and president obama declared a state of emergency along u.s. eastern seaboard. and the republic of cozumel looks to its newly elected president to rebuild the nation's economy which lies in ruins after years of struggling to maintain independence that on fobbed will have his hands full as he moves the country through the next five years. that wraps up our main stories this hour up next we meet the russian captain who saved all the passengers on his plane when its engines failed in mid air spotlight is up next. hello again i was going to spotlight. today my guest is. six years ago two russian scientists in manchester discovered

a revolutionary material called. last week they were awarded a nobel prize in physics for what is likely to lucian ice. today. are packing their bags to collect their million pounds. is joining us via satellite link from england. born in russia is thinking of us all of us father was an engineer while his mother was a teacher after graduating with honors from the moscow physical technical university started work at a scientific research center in the in moscow two years later he moved to the netherlands way he met another russian scientist on drug game and whose guidance he continues to work the do physicists later moved to the university of manchester in the u.k. to continue their research six years ago no less so a fun game discovered graffiti for which they were awarded the euro physics prize

there to receive the world's most prestigious scientific award the nobel prize for producing graphene which can rival silicon as a basis of computer chips so perhaps there's sense in letting silicon valley stay american but making griffin valley a more russian creation at skolkovo. welcome to the show thank you very much for being with us. first of all have you already got yourself a tuxedo maybe you got one. i know of too much too many of our other problems. but. i would i would appreciate them advice ok. well the russian government as far as you know i'm sure is attempting to create a sort of a silicon valley here outside moscow well do you think it may be a better idea now to to to create

a new graphene value rather than silicon valley. from a graffiti is of called the a priority of words silicon really would be you would be quite we would you would know you have published a paper describing. describing your your your invention your work well five years ago right so. far five years what have you been doing since what will you now with your research is it another good scene or is something else that horse that was only the beginning what we showed in that paper is that we can produce this the material apparently. this material got so many from passing properties that we were still stellar in for the last six years i guess we're going to start it or people whose are going to study twelve for the next ten twenty or you or you one more years or so so you still are working on graphene and the same on the

serious subject you're so so you know moving you're not moving i'd be measured if i were from the subject. on one fortune can order and the main problem is that i guess the most interesting experiment is still had a farce and of course this prize really. brings us a little bit behind on this in this rush so to get to those were nice expounds can you tell us what is this most. made experiment frankly speaking for every single research. might be their own type of experiments because this this material or has a number of very different but very interesting properties the mechanical properties the optical properties the. electronic properties for me is the combination between mechanical and electronic properties which are the most

interesting constantin you easier said than a minute ago that you were in this in this paper of yours for which you got the nobel prize you said that you said i quote we can produce griffin but as far as i know you are not producing anything or you are interested in production or you just interested in research. while we do research on this material bugs in order to start our experiments we need to produce those samples first so of course the sample production the production of all this material is quite a port and very often the most important parts or for our research you said that you have to produce enough material for your research but one of your colleagues in the united kingdom i quote said in this age of complexity with the machines like the super collider these guys managed to get the nobel prize using

just sellotape so. is it true did you really that's. yes that's absolutely true and furthermore i guess a shipper sounds good eighty percent of researchers across the world who do graffiti and it's actually it's a it's a huge subject you know they they still use this. methods which you introduce introduced in two thousand and four and you also still use sellotape in your results yes. in most cases yes and like it in greek. you have a year year do you have enough sellotape now or you still do you still have to do to pick pipit pick it out out of garbage beds room got an exclusive supply from a few companies ok now. why are you called garbage scientists you

know this label garbage scientists is it is it really because beer because you you pulled your first samples are the garbage bin or what is it. yes probably and i totally don't don't don't come although nobody tells those brave enough to say to me two twenty phrases. totally are totally fine who is being called like this and so it's an interesting story we were gods and indeed rooted our colleague electioneering who was working with at the time. during experiments on the way how he played in graphite in the throw in this cellar table with pieces of is a sort of graphite into the bin and basically what we've done we've picked the top and. made our first samples from from last that so so you don't regard this next day mad as being insulting to you know absolutely no i don't i don't care how

people call in ok now can you tell us when did you realize that what you were doing is really a revolution in physics did you ever realise it. well. you see we are quite lucky you know. we can't afford to work result thinking about producing a aleutian physics we can't afford to work just because we were really really like it and already the very first experiments are true we wish we had done it was was those samples made from those first tapes we realize that we have something extremely interesting in our hands and it took us to probably easier or you would more to god's the fields graph and samples bods the interesting

physics that we can see in the very. first experiments ok how many people except you and gave contributed to this graphene research because as far as i know usually one or two people get the nobel prize but actually it's a it's a company of like dozens of people is that the case with here. oh yes here i was in that it was a pool of great researchers of fantastic people who were doing those first experiments you see i don't think that. the prize is due in just on the merits of the one experiment so rouer doing very interesting physics over the over the whole all over the years. in that we we actually i especially want to think the morals of you know your who've been working with us for for quite a long time and. also have a great pool of from tustin ph d.

students and paul's dogs who from all over the world with us but this this science is no. this this this area so vast now that we rely you know experiments not on the on the on our results we do rely on the results of all the community and it is you know it consists of probably hundreds of labs across the world so are you going to split the million quid you he going to get it yet is that. well it's million dollars larry i i'm sort of so busy at the moment i didn't know or thought it's. thought about this and really come hard here ok you are teacher and now your colleague andrew again said i quote that graphene has all the potential to change our life the same way plastics did in the twentieth century so do you think that the twenty

first century will be there the the age of growth feed the age of game and know myself. oh yeah absolutely they're feeling changed our lives come completely dramatically so we've had fantastic time over the last years and we arrived to this small one which is which is quite good as well but seriously i think it's. it does have a great world potential we still don't realize. how large is this potential i don't want to speculate about a place in silicon or was with graffiti there are far too small can complicated questions that. we as a said already there are quite a few properties of this material which are unique the mechanical up to code

electronic and it's refined it's applications. constantin the us sold off the nobel prize winner in physics this year spotlight will be back shortly right after the break so stay with us down to. twenty years ago the largest country in the world to serve to a suitable. place had been trying. to teach began the journey. where did it take them. nearly a billion people in the world for knowing hungry every day. in the united states even our trash cans are filled with food you just have to go get it all of these

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and find out what's really happening to the global economy for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines to name two kinds of reports on r.t. . welcome back to spotlight on al gore now and just to remind you that my guests today via satellite link from from manchester is constantine not mysel of the man who was awarded a nobel prize in physics this year. consensus well i know that you both see you here andrei game the colleagues you have just mentioned telling us about your team most of them are russians and i know that you even work at the so-called russian floor at the inverse of manchester although by the trees all that by russians so you are a british citizens game as is

a dutch citizen but do consider yourself still too good to be russian or or british where i don't know european a what. do you think oh. i definitely consider myself russian. emerges well and we of a lot to russian education to stare. and sounds absolutely. but you chose to go to continue your work in england because what. because the university you're in now gives you more research possibilities what else what if you compare well you already said in a couple of interviews that that the russian system of training in physics is the best in the world but after you're trained compare russian and european british what are the differences. first of all let me let me tell you that it is

absolutely normal practice that scientists go from one lab to another to learn different techniques and obtain different skills i can tell you that if you got ph d. in holland for instance he was be able to continue as a polls dog because you would have to while or you would have to go away from the country ok there are some some some some researchers of course applied. was the to the major difference or probably one of the one of the good things for me about . western system of science is its openness and so so easy to move from one university to to another and definitely help in transfer in of the knowledge of the skills and the technology and it's it's it's it's one of

the key issues in a more them science well president medvedev when he was speaking well a couple of days ago i think it was the national teacher's day was he was presenting awards to the best teachers in russia he he said a couple of words about you you and the game and he said well it's a pity that those russian guys actually got their prize working abroad and he said i would like to see more and more russian scientists working in russia getting the same possibilities the same funny advantages and what do you feel the do you share the same concern with our president. i would say that did you should you should do it more broadly i should say that. in the in wired's back to russia not only russian scientists but we should in the wide the best scientists. back to russia and that that includes russian british american who else

science is very different nation is international and you always got a war always want to get the best result and the best results are produced by the best people and you come in through lie on one nationality only in this in this process you have to you master in white the bastion for us well the really mentioned result of brain drain from russia is that russian scientists are increasingly uncritically sighted in world scientific press and in world scientific publications but since all these scientists and now abroad most of them are abroad does it mean that the younger generation of russian scientists would may not be as successful as you are. two points trust toward nords all the russian side is broad there are huge number of from past including good scientists who work in

russia that's i totally disagree with you on this point and second as i said already exchange of scientists is not about things that's absolutely normal practice brain drain is nor is not of wealth in the berthing is the is no a real us promises that scientists are coming back to russia and shoot to be sure russia got a fantastic school of science we should share it with the war but we also have to get something back from the war and we need to unwind best the best people and i don't think that nationality makes a big issue here constantin the russian government the kremlin has been pretty much obsessed by nana technologies over the last couple of years and many people a journalist has been pretty sort of casting at there about this obsession with nana to tell gee do you think that investing into nanotechnology is really the

right thing to do for the russian government today. well i guess as you probably misread all this all this initiative. you always need a big flag and i call the the main idea behind this is it is to invest to technology in general and it's the correct things it will be absolutely wrong of course to invest into knowledge and knowledge and forget completely about micro technology and forgets about it at a team took knowledge and concentrate only about on this ten minus nine preference . so invest in into college as long as it was was some sound is a perfectly good idea e you said that she didn't even know the for the ten minutes ago the amount of the

money will get within the prize that that means that you are not at all interested in money and in business nature you are not at all you and your colleagues are not at all interested in the commercial they use of graphene of putting it into is into well real life into gadgets and whatever. well look what. you cannot tell it's for also for my colleagues who have students who own companies which are we produce graphene who have nothing to do is that they those companies do do exist so some of my good friends and colleagues they do have some interest in the in business. we're interested in having a good time in the lab. if it involves creation new type of devices from from graffiti we will do it so we are since we produced

a prototype of liquid crystal display made of men we had over head of graphene bought you are absolutely right it will be very extremely very boring for me to sit for here and try and sue. to make this this device work slightly better that will be towards women but that's an important part of or of jobs and a you mentioned spending time having good time in the land which we should say it is that it is natural really written for her for in life tell us about it what is having a good time with your friends in the lab what do you do what do you mean by having a good time in the lab. ok don't take your honor. like picking up squash table and making make in first examples of graphene that's fantastic time. making some new type of devices there's a fantastic of for me the best one is

a device which you can produce. in the day you just got an idea where you will produce a device and you measure it in the rain that's the best one. and. any interest in arguments any unusual having a good time for us constantin this graphene as far as aniston is a unique unique two d. material a material with unique qualities is it really unique is it one of the kind or there may be other materials with similar or even better qualities yet to come yet to be invented. oh yes absolutely that's and i'm a little bit concerned about this but we are so so much concentration on griffin i really would like to to look a little bit broader now but even the grafin by itself already it's gives us so

much fun that it's hard to. go somewhere else but i'm sure and probably we would suspect how to do it there are other materials there reads worse similar interests and problems as well russian kids have have lots of sellotape and we call scotch well they're well well whatever so we're where do we have to look for these new materials you said it may be other than graffiti which it what it is what does this do we have to look for it while we can you can think about combinations of graphene and some signals and that will produce you a new material and like just put into a graph into gather on three or three rough interns who gather the it will be a new material or together so there are so instead of using sellotaped to split grafin you just put put it back or you just use some nama glue if you want to glue

it back together so that's just one not just i just corrine you ideas well last question i have read in the press that the military are already getting increasingly interested in your intervention have you heard anything about that do you think that can that get. this interest from from the side of the military can spoil your life make your life after. we were gods i know if you guys from from the office of air force us and from no research to the robber were nice guys and we do have funding from from them your goal for a conference you you see a top top from from even told they did the show you a performance of high frequency but in this instance and half of the screen is blank because the say that it is its information so yes there is some.

drive from. as well i hate for that is this. classified by. the recent about officer issues which is driven more than most and by nearly three in the it can sense you never see all of the russian russian scientists in manchester and no good guys would it that will need some of. these coming couple of days inviting us to see their we in town so please give the time to those that can thank you very much for being with us and just a reminder that there are plenty in the myself was our guest today and we'll be back with more press than comments on what's going on in and outside russia until then stay and party and take care.

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