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further down economically and for new britain inexperienced and socially liberal. voting prevented in a presidential elections with exit polls suggesting absent vice president bob the frontrunner the ballot was triggered by the death and office of sergei bogosian may lead the country which declared independence in the wake of some of the same take on tricks three years ago. and right now it's our interview show spotlight with host good all in the studio is the twenty ten nobel physics prize winner constantine nova so look talking about the revolutionary nanotech material he discovered and want to know what you call benefits that could lead to. hello again i want to spotlight the interview on r.t. . today my guest is. six years ago two russian
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scientists in manchester discovered a revolutionary material called graphene last week they were awarded the nobel prize in physics for what is likely to lucian ice. today. are packing their bags to collect their million pounds. is joining us. from england. born in russia he's thinking of us all of his father was an engineer while his mother was a teacher after graduating with honors from the moscow physical technical university started work at a scientific research center in the in moscow two years later he moved to the netherlands great he met another russian scientist on drug game and whose guidance he continues to work with do physicists later moved to the university of manchester in the u.k. to continue their research six years ago no less so if i'm game discovered graffiti
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to which they were awarded you're a physics prize there to receive the world's most prestigious scientific award the nobel prize for producing graphene which can rival silicon as a basis of computer chips so perhaps there's sense in letting silicon valley stay american but making griffin valley a more russian creation at skolkovo. welcome to the show thank you very much for being with us. first of all have you already got yourself a tuxedo maybe you got one. and of the too much too many of our other problems. i would i would appreciate some advice ok. well the russian government as far as you know i'm sure is attempting to create a sort of a silicon valley here outside moscow well do you think it may be
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a better idea now to to to create a new grass field value rather than silicon valley. from a graffiti is of called the a priority of words silicon valley would be would be acquired we would you would know you have published a paper describing. describing your your your invention your work well five years ago right so. far five years what have you been doing since work where are you now with your research is it one hundred feet or is something else that horse that was only the beginning what we showed in that paper is that we can produce this material apparently. this material got so many from passing properties that we were still stuck there in for the last six years i guess we're going to started or
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people always are going to started from for the next ten twenty or you or you were more years or so so you still are working on graffiti on the same on the serious subject yeah so so you know moving you know moving to be measured if i were from the subject. on one fortunately norther and the main problem is that i guess the most interesting experiment is still ahead of us and of course this prize really. brings us a little bit behind on this in this rush so to get to those were nice experiments can you tell us what is this most. made experiment and frankly speaking for every single research. might be their own type of experiments because this this material or has a number of very different but very even the same properties the mechanical properties the optical properties the. properties for me is the combination between
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mechanical and electronic properties which are the most interesting constantin you just said a minute ago that you were in this in this paper of yours for which you got the nobel prize you said that you said i quote we can produce griffin but as far as i know you are not producing anything or you are interested in production or you just interested in research. well we do research on this material bugs in order to start our experiments we need to produce those samples first so of course the sample production reproduction of all this material is quite a port and. very often the most important parts or for our research you said that you have to produce enough material for your research but one of your colleagues in the united kingdom i quote said in this age of complexity with the
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machines like the super collider these guys managed to get the nobel prize using just sellotape so. is it true did you really that's. yes that's absolutely true and furthermore i guess a shipper sounds good eighty percent of researchers across the world who do graffiti and it's actually it's a it's a huge subject you know they but they still use this sort of methods which you introduce introduced in two thousand and four and you also still use sellotape in europe. in most cases yes and like it in greek. your health a year do you have enough sellotape now or you still do you still have to do to pick pick it out out of garbage beds room got an exclusive supply from
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a few companies ok now. why are you called garbage scientists you know this label garbage scientists is it is it really because beer because you you pulled your first samples are the garbage bin or what is it. yes probably and i totally don't don't don't come although nobody tells us brave enough to say it's for me to to my phrase was totally totally foreign was being called like this it's an interesting story we were gods it is indeed rooted our colleague electioneer city who was working with us at the time. during experiments on the way how he clean draw fire from the throw in this cellar table with pieces of thin pieces of graphite into the bin and basically what we've done we've picked a top and. made our first samples from from last that so so you don't regard this
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nickname as being insulting to you know absolutely no i don't care how people call and ok now can you tell us when did you realize that what you were doing is really a revolution in physics did you ever realizing it. well. you see we are quite lucky you know all the stuff we can afford to work result thinking about producing area lucian physics we can't afford to work just because we were really really like it and already the very first experiments are true we wish we had done it was was those samples made from those first tapes we realize that we have something extremely interesting in our hands and it took us to probably easier or you were more true to god's the draft and samples
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bods the interest in physics that we could see in the very in the first experiments ok how many people except you and gave contributed to this graphene research because as far as i know usually one or two people get the nobel prize but actually it's a it's a company of like dozens of people is that the case with you. oh yes here i was in that it was a pool of great researchers of fantastic people who were doing those first experiments you see i don't think that. the prize is due in just on the merits of the one experiment so rouer doing very interesting physics over the over the whole all over the years. in that we we. especially want to think of the morals of it in the gregorian who've been working with us for for quite a long time and. also have
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a great pool of from targeted pugilist humans on poles dogs who from all over the world with us but this science is no. this is this this area so vast now that we rely you know experiments not on the on the on our results we do rely on the results of all the community and it is you know it consists of probably hundreds of labs across the world so are you going to split the million quid you hey going to get it yet is that it's well it's million dollars leigh i i'm sort of so busy at the moment i do know a thought for it's. thought about this and really come hard year ok you're teacher and now your colleague andrea game said i quote that graphene has
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all the potential to change our life the same way plastics did in the twentieth century so do you think that the twenty first century will be there the the age of growth feed the age of game and know myself. oh yeah absolutely griffin changed our lives to come completely dramatically so we've had fantastic time over the last years and we arrive to this small one which is which is quite good as well but seriously i think it. it does have a great world potential we still don't realize. how large is this potential i don't want to speculate about a place in silicon or was was your feeling there are far too more can complicated questions that. the as a said already there are quite a few properties of this material which are unique the mechanical tico electronic
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and it's refined its applications. constantin never sold off the nobel prize winner in physics this year spotlight will be back shortly right after the break so stay with us. nearly a billion people in the world for knowing the country's history. in the united states even our trash cans are filled with food you just have to go get it all of these perfectly good eggs because one was cracked didn't even get all over the other ones just thrown away right and cheese from the german elves clearly like the upper crust. from the dumpster at one am this morning three pm this afternoon on
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welcome back to spotlight i am al going of in just a reminder that my guest today via satellite link from from manchester is constantin number still of the man who was awarded nobel prize in physics this year . consensus well i know that you both you. and ray game the colleagues you have just mentioned telling us about your team most of them are russians and i know that you even work at the so-called russian floor at the inverse of manchester although about stories now that by russians so you are a british citizens game is a dutch citizen but did consider yourself still to do to be russian or or british where i don't know european a what do you think oh. i definitely consider myself russian. i'm british as well and we are of
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a lot to russian education to hysteria. and that sounds absolutely. but you chose to go to continue your work in england because what. because the university you're in now gives you more research possibilities what else what if you compare well you already said in a couple of interviews that that the russian system of training in physics is the best in the world but after you trained compare russian and european british what are the differences. first of all let me let me tell you that it is absolutely normal practice that scientists draw from one lab to another to learn different techniques and obtain different skills i can tell you that if you get pigeon in holland for instance he was be able to continue as opposed the get
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there because you would have to by law you would have to go away from the country where there are some some some some researchers of course applied. was them to the major difference or probably one of the one of the good thing for me about. western system of science is its openness and so so easy to move from one university to to another and definitely help in transfer and of the knowledge of the skills and the technology and it's it's it's it's one of the key issues in a more them science well president medvedev when he was speaking well a couple of days ago i think it was the national teacher's day was he was presenting awards to the best teachers in russia he he said a couple of words about you you and gay men he said well it's
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a pity that those russian guys actually got their prize working abroad and he said i would like to see more and more russian scientists working in russia getting the same possibilities the same fun the advantages and what do you feel the do you share the same concern with our president. i would say that you should you should do it more broadly i should say that. in the in wired's back to russia not only russian scientists but we should in the wide the best scientists. back to russia and that that includes russian british american who else science is very different mission is international and you always get it war always want to get the best result and the best results are produced by the best people and you cannot rely on one nationality only in this in this process you have to you
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master the best people as well the really mentioned results of brain drain from russia is that russian scientists are increasingly uncritically sighted in world scientific press and in world scientific publications but since all these scientists are now abroad most of them are abroad does it mean that the younger generation of russian scientists would may not be as successful as you are. two points just toward moore's old blue russian side his broad there are huge number of from past in from the good scientists who work in the russia that's i totally disagree with you on this point and second as i said already exchange of scientists is not about things that's absolute can or practice brain drain is nor is not of wealth in the berthing is the is no
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a real us promises that scientists are coming back to russia and shoot him a sure russia fantastic school of science we should share it with the war but we also have to get something back from the war and we need to unwired best the best people and i don't think that. makes a big issue here constantin the russian government the kremlin has been pretty much obsessed by nana technologies over the last couple of years and many people a journalist has been pretty sort of casting at their about this obsession with nana to tell you do you think that investing into nanotechnology is really the right thing to do for the russian government today. well i guess as you probably misread all this all this initiative. you always need a big flag and i call the the main idea behind this is it is to invest to
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technology in general and it's the correct things it will be absolutely wrong of course to invest into knowledge and knowledge and forget completely about micro technology and forgets about ataturk knowledge and concentrate only about on this time minus nine preference. so what invest in technology as long as it is there was was some science is is a perfectly good idea e you said that you didn't even know the for the tell minutes ago the amount of the money you will get within the prize does that mean that you are not at all interested in money and in business nature you are not at all you and your colleagues are not at all interested in the commercial a use of graphene of putting it into is into well real life into gadgets and
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whatever. well look what. you cannot tell it's for also for my colleagues who have foremost to lose who own companies which are we produce graphene who have nothing to do is that they those companies do do exist so some of my good friends and colleagues they do have some interest in in business. and we're interested in having a good time in the lab. if it involves creation new type of devices from from graffiti we will do it so we are since we produced a prototype of liquid crystal display made of woman we had over heard of graphene bought you are absolutely right it will be very extremely very boring for me to sit for here and try and sue. to make this this device work slightly better that will
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be toward for me but that's an important part of or of jobs and a you mentioned spending time having good time in the land which we should say it is that it is about you really think for her for in life tell us about it what is having a good time with your friends in the lab what do you do what do you mean by having a good time in the lab. ok don't take your honor. like picking up squash table and making make in first examples of graphene that's fantastic time. making some new type of devices does fantastic zero four for me the best one is a device which you can produce. in the day you just got an idea where you will produce a device and you measure it in the room that's the best one. and. any interest in arguments any unusual that's having
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a good time for us constantin this graphene as far as i understand it is a unique unique two d. material a material with unique qualities is it really unique is it one of the kind or there may be other materials with similar or even better qualities yet to come yet to be invented. oh yes absolutely that's and i'm a little bit concerned about this but we are so so much concentration on griffin i really would like to to look a little bit broader now but it's even griffin by itself already that he gives us so much fun that it's hard to. go somewhere else but i'm sure and probably we would suspect how to do it there are other materials there reads worse similar interests and problems as well russian kids have have lots of
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sellotape and we call scotch when they're well whatever so we're where do we have to look for these new materials you said it may be other than graffiti where it what it is what does this do we have to look for it while we can you can think about combinations of graphene and some signals and that will that will produce you a new material and like just put into will gather on three or three rough interns who gather the will be a new material or together so there are so instead of using sellotaped to split graffiti you just put put it back or you just use some nama glue if you want to glue it back together so that's just one just i just corrine you ideas well last question i have read in the press that the military are already getting increasingly interested in your intervention have you heard anything about that do
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you think that can that get. this interest from from the side of the military can spoil your life make your life after. well we were gods i know if you guys from from the office of air force us and from no research there there were nice guys and we do have funding from from down your goal for a conference you you see a top talk from from even told that you did the show you a performance of high frequency to the ministers and half of the screen is blank because the say that it is its information so yes there is some. drive from. as well i hate what it is and this. classified by. the recent about officer issues which is driven more than mostly by the three in the it's because thank you never still of a russian
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a russian scientist in manchester a nobel prize winner that will need some help getting these coming couple days it buying it to see though we didn't sound so please give us a chance to thank you thank you very much for being with us and just to remind us that the fans in the us all it was our guest today. who did that with more first time comments on what's going on in and outside russia until then stay on party and take care.
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