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again they're welcome to spotlight. i'm not going today my guess is. six years ago two russian scientists in manchester discovered a revolutionary material called graphene last week they were awarded a nobel prize in physics for what is likely to revolutionize. today again another cell of our packing their bags to collect their million pounds. is joining us via satellite link from england. born in russia is thinking of us all a squatter was an engineer while his mother was a teacher after graduating with honors from the law school physical technical university started work at

a scientific research center in may in moscow two years later he moved to the netherlands breaking that another russian scientist and drug game under his guidance he continues to work on the physicists later moved to the university of manchester and then k. to continue their research six years ago no a silicon game discovered the theme for which they were awarded a physics prize there to receive the world's most prestigious scientific word the nobel prize for producing the fiendish to rival silicon as appraises of computer chips so they have their sense and i think silicon valley stay american but making valley a more russian creation and spoke about. clovis to the soul of welcome to the show thank you very much for being with us. pleasure . first of all have you already got yourself a tuxedo all media got one. too much too many or are the problems

mostly other but. i would i would appreciate. a midwife ok. well the russian government as far as you know i'm sure he is attempting to create a sort of a silicon valley here outside moscow well do you think it's maybe a better idea now to to to create a new graphene value rather than a silicon valley. when we refuse of called the priority of lords silicon valley would be you would be quite we would be you know you have published a paper describing. describing your your your invention your work well five years ago right so. far five years what have you been doing since a good well you now with your research isn't all good theory or something else that was that was only. what we showed in their paper is that we can produce

this material apparently. this material got so many from passing properties that we were still father in for the last six years i guess we're going to started or people go into started for the next ten twenty or you or you one more years or so so you still are working on graphene and the same on the serious subject here so so you know you're living here you're not moving to be measured if i were from the subject. i'm one fortunately norther and the main problem is that i guess the most interesting experiment is still ahead of us and of course this prize really. brings us a little bit behind on this in this rush to get to those who are nice and surround can you tell us what is this most like that made experiment frankly speaking for

every single researcher can i be there the type of experiments because this this material or has a number of very different but where even the central property of the mechanical property is the optical properties of the. electronic problems for me is the combination between the mechanical. properties which are the most interest and concern should you use your seven minutes ago that you were in this in this paper of your is for which you got the nobel prize you said that you said i quote we can produce a good thing but as far as i know you know not producing anything or you are interested in production or you just interested in research. while we do research on this material words you know the star our experiments we need to produce those samples first so of course the sample production we production of all of this material is quite

a quarter of them. very often the north important parts for our research you said that you have to produce enough material for your research but one of your colleagues in the united kingdom i quote said in this age of complexity with the machines like the super collider these guys managed to get the nobel prize using just sellotape so. is it true did you really that's. yes that's absolutely true and furthermore i guess a shipper sounds good at eighty percent of researchers across the world who do graffiti and it's actually it's a clear wish subject now they do they still use this sort of tape and methods which you introduce introduced in two thousand and four and you also still use sellotape in your associates. in most cases yes and don't like it in.

your head a year do you have enough sellotape now are you still. you still have your typical picket out out of garbage beds. government's clues of supply from a few companies ok now. why are you called garbage scientists you know this label guard these scientists is it is it really because we're because you you called your first samples out of the garbage bin or what is it. yes probably and i totally don't go on the internet although nobody tells the brave enough to say to me it's once more a phase we're totally on totally fine was being very cold like this and so it's an interesting story we were we gods and indeed. our colleague election years and who

was working with us at the time. doing experiments on the way how he cleaned graphite in the throw in this cell a table with pieces of business or graphite into the bin and basically what we've done we've picked the top and. made our first samples from from last night so so you don't regard this nickname as being insulting here you know absolutely my daughter along whole or people call and you know can you tell us when did you realize that what you were doing is really a river lucian in physics did you ever realizing it. well. you see we are quite lucky you know. we can't afford to work result thinking about producing a aleutian physics we can't afford to work just because we we really really like it and already the very first experiments which we wish for

a dummy with those samples made from those first tapes we realize that we have something extremely interesting in our hands. you took us to probably easier or you would more to get to because russian samples bods the interest in physics and we can see in the very. first experiments how many people except you end game contributed to this laughing research because as far as i know usually one or two people get the nobel prize that actually it's a it's a company of like dozens of people is it the case with here. oh yes i was that it was proof great researchers of fantastic people who are doing those first experiment of you see i don't think that. prize is given just on the merits of the one experiments

a ruler doing very interesting physics or would be over the whole all over the years. in that we we. especially want to think it should be more of an integral or we've been working with us for for quite a long time and. also have a great pool of plastic creationist humans on poles dogs from all over the world with us but this science is no. it is this the scariest so vast now that we realize you know as far as not on the on the on our results will we rely on the results of the community and it is you know it consists of probably hundreds of labs across the world so are you going to split the million quid you he going to get it get is that on. well. it's million

honestly i i'm sold. at the moment i didn't know or thought. but i thought about this and really i'm hardly. you're your teacher and now your colleague andrew again said i quote that griffin has all the potential to change our life the same way plastics did in the twentieth century so do you think that the twenty first century will be there the age of growth feed the age of game and no a sort of. oh yeah absolutely griffin changed our lives completely for a bicycle so we've had some plastic time over the last few years and when we arrived this morning which is which is quite good as well but seriously i think if . it does have a grade for potential we still don't realize. how large of this planet show

i don't want to speculate about a place in silicon or with griffin there are far more complicated questions that. as i said already there are quite a few properties of this material which we are unique it's mechanical up to code electronics and if you find it it's not like asians because of the nobel prize winner in physics case here spotlights will be back shortly right after the break so stay with them.

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welcome back to spotlight on al going up in just a reminder that my guests today via satellite link from from manchester is constantin number still of the man who was awarded a nobel prize in physics this year. consensus well i know that you both you he you andray game and the colleagues you have just mentioned and telling us about at about fifteen most of them are russians and i know that you even work at the so-called russian floor i have the inverse steve manchester although why are trees all that by russians so you are a british citizens game is a dutch citizen but consider yourself still too good to be russian or or british were i don't know european awhile. do you think i i definitely consider myself

russian. and british as well. of a lot to russian education or history or. science absolutely. but you chose to go to continue your work in england because what. because the university you're in now gives you more research possibilities what else what if you compare oh you already said in a couple of interviews that that the russian system of training in physics is the best in the world but after you trained compare russian and european british what are the differences. first of all let me. tell you that it is absolutely normal practice that scientists go from one lab to another to learn different techniques and obtain different skills i can tell you that if you go out. in holland for instance you want to be able to continue as

a polls because you would have to by law you would have to go away from the country where there are some some some. sense of cause applied. was the measure of difference or probably one of the one of the good thing about woods. western system of science is its openness and so so easy to move from one universe into two to another and the phone can help in france for in the knowledge of the skills and the deployed and it's it's it's it's one of the key issues even with them science well president medvedev when he was speaking well a couple of days ago i think it was the national teachers day was he was presenting awards the best teachers in russia he he said a couple of years ago you you and again many said well it's

a pity that those russian guys actually got their prize working here have ron and he said i would like to see more and more russian scientists working in russia getting the same possibilities the same family advantages and well do you feel the do you share the same concern with our president. i would say that's good you should you should do it more broadly oceans headed. in the in wide. back to russia not only russian scientists but we should in the wild west scientists so. both russia and that includes russian british american who know our us science is very different nation is international and you always get a war always want to get the western result and the best results are produced by the best people and you cannot rely on one mission elegy only in this in this

process you have to unwind the best you frauds while the really mentioned results of brain drain from russia is that russian scientists are increasingly only cited in world scientific press and in world scientific publications what since all these scientists to now have brought most of them are abroad doesn't mean that the younger generation of russian scientists would may not be as successful as you are. two points just toward north all the russian side is broad there are huge number of from cast in fairly good scientists who work in russia that's i totally disagree with you on this point and second as i said already exchange of scientists is not about things that's absolutely nor practice brain

drain is nor is not about the thing is that there is no a real us the process that scientists are coming back to russia and shooting to shoot russia go to a fantastic school of science we should share it with the war but we also have to get science and work from the war and we need to unwind best the best people and i don't think the mission makes a big issue here. in the russian government the kremlin has been pretty much obsessed by nanotechnology over the last couple of years and many people a journalist has been pretty certain asked dick and there and now this obsession with nanotechnology do you think that investing into nanotechnology is really the right thing to do for the russian government today. oh i guess you probably mean three and all this all this initiative. you always need a big flag and i called the the main idea behind this is true and while it's true

in the us to technology in general and it's the correct things it will be absolutely wrong of course to invest into knowledge and knowledge and forget completely avoids microbes and forgot about. her and concentrate only about on the ten minus nine the profits. so invest in. as long as it was was some science is is a perfectly good idea you said that she didn't even know before the ten minutes ago the amount of the money you'll get with the nobel prize that that means that you're not at all interested in money and in business there sure you are not at all you and your colleagues are not at all interested in the commercial a use of grass seed of putting it into he into gold real life into gadgets and

whatever. well look what. just all we cannot tell it's from also from my colleagues who have students who are on companies which are we produce griffin who are muslims who is there they know those companies do do exist so some of my good friends and colleagues they do have some interest in in business. we are interested in having a good time in the loud. if it involves creation a new type or would you watch us from from griffin we would do it so we have her since we produced a prototype of liquid crystal display made of men we had over heard of graphene bards you are absolutely right how it would be very extremely very boring for me to sit for a here and try and sue. to one way because this device works slightly better than

for me toward me but that's an important part of the of the job someday you mentioned spending time having good simon the land which we should say is that it is natural really prefer in life tell us about it what is having a good time with your friends in the lab what do you do what do you mean that having a good time in the lab. ok don't take your own or. like picking up squash to. make in first examples of graphene that's a fantastic time. making some new type of device is the composite of four for me the best one is a device which you can produce was in the day you just got an idea where you will produce a device and you measure it. it's the best one. and. any

interested in arguments any unusual that's having a good time. constantin this graphene as far as i understand is as a unique unique two d. material a material with unique qualities is it really unique is it one of a kind or there may be other materials with similar or even better qualities yet to come yet to be invented. oh yes absolutely that's and i'm a little bit concerned about this but we are so so much concentration on griffin i really would like to to look a little bit broaden our boates griffin by itself already that he gives us so much fun the. tool to stop and go somewhere else but i'm sure and probably we will suspect how to do it there are other materials there reads worse similar interesting problems as well russian kids have have lots of sellotape

and we cause scotch one of their well whatever so we're where do we have to look for these new materials you said it made the other the graffiti where it what it is what does this do we have to look for it well we can think about combinations of graphene and something else and that would that would produce you a new material or. just put into food rations would gather on three or three rough infants would gather and the will be a new material or together so there are instead of using. to split grafin you just put up with a drug for you just use some nama glue if you want to work together so that's just one not just i just corrine you ideas well last question i have read in the press that the military already getting increasingly interested in your

intervention have you heard anything about that do you think that can that get. this interest from from the side of the military can spoil your life make your life argo. now we were gods i know if you guys from from the office of air force us and from and they all researched there were nice guys and we do have funding from from down you goal for a conference you you see a top top from from even told they do the show you a performance of high frequency consists. of the screen is bland because they say that it is restricted information so yes there is some sound drive from the three as well i hate what it is and has. to fight. the recent bout of her situation which is doing more than mostly by me three in the

it concerns you never sell of a russian a russian scientist in manchester and no good guys would it that will need something else a curious things coming couple days it buying a ticket speedo in town felt please give them a chance to thank you thank you very much for being with us and just remind us that the fans in the us so it was our guest today and. will be back with more press than comments on what's going on in and outside russia until then stay and party and take care.

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