well it is half past nine in the russian capital let's take a look at some of our top stories this hour. failure after launch emergency crews are searching for the on man the russian space freighter which crashed wednesday instant bierria and the soyuz rocket was spearing good and fuel to the international space station when it ends up falling back to earth. and rebels in libya promise a bounty of truth million dollars for colonel gadhafi dead or alive that's us and western nations wastes no time in jostling for a slice of the country's oil high under the new government. and the u.s.

and the e.u. are pushing for more sanctions against syria after the crackdown there against protesters meanwhile journalists on the ground are saying that there is a lack of objective coverage coming out of the country. well next it is the art of defiance as we put an artist who has become a legend in his own lifetime into the spotlight. we've got. the biggest issues get the human voice face to face with the news makers .

oh you know welcome to the spotlight and i'm out there in our one today will talk about art. called one of those rarely born artists who become a legend in their own lives his paintings can be found in museums around the world his sculptures become landmarks and such as the london new york san francisco venus and of course moscow and st petersburg is also a producer a filmmaker and what not but i guess the spotlight today is. to make him is a legend to risk all to artist in pain so he's explosive he really has led him to become one of the most acclaimed contemporary russian artists worldwide was born in moscow she was expelled from the art schools are failing to conform to socialist

realist and she was expelled from our school for failing to conform to socialist realist norms. worked with a maintenance crew to hermitage museum and later she was subjected to compulsory treatment at the mental institution which was the standard way of dealing with ideological dissidents at the time in. the worst out of the us aside by the soviet authorities she settled and. then moved to new york in one thousand eight hundred nine the return of my kids were to russia begin with the first exhibition there since he went into exile he lead it continue to show his work in russia and has installed the monuments in st peter's work to peter the great to be himself political repressions and to the architects and builders of st petersburg to the painting segues a bit into national museums he's cultures and all squares in venice and francisco new york in laws. is our guest on spotlight today.

mr chirac even thanks for coming to our program and the ignition let's walk down memory lane a bit as we all know that you were expelled from the soviet union the nineteen someone. else already stripped you all the citizenship so. what was your fishel reason for exposing your from the country. since i was not one of the chosen people my expulsion was quite a complicated one. i was arrested and then taken to the kind of state security for a so-called chance. explained to me that i had three options. first option which if it was to go into a man to asylum where i spent half a year will go to service the clinic no it was the cost of clinic us which was an experimental clinic actually one of the most horrible wants as it was under the jurisdiction of the state security services. they tested new psychotropic

medication on us. did help. my mom hadn't gotten out on bail as disabled i think i would have spent three years that she was told that she should be expecting her son back no sooner than three years later and he says he would actually i would have the honor of talking to you today to see it usually people left that place in a state of deadheads to go straight into the hospital for people with chronic diseases. was the third through what did you feel when you took those medications you know if you're well it's not that we actually took them it was different all the time and i was in an almost twilight state when they said there is experiments for example they would could have phones on my head and shout out the names of western artists which was gross mistakes. you mean instead of picasso for example but they would say over the course of. my sense of humor help me i mean conscious shelley. so they would shout the names together with things like modeling your

father led by your bride flashes of like their origin i was seated in front of a huge color screen with some stripes moving on it will in different ways it could go on there could be complete darkness and then suddenly the screen would burst with right if such were some of the experiments it sounds like a clockwork orange to me don't you think there's something like that yes i mean that's why when i go to france my friends advised me not to watch that movie because they knew my story so when i did watch it i found many similarities of course. so basically they want to just treat you over your personality and your intellect. you see they try to catch us i mean the young people want to help us stick to the truth they first tried to crush us in certain organizations and read us. with their lives is not the evolution of it but them when they saw that you didn't give in there was a psychiatrist who would give a cue if you get out of the well how do you know what the cage should be considered

as a folding your devotion to western principles and or your denial of socialist trailers or something else you weren't a dissident that's such right you have to go now but i have always protested against being called a dissident you don't say no no it wasn't like that we did i don't like it when someone says that she is a dissident as we were dissenting and i was actually involved in very simple things like studying russian icons but it was considered as interest and mr says there was also in the group there was a book old matches gruen about it written by an author from the german democratic republic at those it was a very distressing fascination i don't know if you know anything about the books. it's a lot about conservation using a very expressive catechism etc the main crime was my interest in reading while van gogh says on sicily it was considered a crime yeah even if you were interested in impressionist because they praise the buddha why do you and moreover he really want to. make it

a pain to the naked and gay people so when you were expelled from the soviet union nine hundred seventy one. before we start talking about organ words that have to the socialists really was something that you basically denied as you were to sanction in the soviet union which is now becoming very trying to special in the west words fashionable we should be in moscow and actual in russia people like that kind of war and that's. what's your attitude towards that doesn't make you said i was there. you see i have never been opposed to socialist realism. on the contrary when perestroika began peace more knowing the russian nature i was one of the first to write a letter to the ministry of culture warning them against bringing down the monuments that out of whole russia and suggested preserving the ones that are made by some

real art lost as. like it was her ability. as works of art. some of you know that people started to smash down stalin monuments nightshift and monuments of different political leaders like visions keiki. the more a difference but those were done by some real. i actually seriously defend the school of socialist realism. because i had teachers like you great which is you can amazing illustrator using straight collaborating on do the truman relaunch exam with him. she was you know she was an amazing theatrical monster i did know much that i have always admired. was given so i think what happened back then was a big mistake. because russia is known for its extreme decisions in much of which and take it or you could let you solve its union collapsed tragically what happened

too quickly. and immediately though everything that it was connected with it was it was declared very bad. well on the other hand it's well deserved when it's our eastern russia collapsed people also destroyed all the panto you can see the story . yeah sure that's what they call judge you know it's in the old world. that's why i suggested not to denounce it so quickly because those sculptures were true masters of the school of socialist realism. if i'm going to side special order things which are clearly troubled and. this school of socialist realism world even if the world doesn't you know about it yet. greet a number of your truly great. britain russia has all the rise to be proud of that and they are for a deal if the parody on that school like your example of the unlimited is a lot of unsought of babies go for instance in the distorted linnean hugging mickey

mouse and thinking marilyn monroe kissing stalin. or an almost pornographic piece by comrades on limits of a naked stalin on the top of a naked land and most of those little girls there as well. it's a method to call for what was going on. on the one hand it might be needed but it really has nothing to do with the serious school of socialist realism. in your story with you three dollars there's turner's money he has already be comically share came to america with fifty bucks in his pocket i didn't go to america i went to france to france yes fifty dollars in your pocket when you got to france which was somewhat hundred fifty francs at the time right where there's it wasn't hard to find your place give you have to find any shame on the local already seen the artistic establishment yes bullish did you feel like no one needs you over there. i

think it was a difficult line in the sense. that but almost in nineteen seventy want a large personal i was a vision of mine it was held by dean in bed and his gallery and in a very nice a well known gallery oh my you're my old school music who because she was his muse gave cleaned up his entire property. to some litigation but she laid her hands on all his house his duty is you can do everything he had ever created in his lifetime . something the ladies anything. but poor kirk without number as he hails from a data of our own stalk is using right on the beach really. well because she was in love with me and my work. and i came to france she saw me and gave me as a gift a small shuttle and from here i she just did me. three days later shipping to the chateau with a contract for ten years he would have given the way i was an absolute good as they

say in russia today one of those there is no market. i was wise enough to see she was out to milk now. under its terms i was supposed to do as i was told it yet because i had to give up my quest in the area of metaphysical synthesis i was only allowed to do gallons things and still lives because they were sold better than anything else so on and so forth. do you mean you can we should refuse to sign your contract. because also. rich if you know i gave up the chateau de and i returned the key and three days later after reading the contract i said mails wishes to my dear girls in my hundreds creature my sweet roly-poly i'm giving you back the key. with glue and dreams of us travelling in india me seeing the world i'm not from here. i want to exchange a plane cage for a gilded one of the lot he left for the great wide world to the screens about here

crawling back in three days on my knees. for him she was yelling i was a soviet but he not in the west. i would soon learn what it was like. but i said to her proudly it's precisely because i'm a soviet man and our pride is a special one that i won't come back to you either on my knees or otherwise you cross the top of your. spotlight will be back shortly after break so stay with their.

more news today boylan says once again flared up. and these are the images go girl he's been seeing from the streets of canada. trying to look for asians are relieved a. mum. welcome back to spotlight i am just a reminder that day we're talking about all right and my guest on the show is.

what we see shows that you said you had come to france with two hundred something francs in your pocket you and your each competitor i'm a crazy at it you wish you'd told over your contract for ten years but here you're gone old and you went through to the altar darker so with what was left of your friends is that yes the states are you sure you didn't make it always cool or was it because of something green in your ability russian nature of five years i had handled some of those tree and yes and that's a jobs summit year old girls that i was a menial work hematological and that implied that she did the dirty testament hardest job sort of brought it up with a look at us quip i was a hand in the city scrapyard surreal image with a pair of rubber boots on and a pitchfork in my hands is that i had to move restaurant and soviet eating house and waste. so what i was handing those heavy speedo to was the first of may but

it's because the first of my parents were held in the palace where my lai and eleven guys were in charge of the palace square of what they do with it so it was absolutely out of the question and that i'd be scared of hard physical work it was more the world the most important thing for me was my freedom to go to them and when the only encroached upon the holy of holies my creative freedom which was my conscious choice and it's more after all it's i could have joined the artists union or i could have made good money as a black and white artist i fear them but look if you're really feel that you start your first encounter with non freedom in the sheeple the contrary if you really feel that you warn the free world after all of that the west didn't really boast their freedom which in this song. yes of course absolute freedom how come i wasn't seeing portraits of lenin on each corner no instead i rode everywhere and you know still beyond that humor is as lenin so that's one thing for another and you fairly well better conditions where i live but just

a pool and there was no heating or the windows were smashed and hammered some plywood on and painted the walls as good as i managed. there was no kitchen table nor generally anything to look for there was an abandoned snoopy closet near where i began my new life and i was happy i was happy for one simple reason because i knew that no one would invade my friends as without even a search warrant you had made no one in your drama should my boobs joeys easels and letters at six in the morning and you knew that i wouldn't be taken for questioning in advance of the word up read on it as it happened in the past i mean and most importantly i wouldn't be confined to a mad house where they'd injected me with god knows what that will ensure i was wallowing in happiness. and where money or poverty was concerned i wasn't frightened at all so i didn't count the clock stars from the scotch of those i didn't think i was a genius three of you believe you're one now it's a scary because you said i didn't. know i'm describing the frame of mind i was in

shock now i'm coming. and i found the other way. i don't want to. know would i make a new shows about. and just marking time big problem with some great guys because at that time we were all nonconformists and had the same status regardless of how good. a stick skills work was which when we began making it to the west really became clear that song we're not quite painters others are not so good sculptors and it's natural differences. is for me like a knowing full well that if i had to take or no joke i take it without. thinking twice i even have an article entitled. in all. kinds. of well known famous worldwide famous starters by the way one of his latest projects is a full length kirk soon based on hoffman's fairy tales spotlights even

a demeter has all the details. the fantasy world of hoffman is coming alive in the russian katun the idea is mikhail shenanigans the famous artist has been cherishing need since mind in six days the stream has turned into the biggest project that they're washing see is an old films to you that's worked on since the collapse of the soviet union no computer animation no special effects are used on the stock motion this unique atmosphere created in had to first make sketches for the one hundred fifty characters in the seventy eight minute. inspiration of hoffman's world his want to be trusted the russian audience has never denied the german writers in france common himself as the main character in the new cartoon during his lifetime he found refuge in late for work likewise the animated hoffman is travelling in the mystical world of his own tales new to me which is produced in

his own imagination just this particular theory t. o. for children has also become in the throes of a coup drama sounded around the risky business from real life. you've been working for some time now on this florence film the book there's theodore in the dalles home on the fairy tale right many any as you call it yet and you promised it would hit the screens in two thousand and nine we didn't see it any time soon. we deal the problem as usual in its name i am disappointed making you piece by piece ten or fifteen minutes of film to go to bed and then wait for this answers should i wait for the government to shell out it was not mostly the entire project has been stalled for several years because the russian government connects the money to sponsor the project or which it appears are truly that expanse or what is a ballpark figure that goes into fooling thirteen just peanuts i don't even say how much it was really never let me know but i know the conditions we've been working

in the cold cost so little why dontcha invest some of your and money don't you staff that it weights way which usually i have nothing but that's. got to be quite happy if what i have in my pockets. because it's used teaching the not character in the marines key theatre. not only that stage five dollies also again yes. why do you like the storming off of so much well. let me explain the song of a very jealous woman and company a possibly even a half a set and what a felony hollywood might actress mother and when he fell in love with her reveals he was hand in marriage on the condition that she'd follow him to the battlefield. and thus put two and a half years my mother served with my father's cavalry division it was during the

war but in a way you're in the war. but the girl when your humble servant was conceived to the rule of cannons issue in the time came for my mother to give birth i was sent to most. you know what i was born. to my birth mother again went to join father taking me along follow the division with the baggage train and thus reached very today's a clinic where i grew up. at the. beginning where my father was the military commander i will go to bed after koenig's back became kaliningrad and the germans were removed my father was sand for the service to saxony. was grown up in germany tonight and fifty eight mama my mother well educated person was fond of the german romantic soul and. that was the joan dramatics writings localized hoffmann their favorite tales influence in my mind. and know what it is not they were brothers they were actually the green brothers

two they're not quite in the romantic category well favorite tales are cruel. and there is little romanticism and them and much fantasy that. you handle many productions including its very theatrical designer. based on the political scores the schools what is your attitude to more than music you seem to be a man who'd rather use something composed in our day. or would you prefer. more than music there's a stylus to my voice was a key. they're doing you know you're not quite tried their way because my second marrying skill of only the magic cannot continue as an elaborate as if it were not correct. it is it's stacked at the why and not cracka the not correct or there were a field of several choreographers that attempted to fit it into tchaikovsky score

though but most of it was unbearably to think a staff that was illegible in egypt all this is good a story of the princess spittle a part of the story of the magical not a cracker to what. yes i decided to make a new scenario and i wrote a new libretto was eat what i asked a friend who in my youth is in a very good we have a hard composer as you thought of it all in the positive sense of the word sergei's the names on it is that more as a core try to score to my libretto for his dolly but the more we included an alto existence sometime magical sounds and you must remove the what do you mean it's an airman gordon using the i simply didn't know it if you're really ever on guard. against wineskin was like me forced on us security for not writing all the right way. because it was until now when you were so made an appearance in a mosque i mean those with children just people started saying that should not east preaching is supposed to give people education. here really don't live in this.

with or are you more so what are you for all the art for art's sake approaches. go to that's cousin no growth he wants both style hitler and red does the us they would not have been such tyrants some good if any of. the truth is it's a nice phrase and an interesting one. i believe you sometimes say that god cannot change mankind i give it in change some individual people think is me more involved and interested. but cannot position self is a sort of messiah at that and i don't think of myself as a missionary janish. i think that we do things that are required by the present when ya society we live in or my society or yourself is it business was three and you and i cannot believe in the tot but you know there were times when i painted at night and worked as

a menial work enjoying the day time where you and your bulldozer clearing snow you could if you knew for sure that my paintings would not be exhibited i would not make any money and i could not and still cannot live without it as a real artist. thank you thank you very much and just a reminder that. the world renown artist was a guest on this show today and that's it for now from all of us here if you want to have your sense pod lights or you have some of the minds who you think i can interview tomorrow has dropped me a left that's it for now we'll be back tomorrow with more first time comments on what's going on in and outside russia and so then they and i take. twenty years ago these are just trying. to sort through to research.

on how did you try. to teach be gender jury and. where did it take them.