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here with r t live from moscow at ten thirty am at the top stories libyan rebels reject colonel gadhafi is all further talks about the country's future the national transitional council says it wants to see him in jail and not in the go shooting table. bloodshed in syria continues despite promises of press reforms with activists claiming at least five people were killed over the weekend the arab league has become the latest international bodies and pressure president also to end the fighting. and the ultimate retreat a russian company plans to open
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a first ever space hotel in just five years it will cost potentially each potential tourist one million dollars to enjoy the out of the world of this world view from the world little until. now back to libya in the wake of the rebel success and gaining control of most of the country there's been a lot of debate regarding nato's role in it arches or emmet has asked the british m.p. who opposed intervention in libya about the role western powers should play in shaping another country's future. today i'm talking to barry gardener who's a labor member of parliament and one of the very few m.p.'s to a very against the intervention in libya mr gardiner thanks for talking with you r.t. today now we see that the rebels if we can still call them that have practically taken tripoli and it's actually looks like he's lost the fight have you changed your mind about the libyan intervention point is the legitimacy of it and that's
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what i read in the beginning and i think most people would agree that it was right to intervene on humanitarian grounds to save the people of benghazi that was never the assume it was all and whether nato should then become involved as effectively the strike force for the rebel course and that's what it's been and that of course was in my view way beyond the grief that the united nations had given and it was wrong it was not that we should have been about regime change a civil war in libya is something for them it's not something for the rest of the world from tribunal how do you wish it could have been different then what would you have done if you'd been in charge i think what we should have seen is we should have seen an intervention by the forces that went in to stop that attack on benghazi. gadhafi and to make sure that he then did not conduct any aggressive sorties as he had previously been doing but not that they should then become the
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air on the straight forward for the rebels david cameron said a few days ago that nato would lend support in libya for as long as civilians need protecting what was your reaction to that is that open ended commitment as it sounds. it was very clear in the original un resolution it was very clear our prime minister spoke in parliament here that there would be no. occupation force that would be totally wrong and one of the things that troubled me all this was this ambivalence as to whether there should be troops on the ground and of course that wasn't expressly prohibited by the resolution but but it was something that i think all of us were very concerned about. what we saw as the rebels were going into tripoli the other day certainly. the radio
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programs that were broadcast in the u.k. we would go left go left go left these instructions being yelled out by what were obviously british soldiers british personnel who were leading that advance group now that i think is where we've overstepped the line there's also now talk of pursing peacekeeping forces on the ground in libya i see not something you would but you know decimated country with no structures or maintaining order now is that not the only way i don't believe it is i don't believe it's right that we should be staying there if effectively to establish the new regime that's not what this was originally about it was about humanitarian protection let me be clear i'm very pleased to see the back of could i think this is a very evil dictator and the sooner he is in front of the international criminal
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court the better. and i'm very glad that his days are now out and then. i wish the new regime well but i think it's important that they establish their regime that they prove to the international community that they have the capacity not to tear themselves into different factions and to libya as a strong unified government but that's their responsibility you supported the invasion of iraq back in two thousand and. three why is this very different it's very different to the invasion of iraq was because. saddam hussein had refused to reveal as he was obliged to under chapter seven of the united nations resolution whether or not he had got rid of the. chemical. or biological weapons that we knew he had previously about he refused to do.
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even this latest february hans blix was saying we do not know whether he still has these he listed a whole load of v.x. nerve gas mustard gas the different agents chemical agents so we didn't know and he was not willing to allow. other countries to come to interview the scientists to see the audit trails to know whether he got rid of them or not in that situation it would have been ludicrous to have had a million strong army that was on the doorstep of iraq simply go away when the resolution fourteen forty one had given iran given him a final opportunity to comply with its obligations how the world bound it then what would have happened if he would have simply rebuilt those programs with impunity knowing that he was absolutely untouchable and the world would not do anything against it we would have then been precipitated for far more major conflict and for them in the middle east between iran and iraq with devastating
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consequences destruction of the world's oil supplies it was a terrible situation and it was right that we took action that we did you know the fact that the united nations didn't sanction it in the in terms of a second resolution does not change the fact that fourteen forty one said it was final opportunity for him to comply now i'm a parent i have children i know that if i tell my children please come and do the washing up and they don't do it and i said look i've told. once already please come to the question what if you have twelve years of that which is what we had with set up and saying and you then come to the point where you say this is your final chance and he still does not comply then it's important that you take the ultimate sanction after that what about what happens afterwards there in both iraq and afghanistan the real violence began after the dictatorships were toppled do you see that happening in libya i think there is
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a danger of this and what you saw was certainly in iraq was a complete failure of the occupying powers then to stabilize the situation and they let the the iraqi army keep their weapons but they disbanded the army and they said you must go back to your villages you can keep your weapons this was insanity absolutely insanity and we must not be in a position where what you've done is created greater instability in libya that is absolutely clear. but nonetheless equally must avoid is becoming an occupation force i think afghanistan is a very good example russia has very bitter experience over campus down there as as does britain of being an occupying power and you start off being a friend of someone and you end up being hated by everyone an occupying force is a very dangerous place to be and you should get out as quickly as you can what's
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the middle way that some would argue that nato stepping in has made the situation worse is it not their nature its responsibility to stay and clear up the math and you pose the question that really is how do you get to where you want to be and of course the answer is well i wouldn't have started from here but you're right we're now in this situation and therefore what we have to do is to ensure that we provide support for stability without our cells being that stabilizing. military force it must not be that the new government relies on the military of britain and nato in order to maintain power they must be able to do that on their own we can give advice we can give help to help them stabilize the situation but we must not assume that responsibility ourselves governments in fifty packed lessons were learned from what happened in iraq given the way that this conflict been conducted
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do you believe that it's. always a danger for every government if you and every army to be fighting the last war. what you do is you learn lessons from one conflict which you then take on to the next but usually what you forget is that the context of the situation is different the next time and therefore the lessons that you've learnt from the previous experience may not be appropriate in the conflict that you're now fighting you mentioned the factions inside the national transitional council we now know that some of those factions are religious groups who hope to establish an islamic state in libya what will the attitude to that you think grace from nato and from the libyans themselves will they get a voice in this new democracy road it's not for nato or for the else to allow but it's for the people of libya to decide what they want to do it's for them to decide
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their own future. in this country and. all across the world people have to learn to live. with the fact that we have different religious views different ethical views but nonetheless we have to live together we have to spine some means of sharing a society sharing a country and making it work for all of us i believe the people of libya are no less capable of doing that than the people who are. radical of the people of the united kingdom do you think that ultimately made his intervention will cause more trouble in the middle east a region that is after all already deeply unstable so i think the most serious i think it will if if if nato stays there as an occupation force but i don't think that is going to happen i think the really troubling conflicts in in the middle east at the moment are within syria i think if you look at bahrain and the way in which saudi arabia went into bahrain to prop up the oligarchy there against the
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wishes of the people these are the flashpoints in the middle east that still have not something. that is going to happen. once people have scented revolution once they have seen that freedom and a better life is possible i don't think they will go back to the joke. very got to thank you very much. we'll. bring you the latest. from. the. discovery.
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markets long enough to. find out what's really happening to the global economy cause a report on our tea. party's top stories libyan rebels reject colonel gadhafi as an offer of talks about the country's future the national transitional council says it wants to see him in jail not at the negotiating table. bloodshed in syria continues despite promises of trust reforms that activists claiming at least five people were killed over the weekend the arab league has become the latest international body for faster president to end the violence. and the ultimate retreat a russian company plans to open the first time or space hotel in just five years ago possibly tensional tourist one million dollars to a way out of this world view probably or. more news in fifteen minutes but first
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let's get the latest from the world of sports you know neal is here and bragging rights lie firmly in the northern half of the english premier league today don't they they certainly do particularly in manchester goals and he scored by united and city quite extraordinary we've got the story of the day plus the rest of the sport coming up. thanks for joining us this monday morning here in the central moscow i mean you know neal and these are some of the stories we're covering this hour. spoil sure who's most fiery football darby ends up all square between sports and six. edging closer a second street formula one probably not look so open inevitable first battle after victory number seven of the year. raise
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a glass thomas bjorn wins on morris in five non playoff to claim the johnnie walker championship claim. let's kick off a football where sunday soar crocker of a must be in the russian premier league sports are costing the leading sask the stadium sports act went into the clash aiming to keep the two month on the run intact and it was the red knights who seize the initiative right before the break well its own writing home to me she comes across shot. but this guy got right back into it half a dozen minutes after the break not the greatest of the fending from the home side allowing c. to do india to take full advantage. on one that would become to sixty nine minutes in again sport's not looking less than inspirational the bok is run sausage that this time finding the net. however contender for strike at the weekend would guarantee flurry corp and charges a points money well. having written for. votes is how the absorbing clash would
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finish. that's what i'm eating c.s.k. i have company at the summit for the first time in months and joining the army men at the top following a five mill thrashing over s six truss that are alexander project off helping himself to a brace before the how far marc. incent petersburg for good work from johnny the final eleven minutes would turn into gold first off claiming his trick from the penalty spot after brilliant volley from. off beat it forward five minutes from time the icing on the cake coming courtesy of downey a delightful chip making it with no three on the trot work. elsewhere in the kept the pressure up on the leading perth the third seeded side seeing off project to deal fellow muscovites lucky to be also one against southern russian opposition beating f.c. one nil while the routine helps leapfrog samuel on g.m.
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to force one to win a home to rock bottom for. smiles all across month chester this morning after both the red and blue sides of the city rocked of course on sunday in english premier league result of all the day on jointly appearing at old trafford were money united on the arsenal the heaviest defeat in over a century do not adjust your screen is quite right eight how it ended up really nothing the trick in the absolute demolition job and jacko him self help. man city talking five one for bulls for the bulls ne and monte quite a store lot but elsewhere there are a windsor first stoke have been cast you know. and. it has been an evenly disappointing sunday for you same both the world's fastest man disqualified in the one hundred metres final at the world athletics
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championship following a false starts no rules were changed last year to allow only one full start instead of two of her despair in the face of the olympic champion the race that we have both jamaican teammate you want blake who won in the time of nine point nine two american walter dix he took silver with that. can collins running off the podium bolt will not be aiming to points back in the two hundred meters and four by one hundred meters really is true meaning events inside the. house run the day double amputee oscar pistorius has made a success of the did you are that top level the south african it in blade runner progressing into the four hundred meter sami's with f. thirty s. finish in it's. going. to do little good going into the race you know. exactly what you're doing you have to analyze the race continues to be good so it's cool too so if you're going to force
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. you with. all your. let's talk for no one where the odds have shortened on sebastian vettel retaining his driver's title the german tightening his grasp at the top of the standings after leading from start to finish to claim victory number seven of twelve this season his red bull team taking the top two putting spots out for mark webber finished up in second place while the current jenson button improved from a starting position of being the third denying fernando alonso a top three finish put in steam at lewis hamilton here crushed out early on he had started from second rushes to telephone profits nine bethell dali's webber by ninety six points. and stoner was finally able to conquer the brickyard circuit the indianapolis crown prix history in recent to seven to win of the season after failing to climb on top of the podium or get on the podium at all i should
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say in his two previous arden's indy stoner was on pole for the race but downey producer got off to one of his trademark fast start stealing the lead however the twenty five year old stayed on this honda stablemates trail passing this minute a lot seven producing maintaining that second position fending off ya know how rivals ben spies and forget the race. underwriter's and i won three straight races held on american soil so sooner earns his third straight win his overall lead over reigning champ lorenzo increases the forty four. that's what's the goal for thomas bjorn held his nerve in scotland secure the johnnie walker championship crown the danish veteran fending off the competition in a five hole play off for a twelfth european tour when bjorn finishing the day on three under sixty nine tiger mark foster after wrapping up their own george could see burned the iceberg and. also joining the jewel flight extra to warn but he kept swinging away as he
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watched an iceberg on the rise a ball drop by of contention on the first and second hole respectively foster dropped up next we're going to lose it you know it's after cuzzi missed a birdie the forty year old securing a second one of the season after also finishing fourth after the british open this year. and finally winter sportsman are busy preparing for the new season including players of one of the most popular games here in russia bundy but as liked as it may be it remains overshadowed by more established sports richard from poor family takes on the story. if you want anyone outside of russia or scandinavia what is bandy a vast majority wouldn't have a clue however the game is very simple it's just like field hockey played online yes it may not be as biggest football and i talkie the bandys still has a strong following in russia and sweden and one of the biggest stars around this mikhail station a curve as a household name in both these nations has been
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a big weight for the russian canton as he rejoined his beloved in on a moscow following a spell in the swedish league is a bogus and i believe it is more fun to watch banned in russia as the game is a lot quicker and there is more emphasis on attack in sweden the game is more tactically based and is more defensively orientated though they are very good at this is big business in russia but the sport is played professionally crowds for international matches can be upwards of thirty thousand players who expect to earn over one hundred thousand dollars a year whereas in sweden a monthly salary is in the region of just two to three thousand euros and in many of the players have to take up second jobs. standard of bandy is increasing all the time being crease in salaries also helps and there are a number of other factors which are making the sport better and more and more popular in the likes of russia in sweden there are a number of factors remitting the development of bandy firstly it's not the olympic
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sport which means it difficult for associations in countries where the sport isn't as popular to get state funding also of it's a very fast and exciting game to watch when understands the sheer speed it again isn't suit t v the ball can be difficult to see as can sometimes be the case and field hockey. we need to try to spread the game more globally and play tournament's in countries where the game isn't as developed over the big championships take place in russia or in sweden we should try to play more in countries like finland norway and even in north america people read about the game in magazines. however it's only when they see you on t.v. that they can understand what the sport is all about the content ice palace is one of the top one hundred stadiums around the world and watching indoors can be a great benefit in the winter when temperatures i don't was dropped as well as minus thirteen however for hard fans of sporting russia and sweden the team such cold is able to put them all fair favorite past time. we don't see moscow
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interesting stuff well that is all the sport for now world weather is next and any sense here with all the news at the top of the our. wealthy british style. markets weiner scandal. find out what's really happening to the global economy comes a report on our. mine
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don't come. nearly a billion people in the world are going hungry every day. in the united states even our trash cans are full of the food you just have to go get it all of these perfectly good eggs because one was crap didn't even get all over the other ones just thrown away rotten choose from a german no. clearly my cup of coffee. in the dumpster at one am this morning on three pm this afternoon on the grill to cake is made from and one dozen times egg whites. delicious breakfast for the family ate some toast for about a week every year in america we throw away ninety six billion pounds of.

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