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a soul of our packing their bags to collect their million pounds welcome the rest of is joining us via satellite link from england. born in russia thinking the letter was father was an engineer while his mother was a teacher after graduating with honors from the law school physical technical university constantin started work at a scientific research center early in moscow two years later he moved to the netherlands breaking that another russian scientist under a game under his guidance he continues to work the two physicists later moved to the university of manchester in the u.k. to continue their research six years ago no less so if i'm game discovered graffiti the which they were awarded you're a physics prize there to receive the world's most prestigious scientific award the nobel prize for producing graffiti and wish to rival silicon as a basis of computer chips so perhaps there's sense in letting silicon valley stay american but making valley more russian creation at skolkovo.

close to the oversoul of welcome to the show thank you very much for being with us . first of all have you already got yourself a tuxedo maybe you got one. to march to many of our other problems not only others but. i would i would appreciate. a midwife ok. well the russian government as far as you know i'm sure is attempting to create a sort of a silicon valley here outside moscow well do you think it may be a better idea now to to to create new agrafena value rather than silicon valley. from a refuse of call the priority of boards silicon valley would be you would be

acquired. would you know you have published a paper describing. describing your your your invention your work well five years ago right so. far five years what have you been doing since we're well you now with your research isn't until good here is something else that was that was all the. what we showed in that paper is that you can produce this the material apparently. this material got so many from passing properties that we were still scholar in for the last six years i guess we're going to start it or people these are going to stop it from for the next ten twenty or you or even more years or so so you still are working on graphene and the same on the serious subject here so so you know you're living here you're not moving from the subject. i'm one fortunately not on the main problem is that i guess the most interesting experiment

is still ahead of us and of course this prize really. brings us a little bit behind on this in this rush to to get to those who are nice and stones can you tell us what is this love that made experiment frankly speaking for every single assertion and i'd be there the type i prefer experiments because this this material offers a number of very different but very even the central properties of the mechanical properties the optical properties the. electronic probably does for me is the combination between the mechanical. properties which are the most interesting constantin you use your set in a minute ago that you were in this in this paper of your is for which you got the nobel prize you said that you said i quote we can produce a good thing but as far as i know you are not producing anything or you are

interested in production or you just interested in research. we do research on this material bugs in order to stop our experiments we need to produce those samples first so of course the sample production reproduction of all this material is quite a quarter and. we're off from the north important parts or four of our research you said that you have to produce enough material for your research but one of your colleagues in the united kingdom i quote said in this age of complexity with the machines like the super collider these guys managed to get the nobel prize using just sellotape so. is it true give you really that's. yes that's absolutely true and furthermore i guess

a shipper sounds good eighty percent of researchers across the world who do graffiti and it's actually it's a huge subject they do they still use this solitary methods which you introduce introduce themselves and for and you also still use sellotape in your associates. in most cases yes and then like. you have a year do you have enough sellotape now or you still. you still have to pick it out out of garbage beds. got an exclusive supply from a few companies ok now. why are you called garbage scientists you know this label guard these scientists is it is it really because because you you called your first samples out of the garbage bin or what is it. yes probably and i

totally don't go on the although nobody tells the graven autosaves for me to twitter phrase we're totally are i'm totally fine with being called like this and it's an interesting story we were gods and indeed. our colleague. who was working with us at the time. doing experiments on the way how he'd clean graphite in the throw in this so it's hey we're sort of pieces of fruit is a sort of graphite into the beam and basically what we've done we've. made our first samples from from last it so so you don't regard this nickname as being insulting here no absolutely no i got a long haul of people call in here now earth can you tell us when did you realize that what you were doing is really a revolution in physics did you ever realizing it. well. you

see we are quite lucky in our lab we can't afford to work result thinking about producing a aleutian physics we can't afford to work just because we were really really like it and already the very first experiments are true which we do wish we had done it with those samples made from those first tapes we realize that we have such an extreme interest in in our hands. it took us to probably easier or you win more to get through the first russian samples bods the interesting physics we can see in the very. first experiments ok how many people except you and game contributed to this graphene research because as far as i know usually one or two people get the nobel prize that actually it's a it's

a company of like dozens of people is it the case with here. oh yes here i was literally a pool of great researchers of fantastic people who were doing those first experiments birds if you see i don't think that. the prize is given just on the merit of the run experiments are doing very interesting physics over the over the whole all over the years. in that we we actually i especially want to to think should be more of an integral or who'd been working without food for for quite a long time and we also have a great pool of plastic used in students on poles books who from all over the world with us but this science is now. this is this the scariest so vast now that we rely you know our screens not on the wrong on our results we will

rely on the results of the community and it is consistent for with hundreds of labs across the world so are you going to split the million quid you're going to get a good start on. its million honestly i i'm sort of sold because of the knowledge i didn't know or thought. of thought about this and really i'm hardly. you're a teacher and now your colleague andrew again said i quote that graphene has all the potential to change our life the same way plastics did in the twentieth century so do you think that the truly first century will be there the age of graffiti the age of game and no a sort of. oh yeah absolutely griffin changed our lives completely

dramatically so we've had fantastic time over the last few years and we arrive at this small one which is of interest quite good as well but seriously i think. it does have a great for potential we still go on three allies. how large of this potential i don't want to speculate so while it's a place in silicon or with griffin there are fossil wolken complicated questions that. as i said already there are quite a few properties of this material which we can show unique it's mechanical optical electronic and it will find its applications. so the lead nobel tries going in physics this year spotlight will be back shortly right after the break so stay with us then there.

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welcome back to spotlight and i'll do nuffin just to remind you that my guest today via satellite link from from manchester is constantin r.s.l. of the man who was awarded nobel prize in physics this year. well i know that you both you. and regain their colleagues you have just mentioned telling us about every city most of them are russians and i know that she even work at the so-called russians who are at the inverse of manchester. well that by russians so you are a british citizens game is a dutch citizen but do you consider yourself still to did to be russian or or

british were i don't know european or what do you think or i mean i definitely consider myself russian. i'm british as well and with all the logs true or russian education or history or. sounds absolutely. but you chose to go to continue your work in england because what. because the university you're in now gives you more research possibilities what else what if you compare what you already said in a couple of interviews that said the russian system of training in physics is the best in the world but after you trained compare russian and european british what are the differences. first of all let me let me tell you that it is absolutely normal practice that scientists go from one lab to another to

learn different techniques and obtain different skills i can tell you that if you go. in holland for instance you want to be able to continue as opposed to out of there because you would have to while or you would have to go away from the country where there are some. of course apply. was the the major difference or probably one of the one of the good thing about its. western system of science it's all pointless and so so easy to move from one university to another and the definitely help in transfer in from the knowledge of and the skills and the technology and it's it's it's it's one of the key issues newseum of them science well president medvedev when he was speaking well a couple of days ago i think it was the national teachers day was he was presenting

awards the best teachers in russia he he will receive a year you and the game and he said well it's a pity that those russian guys actually got their prize working here abroad and he said i would like to see more and more russian scientists working in russia getting the same bus abilities the same funny advantages and well do you feel the do share the same concern with our president. i would say that's good you should you should do it more broadly oceans headed. in the in wired's. back to russia not only russian scientists what we should in the wild west scientists. or russia and that includes russian british american who know our us science is very different initially is international and you always do your war

always want to get the best result and the best results are produced by the best people and you cannot rely on one mission only in movies and in this process you have to. the best controllers well the really mentioned results of brain drain from russia is that russian scientists are increasingly in the cited in the world scientific press and in world scientific publications but since all these scientists are now at broad most of them are broad does it mean that the younger generation of russian scientists would may not be as successful as you are . two points just toward north all the russian side is a broad there are huge number of from past including good scientists who work in russia those i totally disagree with you on this point and second as i said already

this exchange of scientists is not about things that's absolute can or practice brain drain is nor is not about the berthing is that there is no a real us crosses that scientists are coming back to russia and so you should be sure russia got fantastic school of science we should share it with us was the war but we also have to get science and work from the war and we need to in wide. west people and i don't think the mission. is not in the russian government the kremlin has been pretty much obsessed by nanotechnology over the last couple of years and many people and journalists have been pretty soon casting there and now this obsession with nanotechnology do you think that investing into nanotechnology is really the right thing to do for the russian government today. well i guess you probably misread all this all this initiative. you always

need a big flag and i told the the main idea behind this is is to invite us to technology in general and it's because things are it will be absolutely wrong of course to invest into knowledge and knowledge and forget company for evolves microstrip knowledge area and forgets about ethics in technology and concentrate only on the ten minus nine. profits. so what you invest in college as long as it is done with with some science is is a perfectly good idea e you said that she didn't even know before the tell minutes ago the amount of the money you'll get with a nobel prize that that means that you are not at all interested in money and in business nature you are not at all you and your colleagues are not at all

interested in the commercial they use or graphene of putting it into he into will rely think of gadgets or whatever. well look what. you cannot tell it's for also for my colleagues who have promised to lose who own companies which are we should do is produce graphene who have nothing to do is that they know those companies do or do exist so some of my good friends and colleagues they do have some interest in in business. we're interested in having a good time in the lab. if you could involves creation a new type of devices from from griffin we would do it so we for one instance we produced a prototype of liquid crystal display made of when we had over and over graphic involved you are absolutely right how it would be very extremely very boring for me

to sit for here and try and sue. to some way with this device works slightly better that would be too boring for me but that's an important part of or of jobs and a you mentioned spending time having good simon their land which we shoot said is that he is a natural really prefer a lot to us about it what is having a good time with your friends and the lab what do you do what do you mean by having a good time in the lab. ok don't take your honor. like picking up squash table and making make in first sandals of graphene that's fantastic time. making new title devices there's a contrast to perform for me the best one is a device which you can produce within a day and you just got an idea where your producer the wiser and you measure it in

. the best one. and. any interesting arguments any unusual that's having a good time for us. this graphene as far as i understand it is a unique unique two d. material a material with unique qualities is it really unique is it one of the kind or there may be other materials with similar or even better qualities yet to come yet to be invented. oh yes absolutely that's and i'm a little bit concerned about this but we are so so much concentration on refuse i really would like to to look a little bit broader now but it's even bigger a few by itself or already it's gives us so much fun that it's hard to. go somewhere else but i'm sure and probably we would suspect how to do it there are

other materials there reads worse similar interest in property as well russian kids have have lots of sellotape and we call a scotch one of their well whatever so where where do we have to look for these new materials you said it may be other than graffiti where you know what it is what does this do we have to look for it but we can you can think about combinations of graphene and some signals and that will produce new material or. just put into graph ins will gather on three or three russians will gather and will be a new material or together so there are instead of husan sell a tape to split graffiti you just put it back or you just use on now mcgrew if you want to glue it back together so that's just one not just i just when you ideas well last question i have read in the press that the military already getting

increasingly interested in your intervention have you heard anything about that do you think that can that get. this interest from from the side of the military can spoil your life make your life. we were gods i don't know if you guys from from the office of air force or us and from no research there there were nice guys and we do have funding from from down your goal for a conference you you see it's all a talk from from even told a good to show you a performance of high frequency sounds instance on top of the screen is bland because they say that it is restricted information so yes there is some. drive from. as well i hate for the to win this.

fight by the reason a part of her search for truth which is doing more than most and why three and its contents you never see all of the russian the russian scientists in manchester and no good guys would do that will need some help these coming couple days if buying a strict legal weed sound self please give her the chance to thank you thank you very much for being with us and just to remind us that the fans in the us so it was our guest today. that with more friends and comments on what's going on in and outside russia until then stay and party and take care.

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