tv [untitled] August 25, 2011 6:30pm-7:00pm EDT
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you know some leasure see a story and it seems so for lack of sleep you think you understand it and then he glimpse something else here see some other part of it and realize that everything is you don't know i'm sorry welcome to the big picture. put a picture of me when i was like nine years old because if you tell the truth. i confess and i am going to get a friend that i love brad and that. he was kind of yesterday. i'm very proud of the role that
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she played. all right it's time to show in style on tonight's program the last time i want to get your take on what's happening in libya even though the rebels seem closer to taking control in tripoli you can expect the next few weeks or months at least to be chaotic so we asked our viewers the u.s. is going to put boots on the ground that's going to produce or treason essentially to find out what you have to say. afghanistan or iraq and now libya back in march the secretary of defense rolled out committing american ground troops to libya the president said no way and this past week the pentagon followed up with
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a big and who we see a repeat of history where the u.s. would want to turn this into this we already know the u.s. sent cia operatives in march but the question is not if we want to send in absolute troops now but will we change our mind at a later date all these said of course as long as there's oil there kevin agreed he added yup it's america that's what we do paul tells us our troops will go to libya this is far from over jason on the other hand said we propped up the afghan and iraqi governments and still need to be there for security we don't seem to know what we're doing there are other countries that can assist them well yes and that may be true but remember the first three conference there is oil there this is america and most important this is far from over there is no way to be certain what will follow but this is a battle for libyan people to fight we'll to them not to put our boots on their
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land. and as always we appreciate your responses and here's our next topic for you we just spoke with our we're going to speak about the keystone pipeline and if approved it's going to run from alberta canada to the gulf environmental activists say that it would be game over for the planet obama allows this deal to go through but even if he says no i already have. their eyes on the tar sands so what do you think should the u.s. agree to let the keystone pipeline be built you can respond with on facebook twitter and you tube and you know as your responses just might make money. let's talk about the protect ip act and the bill that we've warned you about several times in the past legislation introduced by senator patrick leahy that would allow the government to crack down on websites that have ties and i mean any ties to websites that share or link to or associate themselves with a pirate site also gives the government the right to sue any website it shares card information and it even gives the copyright holder the right to file a lawsuit against the site so the government already made it clear that they are
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out to destroy any infringing web sites and as we've noted before they've overstepped their bounds way too many times they've even taken their anti-piracy efforts to other countries where u.s. regulations going to apply and they've stripped foreign web sites of their abilities so like i said way overstepping their bounds however there are still plenty of individuals who think that the protect ip act does need to exist so our latest example comes from an op ed in the washington post unsigned editorial list off the dangers of pirating material i'll ask you to read this piece for yourself let me just extract a few snippets to share for starters the writer a chance to compare pirated items to counterfeit goods saying consumers often find themselves saddled with shoddy goods and little or no recourse to get their money back really really are we actually expected to believe the people behind the protect ip act are pushing it to protect the consumer if they want to protect the consumer they would let the consumer choose what they wanted without any interference here's another thing that really gets my blood boiling they say that
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costs copyright holders billions of dollars each year and towards the ability of writers producers and songwriters to earn the world sees they heard you are so sure when somebody steals music or a movie online technically they are losing some money from what would be the transaction but their actual several. daddies out there showing at these media industries don't lose that much money in fact those who preview things on line end up going to the stores going to the movies and buying more fell some directors have even come out in favor of file sharing because let's face it any exposure is good exposure now in the last paragraph of this unsigned editorial and explained. pains to protect i as he is from the pirating websites there's still room to tweak provisions of the bill but there is a need for a legal tool that stops new media pirates clearly the people who wrote this editorial collectively but chose not to sign their names don't follow that program because we have already gone into detail about how the protect ip act simply rise
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the government with a legal means of broad censorship for the internet it's also an issue that we've discussed with mike masnick of tech and so the u.s. government continues to present itself as being very very supportive of openness and freedom on the internet and certainly freedom of speech being a big part of that and they continue to talk about you know supporting technologies and laws that encourage her speech and don't block or shut down or filter any kind of you know here is the same u.s. government going out there presenting somebody that can clearly be used and or abused to block speech or to provocative ration just because a particular industry doesn't like it and we so here we go again yet another article parroting the talking points of the a and b. on some more people understand it's a very what could happen if this bill in its current form does pass through congress i'll continue to explain why the protect ip act needs to die. now
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each day this week about fifty protesters have all come out to stand for the white house or their arms like many of them until they get arrested for causes united many environmental activists by the end of this year a deal could be approved to build a one thousand seven hundred mile long pipeline that would run from alberta canada through the midwest to the gulf the keystone x.l. pipeline as it's called will connect the tar sands of canada with oil refineries in texas and it's the second largest carbon reserve in the world following saudi arabia but according to nasa scientist james hansen it will be essentially game over for the planet if these tar sands are exploited by their oil deposits extracting oil from tar sands is not only an expensive endeavor it also produces more greenhouse gases and other oil sources do so these activists have been coming out hoping the president will stop the deal from being acted so good that actually happen and even if he does say no will china just say yes join me to discuss this
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is jane have her founder of firedoglake thanks so much for joining us tonight now i know that this is a personal story for you too because you were out in part of the white house this week you were in fact arrested tell me why this makes you why you're passionate enough about this to go out there and risk arrest where you know dan choi bill mckibben in iran the power should conference earlier this year called what do you do when the president's just not in t.v. and experiences protesting in front of the white house cheney himself at the white house gate and really helping don't ask don't tell to get repealed was a very powerful i think for bill and so when he was designing this action he really did mine so dan said that he would take part in it and volunteered me to and i was happy to do it and you know it was it's a very very important issue but more than anything else it's you know it's something that the president has the power on is either approve or disapprove he doesn't need congress to do it this is one of the things where. we really get to
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see does he need what he said on the campaign trail when he said after i'm elected the earth will begin to heal well let's talk about why this is such a big problem for so many environmentalists right when it comes to tar sands and trying to extract oil from there they are really says a lot of greenhouse gases being if i'm correct isn't the oil of a poor quality and it's supposed to be expensive if you have any idea how expensive just how many greenhouse gases and why is this actually game over as the hansen said well i think your concern is because it is the second biggest carbon reserve in the world next to saudi arabia and if we decide that we're going to we're going to do is go up there and start shopping now aside from the fact that you will basically be giving the oil companies the right to go through and you know lay tipline through the ranch is a conservative nebraskans who don't want to happen you'll be committing the planet to you know not going green and not trying to find alternative sources of energy
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but rather just joking the fires literally of greenhouse gases and bill and and jim hansen really you know there are just absolute invents that this is going to cause tremendous problems for the atmosphere but the other problem of course we run into there is so let's say that president obama decides that this deal shouldn't go through right this pipeline should need built china has already expressed interest in kavis tar sands something they can't of they is also ok with so i think that a lot of you are asking questions saying that well if we don't do it then china's going to are going to see the exact same amount of damage so can you even really put you know that much pressure on just obama himself until there is some kind of global agreements and global changes in terms of using tar sands well i absolutely believe that you have to put the pressure on everyone and there are demonstrations taking place up in canada as well you know we there americans were arrested. this
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week and after this is over then the canadians are going to be doing their protest up there and you know me kind of people so it isn't just happening in the united states but you know the one thing we know is that if the president does ok and then it happens you know you have to take it one step at a time and it's going to be very difficult for china to get the tar sands to china the plan is now to build a pipeline that goes to texas you know to houston and then ship it all down there for refinement and that's going to cause tremendous environmental damage that i. you know points across there for china shipping it from canada to. china is going to be extremely difficult to do so you know they can work for what they think they're trying to get their hands on it and it's ok as long as america isn't doing it and we're just. very difficult for china to do what they want to do the reason that they're talking about doing a pipeline down to houston is because the pipeline that was supposed to go across country to that west coast united states which would make it much more accessible
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to china is mired in lawsuits and other legal and other battles so you know china would basically not be able to type it would have to ship it and it's a lot more difficult to ship and refine than it would be to ship you know too complicated to the united states fortunately it seems like that's something that china is willing to do right and a lot of people are scared because they're just going around the world buying up resources buying up land a little real politic i guess you could call it and they don't care who they're making deals with or where it. might be and we have to just redouble our efforts in canada as well you know you have to fight it out front jane i also want to ask you more do you know exactly how many people have been arrested so far this week here in the protesting for the white house trying to get this not go through i don't know how many people were arrested today but i believe well over two hundred have now been arrested the last time that i heard about it there had been you know forty five sixty five people every day in front of the white house saying that they would do this what was your experience like in jail going to even think that you were
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going to have to set a cell or did you think that you could just pay a ticket i get out of there. well the traditional being that it's basically the equivalent of a parking ticket and it's issued by the park police and it's adjudicated in traffic court and traditionally what they do or have been doing for the past few years is issuing a municipal ticket and then you pay a hundred dollars and they let you go and the organizers actually negotiated for weeks with the park police over this who had agreed app until the time the demonstration started to do that they said this is what will happen this is what you can expect and of course we get there and they say you're going to be held for forty eight hours until monday when the courts are open and their their goal was really to keep bill mckibben and in jail i believe in and disrupt what was going on and they said affirmatively for a different officer said that they were trying to send a message to other people who might consider showing up and doing this and what you
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wound up with on monday i was actually released on saturday night because of overcrowding they didn't have enough spaces but on monday dan choi and two others were brought into traffic court in ankle chains and in handcuffs and in chains and they were you know on a charge that does not care a parking ticket basically that does not carry jail time so it was a real moment of overreach and i think r.j. ought to thank you so much for joining us tonight you know there are rumors that maybe the state department's going to make some statement by the end of this week and by friday tomorrow so of course we're going to keep looking at it thanks. thank you. all such a concert night somebody else went there the gays are now to blame for the earthquake this week along the east coast could have more of that and i'd still fight a war and gadhafi has a little crush on condi class and don't miss working on some parts that's the hard right caviar for me if i'm. into that only it was he making some deal with the to bring justice or.
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not i have every right to know what my government should do it want to know why i pay taxes. well i would characterize obama as a charismatic version of american exceptionalism. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for sleep you think you understand it and then he slips something else here's some other part of it and realized everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm sorry welcome to the big picture. says. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right.
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i satisfied still had a war that's not against a new york rabbi yehuda levin outspoken rabbi had a lot to say about this week's of five point eight earthquake the rocket is cuts just listen to who he blamed for it yes this is a direct connection earthquakes and homosexuality it was in haiti and he's here in new york and washington d.c. will it pass congress actual legislation ordinances in new york in new york city and state will they open especially on sunday early if they pass on social marital . are is this for real here he's actually going to blame agave marriage for causing an earthquake apparently people are actually that insane now it's important to know
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about rabbi levin is his connection to the anti-gay group national organization for marriage or no to the group is fighting it throughout the u.s. to protect marriage as being between only one man and one woman now the good rabbi attended a non news conference earlier this year in albury new york the state lawmakers were debating the marriage equality bill so he's an ally back group and he also spoke at the event and that's why we want to cover this story today you know it was a powerful force in g.o.p. politics these days on their web site today they had details about a family values bus tour in iowa and includes a picture of the top g.o.p. presidential candidates so this group is trying to pressure all of the g.o.p. candidates to sign a pledge to defend traditional marriage now so far michele bachmann rick santorum and mitt romney of agree to valenti also sign the pledge but he's already dropped out of the rates and since newt gingrich has been married three times we suggested maybe take a pass on that whole protecting traditional marriage thing but what i do find of palling is that the mainstream presidential candidates want to be associated with
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a group that's promoting bigotry and there's no other way to describe this group that spent millions of dollars trying to stop equality for everyone not sure if you remember but back in the spring of two thousand and nine not released a t.v. ad called gathering storm and this was a warning about gay marriage coming to america. there's a storm gathering the clouds are dark and the winds are strong in diablo three some who advocate for same sex marriage have taken the issue far beyond same sex couples do you want to bring the issue into my mind my freedom will be taken away. if you just love the dark stormy clouds at any moment you think that a gay person is going to fall for this guy to attack you in your morals now for the record those were paid actors and in fact all audition tapes released a few weeks later on life but claim copyright infringement so we're going to play nice and we're not going to show you those right now but not to be funny or die also made their own gathering storm bad with the help of celebrities. soon people
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will start falling out of the sky or hold onto our churches and onto our families a downpour of gay people threatening the way we live and this gay reign army won't stop they'll coming to us marching not marching like a dance dance abouts and it'll be choreographed. we've got it that's good stuff so let's bring this all back to new york rabbi you heard eleven and his ridiculous claim that the earthquake was caused by gay marriage he's just spouting crazy because he lost the new york gay marriage battle and in fact a poll of march of this year show that for the first time a majority of americans support gay marriage so the rabbi no and the g.o.p. candidates are on the wrong side of history so tonight we award rabbi levin our tool time award for his very stupid and bigoted earthquake comments.
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ok time for happy hour this evening and joining me tonight is our two producer jenny churchill and derek thompson senior editor at the atlantic guys. so we just keep finding out wonderful little tidbits of information as people stormed off his compound in tripoli we saw the one guy with his hat with his massive gold chain that he dug up but there was also something else that was up that he revealed of a love affair take a look. ok so we did a little bit creative editing they're going to admit but apparently they did find a scrapbook just full of pictures of congolese or to get up he's been known to say
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that he thinks he's a strong african woman because. this is a tidbit i did not want to find out about. gadhafi i here's what i want i don't know want to know anything about his personal life i want to say to capture him and i want to ask you just one question it's how do you spell your last name and that's it i want to go to the i.c.c. did they let me get it out and they found a passport i want him to tell us i want to be definitive i'd like to get over your privacy rights that's in fact and then well i personally think this is a plant i think someone put it there so that everyone would be distracted from what's really going on possibly to discredit him and make him look a little weird since he kind of wall you know step down and if they make him look what's so weird about love i think i'm used to having the weird not having a super app book of photos of another world leader i don't know i mean can you do you know the things that he says the things that he wears the plastic surgery because play a weird you go around you don't even throw connelly's or rice are you trying to convince anybody ok we're going on for one we're a guy with a possible you know love affair let's move on to another.
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i just want to let you know that. i think you're. beautiful and therefore we're a lot younger. and we. can. that's all. that's apparently just a video that jim carrey posted which i may be a joke it may not be a joke i hope it's a joke you know deserve the attention i mean it's got to be a joke right it's just it's too silly and stupid for you to be serious hearing though is apparently you know maybe power just crazy things to people as my replies are drawn this from our wonderful executive producer of there who loves to read gossip on the celebrity is that because he said that he's like a manic depressive it has a lot of you know issues when they broke up so who knows maybe preston there's this recording videos about his life or i'm a stone for real there is
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a seriously disturbing look in his eyes and it's either i'm about to laugh or i'm about to actually lose my mind and i can't decide what it is and i'm hoping it's i'm about to laugh but i just see him what's in it for him to put this video out joker not sure if it's easier still if they want him to i guess maybe he'll be on a c.r. and i'll raise it readies that he's got this is what celebrities do you release a video to get attention he didn't have anybody to make a sex tape with so he just made one hostile about sex with a much younger star. ok obviously we covered the protests the op bartsch protests here on this show that was also the protests for which. bart tried to shut down cell phone service or get shut down cell phone service i think is absolutely absurd ridiculous so that anonymous decided to hack bartz and now we're kind of playing dirty and they released some pictures of the anonymous spokes person and. i guess they're not the most professional pictures especially. you those are
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strategically cut off. years and more of bottoms are strategically cut off there was a penis there but it's being blurred out or cut off i don't know i mean that's kind of dirty right like sorry but nobody really likes bart right now because they shut down cell phone service because they're cops are too brutal and they've been responsible for murders but then do you need to do the crotch shots i mean for those under. that scenario as you are you know all about this i didn't want to show you how caring i know you had one side of you things i simply didn't want to. force discuss. i mean i think it is course you know. that's what we do around here. i think it's a little below the belt. but hates to say i mean none of us feels like what bart is doing is an infringement on their personal lives that cutting off your cell phone service is an infringement on their personal rights so they're going after the perpetrators personal lives well it's very ironic was the bart which is by the
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way in the bay area transit authority it was his idea the spokesperson said in another interview that was his idea to shut down cell phone service so maybe he does deserve a little bit of hate now as we watch you our last story here so obviously politics right and you know as hell politics words and politicians have to make certain statements or they know will please a certain crowd and one of those things always involves pledging your undying allegiance to israel and that's what democrats keep marshall did from the state of nevada she issued a statement of support for israel as violent fair escalates but what happened is when they issued this statement they absolutely left all these notes at the bottom and were just notes or people singing background israel has been in the news lately i would be even more in the news with glenn beck's rally to restore courage in jerusalem in a republican district will be useful to express support for israel to demonstrate some forest. as well as timely topic especially for people who are likely paying attention to backs of bad kids kind of by some really want to get caught say that i
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will say this in media communications one of the first which has been hard hitting home in terms of jobs one of the first jobs that people have lost are their copy editors and i think that every day we were reminded about the importance of copy editors and why they're important and they save us from incredible national embarrassments like this. i don't know i mean i think it's just so if you're that we all knew this but it's so great to see written down like hey guess what israel plays well go out and say i heart israel oh i'm back there it's also why i should write a democrat who's trying to get republican voters on their side so they're saying republicans like blood bank they like israel why not just wish them all together and for the perfect political statement are you guys thanks for joining me tonight that's a good night so thanks for joining and make sure you come back tomorrow mother jones means that they're in a column and i'll be on the show discussed how the feds are allowing u.s. citizens paid and interrogated by foreign countries in the high difficulty for the family a lot of show on face book kind of problem it's unclear if you missed any of the
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