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hello again i was going to spotlight. on r.t. i'll be novel and today my guess is. not myself six years ago two russian scientists in manchester discovered a revolutionary material told me last week they were warded and nobel prize in physics for what is likely to revolutionize now an attack engineering today game and not a soul of our packing their bags for stuff to collect their million pounds. is joining us via satellite link from england. born in russia is that universal is father was an engineer while his mother was a teacher after graduating with honors from the moscow physical technical university constantin started work at a scientific research center early in moscow two years later he moved to the

netherlands great and that another russian scientist on drug aid and whose guidance he continues can work to do physicists later moved to the university of manchester in the u.k. to continue their research six years ago no less so if i'm game discovered repeat george they were awarded the new physics prize there to receive the world's most prestigious scientific word the nobel prize for producing graffiti which can rival silicon as a basis of computer chips so they have their sense and i think silicon valley stay american but making in valley more russian creation at skolkovo. close to the soul of welcome to the show thank you very much for being with us. first of all have you already got yourself a coke see there maybe you got one. and of the knowledge to many over other problems. i would i would appreciate. some advice

ok. well the russian government as far as you know i'm sure is attempting to create a sort of a silicon valley here outside moscow well do you think it may be editor idea now to to to create a new graphene value rather than a silicon valley. before me graffiti is of called the priority of silicon really would be you would require. you would know you have published a paper describing. describing your your your invention your work well five years ago right so. far five years what have you been doing since we're well you now with your research is it an old routine or is something else that was that was only the big what we showed in the paper is that we can produce this

material apparently. this material got so many fantastic properties that we were still stellar in for the last six years or so i guess we're going to started. going to all started from for the next ten twenty or even before you have more years or so so you still are working on graffiti and the same on the c.n.n. center here so so you know moving you know moving a problem from the subject. i'm on fortunately norther and the main problem is that i guess the most interesting experiment is still ahead of us and of cause this prize really. brings us a little bit behind on the scene in this rush so to get to those were nice instruments can you tell us what is this that made experiment of practice particularly for every single research. might be their own type of

experiments because this this material or has a number of very different but very recent crop properties the mechanical properties the optical properties the. problem is for me is the combination between mechanical and literally properties which are the most interesting constantin you use your certain immunity that you were in this in this paper of your is for which you know the nobel prize you said that you said i quote we can produce graphene but as far as i know you are not producing anything or you are interested in production or you just interested in research. while we do research on this material bugs in order to start our experiments we need to produce those samples first so of course the sample production we production of all of this material is quite a port and. very often the most important part or for all of our assertion you

said that you have to produce enough material for your research but one of your colleagues in the united kingdom i quote said in this age of complexity with the machines like the super collider these guys managed to give the nobel prize using just sellotape so. is it true do you really that's. yes that's absolutely true and furthermore i guess eighty percent and good eighty percent of researchers across the world who do graffiti you know it's actually it's you seclusion the subject now they are they still use this. methods which you introduce introduced in two thousand and four and you also still use save in your associates. in north cases yes and.

you have a year do you have enough sellotape now or are you still do you still have to do to pick pipit pick it out out of garbage benz. you've got an exclusive supply for a few companies ok now. why are you called garbage scientists you know this label garbage scientists i have is it is it really because of the because you you pulled your first samples out of the garbage bin or what is it. yes probably and i totally don't go on the internet although nobody tells a brave enough to say it's for me to twenty phrase were totally are i'm totally fine with being called like this and so it's an interesting story were we gods it is indeed ruled out our college election years and who was working with ours at the time. doing experiments on the way how he clean graphite in the throw in

various cellars hayward's of pieces of things is a sort of graph right into the bin and basically what we've done we. made our first samples from from last night so so you don't regard this next day man as being insulting he you know absolutely no i don't along or people call and ok you know can you tell us when did you realize that what you were doing is really a river aleutian in physics did you ever realizing it. well. you see we are quite lucky in our lab we can't afford to work result thinking about producing a aleutian physics we can't afford to work just because we we really really like it and already there were first experiments which we wish we wish we had done it with

those samples from those first tapes we realize that we have something extremely interesting in our hands and it took us to probably easier or you win more to get through the fields graph and samples bods the interest in physics and we can see in the very few in the experiments ok how many people except you and again contributed to this laughing research because as far as i know usually one or two people get the nobel prize but actually it's a it's a company of like dozens of people is it the case with you oh yes here i was the it was a poor creates researchers who are asking people who are doing those first experiments you see i don't think that. prize is due in just on the merits of the one experiment so rule very interesting physics would be over the whole all over

the years. in that we would actually i especially want to thank should be more of you know your have been working with us for for quite a long time and. also have a great pull off from past inclusion students and poles dogs from all over the world with us but this science is now. it is this this area so vast now that we rely on you know experiments not on the on our results will we rely on the results of all the community and it is no consistent for with hundreds of labs across the world so are you going to split the million quid year he going to get to get his stack on. well insley it's a million honestly i i'm sort. of the noise i didn't know or thought.

but i thought about this and really i'm horrid you ok your teacher and now your colleague andrew again said i quote that graphene has all the potential to change our life the same way plastics did in the twentieth century so do you think that the twenty first century will be there the the age of graffiti in the age of game uno a sort of. oh yeah absolutely griffin changed our lives completely dramatically so we've had fantastic time over the last few years and. a very small one which is which is quite good as well but seriously i think. it does have a great word potential we still don't realize. how large is this potential i don't want to speculate about its place in silicon or was griffin there are

far more complicated question is that. as i said already there are quite a few properties of this material which we are unique be it's mechanical or teco electronic and it's refined it's it's not occasions because that you never saw of the nobel prize winner in physics this year spotlight will be back shortly right after the break so stay with us then. nearly a billion people in the world are knowing that every day. in the united states even our trash cans are full of the food you just have to go get it all of these

perfectly good eggs because one was cracked didn't even get all over the other ones just thrown away rotten shoes from the german oh you clearly like the upper cut. from the dumpster at one am this morning three pm this afternoon on the grill a cake made from one dozen. egg whites. delicious breakfast for the family ate some toast for about a week and every year in america we'd throw away ninety six billion pounds of food .

welcome back to spotlight i am al goodman of in just a reminder that my guest today via satellite link from from manchester is constantin of a cell of the man who was awarded nobel prize in physics this year. consensus well i know that you both you you and regain the colleagues you have just mentioned telling us about ed. most of them are russians and i know that she even worked at the so-called russian floor at the inverse of manchester although directories how that by russians so you are a british citizen game is a dutch citizen but do consider yourself still to be to be russian or or or british

or i don't know european a what do you think oh. i definitely consider myself russian. i'm british as well and of the last two or russian education can steer. and that sounds absolutely. but you chose to go to continue your work in england because what. because the university you're in now gives you more research possibilities what else what if you compare well you already said in a couple of interviews that that the russian system of training in physical is the best in the world but after you trained compare russian and european british what are the differences. first of all let me. tell you that it is absolutely normal practice that scientists go from one lab to another to

learn different techniques and obtain different skills i can tell you that if you go. in holland for instance you want to be able to continue as opposed to over there because you would have to buy a lawyer you would have to go away from the country where there are some some some . sense of cause applied. was the measure of difference or probably one of the one of the good things in a rhodes. western system of science it's all printers and so so easy to move from one university of tool to another and the definitely help in transferring of the knowledge and the skills and the deploy and it's it's it's it's one of the key issues you need more them science well president medvedev when he was speaking well a couple of days ago i think it was the national teachers day was he was presenting

the world to the best teachers in russia he he had a couple of words about you you and the game and he said well it's a pity that those russian guys actually got their prize working here at broad and he said i would like to see more and more russian scientists working in russia getting the same bus abilities the same funny advantages and well do you feel the do you share the same concern with our president. i would say that the you should you should do it more broadly i should say that. in the in why it's. back to russia not only russian scientists but we should in the wide view where scientists . write to russia and that that includes russian british american who else science is very different mission is international and you always get

a war always want to get the western result and the best results are produced by the best people and you cannot rely on one nationality only in this in this process you have to master in white the best you progress well the really mentioned results of brain drain from russia is that russian scientists are increasingly using the cited in the world scientific press in world scientific publications but since all these scientists are now a grower most of them are abroad doesn't mean that the younger generation are russian scientists would may not be as successful as you are. two points trust toward north all do russian side has a broad there are huge number of from past in for the good scientists who work in russia that's i totally disagree with you on this point and second as i said

already exchange of scientists is not about things that's absolutely not or practice brain drain is nor is not about the the berthing is that there is no a real process that scientists are coming back to russia and so you should be sure russia got fantastic school of science we should share it with the world but we also have to get something back from the war and when it's required west west people and i don't think the. issue here. consent in the russian government the kremlin has been pretty much obsessed by nanotechnology over the last couple of years and many people a journalist has been producer casting there and now this obsession with nanotechnology do you think that investing into nanotechnology is really the right thing to do for the russian government today. well i can as you probably

misread all this all this new initiative. you always need a big flag and i call the the main idea behind this is to and while it is true in the us to technology in general and it's the correct things it will be absolutely wrong of course to invest into knowledge and knowledge and forget completely evolves microstrip know as you and forgot the votes which are and concentrate only on the term minus nine a preference. so what you invest in college as long as it was with some science is is a perfectly good idea you said that she didn't even know that for the tell minutes ago the amount of the money will get within the price that mean that you are not at all interested in money and in business there sure you are not at all you and your

colleagues are not at all interested in the commercial they use or graphene of putting it into it into gold real life into gadgets or whatever. well look what. just what we cannot tell it's for or so for my colleagues who have promised to lose who own companies which are we should which produce graphene we have nothing to do is there they know those companies do do exist so one of my good friends and colleagues they they do have some interest in in business. we are interested in having a good time in the lab. if it involves creating a new type of devices from from a few we will do it so we for instance we produced a prototype of liquid crystal display made of when we had of not heard of graphene bart you are absolutely right how it would be very extremely very boring for me to

sit for here and try and sue. to. his device were slightly better but for me to work for me that's an important part of the order jobs and a you mentioned spending time having good simon their land which she said is that it is natural really prefer in life to us about it what is having a good time with your friends and allowed what do you do what do you mean by having a good plan in the lab. ok don't take your own or. like picking up squash table and making making first examples of graphene that's a fantastic time. making new title you ices that's fantastic for me the best one is a device which you can produce. in a day and you just got an idea where you will produce a device and you measure it in the evening that's. the best one. and.

any interest in arguments of any unusual that's a really good time. constantin this graphene as far as i understand it is a unique unique to dean material a material with unique qualities is it really unique is it one of a kind or there may be other materials with similar or even better qualities yet to come yet to be invented. oh yes absolutely that's and i'm a little bit concerned of all this but we are so so much concentration on griffin i really would like to tool a little bit broaden our words even graphene by itself or poorly gives us so much fun that it's hard to. go somewhere else but i'm sure and probably we would suspect how to do it there are other materials there previous

worst single interesting properties well russian kids have have lots of sellotape and we call scotch well they're well well whatever so where where do we have to look for these new material he said it may be other than graffiti where it what it is what does this do we have to look for it while we can you can think about combinations of graphene and some sanaa lathan that would that would produce you a new material and. just put into griffin's would gather on three or three reference would gather and the would be a new material or together so there are so instead of using sellotaped to split graffiti you just put it back or you just use on nama grew a few one two glued back together so that's just one not just i just cordon you ideas well last question i have read in the press that the military

already getting increasingly interested in your intervention have you heard anything about that do you think that can that can. this interest from from the side of the military can spoil your life make your life after. we were gods i know if you guys from from the office or air force or us and from no research and if there were nice guys and we do have funding from from them. for a conference you you see a toy it's our problem from even told they show you a performance of high frequency problems in stores and half of the screen is blank because they say that it is restricted information so yes there is some. drive from the three as well i hate what it is and has.

fried. the resigned part of research which is which is doing more than most and why in the its contents you never see all of the russian russian scientists in manchester the nobel prize winner that will need some help thank you in these coming couple of days inviting you to be there with sound celt please give us a chance to thank you thank you very much for being with us and just to remind us that the fans in the us all it was our guest today and will be back with more friends and comments on what's going on in and outside russia until then stay on r.t. and take a. wealthy

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