out of this world from the orbital pleasure dome. and now back to libya once again in the wake of the rebel success and gaining control of most of the country there's been a lot of debate regarding nato his role in it and also he talks to a british m.p. who opposed intervention in libya who discusses what role the western powers should play in shaping the country's future. today i'm talking to barry gardener who's a labor member of parliament and one of the very few m.p.'s to a very serious against the intervention in libya mr gardiner thanks for talking to r.t. today now we see that the rebels if we can still call them that have practically taken tripoli and that gaddafi looks like he's lost the fight have you changed your mind about the libyan intervention the point is the legitimacy of it and that's what i created in the beginning i think most people would agree that it was right to intervene on humanitarian grounds to save the people of benghazi that was never

the issue the issue was all this whether nato should then become involved as effectively the strikeforce for the rebel corps and that's what it's been and that of course was in my view way beyond the brief that the united nations had given and it was wrong it was not the should have been about regime change a civil war in libya is something for them it's not something for the rest of the world to intervene how do you wish it could have been different then what would you have done if you'd been in charge i think what we should have seen is we should have seen an intervention by the forces that went in to stop that attack on benghazi to neutralize gadhafi and to make sure that he then did not conduct any aggressive sorties as he had previously been doing but not that they should then become the air on the straight forward for the rebels david cameron said a few days ago that nato would lend support in libya for as long as civilians need

protecting what was your reaction to that is that open ended commitment as it sounds. it was very clear in the original un resolution it was very clear when our prime minister spoke in parliament here that there would be no. occupation force that would be totally wrong one of the things that troubled me all was this ambivalence as to whether there should be troops on the ground and of course that wasn't expressly prohibited by the resolution but but it was something that i think all of us were very concerned about. what we saw as the rebels were going into tripoli the other day certainly on the radio programs that were broadcast in the u.k. we would go left go left go left these instructions being yelled

out by what were obviously british soldiers british personnel who were leading that advance group now that i think it's where we've overstepped the line there's also no talk of putting peacekeeping forces on the ground in libya i've seen that something you oppose but you know decimated country with no structures for maintaining order now is that not the only way i don't believe it is i don't believe it's right that we should be staying there. to establish the new regime that's that's not what this was originally about it was about humanitarian protection let me be clear i'm very pleased to see the back of gadhafi this is a very evil dictator the sooner he is in front of the international criminal court the better. and i'm very glad that his days are now at an end. i wish the new regime well but i think it's important that they establish their regime

they prove to the international community that they have the capacity not to tear themselves into different factions and to libya as a strong and unified government but that's their responsibility you supported the invasion of iraq back in two thousand and. three why is this so different it's very different. the invasion of iraq was because. saddam hussein had refused to reveal as he was obliged to under the chapter seven of the united nations resolution whether or not he had got rid of all of the nuclear chemical. biological weapons that we knew he had previously about he refused to do and even as late as february hans blix was saying we do not know whether he still has these he listed a whole load of v.x. nerve gas mustard gas different agents chemical agents so we didn't know and he was

not willing to allow. other countries to come to interview the scientists to see the audit trails to know whether he got rid of them or not in that situation it would have been ludicrous to have had a million strong army that was on the doorstep of iraq simply go away when the resolution fourteen forty one had given iran given him a final opportunity to comply with his obligations how the world done that then what would have happened is he would have simply rebuilt those programs with impunity knowing that he was absolutely untouchable and the world would not do anything against him we would have then been precipitated into a far more major conflict into the in the middle east between iran and iraq with devastating consequences destruction of the world's oil supplies it was a terrible situation and it was right that we took the action that we did not the

fact that the united nations didn't sanction it in terms of a second resolution does not change the fact that forty and forty one said it was the final opportunity for him to comply now i'm a parent i have children i know that if i tell my children please come and do the washing up and they don't do it and i say look i've told. once already please come up if you have twelve years of that which is what we had with saddam hussein and you then come to the point where you say this is your final chance and he still does not comply then it's important that you take the ultimate sanction after that what about what happened afterwards there in both iraq and afghanistan the real violence began after the dictatorships were toppled do you see that happening in libya i think there is a danger of this and what you saw was certainly in iraq was a complete failure of the occupying powers then to stabilize the situation and they

let the the iraqi army keep their weapons but they disbanded the army and they said you must go back to your villages but you can keep your weapons this was insanity absolutely insanity and we must not be in a position where what we've done is created greater instability in libya that is absolutely clear. but nonetheless equally must avoid is becoming an occupation force i think afghanistan is a very good example russia has very bitter experience of afghanistan as as does britain of being an occupying power and you start off being a friend of someone and you end up being hated by everyone an occupying force is a very dangerous place to be and you should get out as quickly as you can what's the middle way that some would argue that nato is stepping in has made this situation worse is it not their nature his responsibility to stay and clear up the mess you pose the question that really is how do you get to where you want to to be

and of course the answer is well i wouldn't have started from here but you're right we're now in this situation and therefore what we have to do is to ensure that we provide support for stability without our cells being that stabilizing. force it must not be that the new government relies on the military of britain and nato in order to maintain power they must be able to do that on their own we can give advice we can give help to help them stabilize the situation but we must not assume responsibility ourselves governments in fifth that lessons were learned from what happened in iraq but given the way that this conflict been conducted do you believe that. it's always a danger for every government in my view and every army to be fighting the last war. what you do is you learn lessons from one

conflict which you then take on to the next but usually what you forget is that the context of the situation is different the next time and therefore the lessons that you've learned from the previous experience may not be appropriate in the conflict that you are now fighting and you mentioned the faction inside the national transitional council we now know that some of those factions are religious groups who hope to establish an islamic state in libya what will the attitude to that be do you think. nato and from the libyans themselves will they get a voice in this new democracy it's not for nato or for the else to allow but it's for the people of libya to decide what they want to do it's for them to decide their own future. in this country and. all across the world people have to learn to live. with the fact that we have

different religious views different ethical views nonetheless we have to live together we have to spine some means of sharing a society sharing the country and making it work for all of us i believe the people of libya are no less capable of doing that than the people of. of the people of the united kingdom do you think that ultimately his intervention will cause more trouble in the middle east a region that is after already deeply unstable so i think the most serious i think it will if if if nato stays there as an occupation force but i don't think that is going to happen i think the really troubling conflicts in the middle east at the moment are within syria i think if you look at bahrain and the way in which saudi arabia went into bahrain to prop up the oligarchy there against the wishes of the people these are the flashpoints in the middle east that still have not versed asunder that is going to happen. once people have scented

revolution once they have seen that freedom and a better life is possible i don't think they will go back under the yoke of the talk or see barry gardner thank you very much. nearly a billion people in the world are knowing countries every day. in the united states even our trash cans are food with food you just have to go get it all of these perfectly good eggs because one was cracked didn't even get all over the other ones just threw them all away and she was from the german oh you clearly like. a profile . from the dumpster at one am this morning three pm this afternoon on the grill the

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to. treat. reagan rebels rejected his own talks about the country's future and the national transitional council said it wants to see him in jail and not have the negotiating table. bloodshed in syria continues despite promises of press reforms are not to claiming at least five people were killed over the weekend the arab league has become the latest international body to pressure president assad's to end the violence. in the ultimate retreat a russian company plans to open the first seven space hotel addressed by good it will cause a potential tourists one million dollars to enjoy the out of this world cube from the orbital pleasure. and all news for united than fifteen minutes just before the launch natasha's here with a major sporting caption. hello

welcome to the latest course of days on our team and here are the headlines this hour since ation hussein bald is eliminated from the one hundred meters final for a full stop allowing fellow jamaican yohan blake sort of win the world championship gold. draw to all in the wilds and lead to a five year old victory over the course of the dark and moving go in at the top of the russian premier league table. and also suboxone battell is closing in on a second straight formula one title after winning his seventh race this year while lewis hamilton crashed out on the baltic sea. and let's begin with the biggest upset of the world the flooding in south korea usa involved disqualified from the one hundred meters final for a full stalled in one of the tournaments most highly anticipated events on sunday

that allowed the rest of the contenders to battle for the top spot on with bolts a jamaican teammate and blake edging every one in nine point nine nine hundred two seconds american wall to dick's clinch the silver and that came calling stupid the brawns their frustrated balls meanwhile could fly back in the two hundred meters and also the full by one hundred meters relay team still remaining a bounce and the syrians world finals. regardless of what's up with the museum or oh my god it must surely finally have been working together all season to get the job done. right now and when they are considering vice versa either we see for starting with just traumatizing for me feel sorry for course i do fear the media for jimmy kimmel to get the job done. and earlier russia and its first medals following a want to finish in the man's twenty kilometer walk. won the same event at the world finals in berlin lived up to his billing by taking yet another gold rush and

completing the distance in one hour nineteen minutes and fifty six seconds stacey one seconds ahead of them patrick. lewis for now the law versus. the media at the start of it was very important for me to compete in the world championships but it was also a very tough and you want to first won the gold medal at the two thousand and eight olympics i was not very well known and not considered a favorite but now after winning the gold medal at the world championships in berlin i'm already under scrutiny and everybody wants to be so it was very tough for me. and elsewhere amputee athlete oscar pistorius has made a successful debut at the top level south africa nicknamed the blade runner progress and into the four hundred meters semi's with the time all forty five point nine seconds. there it is. going into the very. exact through which you do you have to analyze the race

continues. to think it's cool to see if you know if you're going to force to. hit you with. all your notes. and form the wants of us and it's our lead from start to finish to claim a seventh or a swathe of the season and extend the overall lead in the process the german helping red bull train one to finish with mark webber close behind in second mclaren's telson both in the improved from set scenes on the grade to said denying fernando alonso a podium finish and new sandals and crashed out early on despite starting from second elsewhere rushes without a picture off was ninth of a towel meanwhile leeds web of by ninety six points overall now increasing his title chances. are now football and sunday's primary games here in russia the pick of the weekend's action was the most bit when spartak and says come out which has finished at luzhniki. well it's on that is an early in the first stuff to put struggling as far back in front but do be

a levelled after the break before this guy has however many key maybe tools as part of the beautiful strike of the second col found it strange that's way off the was. in the days of the highlights in the face of the rest are helped by had trick from alexandria get a shock call his first two came within six minutes in the middle of the first stops seventy nine minutes and is in need and a panel to keep following a fall in the box there. and the same man could circle that made no mistake from the spot for his goal in front of the home crowd at the petrofsky. but even that wasn't enough was in each year old. added one girl each to complete the five meal showdown meaning that peter's book club replaced mosco at the summit. of all premier league action knowledge and now my defeated spot agnostic on home soil kevin pour on the open for the last devise in the seventeenth minute following

a low cross from my legs on the side me of the ambiguous initial double the scoring the opening haul for the blistering effort from outside the box. now for much champions are being schooled a single goal against the fly demoted to doing with the winner there as are being registered and they're over the underdogs. and over in england both halls of manchester have plenty of reasons to celebrate after united and saves he claimed big wins on sunday the red devils humiliating also no eight two at old trafford including it had triggered by rooney and the brace from young the result is the gun as big as defeat on the manager sound ngaire meanwhile city for us another london side told them five one jeff gold with an amazing full goals to his name against those wins maine united and also the standings but c.c. also see the online points ahead of liverpool chelsea and wolves well they've got us going to need to struggle with their victory so far in the new season and

elsewhere for them also win this after going down to want a way to new console and stoke lost one mil to west brom. tennis world number one caroline was now has become the first larry nine years to win the new haven open title for consecutive times right on the us open check bet that you've had a great trying to have scary a final but couldn't out. plenty of exhausting really is in the opening set there before the snow could see because some fool and she then cruised boston flagging to go in the second to play. it's six one and say away seventeenth. two thousand and six. meanwhile in practice at the range so close on saturday as the season's final grand slam still hopes to start a scheduled on monday despite the arrival of hurricane irene in the men's door defending champ and off on the dull could meet world number one and main rival this season djokovic chain that final while five time winner would you federer is now

a bit of an outsider having turned sixty three weeks ago. with the birds. he's. out of there we will see. the best of the. big. version when it comes to. stretching. terms around some time. since. seven years ago. for many years ago with. goals now in dustin johnson won the barclays by two strokes on to the new jersey tournament was reduced to three rounds because of a hurricane that's when the seven year old made up for

a bogey on the said hill with excellent out of the bunker on the fourth discard on the day including total of five birdies. who had been in the hunt for the top spot as well before the defending champions five birdies were marred by consecutive. and so it seems johnson apparently more consistent on the day with a six on the ball sixty five winning the first fed ex cup play off of and he's now top of the fed ex standings as the full two women trace begins for the sound mainland to a low prize. and finally went to sportsman. preparing for the new season including play as one of the most popular games here in russia and in scandinavia but is liked as its main beta still overshadowed by some more established sports rushed while poor flight has this story. if you want anyone outside of russia or will scandinavia what is bandy the vast majority wouldn't have a clue however the game is very simple it's just right field hockey played online.

it may not be as big as football and ice hockey and these still has a strong following in russia and sweden and one of the biggest stars around this mikhail speech was a household name in both these nations has been a big week for the russian captain as he rejoined his beloved denominate sco all in the span of the swedish league this enormous and i believe it is more fun to watch band the in russia as the game is a lot quicker and there is more emphasis on it sounds like it doesn't get in sweden the game is more tactically based and is a little defensively orientated with you they are very good at this sunday's big business in russia but the sport is played professionally. for international matches can be upwards of thirty thousand players can expect to earn over one hundred thousand dollars a year whereas in sweden a monthly salary is in the region of just two to three thousand euros many many of the players have to take up second jobs in europe set up the standard of bandy is increasing all the time crease in salaries also helps that there are

a number of other factors which are making the sport better the more popular in the likes of russia in sweden there are a number of factors limiting the development to bandy firstly it's not for lympics sport which means it's difficult for associations in countries where the sport isn't as popular to get state funding also of it's a very fascinating time to change watch when understands the sheer speed of the game isn't suited to be a whole can be difficult to see past can sometimes be the case in field hockey for the most professionals i think we need to try to spread the game. really and play a tournament sing countries where the game isn't as developed it that it will the big championships take place in russia and sweden so we should try to play more in countries like finland norway and even in north america where the people read about the game in magazines however which it is only when they see banned on t.v. they can understand what the struggle is all about getting the kind of guys promise is one of the top funny stadiums around the world watching indoors can be

a great benefit in the winter when temperatures i don't was dropped as well as minus thirteen however for hard fans of sporting russia and sweden not even such a cold was able to put them all for their favorite pastime. moscow. and that's all this ball phenomenas say soon for the weather update coming up shortly after this.

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