tv [untitled] August 25, 2011 10:30pm-11:00pm EDT
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get up some lunch a story and it seems so sleep you think you understand it and then a glimpse something else here sees some other part of it and realize everything you saw you don't know i'm sorry welcome to the big picture. we just put a picture of me when i was like nine years old i like to tell the truth. i confess and i am a total get of friends that i love crap and hip hop is a lie for. he was kind of the just today.
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i'm very proud of the legend soon as he plays. all right it's time for show in style on tonight's program last time i want to get your take on what's happening in libya even though the rebels seem closer to taking control in tripoli you can expect the next few weeks or months at least to be chaotic so we asked our viewers the u.s. is going to put boots on the ground let's get a producer for treason essentially to find out what you have to say. i've been a stand on iraq and now libya back in march the secretary defense rolled out committing american ground troops to libya the president said no way and this past week the pentagon followed up with a big and oh what will we see
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a repeat of history where the u.s. would want to turn this into this we already know the u.s. sent cia operatives in march but the question is not if we want to send in absolute troops now but will it change our mind at a later date all these said of course as long as there's oil there haven't agreed he added it's america that's what we do paul told us our troops will go to libya this is far from over jason on the other hand said we propped up the afghan and iraqi governments and still need to be there for security we don't seem to know what we're doing there are other countries that can assist the most recent that may be true but remember the first three comments there is oil there this is america and most important this is far from over there is no way to be certain what will follow but this is a battle for libyan people to fight we owe it to them not to put our boots on their land. and as always we appreciate your responses and here's our next topic for you
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we just spoke with our we're going to speak about a keystone pipeline and if approved it's going to run from alberta canada to the gulf environmental activists say that it would be game over for the planet if obama allows this bill to go through but even if he says no china already has. their eyes on the tar sands so what do you think should the u.s. agree to let the keystone pipeline be built and respond with on facebook twitter and you tube and who knows your response just might make no money. i'll talk about the protect ip act and the bill that we've warned you about several times in the past legislation introduced by senator patrick leahy that would allow the government to crack down on websites that have ties and i mean any ties to work sites that share or link to or associate themselves with a pirate site also gives the government the right to sue any website shares pirated information and it even gives the copyright holder the right to file a lawsuit against that site so the government already made it clear that they are out to destroy any infringing websites and as we've noted before they've
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overstepped their bounds way too many times they've even taken their anti pirating efforts to other countries where u.s. regulations don't apply and they've stripped foreign websites of their abilities so like i said way overstepping their bounds however there are still plenty of individuals who think you protect ip act does need to exist so our latest example comes from an op ed in the washington post and unsigned editorial list off the dangers of pirating material well i ask you to read this piece for yourself let me just extract a few snippets to share for starters the writer attempts to compare pirated items to counterfeit goods saying consumers often find themselves saddled the shoddy goods a little or no recourse to get their money back really really are we actually expected to believe the people behind the protect ip act are pushing it to protect the consumer if they want to protect the consumer they would like a consumer to choose what they want it without any interference and here's another thing that really gets my blood boiling they say that costs copyright holders
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billions of dollars each year and the ability of writers producers and songwriters to earn the world sees they argue are so sure when somebody steals music or a movie online technically they are losing some money from what would be that transaction but their actual several. studies out there showing that these media industries don't lose that much money and fact those who preview things on line tend to end up going to the stores going to the movies and buy more hell some directors have even come out in favor of file sharing because let's face it any exposure is good exposure now in the last paragraph of this unsigned editorial that explains the protect ip act takes pains to protect peace in the pirating websites there's still room to tweak provisions of the bill but there is a need for a legal tool that stops your media pirates clearly the people who wrote this editorial collectively but chose not to sign their names don't follow that program because we've already gone into detail about how to protect ip act simply rise the
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government with a legal means of broad censorship for the internet it's also an issue that we discussed with mike masnick of tech church so the u.s. government presented so it was very very supportive of openness and freedom on the internet and certainly freedom of speech being a big part of but the lady will continue to talk about you know supporting technologies and laws that encourage her speech and don't block or shut down or filter any kind of person each when you hear is the same u.s. government going out there presenting somebody who can clearly be used and or used to rock speech or to walk innovation just because a particular industry doesn't like it and we so here we go again yet another article parroting the talking points of the a and b. a fonso more people understand it's a very what could happen if this bill in its current form does pass through congress i'll continue to explain why the project ip act needs to die. now
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each day this week about fifty protesters have all come out to standard part of the white house or their arms like many of them until they get arrested for causes united to this by the end of this year a deal could be approved to build a one thousand seven hundred mile long pipeline going from alberta canada through the midwest to the gulf the keystone x.l. pipeline as it's called will connect the tar sands of pad with oil refineries in texas and it's the second largest carbon reserve in the world following saudi arabia but according to nasa scientist james hansen it will be essentially game over for the planet if these tar sands are exploited for their oil deposits extracting oil from tar sands is not only an expensive endeavor it also produces more greenhouse gases and other oil sources do so these activists have been coming out hoping the president will stop the deal from being active so could that actually happen and even if he does say no will china just say yes to and we can discuss this is jane hamsher founder of firedoglake thanks so much for joining us
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tonight now i know that this is a personal story for you too because you were out in front of the white house this week and you were in fact arrested tell me why this makes you why you're passionate enough about this to go out there and risk arrest where you know dan choi bill mckibben in iran a panel at the power should conference earlier this year called what do you do when a president's just not into you and dan's experiences protesting in front of the white house cheney himself at the white house gate and really helping don't ask don't tell to get repealed was a very powerful i think for bill and so when he was designing this action he really kind of mine so dan said that he would take part in it and volunteered me to and i was happy to do it and you know it was it's a very very important issue but more than anything else it's you know it's something that the president has the power on is to either approve or disapprove he doesn't need congress to do it this is one of the things where. we really get to see does he mean what he stand on the campaign trail when he said after i'm elected
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the earth will begin to heal well let's talk about why this is a big problem for so many environmentalists right when it comes to tar sands and trying to extract oil from there they ever leases a lot of greenhouse gases he if i'm correct isn't the oil of a poor quality and it's supposed to be expensive but you have any idea how expensive just how many greenhouse gases and why is this actually gave over and jim hansen said well i think their concern is because it is the second biggest carbon reserve in the world next to saudi arabia and if we decide that we're going to do is go up there and start tapping that side from the fact that you will basically be giving the oil companies the right to go through and you know play pipeline through the the ranch as a conservative nebraskans who don't want to happen you'll be committing the planet to you know not going green and not trying to find alternative sources of energy
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but rather just stoking the fires literally of greenhouse gases and bill and and jim hansen really you know are just absolutely convinced that this is going to cause tremendous problems for the atmosphere but the other problem of course we ran through there is so let's say that president obama decides that this deal shouldn't go through right at this pipeline should be built china has already expressed interest in kavis tar sand something that can of a is also ok with so i think that a lot of people are asking questions saying that well if we don't do it then china's going to do and you're going to see the exact same amount of damage so can you even really put you know that much pressure on just obama himself until there is some kind of global agreement some global change in terms of using tar sands. i absolutely believe that you have to put the pressure on everyone and there are demonstrations taking place act in canada as well you know we there americans were arrested. this weekend after this is over then the comedians are going to be doing
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their protest at their new i mean kind of people so it isn't just happening in the united states but you know the one thing we know is that if the president does ok and then it happens you know you have to take it one step at a time i mean it's going to be very difficult for china to get the tar sands to china the plan is now to build a pipeline that goes to texas you know to houston and then ship it all down there for refinement and that's going to cause tremendous environmental damage that you know at all. points across there but china shipping it from canada to you know to to china is going to be extremely difficult to do so you know make them work for what you think of trying to get their hands on it then it's ok as long as america isn't doing it and we're just. very difficult for china to do what they want to do the reason that they're talking about doing a pipeline down to houston is because the pipeline that was supposed to go across country to that west coast united states which would make it much more accessible
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to china is mired in lawsuits and other legal and i don't know the battles so china will basically not be able to type it would have to ship it and it's a lot more difficult to ship and refine than it would be to ship you know too complicated to the united states yeah unfortunately it seems like that's something that china is willing to do right and a lot of people are scared because they're just going around the world buying up resources buying up land a little real politic i guess you could call it and they don't care who they're making deals with or where. i can we have to just redouble our efforts in canada as well you know you have to fight it at every front ok i also want to ask you more do you know exactly how many people have been arrested so far this week here in the u.s. protesting from the white house trying to get this not go through i don't know how many people were arrested today but i believe well over two hundred have now been arrested the last time that i heard about it there had been you know forty five sixty five people every day in front of the white house saying that they would do this what was your experience like in jail me to even think that you were going to
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have to sell or did you think that you could just pay a ticket and then get out of there. well the traditional thing that they it's basically the equivalent of a parking ticket and it's issued by the park police and it's adjudicated in traffic court and traditionally what they do or how they're doing for the past few years is issuing a municipal ticket and then you pay a hundred dollars and they let you go and the organizers actually negotiated for weeks with the park police over this who had agreed at until the time the demonstration started to do that they said this is what will happen this is what you can expect and of course we get there and they say you're going to be held for forty eight hours until monday when the courts are open and their their goal was really to keep bill mckibben and in jail i believe in and disrupt what was going on and they said affirmatively for different opposite or said that they were trying to send a message to other people who might consider showing up and doing this and what you wound up with on monday i was actually released on saturday night because of
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overcrowding they didn't have enough spaces but on monday dan choi and two outers were brought in to track a court in ankle chains and in handcuffs and in chains and they were you know on a charge that does not care a parking ticket basically that does not carry jail time so it was a real moment of overreach i think r.j. i thank you so much for joining us tonight you know there are rumors that maybe the state department's going to make some statement by the end of this week and by friday tomorrow so of course we're going to keep looking at it thanks. thank you. all so the cons and i somebody who went there the gays are now to blame for the earthquake this week along the east coast we have more on that fight still fight a war and gadhafi has a little crush on condi classic don't mess with are not a part spokesman for the hard left happy hours and efforts to. ensure that only the military mechanisms to deal with the to bring justice accountability. i have every right to know what my government should do if you
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want to know why i pay taxes. but i would characterize obama as a charismatic. public merican exceptionalism. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so silly you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and hear see some other part of it and realize that everything is ok if you don't i'm sorry welcome to the big picture. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right here.
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to set aside schools have a war that's not against a new york rabbi yehuda levin and the outspoken rabbi had a lot to say about this week's a five point eight earthquake that rocked the east coast this is listen to who he blamed for it yes this is a direct connection earthquakes and homosexuality it was in haiti and he's here in new york and washington d.c. really has homosexual legislation and ordinances and new york in new york city and state when they opened especially on sunday early if they passed laws actual marriage work. are is this for real here he's actually going to blame gave marriage for causing an earthquake apparently people are actually that's insane now it's important to know about rabbi levitt is his connection to the anti-gay group
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national organization for marriage or not the group is fighting it throughout the u.s. to protect marriage as being between only one man and one moment now the good rabbi attended and on news conference earlier this year in albania new york the state lawmakers were debating the marriage equality bill so he's an ally back group and he also spoke at the event and that's why we want to cover this story today see gnome is a powerful force in g.o.p. politics these days on their web site today they have details about a family values bus tour in iowa that includes a picture of the top g.o.p. presidential candidates so this group is trying to pressure all of the g.o.p. candidates to sign a pledge to defend her additional marriage now so far michele bachmann rick santorum and mitt romney have agreed to it all and he also signed the pledge but he's already dropped out of the rates and since that new gingrich is a very three times we think just the maybe take a pass on that whole protecting traditional marriage thing but what i do find of palling is the mainstream presidential candidates want to be associated with
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a group that's promoting bigotry and there's no other way to describe this group that spent millions of dollars trying to stop equality for everyone not sure if you remember but back in the spring of two thousand and nine non-release a t.v. ad called gathering storm and this was a warning about gay marriage coming to america. there's a storm gathering the clouds are dark and the winds are strong and i have some gratitude for same sex marriage has taken you far beyond same sex couples do you want to bring the issue into my life my freedom will be taken away. so you just love the dark stormy clouds at any moment you think a gay person is going to fall for this guy to attack you in your morals now for the record those were paid actors and in fact in all my audition tapes released a few weeks later on line claim copyright infringement so we're going to play nice and we're not going to show you those right now but now to be funny or die also made their own gathering storm ad with the help of celebrities. soon people will
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start falling out of the sky oh sure hold onto our churches and onto our families a downpour of gay people threatening the way we live and this again rain army won't stop they'll come and us marching not marching around like a dance the dance so that's and it'll be choreographed. you had read about good stuff so let's bring this all back to new york rabbi yehuda levon and his ridiculous claim that the earthquake was caused by gay marriage he's just spouting crazy because he was the new york gay marriage battle and in fact a poll in march of this year show that for the first time a majority of americans support gay marriage so the rabbi no and the g.o.p. candidates are on the wrong side of history so it's night we award it rabbi levin our tool time award for his very stupid and bigoted earthquake comment.
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ok time for happy hour this evening and joining me tonight is r.t. producer jenny churchill and tara thompson senior editor at the atlantic hi guys. so we just keep finding out wonderful little tidbits of information as people stormed off his compound in tripoli we saw the one guy with his hat with his massive gold chain that he dug up there was also something else that would stuck up that he revealed it of a love affair take a look. ok so we did a little creative editing they're going to admit but apparently they did find a scrapbook just full of pictures of of congolese right to get up he's been known to say that he thinks he's a strong african woman because. this is it's
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a good i did not want to find out about margaret i feel here's what i want i don't want to know anything about his personal life i want to to kasher and i want to ask you just one question it's how do you spell your last name and that's it i want to go to the i.c.c. exam to get it out and they found a passport i want to tell us i want to be different if i really gave you your privacy rights that's such an effect and then well i personally think this is a plant i think someone put it there so that everyone would be distracted from what's really going on possibly to discredit him and make him look a little weird since he kind of won't you know step down and if they make him look what's so weird about love i think i'm going to have a weird having a photograph book of photos of another world leader i don't know i mean you know the things that he says i think what he wears the plastic surgery i think is play a weird to go around you know to throw congolese or rice are you trying to convince anybody ok we're going on for one weird guy with a possible you know love affair let's move on to another.
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i just want to let you know that. i think you're. a little. before we're a lot younger i would marry you and we. can. that's apparently just a video that jim carrey posted which i may be a joke it may not be a joke i hope it's a joke and you know it is there to be a picture not just you know it just got to be a joke right it's just it's too silly and stupid for you to be serious kerry though is apparently you know maybe power does crazy things to people for driver's license on this from our wonderful executive producer of there who loves to read gossip on the celebrity is that he jenny mccarthy said that he's like a manic depressive it has a lot of you know issues when they broke up so who knows maybe he's depressed and there's this recording videos about his love for emma stone for real there's a seriously disturbing look in his eyes and it's either i'm about to laugh or i'm
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about to actually lose my mind and i can't decide what it is and i'm hoping it's i'm about to laugh but i just so are seeing what's in it for him to put this video out children not sure if they want to i guess maybe want him to see aren't i all right is it really is that he that this is what celebrities do you know he released a video you get attention he didn't have anybody to make a sex tape with so he just made one talk about sex with a much younger star. ok so obviously we covered the protests the part protests here on this show that was also the protest for which. bart tried to shut down cell phone service or did shut down cell phone service i think is absolutely absurd ridiculous but then i don't have a society bartz and kind of play dirty bigger leaves some pictures of the anonymous spokes person and. i guess they're not going to last you know of professional pictures especially at is you those are strategically cut off. your small
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yard bottoms are strategically cut off there was a penis there but it's being blurred out or cut off i don't know i mean that's that's kind of dirty right leg bar if you know but you know i like the part right now because they shut down cell phone service because they're cops are too brutal and they've been responsible for murders but then do you need to do the crotch shots. i mean if i was under did not want to marry as you are you know all about this i didn't. care you know the headlines are pretty things i simply didn't want to hear about thirty minutes ago and of course it discussed. i mean i think it intercourse you know. that's what we do around here. i think it's a little below the belt. but it's to say i'm an anonymous feels like what bart is doing is an infringement on their personal lives that cutting off your cell phone service is an infringement on their personal rights so they're going after the perpetrators personal lives well it's very ironic was the part which by the way
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and the bay area transit authority it was his idea the spokesperson said in another interview that was his idea to shut himself in service so maybe he does deserve a little bit of hate now as we watch you our last story here so obviously politics right and he knows how politics works and politicians have to make certain statements they know will please a certain crowd and one of those things always involves pledging your undying allegiance to israel and that's what democrats keep marshaled it from the state of nevada she issued a statement of support for israel as violence there as collates but what happened is when they issued this statement they actually left all these notes at the bottom that were just notes or people saying background israel has been in the news lately i will be even more in the news with glenn beck's rally to restore courage in jerusalem in a republican district will be useful to express support for israel and demonstrate some forest foreign policy probably as well as timely topic especially for people who are likely paying attention to back the bag so they kind of buy you some really
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want to get caught say that also this communications one of the first which has been hard hitting come in terms of jobs one of the first jobs that people have lost are their calculators and i think that every day we were reminded about the importance of copy editors and why they're important and they save us from incredible national embarrassment like this. i don't know i mean i think it's just so. we don't need them but it's so great to be written down like hey guess what israel plays well go out and say i heart israel oh i'm back there it's also why i should write a democrat who's trying to get republican voters on their side so they're saying republicans like lead back they like israel why not just wish them all together and the perfect political statement are you guys thanks for joining me tonight that's a good night so thanks for tuning in and make sure you come back tomorrow mother jones news editor nick bellman to be on the show this guy's all the feds are allowing u.s. citizens paid and interrogated by foreign countries in the mind of the phantom they want to show on facebook and follow us on twitter if you missed any of the nice or any other night secondly you got below nischelle and coming up next news is coming
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