this raises. what i've been trying. to began a journey. where did it take. now a fact that the pm here in the russian capital with r.t. headlines now so it's a recovery operation is underway in siberia for an unmanned resupply craft that never reached the international space station the russian space agency faces a major overhaul now after the progress vehicle broke into pieces just five minutes after launch on wednesday. italy is said to transfer millions of dollars of frozen libyan assets to the rebel government even as russia argues the new leadership and yet to prove its legitimacy. western states call for tougher

sanctions against the syrian regime but journalists on the ground say m it's a footage used as evidence of the government crackdown it's hard to verify. and superstar striker samuel eto'o has arrived in russia to join the north caucasus club. the cameroonian has agreed to a reported salary of ten million euros per season to become easily the highest paid player in russia. those are the headlines here in our next they want to stay with us the art of defiance as you put an artist who's become a legend in his own lifetime into the spotlight.

oh. and i'm going to. talk about art. i was. called one of those early born artists who become a legend in their own lives his paintings can be found in museums around the world his sculptures landmarks and such as the london new york san francisco venus and of course moscow and st petersburg is also a producer a filmmaker. my guest today is. making is a legend to risk all to artist in painter his explosive career has led him to become one of the most acclaimed contemporary russian artists worldwide was born in moscow she was expelled from the art school feeling to. she was expelled from school for failing to conform to socialist realist norms for five years working

with the maintenance crew at the hermitage museum she was subjected to compulsory treatment. which was the standard way of dealing with ideological dissidents at the time. she settled in france and. the return of work to russia began with the first exhibition there since he went into exile continue to shoot she's worked in russia. political repression and to. the architects and builders of st petersburg to be should make its paintings that exhibit international museums the peace cultures and all squares in venice in francisco new york in-laws mikail is our guest on spotlight today. this is essentially mr chirac in thanks for coming to our program michel let's walk down

memory lane a bit as we all know that you were expelled from the soviet union in one thousand someone you want i was initially also restrict you all the citizenship. what was the office full explanation of what was the office or reason for expelling your from the country my view is that it was cool for you but in your rule since i was not one of the chosen people my expulsion was quite a complicated one if your water. i was arrested and then taken to the kind of state security for a so-called chance. explained to me that i had to do three options. first option if it was to go to a man to asylum where i spent half a year old or the subsequent you know it was the onset of clinical was which was an experimental clinical actually one of the most horrible ones it is it was under the jurisdiction of the state security services. they test a new psychotropic medication on us. did help more us live with my mom hadn't

gotten out on bail as disabled i think i would have spent three years there she was told that she should be expecting her son back no sooner than three years later and he says he would actually i wouldn't have the honor of talking to you today and you see it as usually people left the place in a state of their heads she goes straight into the hospital for people with chronic diseases. was neither true would you feel when you took those medications you know if you're well it's not that we actually took them it was different all the time and i was in an almost twilight state when they said there is a spirit for example they would could have films on my head and shout out the names of western artists which withdraws mistakes. instead of picasso for example they would say to go because of. my sense of humor help me i remain conscious surely. so they would shine the names together with things like mother many of the land followed by a bride lashes of like i was seated in front of

a huge color screen with some stripes moving on it in different ways of number there could be complete darkness get a cookie and then suddenly the screen would burst with right such was some of the experiments it sounds like a clockwork orange to me don't you think there's something like that yes and that's why when i go to france my friends advised me not to watch that new eat because they knew my story though when i did watch it i found many similarities in a lot of them. so basically if they want to just repeat over your personality and your intellect there. you see they try to catch us on in the young people and to help us stick to the truth cough they first try to crush us in certain of my eyes asians and read us fully but that is not the evolution of it but them when they saw that you didn't give them a psychiatrist would give a cue if. the kid should be considered as a fully your devotion to western principles and or your general socialist trailers

or something else and then you will if you weren't a dissident that's such right yes i don't know but i have always protested against being called a dissident you don't say no no it wasn't like that with it i don't like it when someone says that should not and is a dissident dissenting i was actually involved in very simple things like studying russian icons but it was considered as an interest in mysticism over there was also going to grew out there was a book called matches gruen about it written by an author from the german democratic republic at those it was a very distressing fascination i don't know if you know anything about the books that stay a minute she writes a lot about crucifixion to me using a very expressive catechism etc the main crime was my interest in reading than dog says on this like there's a window it was considered a crime yeah even if you were interested in impressionist because they praise the ideology moreover i really want to run or switchers naked a painting of naked and gay people so when you were expelled from the soviet union

nine hundred seventy one. before we start talking about organ the more depth of the socialist liberalism that you basically denied as you were you sanction in the soviet union which is now becoming very trying to special in the west or it's fashionable in moscow it's kind of factual in russia people like that kind of warred that sometimes do you. what's your attitude towards that doesn't make you said i was there. you see i have never been opposed to socialist realism. on the contrary when perestroika began more knowing the russian nature i was one of the first all to write a letter to the ministry of culture warning them against bringing down the monuments all over russia and suggest preserving the ones that were made by some real hot hostas. like any. ability. as works of art.

some of you know that people started to smash down stalin monuments and monuments of a different political leaders like incisions skittish. that were a difference but those were done by some real lot in austin this i actually seriously defend the school of socialist realism. because i had teachers like great which is even amazing illustrator it was instructions callao bring on. the tremendous along to come with him. my other teacher was you know she was an amazing theatrical master you know much that i have always admired from. war so i think what happened back then was a big mistake is that. russia is known for its extreme decisions in life which in take it or you could lead you saw huge union collapsed and it was tragically what happened too quickly. and immediately though everything that it was connected with

it was it was declared very bad. well on the other hand it's well deserved when it's our east russia collapsed people also destroyed all the current i can see story. yeah sure that's what they call just you know seeing the old world. that's why i suggested not to denounce it so quickly because those sculptures were true masters of the school socialist realism. if you're going to side special order things which are clearly propaganda. this school of socialist realism and the world even of the world doesn't know about it yet also today a great number of truly great. britain russia has all the rise to be proud of that and. all the parody on that school like the works of god of the limits of and sort of that he's covered for instance in the distorted linnean hogging mickey mouse and the good marilyn monroe kissing stalin. or an almost pornographic piece by comrade

limits of a naked stalin on the top of a naked blend in those little girls there as well. it's a mess to take off what was going on. on the one hand it might be needed but it really has nothing to do with the serious school of socialist realism so your story with a few thousand dollars or stern or money has already be comically share. it with fifty bucks and he's calling me i didn't go to america i went to france to france yes you're fifty dollars in your pocket when you go to france which was one hundred fifty francs at the time right where there's it wasn't hard to find your place give you have to find any shame on local already seen the artistic establishment yes you feel like no one needs you over there. i think it was a difficult one in the sense. that but almost imagine seventy want

a large personal i was a vision of mine was held by geneviève and his gallery and in a very nice a well known gallery going to my you're my old school music who because she was his muse are you going to play know his entire property. after some mitigation but she laid her hands on all his houses you can do everything he had ever created in his lifetime. something the ladies anything. but poor. liberation hails from and our own stork is using right in the region really. well because she was in love with me and my work. and i came to france she saw me and gave me as a gift a small shot or a term here. three days later shaking to the chateau with a contract for ten years the i would have given the why wasn't absolute good as they say in russia there is no market. i was wise enough to see she was out to milk

me. under its terms somehow supposed to do as i was told yet because i had to give up my quest in the area of metaphysical synthesis and i was only allowed to do gallon scenes and still lives because they were sold better than anything for them so on and so forth. do you mean you carry the ship refused to sign your contract. which if you know i gave up the chateau the day i returned the key three days later after reading the contract i said my oath which is now my dear girls in my hundred screecher my sweet roly-poly i'm giving you back the key. plenty of glue and dreams of us travelling in india nice seeing the world and not for me. i want exchange a plane or a gilded ones a lot. left for the great wide world cholas chremes about here crawling back in

three days on my knees. for him she was yelling i was a soviet p.r.t. in the west. and i would soon learn what it was like. but i said to her proudly it's precisely because i'm a soviet and our pride is a special one that i won't come back to you either on my knees or otherwise. top of you says. spotlight will be back shortly after a break stay with the. we'll . bring you the latest in science and technology from the realms.

of the future covered. welcome back to spotlight i am out of in just a reminder that today we're talking about all right and my guest on the show is should make. you sad for you to come to france with two hundred something francs in your pocket you and you're rich compared to original cresent if you wish it over your contract for twenty years but here's your clientele that and you were true to the answer darker so with what was left of your francs is that yes the

states are you sure you didn't make it always goes or was it because of something ingrained in your ability russian nature of quality health also five years i had handled some adults trini is a nasty jobs a somewhat year old girl in the club i was a menial work at lemme take them and that imply that she did the dirtiest and hardest jobs that i bought the other was only going to quit while i was a hand in the city scrap yard surreal image with a pair of rubber boots on and a pitchfork in my hands instead i had to move restaurant that. so that eating house waste. so what i was telling those have you speak to the first of may but it's because the first of my parents were held in the palace where my life and eleven guys were in charge of the palace square about what to do with it so it was absolutely out of the question that i would be scared of hard physical work it was more than the most important thing for me it was my freedom to go to the mall and when the only encroached on the holy of holies my creative freedom which was my conscious choice after all. i could have made good money as

a black and white artist i think but did you really feel you start your first encounter with non freedom in the sheeple that contrail if you really feel that you war in the free world after all of that away do you truly boast the freedom which the soviet union left yes of course absolute freedom i wasn't seeing portraits of landing on a. non-standard iraq everywhere you know still beyond that numerous as lenin so that's one thing for another and you fairly well that if the conditions where i lived were just a pool and there was no heating the windows were smashed and hammered some plywood on and painted the walls as good as i managed. there was no kitchen it will know generally anything. it was an abandoned snoopy closet near where i began my new life and i was happy i was happy for one simple reason because i knew that no one would invade my friends as without even a search warrant you had made no one your drama showed my boobs drawings easels and

letters at six in the morning and you knew that i wouldn't be taken for questioning the advancement of the word of brad on it as it happened in the past i mean the most important thing i wouldn't be confined to a mad house where they didn't get any with god knows what their bull's eye was well being and happiness because they were money or poverty was concerned i wasn't frightened at all so i didn't come to pluck stones from the scotch of those i didn't. as a genius three of those do you believe you're one ounce of pressure because you said i didn't. know i'm describing the frame of mind i was in shock that one coming . and i felt the other way. nor would i make new shows about. be just marking time a big problem with some great guys because at that time we were all nonconformists and had the same status regardless of how. sick skilled workers were when we began

making it to the west really became clear that some were not quite so good painters others are not so good sculptors and such are you quite a difference has cropped up as for me like a knowing full well that if i had to take or annoy joe take it without thinking twice i even have an article entitled should not in theory or hand it nor i keep it in my archives. of famous worldwide famous artists by the way one of his latest project is a full length career based on hoffman's fairy tales supposed to me that has all the details of the fantasy world of hofmann is coming alive a new version. idea is me. the famous artist has been cherishing it since mind in six days the stream has turned into the biggest project but there were films that's worked on since the collapse of the savage union no computer animation no special

effects are used on the stock notion this unique atmosphere created in had to first make sketches for the one hundred fifty characters in the seventy eight minute. vision of hoffman's world his want to be trusted the russian artist has never denied the chairman of greatest influence. hofmann himself is the main character in the new cartoon during his lifetime he found refuge in which. or why price the animated hoffman is traveling in the mystical world of his own tales and it in the future is produced in his own imagination plus this particular fairy tale for children is also becoming a philosophical drama center there on the shore of the skate business from real life. you've been working for some time now on this florence phone the book there's theodore in the details on the fairy tale writer and the how many eddies you call it yet you promised it would hit the screens in

two thousand and nine didn't receive any time soon. will only deal with the problem as usual with minimum gets it were making a piece by piece ten or fifteen minutes a film to go to bed and then wait for the sponsors all wait for the government to shell out it was not mostly if the entire project has been stalled for several years yet because the russian government makes the money to sponsor the project or would that if there's a true letter sponsor what is a ballpark figure that goes into fooling third soon just peanuts i don't even say how much it was really never let me know but i know the conditions we've been working in the gold coast so little why don't you invest some of your and money. that it already it's way which usually i have nothing but that's. got a month i'll be quite happy if what i have in my pockets and mashed my way. it's going to use teaching the not character in the marines the future and. not only that stage five bally's also again. why do you like these

strongmen author so much well. let me explain the son of a very jealous woman and company possibly even the how to set him and what a felony it would not actress mother was and when he fell in love with her reveals he was handling marriage on the condition that she'd follow him to the battlefield . for two and a half years my mother served with my father's cavalry division it was during the war but in the end you're in the war. and when your humble servant was conceived to the rule of callahan's that is when the time came for my mother to give birth i was sent to most. you know what i was born and. after my birth mother again went to join father taking me along and would follow the division with the baggage train and thus reach the county very today's a kaliningrad where i grew up. at the. beginning. my

father was the military commander of the walk a bit after konigsberg became kaliningrad and the germans were removed my father was sad for the service to saxony. he was growing up in germany tonight in fifty eight mama my mother well educated person was one of the german romantics. that was the joan dramatics writings lies tough on the theory tales. with edges not the green brothers they were actually green brothers too they're not quite in the romantic category well they retailed cruel. and there is little romanticism and them and much fantasy. you handle many productions including yours a theatrical designer. based on classical scores. what is your attitude more than music you seem to be

a man who'd rather use something composed in our day our age or would you prefer i study classical more than music there's a stylus to my voice. there doing you know you're not quite right there because my second marrying skill only the magic not his and elaborates as it were not correct. it is stacked it why it cannot cracka became the not correct but it was used of several choreographers that attempted to fit it into a tchaikovsky score though but most of it was unbearably to think a star for that was illegible in egypt all this is good a story of the princess spittal a part of the story of the magical not a cracker to what. i decided to make a new scenario and i wrote a new libretto was eve and i asked the friend who in my youth is in a very good we have a hard composer in the positive sense of the word sergei slim ski on the second try

to score to my libretto for his wallet but the more which included an alligator on existence sometime magical sounds and you must remove the water you mean it's an airman gordon using or simply didn't know if you're a airman or a believe. he was like me forced on us if you did for not writing all the right way thought. when you were made an appearance in moscow i mean those with children people started saying that she knocking the screeching already supposed to give people education. you really don't live in this. it's your are you more soup for you for all the art for art's sake approaches. go to that's no growth he wants. to read just a yes i would if they would not have been such tyrants. the truth is it's a prize for a senate interesting one. believe me some time say that it would change mankind

again they've been changed some individual people think is make them better more involved and interested. but cannot position self is a sort of messiah. and i don't think of myself as a missionary yeah. i think that we do things that are required by the presence of a male hasa society we live in. by society or yourself. i cannot believe in without heart but you know there were times when i painted at night and worked as a menial work ensuring that in time clearing snow you cut it you knew for sure that my paintings would not be exhibited and would not make any money and i could not and still cannot live without it is a real artist. thank you thank you very much and just a reminder that i can now world renown artist was my guest on this show and that's it for now from all of us here if you want to have your prose lights or if you have

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