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a court hearing but activists claim the real reason was he's speaking out against corruption and that you can sure. they have minds here in our next hour see needs the captain and who saved all seventy two passengers on a plane's engines failed that flight. hello again i was going to spotlight the interview on r.t. . today my guest is. six years ago two russian scientists in manchester discovered a revolutionary material called team last week they were awarded a nobel prize in physics for what is likely to revolutionize nine attack engineering today game and love us all of our packing their bags to collect their

million pounds. is joining us. from england. born in russia is thinking of us all of us father was an engineer while his mother was a teacher after graduating with honors from the moscow physical technical university constantin started work at a scientific research center early in moscow two years later they can move to the netherlands great and that another russian scientist under again under whose guidance he continues to work to do his assists later moved to the university of manchester in the u.k. to continue their research six years ago no it's all up and game discovered graffiti which they were awarded your a physics prize there to receive the world's most prestigious scientific words the nobel prize for producing griffin and rival silicon as the basis of computer chips so they have their sense and letting silicon valley stay american but making the feen valley more rushing creation at skolkovo.

close to the soul of welcome to the show thank you very much for being with us. first of all have you already got yourself. maybe you got one. no of the torture too many of our other problems. but i would i would appreciate a midwife ok. well the russian government as far as you know i'm sure is attempting to create a sort of a silicon valley here outside moscow well do you think it may be a better idea now to to to create a new grass field value rather than silicon valley. for me graffiti is of called the priority of words so we can worry would be you would required. to do

you would know you have published a paper describing. describing your your your invention your work what five years ago right so. far five years what have you been doing since what will you now with your research is it all good here is something else that was that was on the. what we showed in the paper is that we can produce this material apparently. this material got so many fantastic properties that we were still stellar in for the last six years i guess we're going to start it. going to start it for the next ten twenty or you or your one more years or so so you still are working on graffiti and the same on the serious subject here so so you know you're living here you're not moving to be made out of love from the subject. i'm on fortunately norther and the main problem is that i guess the most interesting

experiment is still ahead of us and of course this process really. brings us a little bit behind on this in this rush to get to those very nice instruments can you tell us what is this that made experiments frankly speaking for every single researcher you might be the type of experiments because this this material office a number of very different very interesting properties the mechanical properties the optical properties the. electronic problems for me is the combination between mechanical. problems which are the most interesting constantin you use your surgeon in minutes ago that you were in this in this paper of yours for which you got the nobel prize you said that you said we can produce good feeling but as far as i know you are not producing anything or you are interested in production or you just

interested in research. while we do research on this material both in order to start our experiments we need to produce those samples first so of course the sample production the production of all this material is quite a port and. very often the north important parts for all of our research are you said that you have to produce enough material for your research but one of your colleagues in the united kingdom i quote said in this age of complexity with the machines like the super collider these guys managed to give the nobel prize using just sellotape so. is it true did you really that's. yes that's absolutely true and furthermore i guess a shipper sounds good at eighty percent of researchers across the world who do

graffiti and it's actually it's a it's a huge subject but they still use this. in methods which you introduce introduced in two thousand and four and you also still use sellotape in your results. in most cases yes and then like. your health a year do you have enough sellotape now are you still. is still have to. pick it out out of garbage beds. got an exclusive supply from a few companies ok now. why are you called garbage scientists you know this label garbage scientists i say is it is it really because because you you pulled your first samples out of the garbage bin or are what is it. yes probably

and i totally don't bomb bomb tomorrow although nobody tells those brave enough to say to me it's once more a phase we're on top of the hour i'm totally fine with being cold like this and so it's an interesting story we were gods and it is indeed rooted college. who is working with us at the time. doing experiments on the way how he'd clean graphite from the throw in this cellar table with pieces of sentences or graphite into the bin and basically what we've done we've picked a top and. made our first samples from from last that so so you don't regard this nickname as being insulting here no it's absolutely no i got along all of people call and ok you know can you tell us when did you realize that what you were doing is really a revolution in physics did you ever realize it. well. you

see we are quite lucky you know we can't afford to work result thinking about producing a aleutian physics we can't afford to work just because we were really really like it and already there were a few things parents are unsure which we wish we were the only with those samples from those first tapes we realize that we have such an extreme interest in in our hands and he took us to probably easier or you would more to to get to the fields graph and samples rods the interest in physics and you can see in the in the thought experiments ok how many people he said you engaged contributed to this graph in research because as far as i know usually one or two people get the nobel prize but actually it's it's

a company of like dozens of people is it the case with here. oh yes here i was the it was proof great researchers of the people who are doing those first experiments birds you see i don't think that. we prize is due in just on the merits of the run experiments a ruler do in very interesting physics over the over the whole all over the years. and that we we. especially want sort of thing should be more of you know your who'd been working with us for for for quite a long time and. also have a great pool of past inclusion of humans and cause dogs from all over the world with us but this science is no. it is this this area so vast now that we rely you know experiments not on only on our results who we rely

on the results of all the community and it is consistent for with hundreds of labs across the world so are you going to split the million quid you he going to get a good start on. instance it's a million honestly i. have so because of the noise i do there are no thought ports. of thought about this and really i'm hardly. your teacher and now your colleague andrew again said i quote that graphene has all the potential to change our life the same way plastics did in the twentieth century so do you think that the twenty first century will be there the the age of graphene the age of game and know myself. oh yeah absolutely griffin changed our lives

completely dramatically so we've had fantastic time over the last few years and we are right to that this morning which is which is quite good as well but seriously i think. it does have a great or potential we still don't realize. how large is this potential i don't want to speculate about its place in silicon or griffin there are far more complicated questions that. as i said already there are quite a few properties of this material which we are unique it's mechanical teco electronic and it's refined it's a it's not like a sions because that's you never sort of the nobel prize winner in physics this year it's not life will be back shortly right after the break so stay with them.

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back to spotlight on our going out and just to remind you that my guest today via satellite link from from manchester is constrained in number still of the man who was awarded nobel prize in physics this year. consensus well i know that you both you hear the you andrei game and the colleagues you have just mentioned are telling us about ebert city most of them are russians and i know that even a work of the so-called russian floor at the inverse of manchester although about trees and all that by russians so you are a group citizens game is a dutch citizen but did consider yourself still to did to be russian or were or british were i dunno european or what do you think oh. i definitely consider

myself russian. i'm british as well and we are of a loss to russian education. and that's hands up saluted. but you chose to go to continue your work in england because work there because the university you're in now gives you more research possibilities what else what if you compare well you already said in a couple of interviews there that the russian system of training in physics is the best in the world but after you trained compare russian and european british what are the differences. so all. looking to tell you that it is absolutely normal practice that scientists go from one left to another to learn different techniques and in different skills i can tell you that if you go

out. in holland for instance you want to be able to continue as opposed to over there because you would have to by law you would have to go away from the country where there are. some. restrictions of course applied. was the measure difference or probably one of the run of the do three things about. western system or science it's all printers and so so easy to move from one university to another and definitely help in france for in the knowledge of the skills and knowledge and. it's it's it's one of the key issues more than science well president medvedev when he was speaking well a couple of days ago i think it was the national teachers day was he was presenting

you would say the best teachers in russia he he said a couple of words about you you and the game and he said well it's a pity that those russian guys actually got their prize working every ride and he said i would like to see more and more russian scientists working in russia getting the same possibilities the same funny advantages and well do you feel the do you share the same concern with our president. i would say that. you should do it more broadly oceans. in the in wired's. back to russia not only russian scientists but we should in the wide berth scientists. or russia and that that includes russian british or american who know ours science is very different mission is international and you always go to war always want to get the best result and the best results are produced by the best people

and you can't rely on one mission ality only in this in this process you have to you master the question for hours well the really mentioned results of brain drain from russia is that russian scientists are increasingly there are increasingly cited in the world scientific press and in world scientific publications but since all these scientists are now at broad most of them are abroad does it mean that the younger generation of russian scientists may not be as successful as you are. two points just toward north all russian side is a broad there are huge number of front passing through a good scientist who work in russia the talk really does agree with you on this point and second as i said already exchange of scientists is not

about things that's absolute can or practice brain drain is nor is not about the things the is no a real process is that scientists are coming back to russia and so you should be sure russia got past in school science we should share it with the world with what we also have to get something back from the war and we need to in wide best. people and i don't think the mission. in the russian government the kremlin has been pretty much obsessed by nana technology over the last couple of years and many people a journalist has been pretty surpassed dick at their and now this obsession with nanotechnology do you think that investing into nanotechnology is really the right thing to do for the russian government today. i guess you probably mean

through it all this or this initiative. you always need a big flag and i call the the main idea behind this is it's the universe to technology in general and it's we correct things it will be absolutely wrong of course to invest into nanotechnology and forget the complete micro technology and forget that it's into her and concentrate only on this ten minus nine. traffics. so what you invest in. as long as it is done with some science is is a perfectly good idea e you said that she didn't even know before the tell minutes ago the amount of the money you'll get with a nobel prize that means that you're not at all interested in money and in business there sure you are not at all you and your colleagues are not at all interested in

the commercial they use of graphene of putting it into it into will rely think of gadgets and whatever. well look what. you cannot tell it's from also from my colleagues who have promised to those who own companies which are we produce griffin who have nothing to do is there they are those companies do do exist so some of my good friends and colleagues they do have some interest in in business. we are interested in having a good time in the lab. involves the creation new type or would you write us from from graffiti we would do it so we instance we would produce the prototype of liquid crystal display made of woman we had or not heard of graphene bart you are absolutely right it would be very extremely very boring for me to sit for

a here and try and sue. the two twin way with this device work slightly better that for me to board that's an important part of the of jobs ok you mentioned spending time having good time in their land which we she said is he is a natural really prefer in life tell us about it what is having a good time with your friends and the loud what do you do what do you mean that having good time in the lab. ok don't take your own a. right like picking up squash paper and making make in first samples of graphene that's a fantastic time. making some new type of devices that's for me the best one is a device which you can produce within the day and you just got an idea where you will produce a device and you measure it in the evening that's the. best one. and. any

interesting arguments any unusual that's having a good time. constantin this grassy as far as i understand is a unique unique two d. material a material with unique qualities is it really unique is it one of a kind or there may be other materials with similar or even better qualities yet to come yet to be invented. oh yes absolutely that's and i'm a little bit concerned about this but we are so so much concentration on griffin i really would like to to look a little bit broader now but it's the grafin where it's out or already it's gives us so much for hundreds it's hard to. go somewhere else with i'm sure and probably we would suspect how to do it there are other materials there

reads worse similar interesting problems well russian kids have had lots of sellotape and we close touch one of their well whatever so where where do we have to look for these new material he said it may be other than graffiti where you know what it is what does this do we have to look for it while we can you can think about combinations of graphene and sums and else and that would that would produce you a new material or. just push into graphemes would gather on three or three graph interns who gather and that would be a new material or together so there are instead of using sellotaped to split grafin you just put a drug or you just use some none agree with you one two so you have it so that's just one not just i just quickly new ideas well last question i have read in the

press that the military how old it is getting increasingly interested in your invention have you heard anything about that you think that can that can. this interest from from the side of the military can spoil your life made a life after. we were gods i know if you guys from from the office of. us and from and they all researched they were very nice guys and we do have funding from from them your goal for a conference you you see a toy talk from from even told they do the show you a performance of how high frequency transistors and how awful the screen is bland because they say that it is restricted information so yes there is some. dr from in that area as well i hate what it is. classified by the recent bout of research which is which is doing more than most

and by the it can spend you never saw all of the russian the russian scientists in manchester a nobel prize winner that will need some analysis and hearing these coming couple of days in buying its leader was in town felt please give them a chance to thank you thank you very much for being with us and just to remind us that the french and the result was our guest today and. that with your president comments on what's going on in and outside russia until then stay and party and take care.

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