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and today my guest is. six years ago two russian scientists in manchester this covers a revolutionary material called graphene last week they were awarded a nobel prize in physics for what is likely to revolutionize nine attack engineering today again and not a soul of our packing their bags to collect their million pounds. is joining us via satellite link from england. born in russia think in the us all of his father was an engineer well he's moderate was a teacher after graduating with honors from the law school physical technical university constantin started work at a scientific research center in the moscow two years later he moved to the netherlands break imagine another russian scientist under again under his guidance he continues to work the two physicists later moved to the university of manchester in the u.k.

to continue their research six years ago no less so if i'm game just repeat the image they were awarded you're a physics prize that's received the world's most prestigious scientific words the nobel prize for producing graffiti and rival silicon as a basis of computer chips so perhaps there's a sense in letting silicon valley stay american but making griffin valley a more russian creation and spoke about. the soul of welcome to the show thank you very much for being with us. first of all have you already got yourself. maybe you got one. and of course too much too many over our problems not the other but. i would i would appreciate a midwife ok. well the russian government as far as you know i'm sure he is attempting to create a sort of

a silicon valley here outside moscow well do you think it may be a better idea now to choose to create a new agrafena value rather than a silicon valley. for me graffiti is of called the priority of lords silicon really would be you would be quite. who you would know you have published a paper describing. describing your your your invention your work well five years ago right so. far five years what have you been doing since we're well you now with your research is this another good theory or something else that was that was all the. what we showed in the paper is that we can produce this the material apparently. this material got so many fantastic properties that. for the last six years i guess we're going to start it or people these are going to

start it from for the next ten twenty or you or you want more years or so so you still are working on graffiti in the same under serious subject here so so you know moving you're not moving from the subject. i'm one fortunately northern and the main problem is that i guess the most interesting experiment is still ahead of us and of course this process really. brings us a little bit behind on this in this rush to to get to those very nice instruments can you tell us what is this that made experiment. speaking for every single a seriously might be the type of experiments because this this material or has a number of were very different very in the central properties the mechanical properties the optical properties the. problem for me is the combination between

mechanical. properties which are the most interesting constantin you use your set in a minute ago that you were in this in this paper of yours for which you like the nobel prize you said that you said i quote we can produce a good thing but as far as i know you're out not producing anything or you are interested in production or you just interested in research. while we do research on this material boards in order to start our experiments we need to produce those samples first so of course the sample production we production of this material is quite poor thousands and. very often the north important parts for our research are you said that you have to produce enough material for your research but one of your colleagues in the united kingdom i quote said in this age

of complexity with machines like the super collider these guys managed to get the nobel prize using just sellotape so. is it true did you really that's. yes that's absolutely true and furthermore i guess a shipper sounds good at eighty percent of researchers across the world who look griffin and it's actually it's a huge subject but they still use this sort of tape and methods which you introduce introduced in two thousand and four and you also still use sellotape in your association. and in most cases yes and you like it here greek. you have a year do you have enough sellotape now or are you still do you still have it to pick to pick it out out of garbage beds. got an exclusive supply from

a few companies ok now. why are you called garbage scientists you know this label garbage scientists is it is it really because because you you pulled your first samples out of the garbage bin or what is it. yes probably told lee don't go on the internet although nobody tells the brave enough to say it's for mutants were a phrase were totally are i'm totally fine with being called like this and it's an interesting story we were gods and indeed rooted our college election years lee who was working with us at the time. doing experiments on the way how he clean graphite in the throw in this cellar table with pieces of his a sort of graphite into the bin and basically what we've done we've.

made our first samples from from the last so so you don't regard this nickname as being insulting here now absolutely my daughter along people call and ask you know can you tell us when did you realize that what you were doing is really a revolution in physics did you have a realizing it. well. you see we are quite lucky you know we can't afford to work result thinking about producing a aleutian physics we can't afford to work just because we we really really like it and already the very first experiments which we wish we do wish we were the only with those samples made from those first tapes we realize that we have something extremely interesting in our hands. you took us to probably easier or you were more

suited to get through the first draft and samples bards the interest in physics and we could see in the very. first experiments ok how many people he said you can gain contributed to this laugh in research because as far as i know usually one or two people get the nobel prize that actually it's a it's a company of like dozens of people is that the case with yours. oh yes here i was that it was a pool of great researchers of fantastic people who were doing those first experiments you see i don't think. the prize is given just on the merits of that one experiments are doing very interesting physics over the over the whole all over the years. in that we we actually i especially want lou to think should be more of you know your have been working with us for for quite

a long time and. also have a great pool of plastic creationist humans on poles dogs from all over the world with us but this science is now. is this the scariest so vast now that we realize you know as parents not on the on our results who we rely on the results of all the community and it is you know it consists of probably hundreds of labs across the world so are you going to split the million quid you he going to get it yet is that on. well it's it's it's a million or mostly i i'm sort. of the noise i do there are no thought it's. sort of obvious and really unheard you. you're your teacher and now your colleague andrew again said i quote that graphene

has all the potential to change our lives the same way plastics did in the twentieth century so do you think that the twenty first century will be there the the age of graphene the age of game and know myself. absolutely griffin changed our lives come completely dramatically so we've had some plastic times over the last few years and we arrive to a very small one which is which is quite good as well but seriously i think it's. it does have a great world potential we still don't realize. how large of this potential i don't want to speculate about a place in silicon or griffin there are so welcome complicated questions that. as i said already there are quite

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for the. markets financed scandals find out what's really happening to the global economy for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines to name two kinds of reports on r g. welcome back to spotlight on alderney of in just a reminder that my guests today via satellite link from from manchester is constantin oversell of the man who was awarded nobel prize in physics this year. consensus well i know that you both you hear you andrei game and the colleagues you have just mentioned are telling us about it about cities most of them are russians and i know that even the work of the so-called russians

who are have the inverse of manchester although a bioterrorist now that by russians so you are a group citizens game is a dutch citizen but did consider yourself still to did to be russian or or british were i don't know european or what do you think oh. i definitely consider myself russian. i'm british as well and of a last russian education to hear. sounds absolutely. but you chose to go to continue your work in england because right now because the university you're in now gives you more research possibilities what else but if you compare well you already said in a couple of interviews there that the russian system of training in physics is the best in the world but after you trained compare russian and european british what

are the differences. first of all. let me tell you that it is absolutely normal practice that scientists go from one lab to another to learn different techniques and tane different skills i can tell you that if you go ph d. in holland for instance he was be able to continue as opposed to get there because you would have to by law you would have to go away from the country ok there are. some. sutures of course applied. was the do to measure difference or probably one of the run of the guth thing about. western system of science incidence openness and so so easy to move from one university to to another and the definitely help in transfer in the knowledge and

the skills and knowledge are and it's it's it's it's one of the king issues more them science well the president did very give when he was speaking well a couple of days ago i think it was the national teacher's day was he was presenting a word to the best teachers in russia he he said a couple of words about year you and the game and he said well it's a pity that those russian guys actually got their prize working hard and he said i would like to see more and more russian scientists working in russia getting the same possibilities the same family advantages and what do you feel the do you share the same concern with our president. i would say to you should you should do it more broadly i should say that the reshoots in the in why it's. back to russia not only russian scientists would be sure the new wide berth scientists. were to

russia and that that includes russian british american samoa ours science it is very different from is international and you always get your war always want to get good busters are the best results are produced by the best people and you cannot rely on one nationality only in lives in this process you have to ask in white people as well the really mentioned result of brain drain from russia is that russian scientists are increasingly until recently cited in world scientific press and in world scientific publications but since all these scientists are now i brought most of them are brought doesn't mean that the younger generation of russian scientists would may not be as successful as

you are. two points across toward north all blue russian side has a broad there are huge number of front passing through a good scientists who work in russia those i totally disagree with you on this point and second as a said already exchange of scientists is not about things that are absolutely normal practice brain drain is nor is not about the the berthing is there but there is no a real us promises that scientists are coming back to russia and so you should be sure russia got past think school of science you should share it with the war the two also have to get something back from the war and we need to unwired best the best people and i don't think that. to hear. that in the russian government the kremlin has been pretty much obsessed by nana to phonology over the last couple of years and many people a journalist have been producer casting

a bear and now this obsession with nanotechnology do you think that investing into nanotechnology is really the right thing to do for the russian government today. oh i guess you probably misread all this all this initiative. you always need i be a flag and i called the the main idea behind this is true and while it's true in the west through technology in general and we correct things over it will be absolutely wrong of course to invest into knowledge and knowledge and forget the country microbes ignores you and forget about better teacher cannot which are. concentrate only on the time minus nine and profits. so what you invest in college as long as it was with some sounds is is

a perfectly good idea e you said that year didn't even know the for the tell minutes ago the amount of the money you'll get with a nobel prize that means that you are not at all interested in money and in business nature you are not at all you and your colleagues are not at all interested in the commercial they use or graphene of putting it into is into will rely think of gadgets and whatever. well look what. you cannot tell it's for or so for my colleagues who have promised you loons who own companies which are we produce griffin who have nothing to lose the day those companies do do exist so some of my good friends and colleagues they do have some interest in in business. we're interested in having a good time in the lab. if it involves the creation new type or would you watch

us from from griffin we would do it so we christians we produced a prototype of liquid crystal display made of when we had a lot of graphene bart you are absolutely right it will do very extremely very boring for me to sit for it here and try and sue. for two twin waivers this device works slightly better that would be to work for me but that's an important part of the of jobs and a you mentioned spending time having good time in their land which when she said is that it is reasonable to really prefer intellect tell us about it what is having a good time with your friends and the lab what do you do what do you mean by having a good time in the lab. ok don't take your own or. write like picking up squash table and making make in first examples of graphene

that's a fantastic time. making some new title devices that's a composite of for me the best one is a device which you can produce within the day you just got an idea where you will produce a divisor and you measure it in the. it's the best one. any interested in arguments any unusual that's having a good time. constantin this graphene as far as i understand it is a unique unique to the material a material with unique qualities is it really unique is it one of a kind or there may be other materials with similar or even better qualities yet to come yet to be invented. oh yes absolutely that's and i'm a little bit concerned of all this but we are so so much concentration on griffin i

really would like to to would go a little bit broaden our words a griffin by itself already gives us so much fun that it's hard to. go somewhere else but i'm sure and probably we would suspect how to do it there are other materials there reads worse similar interests and probably since well russian kids have have lots of sellotape and we call a scotch well they're well well whatever so we're where do we have to look for these new materials you said it made the other the graffiti with it what it is what does this do we have to look for it while we can you can think about conventions of graphene and something else and that would that would produce you a new material and just put into graphemes would gather on three or three graph infants would gather and that would be a new material or together so there are so instead of using sellotaped to split

grafin you just put a driver you just use on and on the glue if you want to glue it back together so that's just one just i just queer new ideas well last question i have read in the press that the military our old lady getting increasingly interested in your invention have you heard anything about that you think that can that can. this interest from from the side of the military can spoil your life make you live after . well we were gods i know if you guys from from the office of air force research from us and from no research there there were nice guys and we do have funding from from your goal for a conference you you see a toy it's out from from even told that you do the show you a performance of how high frequency transistors and hop on the screen is bland

because they say that it is there is information so yes there is some. drive from one to three as well i say for the wooden fence. classified by the recent. research which is that which is doing more the more mostly by three and its contents you never see all of the russian the russian scientists in manchester in little girl clothes would it that will need something else the coming couple days in buying a cedar wood in town felt please give them a chance to thank you thank you very much for being with us and just reminding us that confronting the result was our guest today. back with more threats than comments on the what's going on in and outside russia until then they are see and take care.