform they are completely couldn't be any more different than the majority of the latino community . and that is the gospel from community organizer ron go chaz from our los angeles studio now we leave you with this just when you thought glenn beck's star had fallen after his departure from fox which happened after his ratings dipped and advertisers began boycotting on his account take

a look at this one day your children and your grandchildren will come to you then ask you can't you do what you do when the only one fire there is he's taken his gospel to israel this was a rally he held in jerusalem it was called restoring courage but it seemed to restore glenn beck's contention on many accounts a lot of israel really press is reporting that they glenn beck inspired a surprise alliance between religious leaders and political leaders in israel across the spectrum who were against him and against him doing this nonetheless he did draw a crowd seven hundred people there fourteen hundred people watching from home all over some even having viewing parties so you can.