potential tourists one million dollars to enjoy the out of the world this world view from the corporate world. now back to libya in the wake of the rebels' success and gaining control of most of the country there's been a lot of debate regarding nato's role in it arches or m. it has asked the british who opposed intervention in libya about the role western powers should play in shaping another country's future. today i'm talking to barry gardener who's a labor member of parliament and one of the very few m.p.'s to a very serious against the intervention in libya mr gardiner thanks for talking to r.t. today now we see that the rebels if we can still call them that have practically taken tripoli and that gaddafi looks like he's lost the fight have you changed your mind about the libyan intervention the point is the legitimacy of it and that's what i queried in the beginning and i think most people would agree that it was

right to intervene on humanitarian grounds to save the people of benghazi that was never the issue the issue was all whether nato should then become involved as effectively the strikeforce for the rebel corps and that's what it's been and that of course was in my view way beyond the brief that the united nations had given and it was wrong it was not the should have been about regime change a civil war in libya is something for them it's not something for the rest of the world to intervene how do you wish it could have been different then what would you have done if you'd been in charge i think what we should've seen is we should have seen an intervention by the forces that went in to stop that attack on benghazi to neutralize gadhafi and to make sure that he then did not conduct any aggressive sorties as he had previously been doing but not that they should then become the

air on the straight forward for the rebels david cameron said a few days ago that nato would lend support in libya for as long as civilians need protecting what was your reaction to that is that open ended commitment as it sounds. it was very clear in the original un resolution it was very clear when our prime minister spoke in parliament here that there would be no. haitian force that would be totally wrong one of the things that troubled me all was this ambivalence as to whether there should be troops on the ground and of course that wasn't expressly prohibited by the resolution but but it was something that i think all of us were very concerned about. what we saw as the rebels were going into tripoli the other day certainly on the radio programs that were broadcast in the u.k.

we would go left go left go left these instructions being yelled out by what were obviously british soldiers british personnel who were leading that advance group now that i think it's where we've overstepped the line there's also now talk of pursing peacekeeping forces on the ground in libya i've seen that something you oppose but you know decimated country with no structure for maintaining order now is that not the only way i don't believe it is i don't believe it's right that we should be staying there. to establish the new regime that's not what this was originally about it was about humanitarian protection now let me be clear i am very pleased to see the back of gadhafi was a very evil dictator the sooner he was in front of the international criminal court the better. and i'm very glad that his days are now at an end i wish

the new regime well but i think it's important that they establish their regime they prove to the international community that they have the capacity not to tear themselves into different factions and to libya as a strong and unified government but that's their responsibility you supported the invasion of iraq back in two thousand and. three why is this different it's very different. the invasion of iraq was because. saddam hussein had refused to reveal as he was obliged to under chapter seven of the united nations resolution whether or not he had got rid of all of the nuclear chemical. biological weapons that we knew he had previously about he refused to do that even as late as february hans blix was saying we do not know whether he still has

these he listed a whole load of v.x. nerve gas mustard gas different agents chemical agents so we didn't know and he was not willing to allow. other countries to come to interview the scientists to see the audit trails to know whether he got rid of them or not in that situation it would have been ludicrous to have had a million strong army that was on the doorstep of iraq simply go away when the resolution fourteen forty one had given iran given him a final opportunity to comply with his obligations how the world done that then what would've happened is he would have simply rebuilt those programs with impunity knowing that he was absolutely untouchable and the world would not do anything against him we would have then been precipitated into a far more major conflict into the in the middle east between iran and iraq with devastating consequences destruction of the world's oil supplies it was

a terrible situation and it was right that we took the action that we did now the fact that the united nations didn't sanction it in terms of a second resolution does not change the fact that forty and forty one said it was the final opportunity for him to comply now i'm a parent i have children i know that if i tell my children please come and do the washing up and they don't do it and i say look i've told. once already please come up if you have twelve years of that which is what we had with saddam hussein and you then come to the point where you say this is your final chance and he still does not comply then it's important that you take the ultimate sanction after that what about what happened afterwards there in both iraq and afghanistan the real violence began after the dictatorships were toppled do you see that happening in libya i think there is a danger of this and what you saw certainly in iraq was

a complete failure of the occupying powers then to stabilize the situation and they let the the iraqi army keep their weapons but they disbanded the army and they said you must go back to your villages but you can keep your weapons this was insanity absolutely insanity and we must not be in a position where what we've done is created greater instability in libya that is absolutely clear. but nonetheless we equally must avoid is becoming an occupation force i think afghanistan is a very good example russia has very bitter experience of afghanistan as does britain of being an occupying power and you start off being a friend of someone and you end up being hated by everyone an occupying force is a very dangerous place to be and you should get out as quickly as you can what's the middle way that some would argue that nato stepping in has made the situation

worse is it not their nature his responsibility to stay and clear up the matter you pose the question that really is how do you get to where you want to to be and of course the answer is well i wouldn't have started from here but you're right we're now in this situation and therefore what we have to do is to ensure that we provide support for stability without our cells being that stabilizing. military force it must not be that the new government relies on the military of britain and nato in order to maintain power they must be able to do that on their own we can give advice we can give help to help them stabilize the situation but we must not assume responsibility ourselves government insists that lessons were learned from what happened in iraq but given the way that this conflict been conducted do you believe that. it's always a danger for every government in my view and every army to be

fighting the last war. what you do is you learn lessons from one conflict which you then take on to the next but usually what you forget is that the context of the situation is different the next time and therefore the lessons that you've learnt from the previous experience may not be appropriate in the conflict that you are now fighting you mentioned the faction inside the national transitional council we now know that some of those factions are religious groups who hope to establish an islamic state in libya what will the attitude to that be do you think free from nato and from the libyans themselves will they get a voice in this new democracy it's not for nato or for the else to allow but it's for the people of libya to decide what they want to do it's for them to decide their own future. in this country and.

all across the world people have had to learn to live. with the fact that we have different religious views different ethical views nonetheless we have to live together we have to spine some means of sharing a society sharing the country and making it work for all of us i believe the people of libya are no less capable of doing that than the people of us. the people of the united kingdom do you think that ultimately nato will cause more trouble in the middle east after already deeply unstable so i think the most serious i think it will if nato stays there as an occupation force but i don't think that is going to happen i think the really troubling conflicts in the middle east at the moment are within syria i think if you look at bahrain and the way in which saudi arabia went into bahrain to prop up the oligarchy there against the wishes of the people these

are the flashpoints in the middle east that still have not and that is going to happen. once people have scented revolution once they have seen that freedom and a better life is possible i don't think they will go back under the yoke of the talk or see god and thank you very much. from. discover its.

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economy in the kinds of reports on our. party's top stories libyan rebels were attacked colonel gadhafi is offer up talks about the country's future the national transitional council says it wants to see him in jail and not at the negotiating table. bloodshed in syria continues just. promises of arrest reforms but activists claiming at least five people were killed over the weekend the arab league has become the latest international body to pass or president to end the violence. and the ultimate retreat a russian company plans to open the first time for space hotel in just five years it will cost potential tourist one million dollars to enjoy out of this world view from the orbital pleasure. more news in fifteen minutes but first let's get the latest from the world of sports you know neal is here and bragging rights life

firmly in the northern half of the english premier league today don't but they certainly do particularly. thirteen goals and he scored by united city quite extraordinary we've got the story of the day plus the rest of the sport coming up. thanks for joining us this monday morning here in the central moscow i mean you know these are some of the stories we're covering this hour. spoil sure moscow's most fiery football darby ends up all square between spar time on c.b.s. . edging closer a second street formula one crowd so all but inevitable for sebastian vettel after victory number seven of the year up spot. raise a glass thomas bjorn windsor morris in five months playoff to claim the johnnie

walker championship but. let's kick off with football where sunday saw a cracker of a moscow darby in the russian premier league sports hosting the leading the luzhniki stadium went into the clash aiming to keep a two month on the run intact and with the red white to seize the initiative right before the break well it's on heading home to me she comes out of scrawls shot. but got right back into it half a dozen minutes after the break not the greatest of the fending from the home side allowing city to do be out to take full advantage. on one that would become to sixty nine minutes in again looking less than inspirational the bok zoran toss it this time finding the net. however a contender for a strike of the weekend would guarantee for a carpenter charges a point of money and letting rip for. advances how they absorbing clash would finish. meaning c.s.k.

i have company at the summit for the first time in months and joining the army men at the top following a five mill thrashing over thrust the door alexander project off helping himself to a brace before the how far mark. in some petersburg good work from tommy the final eleven minutes would turn into gold fist claiming his trick from the penalty spot after brilliant volley from. made it forward five minutes from time the icing on the cake coming courtesy of a delightful chip making it with number three on the track for zinni. has kept the pressure up on the leading fellow muscovites latif also won against russian opposition beating f.c. . rypien helped leapfrog samuel. into fourth one zero win at home to. smiles all

across month chester this morning after both the red and blue sides of the city rocked up on sunday in the english premier league result of all the day on doggedly appearing at old trafford. on the heaviest defeat in over a century do not adjust your screen is quite right. how it ended up. in the demolition job. self help. man city in five one four goals for the ball's knee in mond. elsewhere a wins a first. cause you know. it has been anything really disappointing sunday for you same both the world's fastest man disqualified in the one hundred metres final at the world athletics championship following a false starts no rules were changed last year to allow only one false start

instead of to utter despair in the face of the olympic champion in the race that we have both jamaican teammate you hunt blake who won in the time of nine point nine two six american walter dix he took silver with veteran can call and storming off the podium bolt. will not be aiming to points back in the two hundred meters and four by one hundred meters relay his two remaining events inside. in the day double amputee oscar pistorius has made a success of the debut of that top level the south african nicknamed blade runner progressing into the four hundred meter semi's with a third place finish in the us. but going into the race you know. exactly what you're doing you have to analyze the race continues to be put to good school too so if you're going to post. it it's all. so. let's talk formula one where the odds have shortened on

sebastian vettel retaining his driver's title the german tightening his grasp at the top of the standings after leading from start to finish to claim victory number seven of twelve this season his red bull team taking the top two podium spots. mark webber finished up in second place while the current jenson button improved from a starting grid position of. the third denying fernando alonso a top three finish buttons teammate lewis hamilton here crashed out early on he had started from second rushes to tell you the truth was nine vettel not leeds webber by ninety six points. in motor g.p. casey stoner was finally able to conquer the brickyard circuit of the indianapolis grand prix history in recent to a seventh win of the season after failing to climb on top of the podium or get on the podium at all i should say in his two previous hardings indy stoner was on pole for the race but downey pedrosa got off to one of his trademark fast start stealing

the lead however the twenty five year old stayed on ice on the stablemates trail passing this minute on lap seven producing maintaining that second position fending off the on the high rivals ben spies on for get lorenzo on the right are shot and i won three straight races held on american. soil so stone earned his third straight win his overall lead to over reigning champ lorenzo increases to forty four. that's what's the goal for thomas bjorn held his nerve in scotland to secure the johnnie walker championship crown the danish veteran fending off the competition in a five hole play off for a twelfth european tour when bjorn finishing the day on three under sixty nine tie but mark foster after wrapping up there on george could see burned the iceberg. also joining that you'll find extra bjorn but he kept swinging away as he watched weisberg on the rise a ball drop out of contention on the first and second hole respectively foster

dropped the next i'm sure you're losing it all it's after cuzzi missed a birdie the forty year old securing his second win of the season after also finishing fourth off the british open this year. and finally winter sportsman are busy preparing for the new season including players of one of the most popular games here in russia bundy but as like the as it may be it remains overshadowed by more established sports riches from poor flee to the story. if you ask anyone outside of russia or scandinavia what is bandy a vast majority wouldn't have a clue however the game is very simple it's just like field hockey played on ice that may not be as big as football and ice hockey a band he still has a strong following in russia and sweden and one of the biggest stars around is mikhail sufficient of his a household name in both these nations has been a big week for the russian captain as he rejoined his beloved denominate sco following a spell in the swedish league. i believe it is more fun to watch banned in russia

as the game is a lot quicker and there is more emphasis on attack in sweden the game is more tactically based and is more defensively orientated though they are very good at this is big business in russia where the sport is played professionally crowds for international matches can be upwards of thirty thousand players can expect to earn over one hundred thousand dollars a year whereas in sweden a monthly salary is in the region of just two to three thousand euros meaning many of the players have to take up second jobs you know the standard of bandy is increasing all the time being crease in salaries also helps but there are a number of other factors which are making the sport better and more and more popular in the likes of russia in sweden there are a number of factors limiting the development of bandy firstly it's not the olympic sport which means it difficult for associations in countries where sport isn't as popular to get state funding also of it's

a very fast and exciting game to watch when understands the sheer speed of the game isn't suit t.v. as before can be difficult to see as can sometimes be the case in field hockey at the most we need to try to spread the game more globally and play tournament's in countries where the game isn't as developed or the big championships take place in russia and sweden we should try to play more in countries like finland norway and even in north america people read about the game in magazines. however it's only when they see on t.v. that they can understand what the sport is all about because it's got ice palace is one of the top bounty stadiums around the world and watching indoors can be of great benefit in the winter when temperatures outdoors dropped as well as minus fergie however for harming fans of sports in russia and sweden not even such a cold is able to put them all fear failure a pastime which if i don't see moscow interesting stuff well that is all the sport for now world whether it's next on any say is here with all the news at the

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our trash cans are filled with food you just have to go get it all of these perfectly good eggs because one was cracked didn't even get all over the other ones just threw them all the way up and cheese from the german oh you clearly like the upper crust. from the dumpster at one am this morning three pm this afternoon on the grill the cake is made from one dozen dumpster egg whites. delicious breakfast for the family to make some toast for about a week every year in america we throw away ninety six billion pounds of food.

as libyan rebels dismissed colonel gadhafi it's all for of talks people in tripoli struggle to bring their lives back to normal following last week's fierce finding. bloodshed in syria continues despite promises of press reform party goes to see once feuding vianna grassed in one city torn apart by violence. and the ultimate retreat a russian company plans to open the first ever space hotel in just five years we'll look at what exactly be on earth to pleasure dome troops to offer. from our business desk russian markets start the week on a positive note with energy stocks the main gate as we'll bring you the figures in about twenty minutes from now in a business bulletin.