tv [untitled] August 28, 2011 7:31pm-8:01pm EDT
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and with nineteen dead along the u.s. east credits to hurricane irene concept for new york city if not a leading their lives without electricity. as the headlines coming up next part two of the special report on the capital punishment debate in the united states as a family of a sixteen year old boy who was executed in one thousand nine hundred ninety nine. sister debbie lives not far from the penitentiary town she too used to take care of her nephew quite a lot when volunteer was out on the road noelle and laura knew her well. for we're all for justice if it would be. you know we've been right there with. bells you know ringing because it's payback it's been it's it's you know whatever but when it's someone that
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do i feel responsible for helping the fusion yes. do i feel bad about it you know. now do i feel bad for the grieving that did jim and. debbie went through yes. i feel sorry for their loss do i feel. they lost more than i did they lost vonda and sean i just lost my father did they lose more you bet grandfather jim debbie refused to come to the execution on february fourth one thousand nine hundred nine sean took about six minutes to die.
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i don't know what i saw. i saw. that person i tried not to think about it like that because i didn't want to think about it but i was so angry i still wanted it to go. and i have great remorse sometimes for. most of the thinking about it it's gone. over ten years i had to worry. what it's just doesn't happen what if he gets out of the kids out the mayor worry
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jones execution left scars on his lawyer steve press and. executive. steve still lives in the little town of norman near oklahoma city. specializing in final appeals of the condemned he has lost eleven of them and he has defended and succeeded in saving only two of them. and we hear so many people who support the death penalty saying well it's part of our system we have it well the only reason that we have it as part of the system is because they act to change it and they they support the system and it's wrong and they don't know why it's so they don't know first hand. or even second you know what. a horrible. process it is.
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i don't know until one of their own family members has to go through it and then suddenly there. they see everything wrong with. that case and others that i've done but shawn's because i was pretty close to. destroyed my faith in the american legal system before doing death row cases i had the highest confidence in our courts in our law enforcement because i was a cop for ten years. and i practiced civil law and i worked in the courts and i thought that things were good and far and it was seeing the machinery of the state moving so venomously. vemma not only against these people on death row two to extinguish their lives and ignoring good evidence and ignoring constitutional violations.
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that just took it out of me. made me it's made me bitter i'm burned out. i really dislike the system i dislike being a lawyer. that's what it is that. steve no longer attends the execution. many people in oklahoma claim that the executions are humane and painless. i'm heading to mcallister in the eastern part of the state where the penitentiary is located to find the man who executed shown sellers. in oklahoma of the prison guards carry out the death sentences.
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thought of while i remember that exchange. when this twenty plus execution. was involved in all morning. i was involved in approximately fifty two executions. proximately sixty execution. fred cooke who was in charge of sean's execution his father also executed prisoners in the electric chair fred is retired now
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but brought johnny and then and he would use a key had big he had but i mean you know he is guilty he he done it they were no two ways of bad it and. so i say interesting but they if and we kept him on death row nto such time as it was time to execute him and then we executed once they come through that there were they know that. they don't have to get on that day well they no two ways about it and so there it is crawl up on title. what was going through sean's mind during his final moments. when an execution takes place. injected from this room through these holes in the wall the state
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recruits three citizens to carry out this task the law guarantees that they remain anonymous during the entire execution only the guards are in direct contact with the condemned prisoners. tim guarded the inmates during their final hours. lane was one of the guards that would strap them to the gurney. dark as well. jane would bring the lethal chemical and see that the execution ran smoothly. fred the oldest of the procedure.
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eight nine minutes before the execution is scheduled we're moving from one they say oh take the men's add execution chamber with a payment of six. officers restrained all when they first come out of this so they have this look on like i said if you've known him for twenty years and be known for a long time they have this look. disbelief that you're going to be one of them that's going to walk i'm in there you know hank you know legard he anything golden or like a man they wish he was somebody else you wish he was somebody else and when i said you walk mugged or the gurney and they look at you because they don't know they've never done this before there's a sense of. stress maybe nervousness but as
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far as you know same one individual that once they entered the door to the chamber the nerves got to him so bad that they became weak in the knees you know they use canada and the strap down team just reached up and grabbed him by the arm and you know just held him up in a system on to the gurney and they look at you like for some direction you know sir can you lay on the gurney and they look at you like you can you know i've come sort of until we want to do that. you know and they get up there in the room where you when we do now you know when would you lay down here put your hand put your arms. and know ask why are you doing that. you can tell nothing you can answer him you just got to keep doing it and once you get him strapped down and they look at you and you know i've had him look at you know like they want to say bye or say some don't look at him just i would look at him and i would look at so much i don't want
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anything so mom cries to mum go that point toward and say let the execution began before he says that he waits a little bit and that way if for the governor in case the governor call then that will last only way that the execution could be stopped if the governor calls at that point and at that time they will start administering the drugs into the system you have that moment of time to think you know how to talk to that individual forty five minutes ago that individuals are dead now and. it's a humbling experience i mean you at times just disbelief you know . because some of them i know for ten twelve fourteen year. you'll never forget about it you'll think about it until the day you know. headed fix you how can that not affect you that you're taking some guy you know he's done
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something to somebody did all this that you're taking some guy and stripping down in basically you're putting to death because you're part of the whole process of doing it but yeah it bothers me to lose day i have nightmares i wake up waiting i wake up with horrible nightmares that he won't do no good to tell you because you would never stand it unless you've been there. twelve years after the execution of son sellers i met only one participant of the story who didn't seem to have the slightest doubts.
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this is oklahoma county's district attorney the man who demanded the death sentence for sean. he held office for close to twenty five years he is known in the us for being the d.a. who has obtained the most death sentences around sixty. macy always claimed that the death sentence has a dissuasive effect and he reiterated that opinion during sean's trial. this may not be the best way to stop the killing but it's the only way i know and i think these jurors are saying look you go you kill three people in this county we can give you the death penalty that hopefully somebody else will. do. the district attorney's arguments always had the backing of the public what.
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the un yelled and da is now retired and lives on his farm a few miles from oklahoma city. i have seen the execution yourself know what. horrors my son is knows not much you know why jobs a prosecutor bring the charges present their lives and are usually the death penalty i don't think it serves frazier joy. is a nurse or law hopefully. model lowe a fellow law enforcement people book agree that his only target. good is
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and if it isn't it's just. you say you hope that it is a deterrent it means it is not proven well of me. there's no way i know of a figure when you stop someone of news of. the much fear district attorney who has never witnessed a single execution now admits that there has never been any perth's that the death penalty has a dissuasive effect on criminality. the facts are there in the twelve years since sean's execution oklahoma's crime rate has not decreased.
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right now were who crime was on who was not present and especially directed to young women and children and. i can explain to you why is having america crimes are very horrible crimes i don't know how to explain it. we've seen had several cases filed in this county where a war friend her husband's smashed a baby against a wall and i don't want to live as a. person could do that until a baby. a crime was that we're dealing with i don't want rehabilitation or rather i think if you commit these horrible horrible crimes. almost beyond
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can eat. eat eat eat. eat eat eat eat eat it was. the to eat. for many citizens of oklahoma the bible offers an irrefutable justification for the death penalty particularly the verses which are subject to widely differing interpretations about an eye for an eye a tooth for a target we have pastor don't duncan accompanied sean and many other prisoners both men and women in their final moments now he no longer carries out this mission. does that scripture justify what we're doing today not now are we
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doing it today because we like punishing people in my life it's been. it's been eight years now and now i can finally talk about fully talk about what i did. do i regret no help the person not that i was in favor of putting that person to death nothing was going to stop that i was there to help that person and so i was i would minister to the person i would talk to them i cannot do this any longer i can't put words in god's mouth but i don't think he would want the death penalty i think he would want us to share law. and how to have life in
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years after sean's execution the supreme court at long last ruled against capital punishment for minors. today three thousand three hundred prisoners are waiting on death row throughout the united states. in oklahoma the mortal remains not claimed by family are buried in the little cemetery in front of the penitentiary.
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nearly a billion people in the world are going hungry every day. in the united states even our trash cans are filled with food you just have to go get it all of these perfectly good eggs because one was cracked in even get all over the other ones just thrown all the way out and cheese from the german oh if we're really in like the upper crust. of the dumpster at one am this morning after three pm this
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