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over siberia the progress of the vessel was carrying supplies to the international space station when it plummeted back to earth shortly after launch. now it's the second part of our feature on the capital punishment debate in the u.s. as we meet the family of a sixteen year old boy who was executed in one thousand nine hundred. sister debbie lives not far from the penitentiary town she too used to take care of her nephew quite a lot when volunteer was out on the road the well i'm laura knew her well. were offered it could be anyone. you know we'd be in rock there with bales you know because it's. the payback it's been since you know

whatever but when it's someone that that you care about. and you did the same you have more than one thank you. and it's mixed emotions it's it's unexplainable. it's sad. it's. called for. some waste. he was the last. part of me. and my sister in. his car. he was the last this or child and she's gone now he's gone now they're all.

in that society so do i feel responsible for helping in his execution yeah. do i feel bad about it you know now do i feel bad for the greeting the jim and and. gabby went through yeah i feel sorry for their loss i do i feel horrible they lost in warden idea. they lost vondra and sean i just lost my father and they lose more you bet grandfather jim jones and debbie refused to come to the execution on february fourth one thousand nine hundred nine about six minutes to die.

i don't know what i thought. i saw an end. person. because i didn't want to. but i was still angry. and i have great remorse sometimes for us most of the time i'm not thinking about it it's done it's done deal done and over the years i've not had to worry it's what is just as nap and what if it gets out and gets up and i worry about

things that just i had no worries chain years closure. the only ones present a chance execution that night there were also those who have tried to save him. think. jones execution left

scars on his lawyer steve presson. steve still lives in the little town of norman near oklahoma city. specializing in final appeals and taken damaged he has lost eleven of them and he has defended and succeeded in saving only two of them. and was here so many people who support the death penalty say well as part of our system we have a well the only reason that we haven't is part of this of the system is because they won't act to change it and they they support the system and it's wrong and they don't know why it's so they don't know first hand. or even second you know what. a horrible. process it is.

i don't know when told one of their own family members has to go through it and then suddenly there. they see everything wrong with. that case and others that i've done but seans because i was pretty close to home. destroyed my faith in the american legal system before doing death row cases i had the highest confidence in our courts and our law enforcement because you know i was a cop for ten years. and i practiced civil law and i worked in the courts on i thought that things were good and far and it was seeing the machinery of the state moving so venomously. and very minutely against these people on death row to extinguish their lives and ignoring good evidence and ignoring constitutional violations.

and that just took it out of me. maybe it's maybe better i'm burned out. i really dislike the system i dislike being a lawyer. but it's that. steve no longer attends the executions. many people in oklahoma claim that the executions are humane and painless. i'm heading to mcallister in the eastern part of the state where the penitentiary is located to find the man who executed shown sellers. in oklahoma the prison

guards carry out the death sentences. the simplest way is to run an ad in the local newspaper looking for officers who participated in the execution. i have no problem there are. you know i'm ever shot seller because he was the first guy that actually he was not an adult at the time and i was working on my first jamie jamie. thank you know sean.

oh for quite a while i remember that exchange. when i want to flash bangs and here she. was involved in all morning. house involved in approximately fifty two extraction. process not least sixty execution of. fred cook who was in charge of sean's execution his father also executed prisoners and the electric chair fred is retired now

but about johnny and then and he would yes ok maybe he had but i mean you know he is guilty he he done it day one no two ways of bad it and. so i say interesting today if and we can't be mown death row nto such damage it was time to execute him and we. want to make them think that there were they know. they don't have good omen well they know who waved rabbit and so did crawl up on paper. what was going through songs mind during his final moments. when an execution takes place really thought sudden says are injected from this room through these holes in the wall the state recruits three citizens to carry out this task the law

guarantees that they remain anonymous. during the entire execution only the guards are in direct contact with the condemned prisoners. tim guarded the inmates during their final hours. lane was one of the guards that would strap them to the gurney. dark as well. jane would bring the lethal chemicals and see that the execution ran smoothly. fred the oldest planned the procedure.

eight nine minutes before the execution is scheduled we're moving from. a sale take humans out execution chamber with a payment of six. zero observer is trained off when they first come out of the so they have as look on all your thirty four if you've known for twenty years a long time here was look at. this belief that you're going to be one of them that's going to walk i'm in there you know here and you know legard he ain't a golden or a like i'm in they wish it was somebody else you wish it was somebody else. i guess if you walk a motor the gurney they look at you because they don't know they've never done this before there is a sense of stress with every nervousness. as

far as you know i same one individual that once they entered the door to the chamber the nerves got to him so bad that they became weak in any case you know they just kind of and was tracked down famous for a step and grabbed him by the arm and you know just held him up and assisted him on to the gurney and they look at you like for some direction you know sort of on the way on the gurney and they look at you know like you can you know have coma sort of until we heard people had. you know. get up there and what would you want we do you know what would you lay out here. with your arms. and no ask why are you doing the . film thank you nancy i'm just going to keep doing it and let you know i'm strapped down and they look at you you know i've had a look at everything. they want to say by. just a look at i know i've just i would look at him and i would look at soames i don't

want. some i'm crying some i'm go point towards say let the extinction began before he says that he waits a little bit and that way if war of the governor in case the governor call because that was bastille no way that you should give me start if the governor calls at that point and at that family or start administering the drug system you have that moment of time to think you know i talk about individual forty five minutes ago when individuals. and. it's a humbling experience i mean you. turn is just disbelief you know. because some of them i know for tune twelve fourteen year. you will never forget about it you think about it until the day you know. headed for action and how can that not affectionate you're taking some guy even though

he's done something to somebody bit of a center taken some guys stripping down and basically you're put in the mid if because you're part of the whole process of doing it well yeah it bothers me to lose day i am not married i wake up waiting i wake up with herbal nightmares that they won't do no good to tell you because you wouldn't understand it unless you've been there. twelve years after the execution of sawn sellers i met only one participant of a story who didn't seem to have the slightest doubts.

this is oklahoma county's district attorney the man who demands of the death sentence for sean. macey held office for close to twenty five years he is known in the us for being the d.a. who has obtained the most death sentences around sixty. macy always claimed that the death sentence has a dissuasive effect and he reiterated that opinion during sean's trial. this may not be the best way to stop the killing but it's the only way i know and i think these jurors are saying look if you go and you kill three people in this can't really give you the death penalty that hopefully somebody else will. do. the

district attorney's arguments always have the backing of the public. mazie the onion olding da is now retired and lives on his farm a few miles from oklahoma city. and how you're missing the executions of. what huh on a horse my son's nose not much you know was of the prosecutor from bring the charges present past our lives in our usual lives and. i don't like. satisfaction or joy. so here's some news. hopefully.

i'm on a lot of the law enforcement people would agree that he lives i believe her and the other lives and of lives needs just as you say you hope that it is a deterrent and so it is not proven oil have you. no where i know of for you when you stop someone who's not. a much feared district attorney who has never witnessed a single execution now admits that there has never been any perth's that the death penalty has a dissuasive effect on criminality. the facts are very in the twelve years since sean's execution oklahoma's crime rate has not decreased.

rather than zero or oh boy who cried his own who was not present especially directly to young women and children and. i can explain to you avoids having how many of the current problems are very horrible crimes i don't know how to explain. one for i would say had several cases one of those county were or friend her husband's as wife's the baby against a wall and i don't want to live. the person could do that until a baby. arrives that we're dealing with i don't rehabilitate so we're. rather think you committed these horrible horrible crimes. i was beyond

redemption how do you teach somebody thought. and that's a only answer ah no. his. people only true there would become losers.

eat. the. meat. meat. fish eat eat eat eat was the ticket out of it. for many citizens of oklahoma the bible offers an irrefutable justification for the death penalty particularly the verses which are subject to widely differing interpretations about an eye for an eye a tooth for a turf pastor don't duncan accompanied sean for many other prisoners both men and women in the final moments now he no longer carries out this mission. does that scripture justify what we're doing today. now are we

doing it today. because we like punishing people in our life it's been it's been eight years now and now confining talk about fully talk about what i've had. i don't. do our regret no i help the person not that i was in favor of putting that person to bed nothing was going to stop that i was there to help that person and not if i was i would minister to the person i would talk to them i cannot do this any longer i can't put words in god's mouth but i don't think you would want the death penalty i think he would want us to share a laugh and how to have

a laugh and cry asked. do you believe in god or. do you fear his judgment. or well more so human race. and so on rushmore him. i think as a chance that god is against death penalty. six

years after sean's execution the supreme court at long last ruled against capital punishment for minors. today three thousand three hundred prisoners are waiting on death row throughout the united states. in oklahoma the mortal remains not claimed by family are buried in the little cemetery in front of the penitentiary.

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