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tropical storm irene leaves over three million people without power all along the u.s. eastern seaboard as it slams into new york green high winds and heavy downpours. up next is the second part of our two special report on the capital punishment debate in the u.s. and we meet a family of a sixteen year old boy who was executed in one thousand nine hundred nine don't miss it. as sister debbie lives not far from the penitentiary town she too used to take care of her nephew quite low twenty vulgar was out on the road you know well and laura knew her well. were offered just if it had been anyone i. you know we've been rocked there with veils you know ringing it all because it's. payback it's it's it's you know

whatever but when it's someone that that you care about and. you did the same you know for them when they kill. you it's makes them up and it's it's unexplainable. it's sad. and it's. so. uncalled for. and. so wastes. he was the last it's a part of me and my sister and. his car. she's gone now he's gone now they're all. in that society and

you i feel responsible for helping in execution yeah. do i feel bad about it you know now do i feel bad for the grieving the jim and. debbie went through yeah i feel sorry for their loss do i feel world they lost more than i did. they lost vonda and sean i just lost my father and they lose more you bet grandfather jim shawn's and debbie refused to come to the execution on february fourth one thousand nine hundred nine sean took about six minutes to die.

i don't know what i thought. i saw an end. person. i didn't want to. but i was so angry i still wanted it to go. and i had great remorse sometimes for us most of the time. that it's done it's done deal done and over the years i've not had to worry that this one is just as nap and when he gets out it's not that i worry about things

just i had no worries cheney years closure. only ones present at sean's execution that night there were also those who had tried to save him.

jones execution left scars on his lawyer steve present. steve still lives in the little town of norman near oklahoma city. specializing in final appeals of the condemned he has lost eleven of them and he has defended and succeeded in saving only two of them. and we hear so many people who support the death penalty saying well it's part of our system we have. the only reason that we haven't started as of this system is because they went back to change it and they they support the system and it's wrong and they don't know why it's so they don't know first hand. or even second you know what. a horrible. process it is.

i don't know when told one of their own family members has to go through and suddenly. they see everything wrong with. that case and others that i've done but seans because i was pretty close to or. destroyed my faith in the american legal system before giving death row faces i had the highest confidence in our courts and our law enforcement is you know i was a cop for ten years. and i practiced civil law and i worked in the courts on plot thought that things were good and fine and it was seeing the machinery of the state moving so venomously. very minutely against these people on death row to extinguish their lives and ignoring good evidence and ignoring constitutional violations.

that just took it out of me. has made me it's made me bitter i'm burned out. i really dislike the system i dislike being a lawyer. that's what it's there. steve no longer attends the executions. many people in oklahoma claim that the executions are humane and painless. i'm heading to mcallister in the eastern part of the state where the penitentiary is located to find the man who executed sean sellers. in oklahoma the prison guards

carry out the death sentences. the simplest way is to run an ad in the local newspaper looking for officers who participated in the execution. caught in the problem. you know a member shontelle or because he was a party guy that actually he was not an adult at which. i was working on my first. being me thank you no xan.

thought of while i remember that exchange. with twenty flash bangs occasion. i was involved in all morning long. times and all proximately. extractions. proximately sixty execution. fred cook who was in charge of sean's execution his father also executed prisoners in the electric chair fred is retired now

but about johnny and then and he would use that he had big big he had but i mean you know he he don't it paid one no two ways with bad it and. so nice in its name today if and we care a moan death row won't go first time and it was found a security man and we executed. once they come through that door they know what it . they're going to get on at table one or two ways about it and so that is problem. what was going through sean's mind during his final moments. when an execution takes place police or substances are injected from this room through these holes in

the wall street recruits three set isms to carry out this task the law guarantees that they remain anonymous. during the entire execution only the guards are in direct contact with the condemned prisoners. tim guarded the inmates during their final hours. lane was one of the guards that would strap them to the gurney. dark as well. jane would bring the lethal chemicals and see that the execution ran smoothly. fred the oldest planned the procedure.

eight nine minutes before the execution is good we're moving from what they say i'll take the men's add execution chamber with a painting of six observation. when they first come out of the so they have this look on august thirty first if you've known him for twenty years and we've known for a long time have this local. disbelief that you're going to be one of them that's going to welcome him there he not hearing. legard he anything golden or like a mayor they wish he was somebody else you wish he was somebody else. well you said you walking up to the gurney and they look at you because they don't know they've never done this before there's a sense of stress maybe nervousness. as

far as you know i seen one individual that once they entered the door to the chamber the nerves got to him so bad they became weak in a knee you know they just kind of and the strap down teams for a step and grabbed him by the arm and you know just held him up and assisted him on to the gurney we looked at you like for some direction you know sort of going away on the gurney and he looked at you know like. you know i've come sort of it until we heard people i knew that. you know and i'm going to get up there and when you want to do nothing you know what would you lay down here. what's wrong. and go ask why are you doing. you can tell me. i'm not going to keep going and i want you know straight down and they look at you you know i've had him look at me you know like he was a buyer so you saw me i just don't look at him i just i would look at him and i

wouldn't care so much i don't want. some i'm christ i'm i'm down there point toward i'm sorry let the execution began before he says that he waits a little bit and that way if for the governor in case the governor called and that was that's the only way that they actually should be stopped if the governor cart at that point and at that time they will start administering the system you have that moment of time to think you know how to talk about individual forty five minutes ago when individuals dead. and. it's a humbling experience i mean it. time is just belief you know . because some of them i know for twelve fourteen year. you will never forget about it you think about it until the day you. cared fiction

how can it not affect you that you're taking some guy even though he's done something to somebody bill is that you're taking some guy's trip and him down in basically you're putting me to death because you're part of the whole process of doing it but yeah it bothers me to this day i had nightmares i wake up waiting i wake up with herbal nightmares that they won't do no good to tell you because you wouldn't understand it unless you've been there. twelve years after the execution of sawn sellers i met only one participant of the story who didn't seem to have the slightest doubts.

this is oklahoma county's district attorney the man who demanded the death sentence for sean. old macey held office for close to twenty five years he is known in the us for being the d.a. who has obtained the most death sentences around sixty. macy always claimed that the death sentence has a dissuasive effect and he reiterated that opinion joining sean's trial. this may not be the best way to stop the killing but it's the only way i know and i think the jurors are saying look you go and you kill three people in this can't really give you the death been live awfully somebody else one. of. the district

attorney's arguments always had the backing of the public. want to. see the onion olding da is now retired and lives on his farm a few miles from oklahoma city. i hear the cynics think you should use of oh why high. horse most owners know so much you know our jobs a prosecutor bring the charges recently as our lives and are you for the death penalty i don't think. satisfaction or join a man's. business or law hopefully. among

a lot of my fellow law enforcement people would agree that hell is only turns oh goodness i have listeners just. you say you hope that it is a deterrent it thinks it is not proven well have you. there's no way i know of a figure when you stop someone of news of. the much feared district attorney who has never witnessed a single execution now admits that there has never been any perth's that the death penalty has a dissuasive effect on criminality. the facts are there in the twelve years since sean's execution oklahoma's crime rate has not decreased.

right now. or oh boy who cried as on who was of brosnan especially directed to young women and children and. i can explain three of one hundred seventy. i'm going to drugs are very horrible crimes i don't know how to explain it. we've seen heard several cases filed in this county where a war friend or husband want to smash the baby against a wall and i don't want to live. person could do that and kill a baby. a crime is that we're dealing with i don't rehabilitate work rather i think if you commit he's horrible

horrible crimes. i was beyond redemption how do you teach somebody thought was. huntin later on. because. if people love each other there would be killers who.

can eat. the way a little was written. eat. fish eat eat eat was the ticket wasn't. for many citizens of oklahoma the bible offers an irrefutable justification for the death penalty particularly the verses which are subject to widely differing interpretations about an eye for an eye a tooth for a target we have pastor don't duncan accompanied shawntel and many other prisoners both men and women in the final moments now he no longer carries out this mission.

does that square for justify what we're doing today. are we doing it today because we like punishing people in my life it's been. it's been eight years now and now confining talk about fully talk about what i did. do i regret you know i help the person. not that i was in favor of putting a person to bear nothing was going to stop that i was there to help that person and i thought i was i would minister to the person i would talk to them i cannot do this any longer i can't put words in god's mouth but i don't think he would want the death penalty i think he would want us to share

law and how to have a life and christ. can believe in god or much do you fear his judgment you know what well more so you must raise i'm so not or i'm out even though the chance that i did against death penalty.

was. six years after sean's execution the supreme court at long last ruled against capital punishment for minors. today three thousand three hundred prisoners are waiting on death row throughout the united states. in oklahoma the mortal remains not claimed by family are buried in the little cemetery in front of the penitentiary.

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