and supplies to the international space station when it wanted it back to earth shortly after launch and now it's the second part of our feature on the capital punishment debate in the us as we meet the family of a sixteen year old boy who was executed in one thousand nine hundred nine. sister debbie lives not far from the penitentiary town she too used to take care of her nephew quite a lot when volatile was out on the road noel and laura knew her well. we're all for justice if it be anyone arabs you know we've been rock there with bells you know ringing it because it's payback it's been it's it's you know whatever but when it's someone that that you have and you care about and

you did the same you know for the one they kill. it's mixed emotions it's it's unexplainable. it's sad and. it's. it's. uncalled for. so waste. he was the last it's. a part of me. and my sister in his car. he was my sister's child she's gone now he's gone now they're all. in that these. do i feel

responsible for helping in fusion yeah. do i feel bad about it you know. now do i feel bad for the grieving the jim and. debbie went through yes. i feel sorry for their loss do i feel. they lost more than i did they lost vonda and sean i just lost my father did they lose more you bet grandfather jim debbie refused to come to the execution on february fourth one thousand nine hundred nine sean took about six minutes to die.

i don't know what i saw. i saw a. person i tried not to think about that because i didn't want to think about it but i was so angry i still wanted it to go . and i have great remorse sometimes for. most of the thinking about it it's gone done deal don king years had to worry. what is just as nap and what if he gets out of the kids out the mayor worry about that good job. i had no worries teen years done closure.

lorna know well we're not be only ones present a chance execution that night there were also those who had tried to save him. jones execution left scars on his lawyer steve press and.

began to. steam still lives in the little town of norman near oklahoma city. specializing in final appeals of the condemned he has lost eleven of them and he has defended and succeeded in saving only two of them. and we hear so many people who support the death penalty saying well it's part of our system we have it. the only reason that we have it as part of the system is because they act to change it and they they support the system and it's wrong and they don't know why it's so they don't know first hand. or even second you know what. a horrible. process it is. i don't know until one of their own family members has to go through it and suddenly there are. they see everything wrong with. that case and

others that i've done but shawn's because i was pretty close to. destroyed my faith in the american legal system before doing death row cases i had the highest confidence in our courts in our law enforcement because i was a cop for ten years. and i practiced civil law and i worked in the courts and i thought that things were good and far and it was seeing the machinery of the state moving so venomously. vemma not only against these people on death row two to extinguish their lives and ignoring good evidence and ignoring constitutional violations. that just took it out of me. made me it's made me bitter i'm burned out. i really

dislike the system i dislike being a lawyer. that's what it is that. steve no longer attends the executions. many people in oklahoma claim that the executions are humane and painless. i'm heading to mcallister in the eastern part of the state where the penitentiary is located to find the man who executed shown sellers. in oklahoma the prison guards carry out the death sentences.

the simplest way is to run an ad in the local newspaper looking for officers who participated in the execution. problem or. you know a member shontelle or because he was a party guy that actually he was not adult that would. work better when you first jamie jamie. no shon. thought of while remembering that exchange. with twenty flash bangs.

was involved in all morning. i was involved in approximately fifty two executions. proximately sixty execution. fred cooke who was in charge of sean's execution his father also executed prisoners in the electric chair fred is retired now but brought johnny and then and he was just

a key had big big oh he had but i mean you know he is guilty he he done it they were no two ways of bad it and. so i say interesting that they if and we kept him on death row nto such time as it was time to execute him and then we executed once they come through that though were they no good. they don't have to get on that day will they no two ways about it and so there it is crawl up on title. what was going through sean's mind during his final moments. when an execution takes place. injected from this room through these holes in the wall the state recruits three citizens to carry out this task the law guarantees that they remain anonymous

during the entire execution only the guards are in direct contact with the condemned prisoners. tim guarded the inmates during their final hours. blayne was one of the guards that would strap them to the gurney. dark as well. jane would bring the lethal chemical and see that the execution ran smoothly. for the oldest the procedure. eight nine minutes before the execution is scheduled we're moving from one they say

oh take the men's ad execution chamber with a payment of six. officers restrained all when they first come out of the so they have this look on like i said if you've known him for twenty years and be known for a long time they have this look. disbelief that you're going to be one of them that's going to walk i'm in there. you know legard he anything golden or like a man they wish he was somebody else you wish he was somebody who knows and bias and you walk mokhtar the gurney and they look at you because they don't know they've never done this before there's a sense of. stress maybe nervousness but as far as you know same one individual that once they entered the door to the chamber

the nerves got to him so bad that they became weak in the knees you know they use canada and the strap down team's history step and grabbed him by the arm and you know just held him up in a system on to the gurney and they look at you like for some direction you know certain you lay on the gurney and they look at you like you can you know have come serve and i'm telling people to do that. you know and they get up there in the room where you when we do now you know when would you lay down here put your hand put your arms. and know asked why are you doing that. you can tell nothing you can answer him you just got to keep doing it and once you get him strapped down and they look at you and you know i've had him look at me you know like they want to say bye or say some don't look at him just a would look at him and i would look at so much i don't want anything so mom cries them i'm doubt that point toward oh say let the execution began before he says that

he waits a little bit and that way for the governor in case the governor call then that will that's the only way that the execution could be stopped if the governor calls at that point and at that time they will start administering the drugs into a system you have that moment of time to think you know how to talk to that individual forty five minutes ago that individuals are dead now and. it's a humbling experience i mean you at times just disbelief you know . because some of them i know for ten twelve fourteen year. you'll never forget about it you'll think about it until the day you know. you had fix you how can that not affect you that you're taking some guy you know he's done something to somebody did all this that you're taking some guy and stripping down

in basically you're putting me to death because you're part of the whole process of doing it but yeah it bothers me to this day i have nightmares i wake up waiting i wake up with edible nightmares that he won't do no good to tell you because you would never stand it unless you've been there. twelve years after the execution of sawn sellers i met only one participant of the story who didn't seem to have the slightest doubts.

this is oklahoma county's district attorney the man who demanded the death sentence for sean. he held office for close to twenty five years he is known in the us for being the d.a. who has obtained the most death sentences around sixty. macy always claimed that the death sentence has a dissuasive effect and he reiterated that opinion during sean's trial. this may not be the best way to stop the killing but it's the only way i know and i think these jurors are saying look you go you kill three people in this county we can give you the death penalty that hopefully somebody else will. do. the district attorney's arguments always had the backing of the public.

may see the onion olding d.a. is now retired and lives on his farm a few miles from oklahoma city. have you seen the execution yourself know what. horrors mossad's knows not much of my job as a prosecutor to bring the charges present players who lives in our usual death penalty i don't. satisfaction or joy in. bitterness or law hopefully. model lone wolf the law enforcement people move to agree that he lives only target. goodness and if it isn't it's

just. you say you hope that it is a deterrent it means it is not proven well if we. there's no way i know of for you when you stop someone of news of. the much fear district attorney who has never witnessed a single execution now admits that there has never been any perth's that the death penalty has a dissuasive effect on criminality. the facts are there in the twelve years since sean's execution oklahoma's crime rate has not decreased. right now we're moving away who crime is on who was not present and

especially directed in young women and children and. i can explain to you of wives having america crimes are very horrible crimes i don't know how to explain it. we have seen heard several cases filed in this county where a war friend or husbands smashed a baby against a wall and i don't want to live as a. person could do that until a baby like a crime is that we are dealing with i don't want rehabilitation work i think if you commit these horrible horrible crimes. host beyond redemption

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meat. fish eat eat eat eat it was. the to eat. for many citizens of oklahoma the bible offers an irrefutable justification for the death penalty particularly the verses which are subject to widely differing interpretations about an eye for an eye a tooth for a tourist pastor don't duncan accompanied sean and many other prisoners both men and women in their final moments now he no longer carries out this mission. does that scripture justify what we're doing today not now are we doing it today because we like punishing people in my

life it's been. it's been eight years now and now i can finally talk about fully talk about what i did. do i regret no help the person not that i was in favor of putting that person to death nothing was going to stop that i was there to help that person and so i was i would minister to the person i would talk to them i cannot do this any longer i can't put words in god's mouth but i don't think he would want the death penalty i think he would want us to share law. and how to have life in christ.

do you believe in god. much do you fear his judgment you know why we're so. and so rush or him. using that as a chance that god is against death penalty. six

years after sean's execution the supreme court at long last ruled against capital punishment for minors. today three thousand three hundred prisoners are waiting on death row throughout the united states. in oklahoma the mortal remains not claimed by family are buried in the little cemetery in front of the penitentiary.

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